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Dante84 10-11-2012 05:22 PM

The next step in the revolution: Full Page ads in the KC Star and Dallas paper
 
I propose we pool together for three full page ads in the KC Star Sports Section.

Page 1: A cleaned up, professional, appropriate version of the Matt Cassel Facts.

Page 2: A cleaned up, updated, professional, appropriate version of the Scott Pioli Facts.

Page 3: An open letter to Clark Hunt, stating our passion, loyalty, and struggles with the past decade of being a Chiefs fan. Beg him to make it right. Make reference to our having not drafted a QB, despite our obvious need to.
***If we pool enough money, run a full page of this in the Dallas Newspaper as well. Would be nice to stick it in Clark's backyard.***

In regards to the "Print is Dead" excuse - this idea is more about the coverage the ad gets than the ad itself.

Quote:

An ad is a whole page of text and facts.

If picked up by national media (it most certainly would); the ad itself serves as the press release for which the reporters will base their stories on. These stories will be put online, and links will be sent and it will go viral that way.

A billboard, if the story is picked up, makes for a cool image, with a short, yet blunt message. The reporters will be left to create their own opinions and I think the message will be lost when communicated to the masses.

I think that blunt image was already communicated via the airplane banner. The detailed ad is a different approach, with a different angle.
PR Capone, here's looking at you.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 05:23 PM

We need to form some goddamn picket lines.

Bugeater 10-11-2012 05:23 PM

You obviously have no idea what full page ads cost.

SAUTO 10-11-2012 05:23 PM

Ten grand a page iirc.
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OnTheWarpath15 10-11-2012 05:23 PM

Waste of money. And they are expensive as hell.

Who the hell reads the newspaper anymore?

Answer: No one. That's why major papers are going to a 2-3 day a week printing or have been eliminated altogether.

KCUnited 10-11-2012 05:25 PM

I don't know the exact cost, but I believe newspaper ads are expensive as ****. Also, a guy did this for the Royals over the Summer and it got a half a day run and not one **** was given. Granted the NFL is monumentally bigger than MLB, but I'd stick to more bang for your buck alternatives.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 05:27 PM

Just buy a huge billboard near Arrowhead that says SCOTT PIOLI IS A LOSER.

We need to embarrass this ****er to the point where he resigns.

Make him living in Kansas City his worst ****ing nightmare.

New World Order 10-11-2012 05:28 PM

We need a billboard on I70, so that way fat scott sees it everytime he drives to arrowhead

New World Order 10-11-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9002853)
Just buy a huge billboard near Arrowhead that says SCOTT PIOLI IS A LOSER.

We need to embarrass this ****er to the point where he resigns.

Make him living in Kansas City his worst ****ing nightmare.



You beat me to it

Dante84 10-11-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9002834)
You obviously have no idea what full page ads cost.

k. how much?

Dante84 10-11-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9002838)
Waste of money. And they are expensive as hell.

Who the hell reads the newspaper anymore?

Answer: No one. That's why major papers are going to a 2-3 day a week printing or have been eliminated altogether.

The story is bigger than the ad.

You dont think that would go viral? Every news organization would put that on their website:

"Fans pay for full page ad to denounce QB, GM"

Ends up getting millions of more impressions than initially paid for.

sedated 10-11-2012 05:31 PM

Make a virus video. Thats what the kids do these days.

New World Order 10-11-2012 05:32 PM

An ad is a good idea, a billboard would be better

Bugeater 10-11-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9002860)
k. how much?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

Dante84 10-11-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9002880)
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

http://www.kansascity.com/specialty_products/

SCHEDULED SECTIONS: You can reach a selected audience through our menu of targeted sections, whether the topic is sports, lifestyles, education, business, health, geographic area or travel.
CONTACT: Ted Massing, 816-234-4193

Dante84 10-11-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9002895)
http://www.kansascity.com/specialty_products/

SCHEDULED SECTIONS: You can reach a selected audience through our menu of targeted sections, whether the topic is sports, lifestyles, education, business, health, geographic area or travel.
CONTACT: Ted Massing, 816-234-4193

No answer, but I'm in TX.

If any of you KC folk wanna reach out.

007 10-11-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 9002875)
Make a virus video. Thats what the kids do these days.

viral

Dante84 10-11-2012 05:38 PM

Calling out Clark in the Dallas paper would be priceless. That story would explode.

http://www.dallasnews.com/advertising/

Newspaper Advertising

For information about advertising in The Dallas Morning News , please click here. Or, you can contact our Advertising department through the following:

• Classified Advertising: 214-745-8123 | E-mail
• Retail Advertising: 214-977-8427 | E-mail
• National Advertising: 214-977-8535 | E-mail

To advertise in neighborsgo, please e-mail [email protected].

TheGreatCassholio 10-11-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9002898)
viral


How about AIDS virus? That works for me

Chief_For_Life58 10-11-2012 05:41 PM

yeah i like the enthusiasm but a billboard would be better. on i70 or 435

MIAdragon 10-11-2012 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9002833)
We need to form some goddamn picket lines.

More people with signs right outside the gate would be awesome. A ticket buyback program would be great, to cleanse fans of their sins and educate them against committing future transgressions.

007 10-11-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9002928)
yeah i like the enthusiasm but a billboard would be better. on i70 or 435

It only needs two words too. FIRE PIOLI

BigRedChief 10-11-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9002831)
I propose we pool together for three full page ads in the KC Star Sports Section.

Page 1: A cleaned up, professional, appropriate version of the Matt Cassel Facts.

Page 2: A cleaned up, updated, professional, appropriate version of the Scott Pioli Facts.

Page 3: An open letter to Clark Hunt, stating our passion, loyalty, and struggles with the past decade of being a Chiefs fan. Beg him to make it right. Make reference to our having not drafted a QB, despite our obvious need to.
***If we pool enough money, run a full page of this in the Dallas Newspaper as well***

PR Capone, here's looking at you.

Who the **** reads a paper anymore? It's the biggest waste of advertising $'s in the whole media market.

saphojunkie 10-11-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9002928)
yeah i like the enthusiasm but a billboard would be better. on i70 or 435

Today's newspapers are tomorrow's litterbox.

The billboard is far more bang for your buck.

I think three facts for Pioli works:

3-15 vs. Teams with winning record
22-32 Overall record
17 Blowout losses in 54 Games

BENCH MATT FIRE PIOLI

saphojunkie 10-11-2012 05:45 PM

and yes, I say add the "BENCH MATT" part, because I don't trust that Quinn stays the starter.

Dante84 10-11-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9002928)
yeah i like the enthusiasm but a billboard would be better. on i70 or 435

I disagree.

Here's why: An ad is a whole page of text and facts.

If picked up by national media (it most certainly would); the ad itself serves as the press release for which the reporters will base their stories on. These stories will be put online, and links will be sent and it will go viral that way.

A billboard, if the story is picked up, makes for a cool image, with a short, yet blunt message. The reporters will be left to create their own opinions and I think the message will be lost when communicated to the masses.

I think that blunt image was already communicated via the airplane banner. The detailed ad is a different approach, with a different angle.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 05:46 PM

No billboard until the end of the season.

As soon as it's clear the asshole won't be fired, up it goes.

And I'll throw in a thousand ****ing dollars to get it up.

Dante84 10-11-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9002939)
Who the **** reads a paper anymore? It's the biggest waste of advertising $'s in the whole media market.

ITS NOT ABOUT THE PRINT AD.

ITS ABOUT THE STORY THAT WILL BE PICKED UP.

I have a PR degree, and work in advertising. Not saying I know everything, but I definitely see deeper and beyond the "print is dead" angle, guys.

scho63 10-11-2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9002838)
Waste of money. And they are expensive as hell.

Who the hell reads the newspaper anymore?

Answer: No one. That's why major papers are going to a 2-3 day a week printing or have been eliminated altogether
.

:thumb:

That's why I am no longer a highly paid, union newspaper pressman...

KCUnited 10-11-2012 05:51 PM

5k for a half page when a guy did this for the Royals over the summer.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/19369539/...to-sell-royals

qabbaan 10-11-2012 05:52 PM

Waste of money, only the elderly read the print newspaper anymore.

And for crying out loud, this is about Pioli and only Pioli. You want to run an ad about a QB who isn't starting this week? What a waste.

There is one talking point in this movement. Pioli. Pioli. Pioli.

Dante84 10-11-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9002972)
5k for a half page when a guy did this for the Royals over the summer.

http://m.kctv5.com/w/main/story/71356023/

BUT WAIT.

THAT WAS A PRINT AD. PRINT IS DEAD.

WHY IS THERE A LINK ON THE INTERNET ABOUT IT AND WHY DID IT GET COVERAGE ON TV?

Dante84 10-11-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 9002975)
Waste of money, only the elderly read the print newspaper anymore.

And for crying out loud, this is about Pioli and only Pioli. You want to run an ad about a QB who isn't starting this week? What a waste.

There is one talking point in this movement. Pioli. Pioli. Pioli.

Ok, it was a starting point. Focus on Scott.

Boom, we just saved some money.

SAUTO 10-11-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9002835)
Ten grand a page iirc.
Posted via Mobile Device

.

Can't anyone read?
Posted via Mobile Device

Tonka83 10-11-2012 05:56 PM

The digital billboards around town are actually pretty reasonable.
I'd pitch in.

KCUnited 10-11-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9002977)
BUT WAIT.

THAT WAS A PRINT AD. PRINT IS DEAD.

WHY IS THERE A LINK ON THE INTERNET ABOUT IT AND WHY DID IT GET COVERAGE ON TV?

Trust me man, nobody gave a **** then or now. I barely remember it and I'm a Royals fan. Granted the NFL is bigger, but for 10k, c'mon.

007 10-11-2012 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 9002994)
The digital billboards around town are actually pretty reasonable.
I'd pitch in.

Based on the rates posted earlier in the thread, digital billboards don't seem worth the expense. You have to share space and still pay at least the same amount as a permanent billboard.

qabbaan 10-11-2012 06:02 PM

A billboard that says at the top in medium sized letters, "Save The Chiefs" and in giant letters below that, "FIRE PIOLI"

Somewhere on the route between the airport and the stadium for Clark

Titty Meat 10-11-2012 06:02 PM

Maybe Whitlock could get us a discount?

-King- 10-11-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9002950)
No billboard until the end of the season.

As soon as it's clear the asshole won't be fired, up it goes.

And I'll throw in a thousand ****ing dollars to get it up.

You sure your mom will loan you that much money?

Dante84 10-11-2012 06:03 PM

Whelp. Seems I'm in the minority. If anyone does want to do this, count me in.

MahiMike 10-11-2012 06:03 PM

Why don't we just toss some nukes out the window of the banner plane?

KCUnited 10-11-2012 06:04 PM

Any legalities around a billboard urging the firing of a specific person? Just curious.

FAX 10-11-2012 06:05 PM

You mean there isn't a single billboard guy in KC that is a Chiefs fan?

Unthinkable.

We need to rally support from people who have the ways and means to help us. We need a billboard guy and a skywriter guy and a midget prostitute and a camera.

FAX

alnorth 10-11-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9002977)
BUT WAIT.

THAT WAS A PRINT AD. PRINT IS DEAD.

WHY IS THERE A LINK ON THE INTERNET ABOUT IT AND WHY DID IT GET COVERAGE ON TV?

I'm a Royals fan, and I never heard of it.

A print ad, given the cost, is a very very very bad idea.

-King- 10-11-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9003012)
Whelp. Seems I'm in the minority. If anyone does want to do this, count me in.

If the newspaper ad costs 5k like KCUnited said, then I'll put up $1 if you put in the remaining $4,999.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 9003005)
A billboard that says at the top in medium sized letters, "Save The Chiefs" and in giant letters below that, "FIRE PIOLI"

Somewhere on the route between the airport and the stadium for Clark

Yes.

qabbaan 10-11-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9003023)
I'm a Royals fan, and I never heard of it.

A print ad, given the cost, is a very very very bad idea.

Me either. Sounds like nobody did, or more importantly, nobody remembers it.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9003017)
Why don't we just toss some nukes out the window of the banner plane?

Pioli's bunker is lead lined.

Titty Meat 10-11-2012 06:09 PM

What happened with the billboard idea?

BossChief 10-11-2012 06:10 PM

Odd...I'm pretty sure this post was the first seed planted in this call to action movement:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...9&postcount=42

I thought we had shot this down once we found out the cost.

Mile High Mania 10-11-2012 06:12 PM

People still read printed news?

I'd think you could find better ways to spend the $.

-King- 10-11-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9003043)
Odd...I'm pretty sure this post was the first seed planted in this call to action movement:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...9&postcount=42

I thought we had shot this down once we found out the cost.

Man you love pimping yourself. LMAO

DaFace 10-11-2012 06:18 PM

I'm ChiefsPlanet isn't in charge of a real marketing campaign.

This is a shoestring operation trying to make a big impact. Traditional media (of just about any type) just isn't viable unless you're wanting to throw away your entire budget for something that will have a very minor impact.

-King- 10-11-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9003062)
I'm ChiefsPlanet isn't in charge of a real marketing campaign.

This is a shoestring operation trying to make a big impact. Traditional media (of just about any type) just isn't viable unless you're wanting to throw away your entire budget for something that will have a very minor impact.

LMAO

BossChief 10-11-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9003038)
What happened with the billboard idea?

I think the billboard would be a good idea to spread the saveourchiefs word spread further.

We need to make that site the rallying point of this movement.

Jmo

Otter 10-11-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9003007)
Maybe Whitlock could get us a discount?

Advertising on Whitlock seems viable - lots of surface area for the cost of a t-shirt.

ChiefsCountry 10-11-2012 06:20 PM

Sunday newspaper is still a damn good marketing tool. Wednesday is second best because that is the day the grocery ads come out. The rest of the week isn't worth it.

Titty Meat 10-11-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9003065)
I think the billboard would be a good idea to spread the saveourchiefs word spread further.

We need to make that site the rallying point of this movement.

Jmo

Agreed as long as they have the Twitter problem fixed which it sounds like they do i'm in favor.

FAX 10-11-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 9003067)
Advertising on Whitlock seems viable

He claims that his ass is premium space.

I'm not so sure.

FAX

SAUTO 10-11-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9003025)
If the newspaper ad costs 5k like KCUnited said, then I'll put up $1 if you put in the remaining $4,999.

That's a HALF page.

This dude is talking about 3 FULL PAGES...
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BossChief 10-11-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9003056)
Man you love pimping yourself. LMAO

I was pointing out how long ago we shot this specific idea down...and yes, I do have as big of an ego as Pioli. Thanks for noticing.

petegz28 10-11-2012 06:24 PM

I say Sunday paper...on a game day

Mugalug 10-11-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9003021)
You mean there isn't a single billboard guy in KC that is a Chiefs fan?

Unthinkable.

We need to rally support from people who have the ways and means to help us. We need a billboard guy and a skywriter guy and a midget prostitute and a camera.

FAX

I'm in. Now all we need is a billboard guy and a skywriter guy and a camera.

qabbaan 10-11-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9003071)
Sunday newspaper is still a damn good marketing tool. Wednesday is second best because that is the day the grocery ads come out. The rest of the week isn't worth it.

People don't need to dig through the newspaper on Sunday to get the message, they just have to turn on the TV.

KCUnited 10-11-2012 06:29 PM

I say we buy a sprinter van and sticker wrap it like Tech N9ne's.

FAX 10-11-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 9003105)
People don't need to dig through the newspaper on Sunday to get the message, they just have to turn on the TV.

Well, let's make a commercial.

FAX

Tombstone RJ 10-11-2012 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9002959)
ITS NOT ABOUT THE PRINT AD.

ITS ABOUT THE STORY THAT WILL BE PICKED UP.

I have a PR degree, and work in advertising. Not saying I know everything, but I definitely see deeper and beyond the "print is dead" angle, guys.

Go with a single page ad, two color (red and black), check into the cost differences between a 1/4 page, a 1/2 page and a full page. Put it in the Dallas papers. If the Dallas paper has on online version, check into placing that add there as well.

Why not? This will hit Clark close to home.

As for the billboard, do that too, but do that in KC.

qabbaan 10-11-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9003112)
Go with a single page ad, two color (red and black), check into the cost differences between a 1/4 page, a 1/2 page and a full page. Put it in the Dallas papers. If the Dallas paper has on online version, check into placing that add there as well.

Why not? This will hit Clark close to home.

As for the billboard, do that too, but do that in KC.

The dumb just keeps getting stronger.

KChiefer 10-11-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9002853)
Make him living in Kansas City his worst ****ing nightmare.

Can we pay restaurants to sign a pledge refusing to feed that fat ***?

a la

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...TegPz50kXBSERO

BigRedChief 10-11-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9003038)
What happened with the billboard idea?

THIS?

I thought the billboard was a done deal?

BigRedChief 10-11-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 9003117)
The dumb just keeps getting stronger.

I'm sure he was being sarcastic

NJChiefsFan 10-11-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9003012)
Whelp. Seems I'm in the minority. If anyone does want to do this, count me in.

How are we gonna raise $30,000 dollars!!!??? If we did, I would be floored if we blew it on the newspaper ads.

BossChief 10-11-2012 06:39 PM

Does anyone here have connections with tech N9ne?

Nothing spreads a word as rapidly as a song that mentions a cause or product.

I bet he is aware of saveourchiefs and would love to help out...be is a big Chiefs fan iirc.

Tombstone RJ 10-11-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 9003117)
The dumb just keeps getting stronger.

If the Dallas papers have an online version, check into that. Either way it's for the hit factor on Clark Hunt.

I really want to see if fans can force ownership to change, I'd like to see you guys have an impact. Not because I like the chefs, but because I'm a fan too and I wanna see if this will work.

NJChiefsFan 10-11-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9002985)
.

Can't anyone read?
Posted via Mobile Device

I went through this whole thread waiting for him to respond to this.

-King- 10-11-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9003133)
How are we gonna raise $30,000 dollars!!!??? If we did, I would be floored if we blew it on the newspaper ads.

I'd die laughing.

ChiefsCountry 10-11-2012 06:43 PM

Here are billboard rates.
http://www.lamaroutdoor.com/

Bugeater 10-11-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9003106)
I say we buy a sprinter van and sticker wrap it like Tech N9ne's.

I say we take the money and buy a used Camero and do burnouts in the sports complex parking lot.

SAUTO 10-11-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9003152)
I say we take the money and buy a used Camero and do burnouts in the sports complex parking lot.

I say we say **** it and spend it all on hookers and blow...
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