Per 610 Sports. Russ Ball and Bill Cowher GM HC targets
 

Both worked together with Marty Schottenheimer in KC. Russ Ball is in GB. Cowher is KCs top target. I dont believe the Cowher crap its been going on for years

Holmgren will be available soon

:hmmm:

He's retiring.

Cowher gets to sit next to Marino every week. Probably gets free isotoners. Don't get better than that. Extreme surprise if he leaves CBS to come here. Would not be surprised to see him leave for some place way greener. Just my pessimistic .02.

I dont believe it, but Clark got Pioli the top GM. So if Pioli's arrogant ass is gone, maybe with this somewhat talented roster and a top pick for franchise QB, Cowher would be interested. They said Clark wants ties to KC family tree

That's a nice way of saying he has been fired... New Owner wants him out, probably told him to retire quietly and he gets paid a bonus.

MIght be some teeth to the Ball rumors. His Wiki pages shows he has ties to Missouri.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Ball

He was here during the marty years and they mentioned hes from KC. Good organization to pluck a guy from. They draft well and drafted Aaron Rodgers their franchise QB.

I'm on board with Cowher. He wouldn't be my first choice in all scenarios, but this team has enough pieces in place that a HC that knows what he's doing can make a quick impact.

The time to take a chance on a coach with a learning curve was 4 years ago. Now's the time to bring in a guy that can hit the road running.

Russ Ball please. Ya why not. Print em.

No thanks to Cowher

Hey Gang,

Someone do some research on Cowher. How many times did his teams get blown out?

Russ Ball is intriguing.

But yet Pioli is still our GM and he's gonna be on the local sports talk radio programs later today. Is this talk of replacing him a little premature at this point? I'm not saying he's coming back next year, but I'd hate to get my hopes up already talking about replacements lol.

Is it the 90's again?

How long has Cowher been out of the game? Would he still have the "fire" to be a great and not good head coach?

Then there's the "no coach that has won a Super Bowl with one team has ever won a Super Bowl with another team" thing that's out there.

Basically how i feel. This team could turn around quickly with the right leadership, coaching and QB in place. Kinda of like how the 49ers did it so quick.

Here's a pretty detailed article on Russ Ball. Written a year ago in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

http://www.jsonline.com/packerinsider/130041648.html

LMAO

Lets wait till Pioli is fired before we start considering rumours on his replacement.

Cowher Power.

Wait, this was just Fescoe throwing some names out and not "reporting" it, right?

Yup that's why we got McKenzie , been there since 94 or 95 I think

oh good grief

True that he's being forced out, but I don't think he pursues another position. I wouldn't want him, either. Great coach - successful everywhere as a coach - but has had zero success as an executive.

Did Pioli get fired? Did I miss something? Another GM would be great but, it is not a lock that Scott gets fired. I hope he does but who knows?

tl:dr

They're taking questions now.

Give them some hard ones.

Wouldn't Cowher want to be GM and HC though?

How would 610 even get that info? If it's true that those guys are, "targets" it's because 610 is just speculating for themselves. It's like anyone here saying those guys are targets.

Has he bought a house in Leawood yet?

Hopefully

I hope they grill Pioli's a** but you know they won't!

I admit the more I read about Ball, I would love to have him as the GM. Didn't realize his ties to KC and the area.

He's gone. It's The Year of GoChiefs, and I'm right about everything.

Cowher. Jesus. The more things change.

Didn't Cowher just say before the SD game that Cassell wasn't the problem and that the Chiefs are still the favorite for the AFC West?

No thanks.

Maybe it's a stipulation the next guy will HAVE to do what it takes to draft a top 10 1st rd QB.

All while knowing Favre had plenty of years left. Rodgers fell, and they saw value. I'd love to have Ball.

Ball so hard!

Rumor is that Clark isn't too happy about Pioli's sudden change of heart about being "open" with the media. Speculation is that Pioli is now running to the media to try to save his job and make it so that Clark looks like the bad guy for canning him.

If I were Clark, I would make Pioli sit in on the interviews for his replacement.

Where is this info coming from?

10 - 6 baby (Cowher face)

ass

He may have been a success as a HC because of the system there in GB, but as you said, he has basically been a failure in the front office everywhere else.

Russ Ball as GM = Yes

Cowher as HC = Not so yes

Regardless of what people think of the "marty era" it sort of makes sense for Clark to reach back into that particular era of Chiefs football.

It was the only recent era of prolonged success for the Chiefs. It would also help build goodwill with the fanbase to bring back in a "Native son" so to speak.

I suppose when looking for a GM that they look for a successful team and look at those who evaluate the talent on those teams...

I would go looking there first for an unknown and quit trying to resurrect the career of someone that has already had a chance.

Cowher is a good coach but everybody who has coached the Steelers has been successful so that tells me it goes way farther than him.

That is true, the native son aspect of a Russ Ball would possibly give the Chiefs kingdom a feeling of connection to not only the past but the feeling of this guy is one of us.

Danny Parkins from 610 was talking about it last night on Lazlo's show.

We need a GM that understands KC and Ball does

No to Cowher. I know this might be unpopular but I think Cowher's time has passed and I think he is a tad overrated and a product of the Steeler's system.

Can you post a link to Danny on lazlo's show? Is there a podcast?

I guess Cowher is ok if you have a good OC who can talk him out of Martyesque tendencies.

Um Cowher once he had Ben would open the playbook and throw it. Hell even when they had Maddox they'd throw it alot

I would not be happy with Cowher, but, he runs the same systems -- E/P offense & 34 2 gap defense.

Russ Balla ass GM

Todd Haley?

(ducks for cover) :D

I don't think the Chiefs are as close to being a player in the NFL as you all do but it would not take a whole lot to get them there... Seems to me it would be an attractive place to be overall from the standpoint of the odds of being successful.

not interested in cowher, but Ball is alright

Ah the Cowher talk....

Nothing like the quest for mediocrity...

Sad, sad times in KC when you have to continue to regress, just to appease the fanbase...

KC has zero desire to ever win anything meaningful.. I laughed out loud when 610 guys were talking about Chiefs winning in the 90's... Chiefs havent won shit in 40 years. Maybe it was talking about winning in Super Tecmo Bowl or something...

Reerun KC, well who do you want to be head coach?

I'd like to dig up that Lombardi fellar and see if he's interested........

I see, and agree, with what you saying but the good news is that it's a moot point.

The Chiefs didn't win in the 90s because they didn't have that QB. Well that'll get taken care of this next draft. They're taking a QB with their first pick. So right off that bat the philosophy is different. No matter who they hire (Cowher or not) Then we go from there.

He doesn't care who is coach, GM, QB, etc. as long as he can continue to whine.

I've been saying Russ Ball for a while now. You ****ers just need to listen to me. :)

Don't forget he also took Seattle to a SB as HC once his executive duties were scaled back.

I am not saying anything about Cowher. I just think KC Chiefs fans like to bitch and moan.

:clap:
i dont care who they hire as long as the team plays like a team.
i'm tired of the lackluster play thats going on with Romeo.

Here is Ball's associated records since leaving the chiefs....

Vikings Senior Football Administrator
Record 10–6
Division Place 2nd NFC Central
Playoff finish Won NFC Wild Card Playoff
Lost NFC Divisional Round

Record 11–5
Division Place 1st NFC Central
Playoff finish Won NFC Divisional Playoff
Lost NFC Championship

Redskins Director of Football Administration
Record 8–8
Division Place 2nd NFC East
Playoff finish did not qualify

Saints Senior Football Administrator, later as Vice President of Football Administration
Record 9–7
Division Place 3rd NFC South
Playoff finish did not qualify

Record 8–8
Division Place 2nd NFC South
Playoff finish did not qualify

Record 8–8
Division Place 2nd NFC South
Playoff finish did not qualify

Record 3–13
Division Place 4th NFC South
Playoff finish did not qualify

Record 10-6
Division Place 1st NFC South
Playoff finish Won Divisional Playoffs (Eagles) 27-24
Lost Conference Championship (Bears) 39-14

Record 7-9
Division Place 3rd NFC South
Playoff finish did not qualify

Packers Vice President of Football Administration/Player Finance
Record 6-10
Division Place 3rd NFC North
Playoff finish did not qualify

Record 11–5
Division Place 2nd Place NFC North
Playoff finish Lost NFC Wild Card (Cardinals) 51–45 (OT)

Record 10–6
Division Place 2nd NFC North
Playoff finish Won Wild Card Playoffs (Eagles) 21–16
Won Divisional Playoffs (Falcons) 48–21
Won Conference Championship (Bears) 21–14
Won Super Bowl XLV (Steelers) 31–25

Record 15–1
Division Place 1st NFC North
Playoff finish Lost Divisional Playoffs (Giants 37-20)

I just hope Russ Ball pick is better than your Brady Quinn prediction. Jk.

Does Russ Ball have experience with personnel decisions or is his background business? I've looked at so many candidates I'm getting them confused.

yep:D

He's mostly been a player contract/salary cap guy throughout his career.
So basically, Green Bay's Trip McCracken.

Nothing wrong with Martyball if you have a good QB. Being able to run the ball and play great defense is a successful combination. Having a good QB is the ingredient to put you over the top. I would argue Marty's best success came with Montana/Brees at QB... Pretty successful QB's. Cowher's best success came after he drafted Big Ben.

Says the guy blowing Pioli in Tampa....

Maybe when his is fired you will leave with him?

Quite a problem for Clark to solve, and I don't know if he's up to it. The experiment with Pioli has gone up in flames, along with a great deal of fan support. Too many empty seats and banner donations are being generated by too much bad football, from a team now ranked dead last by ESPN.

Execpt you cant win and run MartyBall in 2013 or going forward...

When Clark interviews, he better make damn sure that his future GM isn't a fucking dictator that bugs office phones, cuts all media off, and has his employees shuffling for the door because they hate to come to work at Arrowhead.

I will love the Cowher hire. His teams show heart and passion and are tough. They'll punch you in the mouth. Players take on the personality of their coach. Crennel=soft The Chin=smashmouth