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KCrockaholic 10-21-2012 11:23 PM

Clark Hunt is selling the Columbus Crew soccer team
 
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2012/...-columbus-crew

Hadn't seen this posted on here yet.

Not sure that it means anything, but it's partially Chiefs related.

CaliforniaChief 10-21-2012 11:26 PM

Hmmmmm.....

FAX 10-21-2012 11:26 PM

That's great news.

FAX

CaliforniaChief 10-21-2012 11:28 PM

Hey Clark, note how the encouragement was for local ownership. Just sayin'. We have a gang of people that know realtors in Leawood that we can hook you up with.

BossChief 10-21-2012 11:28 PM

How many other soccer teams does the guy own?...does this make the Chiefs the only team he owns?

KCrockaholic 10-21-2012 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9037570)
How many other soccer teams does the guy own?...does this make the Chiefs the only team he owns?

Apparently he owns 2 right now. If he sells the Crew, he will own the Chiefs, and FC Dallas. I believe. Either way, more focus needs to be on the Chiefs. And selling a franchise should only help turn a little more focus onto the Chiefs. Maybe not much, but he needs to be more involved.

DaneMcCloud 10-21-2012 11:30 PM

Interesting. I wonder if this is a harbinger of things to come...

CaliforniaChief 10-21-2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037572)
Apparently he owns 2 right now. If he sells the Crew, he will own the Chiefs, and FC Dallas. I believe.

That is correct. Also, his middle name is Knobel. WTF?

BossChief 10-21-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9037574)
Interesting. I wonder if this is a harbinger of things to come...

hopefully.

CaliforniaChief 10-21-2012 11:33 PM

The Chiefs fan in me hopes that Clark is going "all in" on the Chiefs.

The Kansas City fan in me tells me that David Glass will probably buy the Columbus team.

KCrockaholic 10-21-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9037575)
That is correct. Also, his middle name is Knobel. WTF?

I wonder why this guy was never interested in owning the Chiefs. Why did it have to be Clark is my question.


http://lamarhuntjr.com/

KCrockaholic 10-21-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9037581)
The Chiefs fan in me hopes that Clark is going "all in" on the Chiefs.

The Kansas City fan in me tells me that David Glass will probably buy the Columbus team.

In all seriousness it's up for sale because the MLS wants local owners. So Ohio.

kcfanXIII 10-21-2012 11:36 PM

its so he can buy sporting kc and destroy that franchise. kansas citians were perfectly happy as long as the chiefs were better then the royals. then this soccer team came along and reminded them what winning felt like... now they expect it from the chiefs too.

LiveSteam 10-21-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9037574)
Interesting. I wonder if this is a harbinger of things to come...

Dnt tease man

CaliforniaChief 10-21-2012 11:39 PM

Look, I don't want Clark to sell the team. I want Clark to go all in on the Chiefs, move to Kansas City, send Patrioli's ass back to Boston, and hire a new GM who will trade Cassel for a 6th/release him, draft a QB in the first, and get this ship moving in the right direction.

Phobia 10-21-2012 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037583)
I wonder why this guy was never interested in owning the Chiefs. Why did it have to be Clark is my question.


http://lamarhuntjr.com/

Um. All four Hunt children own the Chiefs. Clark is the face. Lamar Jr. has some controversial issues in his past that potentially eliminate him from being the figurehead.

DaneMcCloud 10-21-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037583)
I wonder why this guy was never interested in owning the Chiefs. Why did it have to be Clark is my question.


http://lamarhuntjr.com/

ROFL

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/120...20999007.shtml

-King- 10-21-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037583)
I wonder why this guy was never interested in owning the Chiefs. Why did it have to be Clark is my question.


http://lamarhuntjr.com/

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Lamar graduated from the University of Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music with a Bachelor of Music Degree and later completed a Master of the Arts degree in counseling at Dallas Baptist University.
vs.

Quote:

After graduating from St. Mark's School of Texas, [Clark] went on to finish first in his class at Southern Methodist University, where he was a captain of SMU's nationally-ranked soccer team and a two-time Academic All-American. He also received a Masters of Business Administration from SMU.

KCrockaholic 10-21-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9037588)
Um. All four Hunt children own the Chiefs. Clark is the face. Lamar Jr. has some controversial issues in his past that potentially eliminate him from being the figurehead.

Makes sense. Never really thought about that though.

What happened with Lamar Jr?

Edit: OH....

DaneMcCloud 10-21-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9037588)
Um. All four Hunt children own the Chiefs. Clark is the face. Lamar Jr. has some controversial issues in his past that potentially eliminate him from being the figurehead.

That was nice.

:D

DaneMcCloud 10-21-2012 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037593)
Makes sense. Never really thought about that though.

What happened with Lamar Jr?

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/120...20999007.shtml

For starters.

There's more. MUCH more.

But that's not for public consumption.

BossChief 10-21-2012 11:46 PM

Ever watch the movie hostel?

KCrockaholic 10-21-2012 11:47 PM

Sex with his mental handicap sister-in-law.

Jesus.

AussieChiefsFan 10-21-2012 11:47 PM

Interesting.:hmmm:

Imon Yourside 10-21-2012 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037600)
Sex with his mental handicap sister-in-law.

Jesus.

This describes Pioli's tenure here as well.

Phobia 10-21-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9037594)
That was nice.

:D

Indeed. I'm a nice person.

KCrockaholic 10-21-2012 11:48 PM

http://www.lamarhuntjrcounseling.com/

lol he does marital counseling.

chiefzilla1501 10-21-2012 11:51 PM

Columbus could be a good soccer market. I know a few fans from Ohio who are really happy about this. They've been bitching about Hunt being cheap in this market for years.

DaneMcCloud 10-21-2012 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037600)
Sex with his mental handicap sister-in-law.

Jesus.

For starters.

Phobia 10-21-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037606)
http://www.lamarhuntjrcounseling.com/

lol he does marital counseling.

He's probably pretty good at it.

Rule #1: Do not make advances on your sister-in-law.
Rule #2: If you do, don't write a tell-all letter to your wife detailing the events.

I'm guessing he won't make enough at the marriage counseling gig his entire life to cover the cost of the settlement with his former sister-in-law and that doesn't even begin to cover what the ex-wife got in the deal.

This story used to be all over the web a decade ago but most the sources have disappeared slowly over the years.

Nightfyre 10-21-2012 11:57 PM

Is it bad if I thought, "Worthless without pics"?

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9037617)
He's probably pretty good at it.

Rule #1: Do not make advances on your sister-in-law.
Rule #2: If you do, don't write a tell-all letter to your wife detailing the events.

I'm guessing he won't make enough at the marriage counseling gig his entire life to cover the cost of the settlement with his former sister-in-law and that doesn't even begin to cover what the ex-wife got in the deal.

This story used to be all over the web a decade ago but most the sources have disappeared slowly over the years.

From what I was told, this wasn't the first and only time.

I'm sure that any psychologist or social worker would likely agree that this type of behavior isn't a "one and done" type of deal.

cdcox 10-22-2012 12:00 AM

Holy shit, the Chiefs are owned by the Bluth's!

RunKC 10-22-2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9037608)
Columbus could be a good soccer market. I know a few fans from Ohio who are really happy about this. They've been bitching about Hunt being cheap in this market for years.

How the **** can Clark be cheap in the MLS? $1 million dollars salary a year is one of the tops for most MLS starters.

Hell about 3/4 of the players only make like 55k a year.

FAX 10-22-2012 12:10 AM

I view this as a net positive for the Chiefs. Either Clark will be able to focus more attention and time on the Chiefs or he's practicing selling sports teams.

FAX

Imon Yourside 10-22-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9037628)
I view this as a net positive for the Chiefs. Either Clark will be able to focus more attention and time on the Chiefs or he's practicing selling sports teams.

FAX

Shift Pioli over to Soccer GM, problem solved.

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9037638)
Shift Pioli over to Soccer GM, problem solved.


I'm certain he doesn't know jackshit about soccer, either.

Perfect hire.

Imon Yourside 10-22-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9037640)
I'm certain he doesn't know jackshit about soccer, either.

Perfect hire.

What could possibly go wrong with the former NFL executive of the year. ROFL and crying all in one fell swoop.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9037574)
Interesting. I wonder if this is a harbinger of things to come...

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037584)
In all seriousness it's up for sale because the MLS wants local owners. So Ohio.

Yes and no. This has all been in the works for a while now. The big deal in this move is MLS's desire for no owner to own more than one team. There were times in the past where some owners owning a number of the teams was vital to keep the league going but that is not the case anymore. AEG owned 3 or 4 teams at some point in the past but they currently only own the LA Galaxy and part of the Houston Dynamo.

MLS is trying to get Hunt and AEG to get down to one team but passing ownership to the "right" owner is more important than just dumping them off on someone. Local ownership is strongly strongly desired but I am not sure a lack of it would be a deal breaker if someone wanted to come in and sweep up the Crew. It is interesting though even though he lives in Dallas I see Columbus as a better soccer market and a better organization to run. But who knows.

KCrockaholic 10-22-2012 12:32 AM

You might be the only soccer fan I know of... In America.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037648)
You might be the only soccer fan I know of... In America.

And you live out in JoCo?

You would be surprised.

AussieChiefsFan 10-22-2012 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037648)
You might be the only soccer fan I know of...

http://www.moneysuccesshappiness.com...tingAtSelf.jpg

Quote:

In America.
oh.

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037648)
You might be the only soccer fan I know of... In America.

Uh, what?

SPchief 10-22-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9037648)
You might be the only soccer fan I know of... In America.

Well, we figured out a MeMeMe mult. She's setting herself up for a long rebuttal her3.

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037650)
And you live out in JoCo?

You would be surprised.

I'll be the first to admit that I am not a soccer fan. I don't dislike soccer, nor do I hate it, but much like baseball, it's an acquired taste.

That said, soccer in the U.S. is growing exponentially. It's impossible for me, in Los Angeles, to go virtually anywhere without seeing or hearing soccer. I have old friends in JoCo that swear that Sporing KC and their stadium are second to none in terms of value, sight lines and fun.

Again, not my trip but its ludicrous to state that soccer is somehow invisible.

chiefzilla1501 10-22-2012 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9037627)
How the **** can Clark be cheap in the MLS? $1 million dollars salary a year is one of the tops for most MLS starters.

Hell about 3/4 of the players only make like 55k a year.

I've been to Crew Stadium before. It's a piece of shit stadium in a horrible location. My friends have told me talks always open up about moving the stadium to the downtown area. The stadium would crush it there. But the Hunts never seemed to want to do anything with the team.

KCrockaholic 10-22-2012 12:44 AM

Of course I was exaggerating, but I really don't know too many soccer fans. I can count on one hand how many people I know of that actually follow SportingKC, like I do the Chiefs.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9037658)
I'll be the first to admit that I am not a soccer fan. I don't dislike soccer, nor do I hate it, but much like baseball, it's an acquired taste.

That said, soccer in the U.S. is growing exponentially. It's impossible for me, in Los Angeles, to go virtually anywhere without seeing or hearing soccer. I have old friends in JoCo that swear that Sporing KC and their stadium are second to none in terms of value, sight lines and fun.

Again, not my trip but its ludicrous to state that soccer is somehow invisible.

For sure...yea obviously I am all in on soccer but respect your opinion. It is not for everyone but its growth and trajectory are undeniable. It is cool to hear you say that being an LA guy. Even though the Galaxy probably haven't reached their potential and Chivas is the one MLS organization that straight up is not at all working.

SKC has (this is a common opinion not a homer take) the nicest soccer specific stadium in North America. Its just an incredible place.

Local ownership that cares...a team full of likeable players and everyone is obsessed with winning championships and making sure fans have a good time.

Sporting averages more fans per game than there are seats available. Crazy times.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9037659)
I've been to Crew Stadium before. It's a piece of shit stadium in a horrible location. My friends have told me talks always open up about moving the stadium to the downtown area. The stadium would crush it there. But the Hunts never seemed to want to do anything with the team.

The first ever soccer specific stadium...heh...was a big deal back in the day but it is a tin can now.

DaneMcCloud 10-22-2012 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037661)
For sure...yea obviously I am all in on soccer but respect your opinion. Itis not for everyone buts growth and trajectory are undeniable.

SKC has (this is a common opinion not a homer take) the nicest soccer specific stadium in North America. Its just can incredible place.

Local ownership that cares...a team full of likeable players and everyone is obsessed with winning championships and making sure fans have a good time.

Sporting averages more fans per game than there are seats available. Crazy times.

I think it's awesome for the fans, KC and soccer.

Maybe someday, if time permits, I'll get into the sport. :)

|Zach| 10-22-2012 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9037663)
I think it's awesome for the fans, KC and soccer.

Maybe someday, if time permits, I'll get into the sport. :)

If you ever make it back in town around these parts in season hit me up and I will get you set up for a game. You don't even have to like soccer to have a good time.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/c0zBKtfAZCA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

AussieChiefsFan 10-22-2012 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037661)
For sure...yea obviously I am all in on soccer but respect your opinion. It is not for everyone but its growth and trajectory are undeniable. It is cool to hear you say that being an LA guy. Even though the Galaxy probably haven't reached their potential and Chivas is the one MLS organization that straight up is not at all working.

SKC has (this is a common opinion not a homer take) the nicest soccer specific stadium in North America. Its just an incredible place.

Local ownership that cares...a team full of likeable players and everyone is obsessed with winning championships and making sure fans have a good time.

Sporting averages more fans per game than there are seats available. Crazy times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037665)
If you ever make it back in town around these parts in season hit me up and I will get you set up for a game. You don't even have to like soccer to have a good time.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/c0zBKtfAZCA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Just awesome!

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9037658)
I'll be the first to admit that I am not a soccer fan. I don't dislike soccer, nor do I hate it, but much like baseball, it's an acquired taste.

That said, soccer in the U.S. is growing exponentially. It's impossible for me, in Los Angeles, to go virtually anywhere without seeing or hearing soccer. I have old friends in JoCo that swear that Sporing KC and their stadium are second to none in terms of value, sight lines and fun.

Again, not my trip but its ludicrous to state that soccer is somehow invisible.


And yet even with their winning and being the post season there just is no major buzz about the team around town. When the Chiefs or Royals are winning the city is just electric. With soccer, not so much. You hear and feel more depression because of the Chiefs than get from Sporting.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037670)
And yet even with their winning and being the post season there just is no major buzz about the team around town. When the Chiefs or Royals are winning the city is just electric. With soccer, not so much. You hear and feel more depression because of the Chiefs than get from Sporting.

The newspaper coverage they get is "ok" the radio coverage they get is pretty good as is local TV coverage. A lot of the columnists in town dig the team but they know where their views come from.

It is all funny though. We are talking about a league that is 17 years old. The steps they have made in this town are incredible. They get exclusive coverage now and front page features on the sports page when it used to be they would have to win a trophy to get more of a box score.

Nobody is debating the place the Royals and Chiefs have in this town but the coverage they get isn't nothing. It is about what I would expect.

Everyone laughed when I brought it up (which I get) but a lot of small things like SKC players doing the Plaza lighting ceremony this year. That is a *very* Kansas City thing. This team is well embedded in the local culture.

chiefzilla1501 10-22-2012 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037670)
And yet even with their winning and being the post season there just is no major buzz about the team around town. When the Chiefs or Royals are winning the city is just electric. With soccer, not so much. You hear and feel more depression because of the Chiefs than get from Sporting.

Major media buzz? No. But the niche audiences eat that shit alive. Look up a soccer bar and watch a World Cup game there sometime -- doesn't matter what country. You will be surprised how packed those places get.

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9037672)
Major media buzz? No. But the niche audiences eat that shit alive. Look up a soccer bar and watch a World Cup game there sometime -- doesn't matter what country. You will be surprised how packed those places get.

I'll pass thanks. I hate soccer.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:02 AM

Sports Illustrated is actually doing a big story on Kansas City and soccer...the team and how much the community has embraced the sport as a whole. Should drop pretty soon.

chiefzilla1501 10-22-2012 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037673)
I'll pass thanks. I hate soccer.

I'm not a soccer fan. I never understood people who try so hard to hate it.

Live soccer games are a ton of fun. And soccer bar crowds are a bunch of fun too. You don't have to obsess over the sport to enjoy the atmosphere.

Phobia 10-22-2012 01:05 AM

I'll go to a soccer match with you, Zach. But you have to guarantee it won't end up in a tie and I won't have to wear a scarf.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9037678)
I'll go to a soccer match with you, Zach. But you have to guarantee it won't end up in a tie and I won't have to wear a scarf.

Haha, there has only been one 0-0 tie all year so you should be safe. Impossible to get tix for Wednesday how about you come to a playoff game sir.

Of course you realize I am putting you with the rowdies. The old men sort of stand at the back so maybe that will work out well. You can't be offended by bad language and nobody really sits.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:10 AM

Actually no...I don't believe there has been a 0-0 game at home all year. I take it back.

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9037676)
I'm not a soccer fan. I never understood people who try so hard to hate it.

Live soccer games are a ton of fun. And soccer bar crowds are a bunch of fun too. You don't have to obsess over the sport to enjoy the atmosphere.


I didn't always hate it. I used to just not like it. The hate evolved from the elitist fans who tell me I don't like it because "I don't understand it". No, I understand it and still don't like it. The fan base just gets majorly butt hurt by people who don't buy in. I had a thread on here a couple of years ago that perfectly illustrated it. I mean there was someone wishing death on me. It is because of this that I hate soccer.

Phobia 10-22-2012 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037679)
Haha, there has only been one 0-0 tie all year so you should be safe. Impossible to get tix for Wednesday how about you come to a playoff game sir.

Of course you realize I am putting you with the rowdies. The old men sort of stand at the back so maybe that will work out well. You can't be offended by bad language and nobody really sits.

I'm doing something very important for SOC Wednesday so that's okay. I can't stand near old men. I have a construction company and I did 5 years in the USMC. I can handle language. I'm not sure I can stand for all 10 hours of a soccer match though.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037682)
I didn't always hate it. I used to just not like it. The hate evolved from the elitist fans who tell me I don't like it because "I don't understand it". No, I understand it and still don't like it. The fan base just gets majorly butt hurt by people who don't buy in. I had a thread on here a couple of years ago that perfectly illustrated it. I mean there was someone wishing death on me. It is because of this that I hate soccer.

This often comes from people going on and on about soccer while experiencing first hand soccer at a level not representative of the sports in its modern form in this country.

I mean noobs get destroyed for not knowing intricate almost crazy details of the Chiefs...their history...their style of play...and the qualities of each and every player.

Soccer haters often work off assumptions that don't even come close to that level of detail. It is usually the soccer version of thinking each team gets 5 downs in football.

I agree the way some soccer fans come off isn't the way I like to come off and I can find it obnoxious but if you think its unique to soccer fans its not. Also, I have seen these threads play out...lets just agree that it probably didn't start by some soccer guy going elitist out of nowhere...people love poking that bear.

chiefzilla1501 10-22-2012 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037682)
I didn't always hate it. I used to just not like it. The hate evolved from the elitist fans who tell me I don't like it because "I don't understand it". No, I understand it and still don't like it. The fan base just gets majorly butt hurt by people who don't buy in. I had a thread on here a couple of years ago that perfectly illustrated it. I mean there was someone wishing death on me. It is because of this that I hate soccer.

That's news to me. The butt hurt I've seen is mostly from people who tell soccer fans that soccer isn't a real sport. Can't blame them for getting defensive. I'm anything but a soccer fan. I only watch it so I can find another excuse to drink with friends. But as a non-soccer fan, I can tell you that the constant questioning of the sport's legitimacy is a hell of a lot more annoying.

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037685)
This often comes from people going on and on about soccer while experiencing first hand soccer at a level not representative of the sports in its modern form in this country.

I mean noobs get destroyed for not knowing intricate almost crazy details of the Chiefs...their history...their style of play...and the qualities of each and every player.

Soccer haters often work off assumptions that don't even come close to that level of detail. It is usually the soccer version of thinking each team gets 5 downs in football.

I agree the way some soccer fans come off isn't the way I like to come off and I can find it obnoxious but if you think its unique to soccer fans its not. Also, I have seen these threads play out...lets just agree that it probably didn't start by some soccer guy going elitist out of nowhere...people love poking that bear.

I'm not going to lie, I started the thread and "poked that bear". But the key point is I started a thread for anyone who shared my dislike of the sport. I did not go jumping in on the World Cup thread and bothering those who were getting off on it. If someone didn't like my take on the game they could have ignored it as I ignored their thread and left it to me and the other soccer haters. But is that what they did? Oh hell no. They got all defensive, and then offensive like I had gone trolling on a soccer board.

Phobia 10-22-2012 01:23 AM

Soccer is definitely a sport. Those guys work almost as hard as NASCAR drivers out there on the field.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9037687)
That's news to me. The butt hurt I've seen is mostly from people who tell soccer fans that soccer isn't a real sport. Can't blame them for getting defensive. I'm anything but a soccer fan. I only watch it so I can find another excuse to drink with friends. But as a non-soccer fan, I can tell you that the constant questioning of the sport's legitimacy is a hell of a lot more annoying.

There is a lot of...taking the lowest common denominator about the sport and the American version of the sport and casting it across the league.

This league is only 17 years old and absolutely has been a mess for some of those years. It really turned a corner around 2007 or so. You really saw the league find its legs in a lot of different ways.

The modern version of the world's sport is a tough physical style of play with great athletes. The MLS values a style of play that Americans find important.

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9037687)
That's news to me. The butt hurt I've seen is mostly from people who tell soccer fans that soccer isn't a real sport. Can't blame them for getting defensive. I'm anything but a soccer fan. I only watch it so I can find another excuse to drink with friends. But as a non-soccer fan, I can tell you that the constant questioning of the sport's legitimacy is a hell of a lot more annoying.


It's a real sport. And those who play it are some big time athletes.

The sport just sucks.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037692)
I'm not going to lie, I started the thread and "poked that bear". But the key point is I started a thread for anyone who shared my dislike of the sport. I did not go jumping in on the World Cup thread and bothering those who were getting off on it. If someone didn't like my take on the game they could have ignored it as I ignored their thread and left it to me and the other soccer haters. But is that what they did? Oh hell no. They got all defensive, and then offensive like I had gone trolling on a soccer board.

So you troll'd soccer fans and are judging them for not responding to you in good faith.

Good work bro.

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037694)
There is a lot of...taking the lowest common denominator about the sport and the American version of the sport and casting it across the league.

This league is only 17 years old and absolutely has been a mess for some of those years. It really turned a corner around 2007 or so. You really saw the league find its legs in a lot of different ways.

The modern version of the world's sport is a tough physical style of play with great athletes. The MLS values a style of play that Americans find important.


Except for the whole tie thing...

Phobia 10-22-2012 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037696)
So you troll'd soccer fans and are judging them for not responding to you in good faith.

Good work bro.

He should die.

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037696)
So you troll'd soccer fans and are judging them for not responding to you in good faith.

Good work bro.

Nooo. If I had been trolling them I would have done so in their own thread. I started my own for those who felt the same as I do. There is a difference.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037697)
Except for the whole tie thing...

You are going to hate this...and I am happy to explain why if I thought you actually cared but the tie thing is absolutely not seen as an issue.

Mostly because a tie is never at all a tie to the fans and teams that come away from it.

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9037698)
He should die.


Apparently.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037699)
Nooo. If I had been trolling them I would have done so in their own thread. I started my own for those who felt the same as I do. There is a difference.

Not in the least.

I would absolutely be trolling baseball fans if I made a thread inviting other people fans to share how much I dislike the sport.

It is ok that you troll soccer fans...no biggie...it just makes your whole "I hate how soccer fans interacted with me" schtick fall on its face.

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9037698)
He should die.

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037701)
Apparently.

Did I miss something?

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037700)
You are going to hate this...and I am happy to explain why if I thought you actually cared but the tie thing is absolutely not seen as an issue.

Mostly because a tie is never at all a tie to the fans and teams that come away from it.


:spock: Uh, I'm almost scared that an explanation would send me into despair...

|Zach| 10-22-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9037704)
:spock: Uh, I'm almost scared that an explanation would send me into despair...

If the University of Missouri would have tied the University of Alabama last weekend in college football. If ties could happen in college football.

Would both of those teams come away thinking oh well...sort of lost...sort of won...gotta do better.

Absolutely not. It would be a win for Missouri. They got in the way and got partial credit in the ongoing progression of their season.
Alabama would feel like it was a complete loss. They couldn't secure a win against a team that was flailing like Missouri.

That does not even take into account the nature of the game.

3 points for a win...1 point for a tie...0 points for a loss.

http://i.imgur.com/x6N4P.jpg

Raiderhater 10-22-2012 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9037702)
Not in the least.

I would absolutely be trolling baseball fans if I made a thread inviting other people fans to share how much I dislike the sport.

It is ok that you troll soccer fans...no biggie...it just makes your whole "I hate how soccer fans interacted with me" schtick fall on its face.

Actually, yes. Obviously fans were going to chime in with their two cents but, the thread was not for them, it was for the other soccer haters. The soccer fans chose to participate in that thread. I chose NOT to participate in their thread.

There most certainly is a difference.


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