Lance Armstrong Stripped of All Seven Tour de France titles
 

I wonder what this will do for cycling and for Lance?

this thread needs deleted as nobody in the World gives a ****..

So a guy who everyone knows who he is gets stripped of the very thing that made him known to everyone isn't news?

**** that shit.

I still love Lance, he is a bad ass mother ****er.

Not really.

Really isnt going to effect mainstream sports.

Cycling is a sport?

Lets do the "Is it a true sport?" test.

Question 1. Do you not sweat when you train for this?
Question 2. Could someone with little training be as good as you?
Question 3. Can you be drunk and do it better then when you are sober?

If you answered no to all of these questions then it probably is a sport. Might not be one you necessarily follow but it is a sport.

Absolute BS, Lance is ok in my book. Who gives a flying fukushima if he was doping, dudes a winner. Hire him for GM!

Glad it went down like this.
Just another fraud doper.
Now comes the lawsuits, and soon the tearful admision that Lance was doped to the gills.
I am pleased they left those years as "No winner". The whole era was doping filled.

Look back at this forum in 2004, D.C. posters were lining up kiss Lance's ass because he was "PUTTIN AN ASS WHIPPIN ON DEM FROGS YEEEEEEEHAW"

You bet I sweat when I train, it's doubtful that anybody could be better at this--I have years of experience, and I could never, ever be as coordinated drunk as I am sober.

Holy cow. Masturbation's a sport.

Every era. If you want to win at professional cycling, you pretty much have to do with Lance did.

If everyone is cheating is it still cheating?

Well, the French finally found a way to not lose. Sort of.

Exhibit A.

If masturbation is a sport, how come it is not in the Olympics like trampoline and rhythmic gymnastics?

My theory is it would distract all the athletes.

You are defending the French?

Yes.

This. It's just like baseball - who cares?

Although I think Lance is an uber douche so I just like seeing him get in trouble...

This post needs to be deleted as a vast majority of the World disagrees.

They'd never leave the locker room.

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Do not give 1 ****.

LOL...you can't strip him. He won them. Sorry Tourdegayshit.

Tour wants its money back!


http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/prud...ithout-winners

Snippet:

Tour de France organisers want Armstrong to repay $3 million prize money

Christian Prudhomme, the director of the Tour de France, has confirmed that he does not want Lance Armstrong’s seven Tour de France victories reassigned after the UCI ratified the USADA verdict to ban the Texan and disqualify him from results going back to August 1998.

Prudhomme also said that he expects Armstrong to pay back his estimated three million dollars he won in the race.

“There won’t be a winner. The formal decision will be taken by the UCI on Friday but for us, it’s very clear; we want to leave the palmares blank,” Prudhomme told the Reuters news agency after hearing Pat McQuaid speaking during his Geneva press conference.

“The USADA report accuses a system and an era. This era must be remembered as an era without winners.”

According to l’Equipe, Armstrong won approximately 2.95 million Euro via his seven Tour de France victories and six stage victories. Prudhomme insisted that this money will have be paid back, even if it has been shared amongst teammates.

Cycling in general is filled with doping.

If you win, you were probably cheating. You may have just been doing a better job of not getting caught.

Look at these huge cycling teams and the amount of money going into them. And anytime one of them gets raided, there's some super-chemist with his name on a balance sheet somewhere.

I say cycling should just give up and let them inject themselves with whatever horse testosterone trips their trigger. A clean rider has absolutely not chance against these guys and if they get stripped 5 years later they don't really give a !@#$ (money's been made).

The only reason I care is that a really legendary story has gone by the wayside - what if he was clean. Alas, we probably should've known it was too good to be true.

In a related story, Sheryl Crow wants her virginity back....

Exhibit B.

That's okay. They do require defending from time to time.

Ask Carl Lewis.

Upon closer inspection, they also discovered that he was riding a motorcycle in the 2003 race.

Stay tuned folks, NOW it's gonna get good...

If Lance "comes clean" he'll basically admit he lied to the feds. I don't think we will ever hear a confession. His best alt is to STFU before he has to give back all his prize money.
I'm not sure LA is wired that way.
LA is still going to have many civil suits to deal with, so that will eat up a lot of $. Cheating is one thing, but you can't cheat AND be a dick about it all your life.
I'm sure LeMond and the Andreu's lawyers are salivating.

:LOL:

I'll say this once so I don't get in the habit of bumping this thread but I honestly could not care less what happens to Lance or his titles. Keep em, strip em, doesn't matter. It's cycling.

I'll take "No one will ever care about cycling anymore" for $800, Alex.

I find it interesting simply for the fact that according to the article he was tested an average of 1.5 times a month for fifteen years, and never failed. I'm not saying he didn't dope but damn, that is some dedicated doping. If true, he spent just as much time and effort beating the system as he did training.

Not much of an effort when:

A) You have inside knowledge when the testing is going to occur.
B) You know how to beat the test.
C) You are a protected rider by the UCI

This is all true. I'm just saying:

A) Even if you know when the testing is you still have to cycle off, and at 1.5 time a month (assuming like the article says he never failed) then that leaves only about one week to actually be on the juice.
B) There are ways to beat the test but at that frequency he would have to know A and B which would require help. (And fresh urine)
C)If this is true then it is a conspiracy and people were getting something for covering the whole thing up. The union shouldn't be off the hook of an investigation.

They are doing this just like the NFL bounty deal, saying they have overwhelming evidence but not actually telling anybody what it is. Not that have to or care to I just find it interesting. I was a big Armstrong fan but ultimately they are doing this to late for anybody other than those people who are involved to care.

Better strip every person that placed in the top 100.

If you read the report (yeah its huge and takes a while), you'll find that the testing regime back then was laughably pathetic.

First of all, the stuff they were taking usually became undetectable within hours (the testers didn't know that, they were behind the cheaters in chemistry knowledge), and they knew there was almost zero chance of being woken up in the middle of the night. So, they usually doped right before going to bed.

The times when this was not an option (they needed to take something that is detectable longer than a few hours), they somehow had insider knowledge tipping them off when the "random" drug test was going to happen.

A few times when this all failed, the drug tester was so incompetent or easily-intimidated that they were able to delay him long enough to hook Lance up to a saline IV that made whatever he took undetectable.

One time when Lance was taking something that couldn't be washed out and they were surprised with a test that they weren't tipped off about, luckily for Lance, he was out of the hotel and his team was able to warn him by text. Lance, knowing he was nailed, formally dropped out of the race, then as a non-competitor he couldn't be tested.

Beyond all of that, he actually did test positive a few times and was nailed, but every time he either got off on a technicality (French test) or the UCI just made the results go away (a few results back then which were merely labeled "suspicious" would now be considered "positive" under today's standards), or the positive tests happened after 2009 where people could say "oh, who cares".

He was guilty as hell. He also can never admit it unless he works out a deal with the Feds, because he perjured himself.

especially the female division

http://assets.cyclingforums.com.s3.a...attach1410.jpg

Yes.

French Cyclists Declaring Victory Over Lance Armstrong


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Hmmm. Yeah I did not know that. Thank you.

Well, I'm curious to see how this part of it all works out now.

Betsy Andreu went on CNN, 5 minutes after the Lance interview to say the part where he claimed to have called her and apologized and everything was good now between the two was basically bullshit.

He really is an incredible dirtbag. The cheating is bad. There are lots of cheats.

There aren't lots of people that are so brazen and morally bankrupt that they will attack, damage, and in some cases basically ruin other peoples lives b/c they told the truth about him.

He makes Roger Clemens look semi respectable.

Why in the holy hell would this moron come clean at this point??
I just don't get it.
Did Oprah offer him $100 mil to do so? Surely not. So....why?

****ing French.

On a related subject, Oprah somehow looks worse than she did when she weighed 800 pounds.

Also Oprah clearly was intimidated and nervous during the whole interview.

Terrible showing on her part.

He wants to have shot at coming back again.