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Mr. Laz 10-23-2012 12:25 PM
Draft order (10-23-12)
 
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    October 23, 2012
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    P Indicates final seletion position TBD by playoff results
    F indicates poisition(s) TBD by coin flip

    * Note that the opponent's cumulative W-L record is based on each team's full 16-game schedule and no just on the games they have played to date.

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    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">Team
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; "><small>W-L
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>Opp W-L %</small>
    </td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td>1</td><td><small>Cleveland</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; ">1-6</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; ">.495</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td><small>2</small>
    </td><td>Kansas City</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; ">1-5</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; ">.450</td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td>3
    </td><td>Carolina</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>1-5</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.525</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td><dt>4
    </dt></td><td><dt>Jacksonville</dt></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>1-5</small>
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.547</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td><dt>5</dt></td><td><dt>Oakland</dt></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>2-4</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.414</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>6
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>Tampa Bay</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; "><small>2-4</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.490</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td><dt>7
    </dt></td><td><dt><small>New Orleans</small></dt></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>2-4</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.500</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">8</td><td style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Detroit</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>2-4</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.623</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><td><dt>9</dt></td><td><small>Cincinnati</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>3-4</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.441</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><td>10
    </td><td>Buffalo</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>3-4</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.477</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">11</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>St. Louis (from Washington)</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold; "><small>3-4</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.515</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>12
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>NY Jets</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold; "><small>3-4</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.519</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>13
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>Tennessee</small>
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold; "><small>3-4
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.534</small>
    </td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>14
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>St. Louis</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold; "><small>3-4</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.556</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td>15</td><td>Pittsburgh
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>3-3</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.443</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>16
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>Philadelphia
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>3-3
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.490
    </small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td>17</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">Miami
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>3-3</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.495</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>18</small>
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; ">Dallas</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; ">3-3
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; ">.519</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; "><small>19</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; ">Seattle</td><td style="vertical-align: top; ">
    <small>4-3</small>
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold; "><small>533</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>20
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; ">Arizona</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; "><small>4-3</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small style="font-weight: bold; ">.579</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">21P</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">San Diego</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; "><small>3-3</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.416</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>22P
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>Denver
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; "><small>3-3
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.436</small>
    </td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td>23P</td><td style="vertical-align: top; ">Indianapolis
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>3-3</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.481</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">24P
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">New England</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold; "><small>4-3</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.514</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; " align="left"><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>25P
    </small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>Green Bay</small>
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>4-3</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.571</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">26P
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">Baltimore</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; "><small>5-2</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small style="font-weight: bold; ">.452</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td style="vertical-align: top; ">27P</td><td>NY Giants</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>5-2</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.485</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>28P</small>
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; ">Minnesota</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; font-weight: bold; "><small>5-2</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.533</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; "><small>29P</small>
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; ">San Francisco</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>5-2</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.537</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td>30P
    </td><td><small>Chicago</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>5-1</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.519</small></td></tr><tr style="font-weight: bold; "><td style="vertical-align: top; ">31P
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; ">Houston</td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>6-1</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.490</small></td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">32P
    </td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; ">Atlanta</td><td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; "><small>6-0</small></td><td style="vertical-align: top; text-align: center; "><small>.394</small></td></tr></tbody></table><small></small>
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-King- 10-23-2012 12:25 PM
Woot!

Rain Man 10-23-2012 12:32 PM
The bye week really killed us.

evolve27 10-23-2012 12:43 PM
Landry Jones here we come!

BlackHelicopters 10-23-2012 12:43 PM
How does one out-Cleveland Cleveland?

Rausch 10-23-2012 12:55 PM
As long as we're 4 or above I'm not concerned.

It's when we have to trade up 6-10 picks just to have a shot that would worry me...

Mr. Laz 10-23-2012 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9042982)
How does one out-Cleveland Cleveland?
good news is that we win the draft tiebreaker with Cleveland so if we both end up with 1 win, we get the 1st pick.

bad news is that we lose the tiebreaker with jacksonville and carolina.

as of right now anyway

we also want to root for the teams they play to win so that their strength of schedule goes up.

suds79 10-23-2012 12:59 PM
This Sunday is huge. Head to head with Oakland. Must lose this.

I have no doubt they'd be in the QB market if they were drafting high enough.

Rain Man 10-23-2012 01:09 PM
You guys realize that Jacksonville's entire team was destroyed yesterday, right? He hurt his foot.

luv 10-23-2012 01:11 PM
I really hadn't paid enough attention to know that there were so many one win teams.

Frosty 10-23-2012 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9043036)
good news is that we win the draft tiebreaker with Cleveland so if we both end up with 1 win, we get the 1st pick.
The Chiefs play Cleveland, so they can't both have 1 win.

I guess they could tie. :shrug:

htismaqe 10-23-2012 01:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9043036)
good news is that we win the draft tiebreaker with Cleveland so if we both end up with 1 win, we get the 1st pick.

bad news is that we lose the tiebreaker with jacksonville and carolina.

as of right now anyway

we also want to root for the teams they play to win so that their strength of schedule goes up.
It's impossible for both us and Cleveland to finish with 1 win. :D

Mr. Laz 10-23-2012 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9043118)
The Chiefs play Cleveland, so they can't both have 1 win.

I guess they could tie. :shrug:
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9043137)
It's impossible for both us and Cleveland to finish with 1 win. :D
ok,ok,ok ya bastiges ... so if they end up with 2/3/4 wins

the tiebreaker part was the pertinent information


:p

Frosty 10-23-2012 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9043140)
ok,ok,ok ya bastiges ... so if they end up with 2/3/4 wins

the tiebreaker part was the pertinent information


:p
Does the head-to-head count in the tie breaker?

Mr. Laz 10-23-2012 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9043149)
Does the head-to-head count in the tie breaker?
No ... it should but it doesn't

Buck 10-23-2012 01:40 PM
Hell yeah, we made the playoffs!

Dave Lane 10-23-2012 01:41 PM
This Oakland game is a must lose. We need it!

Mr. Laz 10-23-2012 01:41 PM
draft order tiebreakers

1) non-playoff team pick first vs playoff team

2) If the teams were both playoff teams, team eliminated in earlier round picks first.

3) strength of schedule for each team. The team with the weaker SoS measure would pick first

4) If record/SOS tied and are in the same division or conference, use division and conference records to break ties.

5) coin flip determines who goes first.

saphojunkie 10-23-2012 03:42 PM
Picking at #2 is really interesting. Do you trade up for Geno Smith? Or do you assume that someone else trading up is going for Barkley?

I think, at that point, it becomes an insane landscape of teams trying to figure out what each other is doing.

Under no circumstances do I think that Cleveland drafts a QB though.

Not when they still have so many holes to fill on their team. They'd trade down and get as much talent as they can.

suds79 10-23-2012 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9043480)
Picking at #2 is really interesting. Do you trade up for Geno Smith? Or do you assume that someone else trading up is going for Barkley?
I think if you're a team who has identified Geno (or Barkley for that matter) as your guy, you don't take a chance.

You move up one spot and get the QB you want all along.

T-post Tom 10-23-2012 04:05 PM
Can't help but wonder how the QB rankings will change between now and draft day. Geno should be happy that they're not playing K-State again.

Bewbies 10-23-2012 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9043480)

Under no circumstances do I think that Cleveland drafts a QB though.

Not when they still have so many holes to fill on their team. They'd trade down and get as much talent as they can.
By the draft they will have a new owner, GM, front office, coaching staff. The chances they take a QB are as high, if not higher, than us...

Chief Roundup 10-23-2012 05:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9043536)
By the draft they will have a new owner, GM, front office, coaching staff. The chances they take a QB are as high, if not higher, than us...
If the Browns end up in front of us it is probably a positive since they haven't been able to draft a good QB since......shit I don't know. They can take the QB that wouldn't make it in the NFL anyway so we don't have to worry about that part of it.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-23-2012 07:21 PM
T-Dub.

aturnis 10-23-2012 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9043510)
I think if you're a team who has identified Geno (or Barkley for that matter) as your guy, you don't take a chance.

You move up one spot and get the QB you want all along.
If I pick #1 and am not in need of a QB, I trade the #1 pick to the Chiefs(picking #2 in this scenario), and trade the #2 pick to the highest bidder of teams after the remain QB of Geno/Barkley.

cdcox 10-23-2012 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9043036)
.

bad news is that we lose the tiebreaker with jacksonville and carolina.
Our SOS is weaker so we would draft before them.

cdcox 10-23-2012 10:27 PM
Official odds for the overall #1 pick. Rock on!

KC 50%
Jax 22%
Cleveland 12%
NO 8%
Field 8%

KC has a 92% chance of having a top 5 pick.

AussieChiefsFan 10-23-2012 10:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9042982)
How does one out-Cleveland Cleveland?
http://i.imgur.com/WThnd.png

Imon Yourside 10-23-2012 11:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9044508)
Ok that is friggin' hilarious.

BossChief 10-23-2012 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9043137)
It's impossible for both us and Cleveland to finish with 1 win. :D
That's not entirely true.

We could tie.

BlackHelicopters 10-24-2012 07:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9044508)
That dude looks serious.

htismaqe 10-24-2012 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9044620)
That's not entirely true.

We could tie.
A train loaded with AIDS-infected monkeys could crash into the stadium and shoot the players with antifreeze-loaded darts, too.

RippedmyFlesh 10-24-2012 09:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9044978)
A train loaded with AIDS-infected monkeys could crash into the stadium and shoot the players with antifreeze-loaded darts, too.
If they aimed for front office types instead of players I could live with this.

Mr. Laz 10-24-2012 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9044112)
Our SOS is weaker so we would draft before them.
you're so right ... i don't know what numbers i was looking at

i guess i missed the whole 400 vs 500 thing


just ignored that first number altogether. :doh!:

ptlyon 10-24-2012 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9043642)
If the Browns end up in front of us it is probably a positive since they haven't been able to draft a good QB since......shit I don't know. They can take the QB that wouldn't make it in the NFL anyway so we don't have to worry about that part of it.
Just like the New England Browns!


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