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Pooch 11-01-2012 09:40 PM

I do not understand why Stanzi did not play tonight.
 
Cassel lead us to another garbage TD!! Why not play the kid?

Brock 11-01-2012 09:41 PM

He's probably terrible too.

jd1020 11-01-2012 09:41 PM

Who ****ing cares?

He's terrible.

WV 11-01-2012 09:42 PM

Cassel needs to wear this albatross of suck all year long. We don't want him ruining another team now do we?

I like to think we're sending a warning to the NFL about Peeholy and Casshole!

Munson 11-01-2012 09:42 PM

Because he's worse than Cassel.

jspchief 11-01-2012 09:42 PM

Romeo is not exactly sure.

FAX 11-01-2012 09:42 PM

It's unconscionable.

FAX

the Talking Can 11-01-2012 09:43 PM

because he sucks

chiefs1111 11-01-2012 09:44 PM

because he sucks

milkman 11-01-2012 09:44 PM

Because Matt Cassel is the Garbage Man.

FAX 11-01-2012 09:45 PM

It doesn't matter if he sucks. He needs the PT.

FAX

Bugeater 11-01-2012 09:45 PM

He's busy fetching Romeo's food orders.

dannybcaitlyn 11-01-2012 09:45 PM

Personally I would like to see him get some game time. That way I know for certain we need to go ahead and get rid of him with cassel and Quinn.

DBOSHO 11-01-2012 09:45 PM

It makes no sense.

Why draft the guy if you have no intentions of playing him?

Games are out of hand. The only reason cassel is in there is that hes a "game manager" who is supposed to take care of the ball and not make mistakes. Granted some of them arent on him but hes obviously not doing that job well.

What do you have to lose?

ShortRoundChief 11-01-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 9075385)
Because he's worse than Cassel.

With all due respect, the abilty of this team's coaching staff to evaluate any position, let alone the quarterback is questionable at best.

milkman 11-01-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9075417)
He's busy fetching Romeo's food orders.

There's no way in hell that is a one man job.

Lonewolf Ed 11-01-2012 09:46 PM

Because garbage time IS Cassel time! Woo hoo!

And another thing, did anyone else laugh aloud when Romeo was covering his mouth on the second to last play when San Diego was taking a knee? What damned difference would it make if San Diego had someone read his lips? The game was over! They may as well have had the defense do the River Dance, FFS. It was over!! What a moronic excuse for a coach. Herm could beat this oaf at checkers.

Ceej 11-01-2012 09:46 PM

I do not like green eggs and ham.

Molitoth 11-01-2012 09:46 PM

Who is stanzi?

Rausch 11-01-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 9075420)
Personally I would like to see him get some game time. That way I know for certain we need to go ahead and get rid of him with cassel and Quinn.

This...

jd1020 11-01-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 9075422)
It makes no sense.

Why draft the guy if you have no intentions of playing him?

Seriously?

Stanzi was a ****ing 5th round pick.

He was drafted with hope. There is no hope. Therefor he doesn't play.

There are players who get drafted late and then cut in the same ****ing year. And here we are bitching about some dude who's probably worse than Cassel not getting a couple snaps when he couldn't even be respectable in preseason.

the Talking Can 11-01-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9075423)
With all due respect, the abilty of this team's coaching staff to evaluate any position, let alone the quarterback is questionable at best.

no, it is quite clear that they only acquire terrible QBs

evolve27 11-01-2012 09:46 PM

He's practice squad material

FAX 11-01-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 9075420)
Personally I would like to see him get some game time. That way I know for certain we need to go ahead and get rid of him with cassel and Quinn.

Just do the kid a favor and give him some game reps. What do you have to lose?

Not playing him is cheezy.

FAX

DeezNutz 11-01-2012 09:48 PM

Don't care. Fire Pioli.

DaWolf 11-01-2012 09:48 PM

He's a handpicked Pioli selection. Trust me, he sucks...

WV 11-01-2012 09:48 PM

I'm all for him playing if he can throw the ball through the luxury box and into Peeholy's face.

DBOSHO 11-01-2012 09:49 PM

Where would tom brady be if the patriots hadnt turned to him?

And before i have multiple idiots quoting this bitching at me for calling stanzi the next brady, i am not saying that.

ShortRoundChief 11-01-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9075440)
no, it is quite clear that they only acquire terrible QBs

My only hope is that he slipped through the cracks.

Smed1065 11-01-2012 09:49 PM

At this point, who the **** knows?

Deberg_1990 11-01-2012 09:49 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if they throw Stanzi a bone and let him start a game or two at the end of the season once the Chiefs are 1-13.

clyde05 11-01-2012 09:50 PM

There's no reason not to play him

WV 11-01-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9075474)
Wouldn't surprise me if they throw Stanzi a bone and let him start a game or two at the end of the season once the Chiefs are 1-13.

Tyler ****ing Palko has some NFL starts so why not at the end of the year.

Munson 11-01-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9075469)
My only hope is that he slipped through the cracks.

Doubtful. Pioli gravitates toward shitty QBs.

rico 11-01-2012 09:51 PM

Hell, even Palko was able to sneak in to garbage time vs. Chargers @ SD in 2010...

redfan 11-01-2012 09:53 PM

'Cuz he's a damn grown-ass man who still goes by Ricky.

Pooch 11-01-2012 09:54 PM

I am not saying he would be great or even any good but at this point does it even matter that much? We have had four years to see what we have in Cassel, I am just saying why not give the kid four minutes?

TEX 11-01-2012 09:55 PM

Because the kid does not belong in the NFL

Pooch 11-01-2012 10:00 PM

All these points are great!! You say he sucks or even he doesn't belong in the NFL!! If those are such great points about Stanzi, then why do we keep playing Cassel? At least Stanz has age going for him at this point!

Easy 6 11-01-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9075416)
It doesn't matter if he sucks. He needs the PT.

FAX

Thats all thats being asked... find out once and for all if there are glimmers of talent worth taking a closer look at, and move forward accordingly.

He sucks? who gives a damn, its NOT going to get any worse, so why not see.

jd1020 11-01-2012 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9075600)
Thats all thats being asked... find out once and for all if their are glimmers of talent worth taking a closer look at, and move forward accordingly.

He sucks? who gives a damn, its NOT going to get any worse, so why not see.

Pretty sure you would have seen a glimmer in preseason against 2's and 3's.

But all that was seen was a steaming pile of shit.

FloridaMan88 11-01-2012 10:06 PM

Stanzi is a poor man's Brodie Croyle.

Simply Red 11-01-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pooch (Post 9075359)
Cassel lead us to another garbage TD!! Why not play the kid?

http://i.imgur.com/W6UMO.jpg

DBOSHO 11-01-2012 10:07 PM

I refuse to look at the preseason as stanzis realistic shot. He was under pressure nearly every play.

RealSNR 11-01-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9075436)
Seriously?

Stanzi was a ****ing 5th round pick.

He was drafted with hope. There is no hope. Therefor he doesn't play.

There are players who get drafted late and then cut in the same ****ing year. And here we are bitching about some dude who's probably worse than Cassel not getting a couple snaps when he couldn't even be respectable in preseason.

It doesn't matter.

He's on the ****ing team and is something new and different. Any other coach desperate as Pioli and Crennel for a win would have exhausted ALL their options by now.

It doesn't logically make any sense how a regime can be fighting for their jobs so passionately yet be overlooking an obvious possibility that they haven't tried yet.

jd1020 11-01-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 9075622)
I refuse to look at the preseason as stanzis realistic shot. He was under pressure nearly every play.

Same shit Quinn dealt with but did he look like a completely overmatched dildo?

FAX 11-01-2012 10:08 PM

Hell ... forget all the "finding out" stuff. It's just stupid not to give your only freaking backup at the moment some game reps.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

FAX

Easy 6 11-01-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9075606)
Pretty sure you would have seen a glimmer in preseason against 2's and 3's.

But all that was seen was a steaming pile of shit.

Preseason, shmeseason... you cant bank ANYTHING on that.

Put him out there for real and lets find out for sure.

There is absolutely NOTHING to lose.

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9075600)
Thats all thats being asked... find out once and for all if their are glimmers of talent worth taking a closer look at, and move forward accordingly.

He sucks? who gives a damn, its NOT going to get any worse, so why not see.

I've stated this in another thread but it bears repeating.

Everyone outside of the secretary pool at One Arrowhead Drive is facing certain and impending unemployment.

If Romeo, Daboll, Nick Sirriani, the towel boy, or the guy that applies weekly collagen injections to Winston's DSL's, thought they could win with Stanzi, he'd be in the lineup.

FWIW, Kent Babb stated repeatedly this offseason (and last) that Stanzi would never be an NFL QB. Although I'm absolutely certain that Kent has more knowledge of personnel than Pioli, it's a fairly good bet that Pioli doesn't want him on the field, either.

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9075633)
Preseason, shmeseason... you cant bank ANYTHING on that.

The Chiefs stellar preseason record since 2007 has been a false indicator

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9075629)
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Pioli. Pioli. Pioli.

BossChief 11-01-2012 10:14 PM

Pretty sure Kent Babb said Stanzi was our best qb during OTAs.

rico 11-01-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9075665)
Pretty sure Kent Babb said Stanzi was our best qb during OTAs.

He did...and said something about hoping he wasn't digging his twitter grave or something along those lines. It was the day training camp began. His perception shifted during TC and preseason. What would lead to Stanzi looking like the best QB in OTA's, but the worst in TC? What is it they do differently in TC?

Easy 6 11-01-2012 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9075634)
I've stated this in another thread but it bears repeating.

Everyone outside of the secretary pool at One Arrowhead Drive is facing certain and impending unemployment.

If Romeo, Daboll, Nick Sirriani, the towel boy, or the guy that applies weekly collagen injections to Winston's DSL's, thought they could win with Stanzi, he'd be in the lineup.

FWIW, Kent Babb stated repeatedly this offseason (and last) that Stanzi would never be an NFL QB. Although I'm absolutely certain that Kent has more knowledge of personnel than Pioli, it's a fairly good bet that Pioli doesn't want him on the field, either.

Its hard to argue with that, because its true... but what other option is there at this point, more biding our time with cassel, brodie quinn?... the current math says its atleast worth a look, if only by virtue of him being the only QB left.

I have to maintain that nothing can be any worse, play the kid.

RealSNR 11-01-2012 10:19 PM

On Star Trek, you'd always see the Enterprise trying to escape from a violent space anomaly or trying to avoid annihilation from a fleet of enemy ships. The situation is always the same. Shield/energy/weapons/life support goes on a gradual countdown. 87%... 64%... 42%... 39%... 15%...

Then (let's just say Picard) says "Options? Mr. LaForge!"

Then LaForge says, "Captain, we've got a hull breach imminent if we don't get out of here, but we need power converted through the plasma manifolds, and if they take on any more stress they'll buckle! We'll have a warp core breach!"

Then Picard's just like, "Well, what the **** can we do?"

Then Data turns around and says, "Captain, why not use the graviton energy from our tractor beam to form a barrier around the plasma coolant while power is routed through those systems? I estimate we would have 15 seconds of time to get our warp engines back online. However, we suffer the risk of overloading the censory matrix. The entire sector would be flooded with graviton radiation"

Captain: *as shit is exploding and catching on fire around him* "MAKE IT SO!"

*It works and the episode ends*

Know why Captain Picard always says "Yes" to that crazy idea? Because if he doesn't, he's going to ****ing die, that's why.

Right now Pioli and Crennel are stalling, saying, "Just give the shields some time. They'll hopefully hold long enough until we receive help"

We may as well turn to the crazy solution and try to get something going.

Bump 11-01-2012 10:22 PM

How does everybody know for sure if Stanzi sucks or not? What is this based on?

FAX 11-01-2012 10:23 PM

So ... that means that Dr. Crusher gives Clark a morphine injection and a BJ?

FAX

RealSNR 11-01-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9075729)
So ... that means that Dr. Crusher gives Clark a morphine injection and a BJ?

FAX

Pretty sure Deanna Troi does that. What else is she going to do in combat?

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9075729)
So ... that means that Dr. Crusher gives Clark a morphine injection and a BJ?

FAX

That's probably a better scenario than Mr. LaForge.

BossChief 11-01-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9075724)
How does everybody know for sure if Stanzi sucks or not? What is this based on?

Stanzi sucks because in 5 or 6 plays in preseason, he was literally hit before he was done with his drop back and he couldn't turn that into 50 yard touchdown passes.

Also, he overthrew an open receiver once.

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2012 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9075724)
How does everybody know for sure if Stanzi sucks or not? What is this based on?

He was a fifth rounder. Tyler Palko started before him. Kyle Orton started before him. Brady Quinn started before him.

Every member of the Chiefs coaching staff and front office are facing certain job loss. If Stanzi had proven anything on the practice field, he'd be in a game.

Occam's Razor.

the Talking Can 11-01-2012 10:28 PM

there is no conspiracy to hold down the #3 QB on the worst team in the league people....jesus ****ing christ

you keep asking the same stupid ****ing question over and over just because you don't like the obvious and correct answer...

Dave Lane 11-01-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9075416)
It doesn't matter if he sucks. He needs the PT.

FAX

I agree lets see if he has anything at all or else we need 3 QBs next season.

RealSNR 11-01-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9075759)
He was a fifth rounder. Tyler Palko started before him. Kyle Orton started before him. Brady Quinn started before him.

Every member of the Chiefs coaching staff and front office are facing certain job loss. If Stanzi had proven anything on the practice field, he'd be in a game.

Occam's Razor.

Stanzi would be on the field if he had beaten Brady Quinn in training camp. He didn't.

Now that Quinn was put in because Cassel sucks, Cassel I guess is the #2. Because Romeo wants the veteran or some shit like that who will give us the best chance to win. That's faulty ****ing logic. He wanted a new direction, so when that new direction is gone, the old direction is the best direction now?

Right now Stanzi should be starting. Period.

ClevelandBronco 11-01-2012 10:31 PM

The guy is third string behind Cassel and Quinn, for Pete's sake. As far as I'm concerned, that means that he probably couldn't make the roster of any other team in the league.

BossChief 11-01-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9075759)
He was a fifth rounder. Tyler Palko started before him. Kyle Orton started before him. Brady Quinn started before him.

Every member of the Chiefs coaching staff and front office are facing certain job loss. If Stanzi had proven anything on the practice field, he'd be in a game.

Occam's Razor.

That's not all that goes into these dumb****s heads though, Dane.

Listen to Romeos reasoning for who he plays and his biggest factor is experience.

He literally thinks that the more experience a guy has, the better chance he gives you to win.

Listen to the pressers.

RealSNR 11-01-2012 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9075771)
there is no conspiracy to hold down the #3 QB on the worst team in the league people....jesus ****ing christ

you keep asking the same stupid ****ing question over and over just because you don't like the obvious and correct answer...

No, it's not a conspiracy. It's just stupidity.

When you are dangerously low in chip count in a poker game, you are forced to be reckless with your remaining chips. Playing conservatively won't get you back in the game.

By going to Cassel tonight, Romeo is still folding on high suited runners before the flop just because other people are getting into the pot. He's a shitty poker player and a shitty coach.

the Talking Can 11-01-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9075807)
No, it's not a conspiracy. It's just stupidity.

When you are dangerously low in chip count in a poker game, you are forced to be reckless with your remaining chips. Playing conservatively won't get you back in the game.

By going to Cassel tonight, Romeo is still folding on high suited runners before the flop just because other people are getting into the pot. He's a shitty poker player and a shitty coach.

ROFL

sure...whatever floats your boat...

TLO 11-01-2012 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pooch (Post 9075359)
Cassel lead us to another garbage TD!! Why not play the kid?

Because he sucks worse than Cassel. Think about that.

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2012 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9075800)
That's not all that goes into these dumb****s heads though, Dane.

Listen to Romeos reasoning for who he plays and his biggest factor is experience.

He literally thinks that the more experience a guy has, the better chance he gives you to win.

Listen to the pressers.

Look, I know you're a Stanzi fan and all and I've flipped you shit (sometimes unnecessarily so) but if Romeo doesn't know he's fighting for his job, he's dumber than anyone that's ever coached, played, managed or had any role in the NFL.

If Ricky Stanzi could deliver, he'd be on the field.

notorious 11-01-2012 10:37 PM

Stanzi must be a horrifically shitty QB to not see the field.


Eventually we will get bored with the team's current failures, and Stanzi will be good for a lot of new, fresh laughs during the last 2-3 games.

RealSNR 11-01-2012 10:37 PM

Whatever. I don't give a flying **** if Stanzi plays or not. We're far from done in losing enough games. Stanzi would probably lose them all just like Cassel and Quinn would.

I'm just saying. If I were Crennel and I wanted to keep my job next year, I'd be trying everything. I'd be pulling all the levers. Pushing all the buttons.

And I'll bet you would all be doing the same. Feel free to say, "Whatever, Stanzi sucks" but you all know you would.

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9075783)
Right now Stanzi should be starting. Period.

He'd probably last 5 plays, get a concussion, and Cassel would return.

Win-win.

Titty Meat 11-01-2012 10:38 PM

The guy was benched during a pre season game

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 11-01-2012 10:39 PM

Romeo forgot he was active

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Mac Ver 2.0 (Post 9075827)
Romeo forgot he was active

LMAO

Reerun_KC 11-01-2012 10:41 PM

Play him for the simple reason to keep the #1 over all pick locked up.

The dude is garbage and makes Cassel look like Manning. I am all for playing the 5th round nobody.

rockymtnchief 11-01-2012 10:47 PM

All he has to do is hand off and not fumble. That already makes him better than Mark Castle.

wazu 11-01-2012 10:48 PM

NOTHING is worse than Cassel. Bringing back TYLER ****ING PALKO would be better than Cassel. Why some can't see this blows my mind.

Titty Meat 11-01-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9075889)
NOTHING is worse than Cassel. Bringing back TYLER ****ING PALKO would be better than Cassel. Why some can't see this blows my mind.

This isn't true at all.


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