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Mr_Tomahawk 11-02-2012 09:46 AM

Does the fact that Romeo is still the HC reflect Piolis future?
 
...if Pioli fires Crennel midseason, it leads me to believe he will be allowed to hire his 3rd HC next season.

The fact Crennel is still here makes me think Pioli is on his last leg...it's Crennel or bust for him.

Hammock Parties 11-02-2012 09:47 AM

Pioli is not firing anyone.

He's just waiting for the axe.

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-02-2012 09:50 AM

I think they're all completely aware that their days are numbered and are just waiting to get fired at this point. Pioli\Crennel\the whole bunch. But for some reason it's just flat not happening from above.

ptlyon 11-02-2012 09:53 AM

I think the fact he made us the new england browns should reflect his future

BlackHelicopters 11-02-2012 09:56 AM

Anyone know Clark Hunt't exact whereabouts right now? Hanging with Glass in NW Ark?

King_Chief_Fan 11-02-2012 09:58 AM

The fact that Daboll is the OC gets RAC fired and the fact that RAC is the head coach and DC gets Pioli fired and the fact that Pioli is GM should get ___________.

cjp27 11-02-2012 11:12 AM

The fact that Romeo is so bad that he deserves to be fired after 8 games is in itself a fireable offense by Pioli just for hiring him. No one gets fired until Pioli does. Then the dominoes start falling.

mcaj22 11-02-2012 11:13 AM

these guys make Todd Haley look like Vince Lombardi

cdcox 11-02-2012 11:46 AM

I see two options:

a. Wait the season out and fire everyone from the gm down.

b. Get a new QB in which case you are giving Pioli 3 more years. This option could be carried out with Romeo or more likely with coach 3.

Of course I favor a), but I'm not Clark.

Fritz88 11-02-2012 11:49 AM

The only reason, imo, that Pioli is here is because he negotiated himself one heck of a contract and it would be taxing for Hunt to fire him now.

ToxSocks 11-02-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9076901)
I think they're all completely aware that their days are numbered and are just waiting to get fired at this point. Pioli\Crennel\the whole bunch. But for some reason it's just flat not happening from above.

Because there is no point in firing them right now.

What is that going to accomplish exactly?

The Chiefs are all of a sudden going to be inspired by Mo Carthon?

Clark is going to let this team ride the suck wave till the last 1/4 of the season, just like he did with Carl.

Molitoth 11-02-2012 11:53 AM

Yup. There really is no point to fire Pioli right now.
He needs to be here to take the brunt of the blame.

Hopefully Hunt is doing the prepwork on finding a replacement though....

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-02-2012 11:53 AM

Kill him. Kill him now.

DO IT!

BossChief 11-02-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9077327)
I see two options:

a. Wait the season out and fire everyone from the gm down.

b. Get a new QB in which case you are giving Pioli 3 more years. This option could be carried out with Romeo or more likely with coach 3.

Of course I favor a), but I'm not Clark.

What head coach would hire on with Pioli remaining as the GM?

Eric Mangini?
Josh McDaniels?
Charlie Weis?

Haha

There really is only one option in this scenario...

DJ's left nut 11-02-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 9076934)
The fact that Daboll is the OC gets RAC fired and the fact that RAC is the head coach and DC gets Pioli fired and the fact that Pioli is GM should get ___________.

A facepalm.

Bugeater 11-02-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9077351)
Yup. There really is no point to fire Pioli right now.
He needs to be here to take the brunt of the blame.

Hopefully Hunt is doing the prepwork on finding a replacement though....

I agree with this. He should endure the suck just like the rest of us are.

DJ's left nut 11-02-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9077359)
What head coach would hire on with Pioli remaining as the GM?

Eric Mangini?
Josh McDaniels?
Charlie Weis?

Haha

There really is only one option in this scenario...

ENTER THE CHIN!!!!

http://daren18702.tripod.com/sitebui...xacerbated.jpg

TEX 11-02-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9077223)
these guys make Todd Haley look like Vince Lombardi

I spit my drink out all over my coffee table last night when I heard ESPN say that. ROFL

Marcellus 11-02-2012 12:02 PM

As much as I want to see bloodshed in the FO at Arrowhead, firing either Crennel or Pioli may cause a spark with the team creating some unwanted wins.

It really serves no purpose to fire them right now, its not like we have anything to gain by winning games.

whoman69 11-02-2012 01:33 PM

They're dead Jim. They're all dead.

htismaqe 11-02-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9077388)
As much as I want to see bloodshed in the FO at Arrowhead, firing either Crennel or Pioli may cause a spark with the team creating some unwanted wins.

It really serves no purpose to fire them right now, its not like we have anything to gain by winning games.

Bingo.

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-02-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9077340)
Because there is no point in firing them right now.

What is that going to accomplish exactly?

The Chiefs are all of a sudden going to be inspired by Mo Carthon?

Clark is going to let this team ride the suck wave till the last 1/4 of the season, just like he did with Carl.

Firing Pioli RIGHT NOW does multiple things.

1. It opens the market for us to openly shop for the new GM, instead of having to hire one in the small window of an offseason.

2. It sails the white flag for the remainder of the season so the rebuilding starts... The whole organization goes into evaluation mode instead of tryomg to squeeze out wins at all cost in the next 8 weeks.

3. It acknowledges to this reeling fanbase that we have a ****ing owner that gives a shit.

Obviously it ain't gonna happen though, you're right about that.

FlaChief58 11-02-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9077340)

The Chiefs are all of a sudden going to be inspired by Mo Carthon?

No, but it does get the word out that there are vacancies to potential candidates and it would show the fans that Clark really does care about winning.

RunKC 11-02-2012 02:05 PM

I don't want Clark to fire Pioli until the end of the season. We all know he's as good as gone, just a matter of when.

I want Pioli to watch as he gets raped by Haley and Peyton 2X, not take an early vacation.

Rausch 11-02-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9077855)
I don't want Clark to fire Pioli until the end of the season. We all know he's as good as gone, just a matter of when.

I want Pioli to watch as he gets raped by Haley and Peyton 2X, not take an early vacation.

This.

Stick Romeo/Pioli with this $3itty season. They made it - they should be responsible for all of it before they GTFO...

Marcellus 11-02-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9077822)
Firing Pioli RIGHT NOW does multiple things.

1. It opens the market for us to openly shop for the new GM, instead of having to hire one in the small window of an offseason.

2. It sails the white flag for the remainder of the season so the rebuilding starts... The whole organization goes into evaluation mode instead of tryomg to squeeze out wins at all cost in the next 8 weeks.

3. It acknowledges to this reeling fanbase that we have a ****ing owner that gives a shit.

Obviously it ain't gonna happen though, you're right about that.

Clark can shop for a GM before he fires Pioli. We do need to get out in front of the coaching thing though its going to be a bloodbath this off season.

MGRS13 11-02-2012 02:18 PM

Sorry to say this but I have seen nothing out of Clark to believe he will be firing any one. I firmly believe we enter next season with Pioli as GM RAC as HC and Cassel still on the roster. Don't like it but it is what it is.

FlaChief58 11-02-2012 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 9077893)
Sorry to say this but I have seen nothing out of Clark to believe he will be firing any one. I firmly believe we enter next season with Pioli as GM RAC as HC and Cassel still on the roster. Don't like it but it is what it is.

If that happens, we will know that Clark is selling the team and does'nt give a flying **** about winning

MGRS13 11-02-2012 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9077905)
If that happens, we will know that Clark is selling the team and does'nt give a flying **** about winning

I don't think he does give a flying **** about winning. I don't think he will sell the team either. He gets that NFL tv contract maney every year thats all he needs.

Marcellus 11-02-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 9077893)
Sorry to say this but I have seen nothing out of Clark to believe he will be firing any one. I firmly believe we enter next season with Pioli as GM RAC as HC and Cassel still on the roster. Don't like it but it is what it is.

You are out of your mind. There is a slim chance Pioli keeps his job, I dont believe it will happen but I will give you a sliver of a partial piece of some possibility on that one.

The other 2? You have to be trolling or smoking crack.

Ming the Merciless 11-02-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9076913)
I think the fact he made us the new england browns should reflect his future

ROFL

aturnis 11-02-2012 02:27 PM

I disagree. I think IF Pioli fired Crennel, he would lose his job by default. He was brought in to bring the stability of Pittsburgh. 3 coaches in 4 years is not stability.

Micjones 11-02-2012 02:59 PM

I actually think the opposite is true.
No way he could survive two in-season firings of his head coaches, in as many years.

petegz28 11-02-2012 03:46 PM

The most realistic reason Piloi and RAC will not be fired, according to Baldinger, is the $30 mil price tag that would come along with it.

Marcellus 11-02-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9078108)
The most realistic reason Piloi and RAC will not be fired, according to Baldinger, is the $30 mil price tag that would come along with it.

HTF is there $30MM wrapped up in a GM with 1 year left and a coach with 2 years left?

I am calling BS.:BS:

LOCOChief 11-02-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9077355)
Kill him. Kill him now.

DO IT!

Your wish is my comand sire. hahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

petegz28 11-02-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9078113)
HTF is there $30MM wrapped up in a GM with 1 year left and a coach with 2 years left?

I am calling BS.:BS:

I don't know where he got that number from. Hopefully it was just a number he threw out there for argument sake.

FlaChief58 11-02-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9078113)
HTF is there $30MM wrapped up in a GM with 1 year left and a coach with 2 years left?

I am calling BS.:BS:

And all the other support personnel that will be bought out, then you have to figure in all the new contracts. 30 mil is pretty close

Easy 6 11-02-2012 04:37 PM

I'm not buying any reasoning or rumors that finds a way to explain pioli & co staying on.

What we're witnessing is truly one for the record books.

No, Clark has to clean this up, theres no way around it... fait accompli.

T-post Tom 11-02-2012 04:47 PM

I may be wrong, but I don't believe you can raid another team's F.O. during the season.

Easy 6 11-02-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 9078203)
I may be wrong, but I don't believe you can raid another team's F.O. during the season.

You're not wrong at all.

Yet, the DECISION that needs to be made HAS to be plainly evident to Clark... it will happen probably within 48 hours of seasons end.

Its the only choice he has left, and he SURELY knows it... CLEAN IN 13.

Groves 11-02-2012 07:51 PM

Oh to be a fly on that wall.

Pioli had to be nervous long before now. His easiest path to retention was to begin the conversations with Clark about the firing of RAC.

Our only hope is that Clark had the brains to halt that discussion rather quickly. At that point, they all see it coming. The only question is when, and I don't blame Clark at all for not tipping his hand.

The brains part, though...I'm slightly worried.

jspchief 11-02-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9077822)
Firing Pioli RIGHT NOW does multiple things.

1. It opens the market for us to openly shop for the new GM, instead of having to hire one in the small window of an offseason.

2. It sails the white flag for the remainder of the season so the rebuilding starts... The whole organization goes into evaluation mode instead of tryomg to squeeze out wins at all cost in the next 8 weeks.

3. It acknowledges to this reeling fanbase that we have a ****ing owner that gives a shit.

Obviously it ain't gonna happen though, you're right about that.

Why isn't the market open right now? Personally, I hope Pioli is passing guys in the hallway on their way to interview with Clark.

CaliforniaChief 11-02-2012 10:12 PM

The writing is on the wall, and all of 'em are dead men walking.

But if we lose out on Marc Ross to Carolina/San Diego or whoever might be in the market for a new GM, I'm gonna be bent.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-04-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOCOChief (Post 9078119)
Your wish is my comand sire. hahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

That line is from....

http://www.destinationhollywood.com/...rs3_clip05.jpg

Hammock Parties 11-04-2012 04:52 PM

Clark is probably waiting til the replacement is secured before he removes the infection.

O.city 11-04-2012 04:54 PM

Once Pitt kicks our dicks in on mnf we will see if Romeo is let go. I don't see how pioli is allowed to fire another hc mid season without himself being punted to the curb

Mr. Flopnuts 11-04-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 9076934)
The fact that Daboll is the OC gets RAC fired and the fact that RAC is the head coach and DC gets Pioli fired and the fact that Pioli is GM should get ___________.

Matt Cassel cut.

lcarus 11-04-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9077351)
Yup. There really is no point to fire Pioli right now.
He needs to be here to take the brunt of the blame.

Hopefully Hunt is doing the prepwork on finding a replacement though....

This. I don't give a shit if Pioli and Crennel are fired during the season, just as long as the DECISION to fire them has been made. Clark needs to be searching for replacements NOW. However he can fire them both at the end of the season.

DaneMcCloud 11-04-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9083508)
Once Pitt kicks our dicks in on mnf we will see if Romeo is let go. I don't see how pioli is allowed to fire another hc mid season without himself being punted to the curb

There is no reason to fire Crennel or Pioli mid-season. Both will be gone at the end of the year and firing Crennel, even after his horrific display this season as a coach and leader, will only cause more apathy in the locker room.

Everyone knows the deal. Play it out, get it over with and move on. I'd like to think that Clark has already quietly begun forming a search committee for the next team president and GM.

Hammock Parties 11-04-2012 05:12 PM

Apathy in the locker room would be awesome.

BigChiefFan 11-04-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9083543)
There is no reason to fire Crennel or Pioli mid-season. Both will be gone at the end of the year and firing Crennel, even after his horrific display this season as a coach and leader, will only cause more apathy in the locker room.

Everyone knows the deal. Play it out, get it over with and move on. I'd like to think that Clark has already quietly begun forming a search committee for the next team president and GM.

I'd like to think so, as well. This team needs an enema.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-04-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9083543)
There is no reason to fire Crennel or Pioli mid-season. Both will be gone at the end of the year and firing Crennel, even after his horrific display this season as a coach and leader, will only cause more apathy in the locker room.

Everyone knows the deal. Play it out, get it over with and move on. I'd like to think that Clark has already quietly begun forming a search committee for the next team president and GM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 9083580)
I'd like to think so, as well. This team needs an enema.

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