Russ Lande says Chiefs should "stick to their board"
 

Geno Smith has all the tangibles - arm strength, accuracy, athleticism - and has a solid football IQ. He has poor mechanics and footwork. He's super raw and won't be ready to start right away, even in the shotgun NFL. Probably not worth a top 5 pick.

He sees Barkley are the flip side of the same coin - VERY polished, NFL-ready, but tangibles are average. Higher floor, lower ceiling. Would typically be a mid-1st guy (15-20).

He thinks Pioli is going to go with another late-rounder like Stanzi. And he hasn't once said he thinks that's the WRONG idea.

Oh god

He REALLY likes Tyler Wilson. Still doesn't think he's a top pick. Cites the "Petrino" factor.

Bray has nice upside but needs a lot of work. Glennon is way to inconsistent and not an accurate passer, which will hurt him at the next level.

What a boob

Like it or not. This is the year we have to daft a qb

Says it's a great year to take a QB in the 2nd and another in the 6th.

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ha ha

Hey mods, can I get an edit.

It was Russ Lande they were interviewing, not Matt Williamson.

Matt Williamson is who? And why is he in my head after lights out?

Matt Williamson works for ESPN and Scouts Inc. He's usually on on Tuesdays, or at least I thought he was.

This was actually Russ Lande.

Russ Lande is who? And why is he in my head after lights out?

it's never a great year to a QB in the 2nd....

wtf?

I'm tired of all the over the top bullshit with these QB's. Tannehill was scrutinized up and down and I just heard the other day he has the best completion percentage over 30 yards in the entire NFL. Rookie QB's are just getting better coming out and can make an immediate impact.

I know. He's over-thinking it.

But that's how he makes his money, obviously.

Accuracy is paramount. Because of that, I think it comes down to Smith and Barkley. I'll take Smith if that's the choice.

Take the best player on the board with the first pick. Then use the third or trade aplayer to get back into the first and take a QB. That would be the smart thing to do imo.

It is November and look at how these QBs are being talked about. Their stock will only go down guys. The damage is done.

Pioli should have taken Russel Wilson in the 3rd last season, knowing he had shit for QB.

Fire his ass.

Thanks for the input, Scott.

Tannehill had the same knock all these guys have. He shit the bed when the game is on the line. He didn't have "it" and he wasn't "clutch." We saw that last Sunday. Could you see the real difference between him and Luck? **** the stats guys.

It's not just about accuracy and the other crap. They are never going to win anything with Tannehill imo. We better find the "clutch" QB in this class or we are spinning our wheels. It's more important than anything in today's game. Far too many games come down to the end and it happens more often than not in the playoffs.

I really wanted Wilson. Most people had him going in the 5th round. Carroll was truly a genius taking him early. I can't really blame Pioli. It seems like Carroll has the best eye right now. He also took Richard Sherman in the 5th and that was a damn good pick.

Worked great for Cleveland trying that twice!!!

Shure thang bro.

Absolutely not. Take the best QB available regardless of what the experts say. For 30 years now we have tried bringing in veterans, passing on the best QBs for lesser ones later in the draft because they were too risky. Not this time, not this year. We need to get with the program because they way we have done it for 30 years has netted us 3 playoff wins, no SB appearances or SB wins. No more spending a top pick on ANY position until our QB position is addressed. Giving up picks to move back up is silly as we need to replace some of the players Piloi lets walk or positions he made poor choices on.

TY

Barkley, Wilson, Bray, Smith....

You cant go wrong with any of these 4. You take one and move forward. Stop masturbating to the 90's and wake the **** up...

Wilson would have actually been competition for Cassel and we all know that is not what Scott wanted.

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When will people like you realize players like Luck are very, very rare? The last QB is his category was Peyton. The other 31 teams have to settle for less than someone like that. Just because a QB isn't on the same level as Luck does not mean he is not a good if not great QB.

Yeah, that's what I was talking about earlier. They compare everyone to the once in a decade prospects and think trading down and snagging some slapdick in the 5th is just as good.

Their stock is only going to go up they are quarterbacks. Quarterbacks are prestige they are the guys that make or break a football program. RGIII stock was down this time of year then his stock sky rocketed before the draft. These guys stock is going to fluctuate up untill the draft then teams are going be players and make their stock go up just for their position and value. Not worried about their stock at the moment they still got games to play and the combine yet.

Brady Quinn and Brandon Weeden?

They're awesome!

I would agree that it did. I think they learned from the Tim Couch debacle. They reached big time for him.

In 2007, do you think they should have taken Brady Quinn at #3 over Joe Thomas? I mean they got Brady Quinn at #22 and the only QB taken before him was Jamarcus Russell. Should they have moved up to #1 and drafted Russell?

Last year they got Trent Richardson who might be the best player in that class. They waited around and got Weedan later in the first. Is he that much different than Tannehill? He was also a choker in college and wasn't "clutch." They took a calculated gamble taking Weedan where they did and it wasn't nearly the gamble Miami made. Tannehill's success lies with Sherman imo. Next year, Tannehill is going to suck when teams have tape on that offense.

In the end, one could argue that Cleveland's best two players came from making smart decisions in the draft.

You are ****ing idiot.

Clutch.

Like Jay Cutler.

Clark needs to put Pioli's head through the ****ing board.

Manning won ONE game his rookie season.

I'm sure Bob would have been telling us all that he's not clutch.

Yet we havent made a "SMART" decision in the draft in over 25 years...

Someday we will grow up and become an NFL team...

ROFL

That's why we're competing with them for the #1 pick in the draft.

ROFL

If clutch is the only thing that matters, we should work out a package to acquire Tim Tebow, yeah?

Right?

The players and fans LOVE him.

He gets a bad rap because of the media.

Is this guy blackbob? Woodsuck swallowpants?

Perhaps we should wait to see who the coach is for next season and what type of offense his OC wants to run and then choose the QB we will take in the 1st round?

Just saying...

Heh, he may have it in a glass cage "Walking Dead style" like the Gov. after this season ROFL

You couldn't tell?

Generally, quarterbacks are taken 10 picks to one round earlier than they graded out because of their position.

I see what you are saying but I'm not sure this year. These guys are all really overrated imo and the worst may be yet to come. If you really look at what they have done in the big picture it is not much.

True...

We need in no particular order

New GM
New HC
New OC and staff
New DC and staff
New QB
New WR's
New CB's
New Owner
New Cheerleaders
New Beer Vendors
New Parking Attendants
New Grass in the Stadium

Only took what 5 minutes to out him? ROFL

This. No excuse to do anything else than take a first rounder QB with our first pick.

Thankfully we dont value your opinion....

I DON'T GIVE A ****. DRAFT A QUARTERBACK WITH OUR FIRST PICK. GOD DAMN. LOOK WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE BIG PICTURE = FAIL

God ****ing damn it.

We went on this merry-go-round last year.

If you hit on a QB, then your team basically fixes itself. We're not the Indianapolis Colts. We don't need Jarvis Jones or any of these other slapdicks once we find the right QB. We're good to go RIGHT NOW.

That means don't **** around with trading up or down. ****ing grab your guy and go.

What part about a first round QB having a 30% chance of making it do you not understand? We may have to do this multiple times. This is a year where there isn't much difference in the top QBs.

Cleveland should be the model for what we are trying to do. If this one doesn't work out, we keep drafting them. When Cleveland drafted their QBs, the pickings were slim and not very different from what 2013 looks like.

What Cleveland did was smart. What about Cincinnatti? Were they dumb?

Following Cleveland as a model is not something that brings confidence. If they didn't like those guys enough to take them with their 1st pick, they shouldn't have taken them at all. They could have used resources to secure RG3 for ****'s sake.

When they drafted Carson Palmer you mean?

No, that was absolutely the right pick.

Like Cleveland, we are going to have to play the hand we are dealt and that's whole point.

Barkley sounds alot like another Matt Ryan. NFL ready, average tangibles. Not real sexy or exciting because he doesnt make plays with his feet or have the canon arm, so it doesnt excite alot of fans.

Just shut up already. Cincinatti drafted Andy Dalton AFTER they tried Carson Palmer, Akili Smith, etc. For them, drafting Dalton WAS the change-up.

Throwing out Cleveland as an example of the way you would do it just makes you look stupid. Stop.

The hand we are dealt is going to be the #1 overall pick. If we don't take a QB, were the dumbest franchise in NFL history.

Do you honestly believe that these top 3 QBs will be available in the late first round?

They will all be gone in the top 10, dumbass.

To be fair, what has Matt Ryan REALLY done? A lot of good regular seasons and no playoff wins is a pretty fair indictment thus far.

Passing on the first wave and trading back into the first nets you guys like Tebow, Quinn, and Weeden. Sweet moves bros.

We'll see if loading up the best group of WRs in the game around him is enough to get him to do anything

I get that. I do.....But dont overlook what he has done for that franchise as a whole. Stablized the program and made them perennial winners. Remember how downtrodden that franchise was before he arrived? The Vick and Petrino debacles.

We could always wait until the 2nd round. The next John Beck.

just shut the **** up, you ****ing idiot

no one cares what a ****ing idiot thinks, you ****ing idiot

I think that's fair, but he's made a ton of clutch 4th quarter plays in his career, just hasn't done it in the postseason yet. He can't fail again this year, he'll take some heat with another one and done as good as he's been in the reg. season.

They were in the Super Bowl in 1998. Just sayin'.

ROFL

gif WIN LMAO

I am talking about when they got AJ Green and Andy Dalton.

Palmer has had two winning seasons and two playoff losses in his career.

Do you think Andy Dalton will have a better career? I sure do.

WTF is so funny about that?

people were crying their stupid eyes out last year about how Tannehill wasn't worth a first round pick...

and they were wrong, per usual....

same shit this year...same shit every year....

This franchise is going nowhere unless we acquire that really good defensive prospect.

Sincerely,
2012, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2005, 2002, and friends

So are you saying you wouldnt want the Chiefs to have another Matt Ryan? If thats what your saying, your nuts.

The only way your comparison works is if you compare a team that had the #1 overall pick, you ****ing reerun. Cincinnati didn't even sniff the top 10 that year.

WE NEED TO TRADE DOWN SO WE CAN HAZ A LB

DERP

THEN MAYBE WHATEVER QB IS LEFT OVER

HERP

Great post. I went to the game Sunday night with three other guys. We talked about this for ten minutes. He saved the franchise. You have no idea how bad it was after the Vick and Petrinio debacles. After the Vick debacle, the fanbase was divided. It took a special player to fix that. Matt Ryan is a good example of why we better pay close attention to leadership when we are picking our QB. Matt Ryan is different this year. He has taken the next step.