Stephenson @ LT
 

sorry for the new thread. Im on the go so dont really have time to search n look. anyway, how has he looked from last week up to half-time? have not been keepin up on him.

Pretty darn good, to be honest. He's active in run blocking and has been riding those dwarf pass rushers out of the play on passes.

I can't really tell any difference

Stephenson has had a great half. I will be interested to see if he can keep it up. Conditioning becomes a factor in the second half, especially for rookies

He's playing well. Too well, actually.

I fear Albert is a goner this offseason.

he's been solid ... but we haven't asked him to maintain the blocks for long

This.

he's been good but I saw all the Denver players drunk yesterday.

chip shot for mr irrelivant :D

Yep. Its the Chiefs way.

Tough to tell as far as his pass blocking goes. The Chiefs played like straight up pussies offensively. They just ran the ball on every play and then would call a pass play every once in a while that gained 3 yards. If they played like a legit NFL team Von and Doom would have went off.

All things considered he played well for a rookie. Made some dumb mistakes, but I can't recall Dumerville or Miller involved in any sacks other than the one Miller got credit for when Quinn ran out of bounds behind the LOS.

lolz

He outplayed Clady.

We neutralized your piece of shit Vondoom combo by running the ball down their throats.

Deal with it.

I like the "trolling the troll" play :clap:

Geno gonna rape ya

Like most Pioli additions they run block like monsters and pass block like they're dancing with the stars...

I know that praising Pioli is a sin here, but he's done a nice job with the OL in the last 2 years.

They played really well today. Charles had some good holes to run through and VonDoom was essentially invisible most of the day. That's impressive since 2 rookies were starting.

An hour after the game, and Stephenson just picked up another holding call.

The oline is the only thing that has improved under Pioli. It's smart to take olinemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Might need to still eye a center in future drafts.

As a whole, Stephenson has done better than expected this year. Sure he wasn't expected to play as much as he has but since he has played, he hasn't been horrible. I think he has the making of being a quality LT in this league for many years. Still needs to get stronger and get better technique wise but the guy has God given ability that you need for a LT.

He played well. Then again the Chiefs dont throw all that much. lol Then again, we had jordan black here with herm did the same thing and he still sucked really bad. So yeah, he did well.

I'm not sure I agree with the general compliments about the offensive line. Given what we've invested, it seems like an underperforming group. In fact, many of the clips of Cassel being Cassel could actually be blamed on an offensive linemen or two or three getting destroyed.

With the high picks that we've invested, it doesn't seem like a talent problem. I think it's a game-planning problem. Blitzes and rush packages have bewildered our line all year. If you want to sack Cassel, all you have to do is alternate a few blitzes and stunts and you're pretty much guaranteed to have a rusher come free, and that's when the Cassel fun begins.

I'm not saying we need to replace the personnel at this point. I do wonder how they're game-planning, though, because our line is caught by surprise on every pass play.

he seemed to do okay, I didn't hear dumerville's name called once.

Didnt hear doomer or Von Miller's name at all really. Just that whitewood or whatever his name is.

Our oline is a little inconsitant at times, but over all they are solid. Problem is that our ****ing QB's have no pocket presence. All you have to do is go back to when Kyle Orton played and how in 3 games he was sacked once. Look at the pressure we put on Manning today, and how he knows where and when to step up in the pocket. Its quite amazing how good qb's can do that.

I would agree that the coaching is dog shit all the way around. A lot of players and all the coaches and gm should lose their jobs this year.

He played fine and if we had a QB the whole line would look ****ing great right now.

Kinda like the broncos played last year when they didn't have a qb

Improving on the POS we used to call an O-line is not hard.

We were trying to get big plays when we passed the ball last year. The Chiefs were obviously scared to death of Von and Doom. They never passed and when they did it was just one read and the ball was out.

THAT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A QB. you ****ing idiot
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We have an above average group of Olinemen who are all young and still developing. Investing two second round picks and two third round picks is a good investment. Those four picks in the last two years have turned around our line and will impact the team for years to come. If you want to bitch about something, bitch about how much we invested in the dline and have nothing to show for it.

You are like the bastard child of black bob and Denise. **** off and die asshole. I'd take Aldon Smith every day of the year over Miller.

Couldn't have been that we have shitbag qbs you coathangered fetus.

How else do you neutralize a good pass rusher? Take 7 step drops and lob 60 yard passes all day?

Houston had more sacks than VOOONDOOOM.

I know why you did it. You were scared shitless of our passrush, and you only scored 9 points because of it.

Not scared. Smart. Had we actually had a legit QB we would have owned you and your HOF QB today.

Our defense is built to stop good QB's. We made Drew Brees look like Matt Cassel.

Blah blah blah. No, the chiefs don't have a qb that can score points. Aren't you ****ing in your late 20s? Isn't the time to be a clueless fanboy over?

How about Brady? Did they stop him too?

kind of funny that he was honest about it...

They gained most of their yards on the ground when Von was out of the game. Brady played just OK against us. He had 220 something yards and 1 TD if I remember correctly.

We'll see come playoff time.

Post of the month right there. Step up and see it.


Edit: I thought we were talking about the Chiefs defense, and it's a hilarious post in that context.

I didn't notice. Did they bench him again for his inability to defend the run? I remember that happening last year in our game, too.

Have you watched a chiefs game all year?! We weren't afraid of VonDrool, we were afraid of Brady Quinn and Matt Cassel. We don't pass much, unless it's garbage time. What you saw today was the regular offensive game plan.

223 yds and a td by tom.

the pats rushed for 200+yds though LMAO.

He needed a breather. They couldn't run when he was in the game. He arguably had his best game as pro against NE.

I don't remember Von getting pulled against you guys, I do remember him getting pulled very early in the season against SD last year.

Did they stop him or that offense?

Stop with the ****ing excuses.

But, they got all those yards when Miller was getting his "breather".

We were trying they have that shitty pathetic offense for every game. Doesnt matter if its the Bronco's or the Browns, its the same pathetic offensive playcalling

no we are scared to death of our QB
your cute lil' nicknames really didn't matter

real QB maybe
but if they couldn't sack quin or stuff charles
meh

The Chiefs knew that they would get run out of their own building if they tried to pass the ball. We would have forced at least 4 or 5 turnovers if you tried to actually pass against us. It would have gotten ugly, and Romeo knew it.

Honestly, I know you're sticking your chest out pretty large tonight like you just played in the actual game, but this team has no QB, and your team knew that and still couldn't stop Jamaal Charles.

So spare me all this bullshit "Oh, you guys didn't want to pass on us". I'm sure it had NOTHING to do with your defense and everything to do with the fact we have the worst QBs in the entire world.

Your defense looked like a bunch of pussies today TBH.

Like I said earlier, this was the worst our defense has played all year. We are normally very good against the run. I don't think we played well in any phase.

Another outstanding game.

Stephenson is a rookie and has been shuttled around the Oline

he has done a fine job

Stephenson did a good job against some decent but unspectacular pass rushers today. Wonder how he'd handle the right side...

Actually Carolina has two very good defensive ends. Charles Johnson is a monster.

I was impressed.

I agree, they both have over 8 sacks on the season, they aren't elite though. I probably could have used a better word than unspectacular...

Charles Johnson is absolutely elite. He has flown under the radar for three seasons.

In fact he is the 2nd highest rated DE on PFF.

#2 overall, or pass rush only?

#2 overall and #2 in pass rush. 2nd in QB pressures and T-2nd in sacks.

Charles Johnson is a monster as well as Jon Beason. They just play for an unspectacular defense in Carolina so they don't get much exposure.

As for Stephenson, he played pretty well today. I don't remember many pressures at all while our downfield passing game was probably the best we've seen all season. Plenty of 5 step drops and Quinn holding onto the football. One thing I will say though is that we seemed to have far more success running to the right than we did the left.

All in all he played pretty well.

I'd say Albert is as good as gone.

yea, he missed once really bad ... total whiff


but overall he has done a very solid job

Stephenson is definitely been one of the few pleasant surprises this year. We have makings of a good, young line with Stephenson, Allen, Hudson, Asamoah, with Albert and Winston (who has done better the last few weeks). Now keeping Albert is a key. Lilja doesn't need to be starting next year if he's back though.

they will let Albert walk because of Stephenson's progression

Yeah that has happened 10 times this year. Its not because of DEN, its because the Chiefs QB's are a joke.

I doubt they let Albert walk.

I wonder what Alberts trade value is. a 2nd or a late 1st?

If they don't tag Albert but do tag Bowe, wouldn't they not be able to trade Albert due to him becoming a FA?

That's what I'm talking about.

They're not about to give Bowe a 15% raise.

I'd rather have Bowe than Albert. Stephenson has proven he can be a good LT.

Then how would they have any leverage or ability to trade Albert?

Stephenson has not proven much at all and you always need a good backup in case youre unlucky.

I thought it goes up to 20% if they're tagged a 2nd time.
but yeah, either way I doubt he gets it.

Pioli ****ed up this Carr/Bowe situation.