Will Notre Dame be the worst participant in a National Championship game?
 

Not an ND hater and not disputing their place in the game but...I feel like this is going to be a total trashing.

ND is 76th in scoring offense a 26 pts per. Outside of Miami 43 OU 7 and USC 37 ND hasn't played a scoring offense ranked higher than 57.

I certainly hope so. I don't want to witness another generation of bandwagon Domers living off this year.

I know ND's offense is nothing special, but the team has beaten the most top 25 teams or bowl eligible teams. I can't remember which was on the graphic I saw.

They are a really good team.

Pest banged your mom.

I think OU got trounced by USC one time too.

I don't even like ND and am sick of the ND bashing this year.

I'll be cheering for them...

It was a cute feel good story Notre Dame is not the calibur of the SEC champion

that's a dumb question. there have been worse. they got lucky twice, and SHOULDN"T be there if things go as they should have, but they are there. Get over it.

if that's Georgia or Alabama, who have they beaten to be "worthy"?

At least Notre Dame has a decent schedule.

Not an ND fan by any means, but they deserve to be there.

Jesus - what more does ND have to do?

They just keep beating good teams. That defense is friggen legit, kids.

Are they going to lose? Yeah, probably. But let's not act like they're going to be as bad as VaTech in the Suger Bowl, Ohio State against Florida or some of those 'default' Nebraska or OU squads that just got in there on name recognition before losing by 30.

Notre Dame started the season unranked, beat a bunch of quality opponents and earned their shot, which is a damn sight more than most teams over the last decade or two can say.

The haters can lick my taint on this one - there's not been a team in a long time that has fought uphill harder than ND has to get this far. I hope they finish the job.

The deserve it.

this. Sadly. This.
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It's not like they lost their last game 62-36 before playing in the title game.

I don't know all the participants off the top of my head, but I would think there's been worse. Their defense is legit.
I'm not much of a Notre Dame fan but I'd like to see them beat an SEC team just to shut all that SEC garbage up for a year.

Stupid thread is stupid.

I'll eat my crow if they lose.....but if ND wins.....you ****ers aren't going to hear the end of it.

Massive props to the Husker for eating a little bit of the shit they deserve for that one.

You'd be hard pressed to see a team ever be a less deserving entrant, IMO. The BCS should've died right then and there.

Or 35-7.

Hence the "sadly" in my last post.

Notre Dame fans are petty over the top
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Is it bad juju to break out my Powlus jersey? I feel like it might be.

I've actually been pretty humble so far.

They will be the worst participant in a national championship game this season.

+1, that is my biggest reason I hate them. Tons of bandwagoners that jumped on this ship for no damn good reason.

You should change your avatar to Brady Quinn again.

You have lol. Wait until they win though.

You ****ers are going to be annoying for years
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Deserving? No. However a billion teams lost infront of them and i'm pretty sure any other team would have lost just as badly. That Hurricane team was a ****ing NFL team.

But yeah I would say that Husker team was the least deserving out of any other team to appear in the BCS. I'm not sure why people are bitching about Notre Dame. If anything it should be Alabama people bitch about.

I think worst ever might be a stretch, although I wonder how their offense will match up with an SEC defense. I'm not sure Alabama's a good matchup for them.

They are probably better than they get credit for and Kelly is a good coach. But at the same time, Notre Dame almost lost to Pittsburgh... really they should've lost that game but got lucky. Pittsburgh got whipped by Youngstown State. If they'd lost that game they wouldn't even be in this discussion. Sometimes it just comes down to luck though.

Why would Alabama get bitched about? They shit all over Texas, they shit all over LSU, and they're going to shit all over Notre Dame.

I might hate SEC jerkoff fan boys more than Notre Dame. I honestly think ill be rooting f9r ND. I expect Bame to beat them by 3 TDs but u never know. Its hard for me to put my finger on how good ND is

The only thing that'll make ND in the title game worth watching is if they bring back that cartoon character Lou Holtz back.

What if Georgia beats Bama?

They're lucky because OSU is ineligible.

The only way I am watching is if Lou Holtz isn't on there so I don't have to hear his annoying lisp!

Then GA plays ND.


Probably a win for teh SEC. Murray rockets up draft boards and declares early. Chiefs take Murray over Smith.


FUUUUUUUUUUUU

Because Alabama is another 1-loss team that was damn near a 2-loss team. Do they really have a better argument than Oregon does? Hell, they only have a slightly better argument than KSU (or Florida, for that matter).

Alabama is clearly the best team in the country, IMO, but there are teams that can point to resumes that are as good as theirs.

Only Ohio State can begin to argue that they have a resume as good as NDs. Lord help us if Urban Meyer ever "De-Big 10's" that school and actually learns to use the talent available in Ohio. It was only the neanderball approach of Tressel and everyone else in the B1G that kept Ohio State from raping faces. If Meyer can get them playing a similar style to Florida, the B1G champion will be a foregone conclusion for the next decade.

In a 1 game scenario I take Saban over Reicht 100/100 times

I hate that stupid "should've lost to Pitt" argument. Crazy shit happens all the time. Alabama should've lost to LSU if that's the case.

Hell, he will rape the Big 10 for the next 10 years if he stays there.

You are right. Except LSU is approximately
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times better than Pittsburgh.

I agree, however I do feel Stanford got screwed. Don't really care either way though.

Exthcuth me?

Betht damn football coach around!

They're not the worst. But I'll be surprised if they lose by less than a TD. Not that wacky things can't happen. That's why they play the games.

The difference is, Pitt sucks, LSU does not.

That said, I think it could be close.

OSU should be a powerhouse for awhile Miller is a special player but Hoke is doing a great job at Michigan with recruiting and let's see if Pelini has turned a corner this year before we crown OSU for the next decade.

The fact anyone would even mention LSU in the same sentence as Pittsburgh is a joke. Pittsburgh lost by 14 points to a I-AA team. Don't even bring that garbage in here. Notre Dame got a break against Stanford, got lucky against Pittsburgh, and caught a break against USC.

That said, they earned it, they won the games in the end. I have no problem with that. They are either a team of destiny or they're going to be slaughtered at the altar of the SEC.

Uhh.. That is misleading when you beat some teams early on that are ranked and end up sucking..

They really played 3 ranked teams.. They still ran the board and went undefeated, I also think you should not be allowed to play in a championship game if you do not play in conference with a championship game..

I hope they utterly get destroyed..

Notre Dame is about as good as any team this season. They will put up a strong fight.

If they won, ND would be in the conversation along with 02 Ohio State and 98 Tennessee for weakest champion ever.

Speaking as a michigan fan, I think Robinson graduating is going to be the best thing for the team. They'll have Gardner (who I think should have been starting the last two seasons) for two more years once he gets granted his medical redshirt from 2010, and Shane Morris (5 star recruit for 2013...) steps in after that.

****ing Broncos fans...Jesus you guys are stupid.

Yeah, an undefeated football team that beat USC AND Oklahoma on the road and Alabama on a neutral site would go down as a weak national champion.

If this team wins the title, it absolutely deserves every accolade it gets.

The ND haters are far FAR more obnoxious than the ND fans.

This.

With all due respect to my friend Pest, if Notre Dame was named Tulane, Boise State, Utah or any number of other schools, they'd be outside the Top Ten.

I doubt they can beat a Top Ten team.

But hey, it is what it is this year.

The worst in recent memory.

God you people are stupid. Every ND fame I know has absolutely no problem pointing out the deficiencies of their teams from year to year. That makes them rational fans.

You people are incapable of giving any credit to them. That makes you irrational haters.

It's annoying, and all it does is show that your opinion is of little or no value when intelligent people discuss sports.

My God, the whole ****ing universe has gone stupid.

THEY HAVE BEAT A TOP 10 TEAM!

They went TO Norman and didn't just beat OU, they kinda kicked the shit out of them. They also beat a tough Michigan squad as well as a Stanford team that is presently a top 10 team. Not to mention beating USC with a quarterback that was probably more dangerous than Barkley. Hell, even Michigan State was only a stop here and there away from having a very good season (look at how many close games they lost to very good teams).

What is it about ND that keeps generally sane, reasonable, rational people from speaking intelligently about them?

If Tulane, Boise State or Utah ran the schedule that ND just ran, they'd absolutely have been in the National Championship game.

Eh...not all of them.

A lot of them still think Everett Golson is a good quarterback.

If ND loses, he'll be why. I just can't see why so many fans love that guy and just despise Tommy Rees.

Oh well, Gunner Kiel is coming soon, then the ND Haters will really have something to bitch about.

Maybe it's the fact that 99% of the time, this very description is associated with Notre Dame fans?

FYP.

ND Fans are no more insane when it comes to talking about their own team than anyone else. FFS, you had the Chiefs as darkhorse championship contenders. Talking Can swore for 2 years that Pioli was a god and that he couldn't hear our criticisms because of all the championship rings stuck in his ears.

I will still claim that Blaine Gabbert just needed a couple of years to learn the NFL game and that the Jags ****ed him by throwing him right into the starting lineup.

ND fans aren't any crazier than any other fans, especially not college football fans (which really brings out the crazy in people).

Notre Dame fans are Cubs fans who happened to win something 25 years ago.

FWIW, Oklahoma is ridiculously over rated as well.

So Royals fans, then?

(For the record, I will hate Mario Chalmers until the day he dies for keeping me from using "So Jayhawks fans, then?" here. Because there has never been an analogy more fitting in the history of analogies. **** you Chalmers and **** you Derek Rose for not being able to hit a goddamn free throw)

It's never going to matter. The Irish could win 3 titles in 5 years and people will still say they're overrated and they didn't deserve them.

My team is Bama; and I would LOVE to see that game.
ND vs Bama would be a great game IMO

We had been agreeing on so many things and you pull some shit like this.


Jealous? :p

Yes.

Still make stupid goddamn 'swoosh' noises every time a beaker hits a free throw?

Your mascot has buckles on his shoes. We win.

Your pg is a rapist (allegedly ..... Too soon?) and your nit banners are cute, it's a tie?


We could go on all night but its too much to bear.


You win

My point guard isn't a rapist, he just demonstrated credible tenacity in taking it to the hole, which is a hell of a lot more than we can say for those scrappy little white guys you fellas keep runnin' out there...

....okay, truce. I feel that is self deprecating enough to walk away from.

ORANGE BOWL! (Just to extend this to football) ;)

We've actually cut back on the white guards this year. Only a big white doofus in The middle.

How about the "if the replay official was competent, you lost to Stanford" argument?

The ghost of Conner Teahan is moaning sorrowfully in the corner....

....Oh wait, that's not a ghost. That's just Conner Teahan's natural complexion. And he's only standing in the corner because, well lets face it, that's all Conner Teahan ever did anyway.

He's like an albino Trajan Langdon...only given the douchy DNA of his predecessor in transparent douchery, Brady Morningstar.

That could go either way. There are arguments for and against it.

:D

I'm game: what is your argument that Stanford did not score a TD in overtime?

Your argument is going to be the complete opposite of mine. It all comes down to whether or not he was stopped and how long you let a ball carrier fight for yards. I believe he was stopped.....and I'm sure you believe that he wasn't.

It's all on what the person believes. I can at least see your side of the argument as valid......but it is what it is.

Funny story bout teahan. Ran upon him at a royals cardinals game in the outfield bar at the k. Chatted for a while, cool dude no problems, then had a few drinks and told him how much I used to rip him from the coach about his shitty ness. Gave him shit about the mu loss

He took it pretty well. Overall pretty good guy.

one thing I know for sure is, the only team I can't stand more than Notre Dame is Oklahoma.

Jesus man. Ouch.

The Nebraska team that lost 62-36 to CU in the last week of the season and still got to play in national championship game was probably one of the least deserving. Miami blew them out 34-0 in the first half of the championship game. The OU team that got blown out by KSU had no business in the championship game either.