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Ugly Duck 12-15-2012 04:44 PM

Chiefs @Raiders: Game Notes from the Dark Side
 
* Raiders HC Allen announces this game will be used to "evaluate young talent."

* Raiders commentator George Atkinson announces "This will be an audition game" for backups and rookies.

* Raiders bring cornerback Chimdi Chekwa up from the practice squad to play against Chiefs.

* Raiders announce that OT rookie Tony Bergstrom will play guard vs Kansas City, a position he has never played before.

* Rookie defensive tackle Christo Bilukidi returned to work after missing practice Wednesday, but expects to get "evaluation time" against the Chiefs.

* Raiders linebacker Rolando McClain is back from suspension, but has been relegated to playing running back on the scout team. He will be allowed to play on Special Teams against the Chiefs. When asked about it by the media in the locker room, McClain replied, "I ain't got nothing to say about anything."

* Setback for Seymour: Starting defensive tackle Richard Seymour has missed five straight games with a hamstring injury, and his quest to play Sunday against Kansas City took a hit Thursday during practice. "Well, he had a little bit of a setback today as far as the hamstring is concerned," Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. "We'll evaluate him as we finish out the week, but it kind of grabbed him a little bit, so we'll see."

* Raiders safety Michael Huff will start at cornerback.

* Raiders leading tackler, starting strong safety Tyvon Branch, missed his third straight day of practice with ankle and neck injuries.

* Coach Allen said of QB Terrell Pryor: "The biggest thing is to start getting him into the game a little bit and let him see a little game action. I’m not ready to say that he’d be a starter."

* The Oakland Raiders defense ranks dead last in the NFL in Points Allowed.

* The Oakland Raiders have the draft tiebreaker over the Kansas City Chiefs due to Strength of Schedule

* The Chiefs have won eight of their past nine games at Oakland.

Spread: Chiefs -1

After opening as a pick 'em in most sportsbooks, bettors have backed Quinn and made the Chiefs favorites coming into Sunday's contest.

SPchief 12-15-2012 04:48 PM

You still can't out suck us

BossChief 12-15-2012 04:49 PM

Both teams should be in FULL SUCK mode tomorrow in hopes of losing the game.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 04:50 PM

And we have Brady Quinn throwing to Dexter McCluster, Jon Baldwin and Jamar Newsome.

**** you.

HolyHat 12-15-2012 04:51 PM

It's amazing how the raiders always find a way to screw us whether we are good or bad.

O.city 12-15-2012 04:52 PM

Have you guys seen who we will be starting at some key spots? There's a slim to no chance of tomorrows game being successful.

KCDC 12-15-2012 04:53 PM

Sadly, Dennis Allen knows he'll be back next year and knows he needs to lose the game and the rest of the season to get Geno.

More Sadly, Crennel knows he won't be back next year and wants to win in the worst way. He does not care about the first pick. He'd prefer to have a meaningless 7th pick if he could get three more wins on his horrible HC record.

ILChief 12-15-2012 04:54 PM

great, they're tanking.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 04:57 PM

Carson Palmer is worlds better than Brady Quinn, so unless Palmer is benched or purposely throws INTs, the Chiefs will lose.

Don't forget that Jamaal had FOUR YARDS against Oakland last time.

ClevelandBronco 12-15-2012 05:01 PM

The NFL should try to get an injunction against the Chiefs and the Raiders if they're still thinking about playing this game.

cabletech94 12-15-2012 05:03 PM

don't screw this up, chefs!!!

seriously though, which suck-bags should we be "evaluating"?

Ugly Duck 12-15-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9210997)
Carson Palmer is worlds better than Brady Quinn, so unless Palmer is benched or purposely throws INTs, the Chiefs will lose.

Oh yeah.... I forgot to add this part...

Coach Allen said of QB Terrell Pryor: "The biggest thing is to start getting him into the game a little bit and let him see a little game action. I’m not ready to say that he’d be a starter."

BossChief 12-15-2012 05:12 PM

This game will be all about which team wants Geno Smith more.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 05:13 PM

Yeah, we'll see.

I doubt he plays more than a few snaps.

Unless you're up by 17. :evil:

mcaj22 12-15-2012 05:17 PM

Raiders safety Michael Huff will start at cornerback.


lol. and i thought the Chiefs were bad

Messier 12-15-2012 05:18 PM

I don't think the Raiders want a QB. Really. Raiders fans seem done with Palmer (happy with that trade now?) But I don't think the team is done with Palmer. Even with the first pick I think the Raiders go D. Smith isn't a sure fire first overall pick, and I don't think its a given that whoever has the frist pick is taking him.

Ugly Duck 12-15-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9211027)
I don't think the team is done with Palmer.

Palmer is due $13 mil in 2013.

Talk about headquarters is that Raiders will refuse to pay him that cuz they are in rebuild mode & Carson will be too old by the time GM McKenzie gets his personnel in place.

Messier 12-15-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 9211045)
Palmer is due $13 mil in 2013.

Talk about headquarters is that Raiders will refuse to pay him that cuz they are in rebuild mode & Carson will be too old by the time GM McKenzie gets his personnel in place.

Well then, his signing is as bad as drafting Russell. You gave up so much and got nothing. Good luck with the next QB.

BlackHelicopters 12-15-2012 06:15 PM

Palmer is due $13 mil in 2013.

What kind of idiot gives a washed up QB that kind of contract? Oh wait.........

Brock 12-15-2012 06:16 PM

Quit blatantly throwing games, you douchebags.

Red Beans 12-15-2012 06:18 PM

The Faid are pulling moves that only returning coaches pull when the suckage is this great. In my humble opinion, the Chiefs lack of similar moves indicates that Pioli and crew know there will be no tomorrow. They're refusing to play Stanzi and a few others because they aren't interested in providing tape for the next GM and staff. This gives me the warm fuzzies...

lewdog 12-15-2012 06:22 PM

We are without Bowe.....


the stars seem to be aligning for the Chiefs!


Go Raiders! Please **** us up!

Chiefs Pantalones 12-15-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9211126)
Quit blatantly throwing games, you douchebags.

They usually inadvertently throw games, have been for years. Quite the change for them.

Hootie 12-15-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9210997)
Carson Palmer is worlds better than Brady Quinn, so unless Palmer is benched or purposely throws INTs, the Chiefs will lose.

Don't forget that Jamaal had FOUR YARDS against Oakland last time.

you sure about that?

Palmer is grossly, grossly, grossly overrated and his stats this year simply mean NOTHING.

He is better than Quinn...but if our defense plays well he's pretty easy to shut down.

Hootie 12-15-2012 06:37 PM

if that's the case...Clark is an idiot for not firing Pioli and demanding a tank job like the Raiders.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9211171)
you sure about that?

Palmer is grossly, grossly, grossly overrated and his stats this year simply mean NOTHING.

He is better than Quinn...but if our defense plays well he's pretty easy to shut down.

Dude, last week our defense was raped by CLEVELAND.

the Talking Can 12-15-2012 06:39 PM

this is the most important game in years for the chiefs

we have a chance to accomplish something meaningful...just lose you bastards

lose with all your heart

Hootie 12-15-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9211179)
Dude, last week our defense was raped by CLEVELAND.

hey don't mistake my comment for saying I think our defense or scheme is any good

I'm just saying Palmer is really, really, really bad

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9211211)
hey don't mistake my comment for saying I think our defense or scheme is any good

I'm just saying Palmer is really, really, really bad

And he's still the best QB on the field by a large margin.

Hootie 12-15-2012 06:54 PM

I just hope these young Oakland players are hungry men...

I also think it's hilarious the Raiders gave up a 1st and 2nd for Palmer who is probably the 25th best QB in the NFL.

Hootie 12-15-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9211214)
And he's still the best QB on the field by a large margin.

I guess I just can't consider 1 shitty QB being that much better than another shitty QB...

but you may be right, I hope he plays lights out

I'M ALL IN FOR GSIII

TEX 12-15-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9211211)
hey don't mistake my comment for saying I think our defense or scheme is any good

I'm just saying Palmer is really, really, really bad

The Chiefs "d" is worse...

Pasta Little Brioni 12-15-2012 06:56 PM

Reighters is itching for 6-10

Hootie 12-15-2012 06:56 PM

I just think it's great that our rivarly is down to this! The Raiders punting?!?!? WTF! **** YOU RAIDERS! GOD DAMNIT! and vice versa

Hootie 12-15-2012 06:57 PM

The Raiders fans spamming us about how great Palmer was earlier this year was as funny as when Mecca used to do the same thing.

After that knee injury he was just pure shit...

Brock 12-15-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9211218)
The Chiefs "d" is worse...

Remember when you thought that trade was a great idea?

lewdog 12-15-2012 07:17 PM

Ole R8ers....forever immortalized in my signature for his love of Palmer.

AussieChiefsFan 12-15-2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9211259)
Ole R8ers....forever immortalized in my signature for his love of Palmer.

ROFL

Nightfyre 12-15-2012 07:25 PM

Surely if a team intentionally tanks games there has to be repercussions from the league.

ClevelandBronco 12-15-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9211287)
Surely if a team intentionally tanks games there has to be repercussions from the league.

Yeah. They get Andrew Luck.

Brock 12-15-2012 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9211294)
Yeah. They get Andrew Luck.

pretty much

Hootie 12-15-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9211294)
Yeah. They get Andrew Luck.

well that was scripted at birth...

the NFL has great story lines!!

Rain Man 12-15-2012 07:37 PM

Resistable force against movable object. this game could be all kneeldowns with no punts.

Hootie 12-15-2012 07:49 PM

that would be great

a tie

Jacksonville picks #1

Chronic 12-15-2012 07:51 PM

Time to find another team... This Chief team sucks, it's been sucking since Nixon was president

Whens the last time the Chiefs ever won anything of value?

Hell, the AFC Trophy is named after our late owner and were the only team that doesnt even have one.. hell, even the Raiders got that trophy 10 years ago

RealSNR 12-15-2012 08:02 PM

You guys had a #1 overall pick and sucked at it. It's our turn.

Go to the back of the ****ing line, douchebags

RealSNR 12-15-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 9211347)
Time to find another team... This Chief team sucks, it's been sucking since Nixon was president

Whens the last time the Chiefs ever won anything of value?

Hell, the AFC Trophy is named after our late owner and were the only team that doesnt even have one.. hell, even the Raiders got that trophy 10 years ago

That's right! We suck! Get pumped up to beat us!

Did I ever tell you that everybody from Oakland sucks cocks in prison? It's true. If you guys don't want to be so gay, why don't you prove it by beating us on Sunday?

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 08:08 PM

You hear that Raiders?

If you let the Chiefs beat you, it's a sign that you love the cock.

hometeam 12-15-2012 08:12 PM

**** this shit, lets get David Stern to fine them~

DanT 12-15-2012 08:56 PM

I'm going to get to go to this game as a surprise birthday present. It'll be the first time I've seen the Raiders play in their own home. I'm actually looking forward to seeing my beloved Chiefs. I'll probably just concentrate on how well our offensive linemen block and our linebackers and DBs do their jobs..

Ugly Duck 12-15-2012 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanT (Post 9211456)
I'm going to get to go to this game as a surprise birthday present. It'll be the first time I've seen the Raiders play in their own home. I'm actually looking forward to seeing my beloved Chiefs.

Do that paint your belly thing again!

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Luzap 12-15-2012 10:01 PM

Hey Duck,

You still driving that Chiefs red pick up truck?

Luz
inquiring minds want to know...

Tombstone RJ 12-15-2012 10:03 PM

lol... it's good to be a Broncos fan:

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Coogs 12-15-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9211342)
that would be great

a tie

Jacksonville picks #1

Key will be to have the ball last in regulation. Put Quinn in the shot gun formation. Have him turn and sprint out of the back of the endzone... outrunning the entire Faider defense who will be frantically chasing him trying to stop him... to take a safety as the clock hits 0:00 and lose 2-0!

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9211595)
Key will be to have the ball last in regulation. Put Quinn in the shot gun formation. Have him turn and sprint out of the back of the endzone... outrunning the entire Faider defense who will be frantically chasing him trying to stop him... to take a safety as the clock hits 0:00 and lose 2-0!

LMAO :LOL:

I would so love to see this happen...a tie game or something, or maybe ahead by one point.

DanT 12-15-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 9211556)

LOL! I'm not the sort to wear my team's colors, especially not on my belly in a stadium full of parolees. ;)

Jiu Jitsu Jon 12-15-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9211314)
Resistable force against movable object. this game could be all kneeldowns with no punts.

That made me laugh.

Literally. I chuckled when I read this.

Chiefs Pantalones 12-15-2012 11:56 PM

I don't think either team has a major interest in winning again this year.

Chief_For_Life58 12-16-2012 12:01 AM

our q ueefs will win this game. its what we do. were great at ****ing everything up. raiders will get geno and rape us for the next decade with him at qb

Ugly Duck 12-16-2012 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luzap (Post 9211563)
Hey Duck,

You still driving that Chiefs red pick up truck?

Luz
inquiring minds want to know...

That was a vicious rumor dispelled long ago. Can't believe you still remember that lie! I curse thee & command genital warts to infect thy butt most painfully....

Jiu Jitsu Jon 12-16-2012 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9211377)
You guys had a #1 overall pick and sucked at it. It's our turn.

Go to the back of the ****ing line, douchebags

Yeah but we had Montgomery Burns running our organization then.

Ugly Duck 12-16-2012 02:06 AM

One more snippet: “General manager Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen are intent upon taking an extensive look at every player on the 53-man roster, especially those that haven’t received much playing the first 13 games.”

Jiu Jitsu Jon 12-16-2012 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 9211932)
One more snippet: “General manager Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen are intent upon taking an extensive look at every player on the 53-man roster, especially those that haven’t received much playing the first 13 games.”

WOO-HOO! Matt Leinart and Terelle Pryor, here we go!

Ebolapox 12-16-2012 02:08 AM

yeah, I'm calling bullshit on this. I know it's a 'duh,' but it had to be said.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 12-16-2012 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h5n1 (Post 9211934)
yeah, I'm calling bullshit on this. I know it's a 'duh,' but it had to be said.

What exactly are you calling bullshit on?

bevischief 12-16-2012 02:15 AM

Suck fest 2012.

TomSlash 12-16-2012 02:37 AM

let's go Chiefs - kick some ass!

bevischief 12-16-2012 03:01 AM

We suck.

TomSlash 12-16-2012 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9211961)
We suck.

brother man, It's your attitude that sucks, we probably win tomorrow, positive thoughts and quit acting like you don't care about this team. Wear your colors cowboy, always!

saphojunkie 12-16-2012 03:12 AM

This might be the perfect time to go to a game in Oakland. You could wear all black, scream your head off cheering for the Raiders to win, and telling the chiefs how bady they suck. And it would make you the truest fan KC has ever known.

TomSlash 12-16-2012 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9211970)
This might be the perfect time to go to a game in Oakland. You could wear all black, scream your head off cheering for the Raiders to win, and telling the chiefs how bady they suck. And it would make you the truest fan KC has ever known.

you can stay in chokeland jerk

keg in kc 12-16-2012 03:16 AM

Toilet Bowl 2012 in t-minus 8:44.

Unsmooth-Moment 12-16-2012 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9211974)
Toilet Bowl 2012 in t-minus 8:44.

whoot..

Chiefspants 12-16-2012 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomSlash (Post 9211964)
brother man, It's your attitude that sucks, we probably win tomorrow, positive thoughts and quit acting like you don't care about this team. Wear your colors cowboy, always!

Do I smell a Pawnmower mult?

evolve27 12-16-2012 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomSlash (Post 9211945)
let's go Chiefs - kick some ass!

:LOL:

Ugly Duck 12-16-2012 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomSlash (Post 9211964)
It's your attitude that sucks, we probably win tomorrow, positive thoughts and quit acting like you don't care about this team.


Not quite sure whats happening here?

Quick! Read up on the past week's threads before kickoff - the upcoming Official Game Thread will be far less confusing to you then....



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Fritz88 12-16-2012 04:14 AM

Raiders are tanking this game.

Ugly Duck 12-16-2012 04:24 AM

Spread: Chiefs -1

After opening as a pick 'em in most sportsbooks, bettors have backed Quinn and made the Chiefs favorites coming into Sunday's contest.

AussieChiefsFan 12-16-2012 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 9211999)
Spread: Chiefs -1

After opening as a pick 'em in most sportsbooks, bettors have backed Quinn and made the Chiefs favorites coming into Sunday's contest.

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Ugly Duck 12-16-2012 05:44 AM

Why Kansas City Covers

The Raiders have been the worst team in the league over the last six weeks. They have gone 0-6 straight up and 0-5-1 against the spread during this stretch. They have lost five of those six games by 10 or more points, and they are giving up a ridiculous 35.8 points per game during this skid. You could certainly make the argument that Kansas City should be favored given Oakland's recent play.

That’s especially the case when you look at how well the road team has fared in this rivalry. The road squad has won 11 of the last 12 meetings, which is absolutely astounding. Dating back further, the road team is 21-5-1 against the spread in the last 27 meetings. Kansas City is 8-1 against the spread in its last 9 meetings in Oakland.

This play falls into a system that is 23-4 (85.2%) ATS since 1983. It tells us to bet on all teams where the line is +3 to -3 (KANSAS CITY) – revenging an upset loss against opponent as a favorite, terrible team, winning 25% or less of their games, in the second half of the season.

Oakland is 22-46-1 against the spread in its last 69 home games. The Raiders are 18-42-1 against the spread in their last 61 vs. a team with a losing record. Oakland is 1-11 against the spread in home games vs. very bad defensive teams who give up 27 or more points/game since 1992. Kansas City is 10-1 against the spread in road games off a road blowout loss by 14 points or more since 1992.

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