Kirk Cousins
 

329 yards, 2 TDs, only 1 INT, and a win that put the Redskins in 1st with RGIII recovering from a knee injury

get it done carl

Peyton Manning

Pitbulls

I'd rather have Thiggy

No.

me too :(

Bad joke is bad.

If we had him and he was playing like that in place of Cassel people would be fine with giving him a shot.

ur bad

Brilliant move by Shanny, he understands what a QB means in todays league.

If one is good, two is better.

Or he simply felt that Cousins is a better backup then Grossman or anyone else out there and would be a decent fill in if RGIII were ever to miss any time?

To potentially stake your season on a fourth round rookie, takes big cojones, he took a lot of flak for it.

Too many coaches would rather take the "vet" with lesser pure talent.

No, i'll stick with what i said.

he played better than any QB under pioli in 4 years...in his first start ever

People here have claimed that Cousins = Stanzi.

I don't get it.

The real lesson here is you don't have to draft a QB in the first round to have success. [/Pioli]

The fact is you dont have to but you still have to draft a good QB just odds are better in the 1st.

This.

Tru Dat

take 3 or 4 qb's shit just get one that can play.

Who needs a Q/B in today's NFL?

if we were smart enough to draft Cousins in the 2nd or 3rd, I would be fine going with him next year if he played like that for us. But we weren't, so....

you know

today made Cousins such an asset to Washington...

they may be able to widdle a late 1st out of someone...early 2nd at the worst

ya, it's interesting. I wouldn't call him a "retread" at all. Some team will trade for him and it might pay off.

I thought we should of taken him...

I was on the Tannehill, Foles and Cousins bandwagon....

Devin Wylie > K. Cousins

Not good enough for Pioli.

How would anyone even know? Poor Stanzi doesn't even get a chance. I mean whats it take?

Q to the Q.

Have. It's a pet peeve.

:)

Stanzi was an equivalent prospect coming out of college, yes.

Yeah Cousins would be on the bench in Oakland right now

Offer Washington 2nd round pick for Cousins and draft Geno Smith 1st overall...grab CB/WR in 3rd round

**** that. Trade a 2nd for cousins. Trade 1 overall to St. Louis (make them bitches take it for their 2 1st round picks) and pick a spot where to upgrade the shitfest.

Trade a 2nd for a QB who just last year was drafted in the 4th after 1 game... solid!

We should have picked him in the first place. Our fault for missing out. It's wishful thinking but I think the kid is going to be great if given the opportunity. Actually his 2nd game. In his first appearance he led the redskins on a game winning drive after coming late for rg3

His 2nd game? ****in A!!!

Why are we risking a 2nd then? Someone might outbid us... Give them the #1 overall pick!

FTR - I was one of few people who wanted to draft Cousins, but **** this stupid shit of trading a 2nd for a 4th round QB with 1 1/2 games experience.

Lol, you'd prefer a quarterback that only people on cp think is worth the number 1 with no game experience?

Seemed like a good fit for me. KC QB for KC. Better than Cassoli or The Not So Mighty Quinn and Stanzi the Myth.

Nah. I prefer the Chiefs to drop their reeruned belief in dumpster diving through other peoples trash.

Keep Gannon!

Ditto... :shrug:

Matt Cassel had back-to-back 400 yards games in NE.



No.

Len Dawson, Joe Montana, Trent Green?

I would say a 2nd year player who has played well under limited opportunity doesn't qualify as dumpster diving.

I could see it with half their career over but a second year player?

This years Matt Flynn?

People are trying to over simplify the situation. They want a drafted 1st round QB.

I want results, no matter what and figure a 1st round QB is most likely the route, but if we get the wins and rings another way I dont give a ****.

3 numbers for 3 names...

19, 43, 1983.

This. There's a thought out there that a magical 1st pick overall is going to equal the next Peyton Manning. Problem is I'm seeing more Jamarcus Russell than Manning out there.

It is amazing that the Redskins pick TWO excellent QBs in ONE draft and the Colts once again pick a Hall of Fame QB after Elway and Manning picks.

We only pick when it's shit!

Just like this magical thought that a 4th round pick is worth a 2nd round pick after 1 1/2 games and is going to lead the Chiefs to the SB.

Don't count your chickens yet. The Chiefs have yet to pick. Wouldn't want to ruin a 30 year run.

The same argument that works for you works against you.

So you'd base a players potential off a college season where it wasn't great vs. an actual NFL season. All things being equal no quarterback is guaranteed anything. I'd rather go with the consensus that these guys aren't going to be the next Manning and go after someone with equal upside and lesser cost and use the gift to upgrade the total shit team we currently have.

I'm of the belief that the Chiefs problem with quarterbacks has less to do with drafting a quarterback and more to do with not giving equal competition and refusal to not admit a mistake and move on.

Get back to me when Cousins plays a NFL season.

If Cousins had equal upside to Smith he would have been a consensus 1st round pick.

Get back to me when you understand that this isn't madden and that these overall evaluations are just educated opinions not actual scores you can plug in. The same overall educated opinions that applied to Brees, Brady, Romo, Russel Wilson, etc. and the same overall educated opinions that applied to Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf to name a few busts.

WTF does Madden have to do with any of this you ****ing moron?

Trade McCluster for a 2nd and sign every free agent for chump change, and we win the Madden Super Bowl next year!

Him?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps577558bf.png

You don't think a 1 overall is worth 2 middle round 1sts?

Tell me the differences between Cousins and Stanzi coming out of college, guys.

All this bullshit you want to talk about now is just after-the-fact pining for mediocrity.

Cousins would have been a ****ing reeruned pick at the time for us because we already had Cousins on the roster.

Don't give me any of this "Cousins has started an NFL game lolz" bullshit. He was a slapdick coming out of college and found the right situation on a team with a QB that gets injured easily. That team has a TANDEM of excellent QB coaches, and they also aren't married to John Beck/Rex Grossman/whoever else you want to play the Matt Cassel role in this comparison.

**** Cousins and everybody who wants him.

If it means missing out on Smith or Wilson (which it very likely does) then **** no.

Cousins is NOT a starting QB

I thought I explained it when I said this isn't madden where the consensus number 1's are opinions not numbers.

I A M S O R R Y I W I L L S L O W D O W N F O R Y O U.

Geno Smith will be a bust, that's my opinion. I know nothing of Wilson.

Dude, I like you but you have no idea how ****ing stupid you sound right now.

I never said consensus #1, idiot.

Kirk Cousins will be a bust, that's my opinion. I also like Wilson.

I used #1 in place of first rounder.

and I love you, however that doesn't change a thing.

Cousins doesn't have a big enough body of work to take that kind of chance on no matter what you think of Geno Smith.

the only one im mad about his Pioli not taking Russel Wilson over Donald Stephonson

that's it. because that was a no brainer clearly no matter what the knock was on the guy

Lol, he's got his college career plus he'll have some games under his belt compared to any quarterback out of the draft.

Why even trade for a QB then? We already have 2 QBs with NFL games under their belt.

Yes let's all wet our pants over Cousins who had one good game against the Cleveland ****in Browns. Excuse me if I don't jump on the bandwagon yet

Okay. Thanks. I love you too.

The problem with your scenario is that you desire a trade for picks because you are against Geno Smith. I think it's just fear more than anything, but in any case, you believe he's a terrible prospect.

However, instead of searching for KC's own home-grown QB (like in the case where people prefer Barkley to Smith or Wilson) you claim that Cousins is an appropriate solution.

When called out by 90% of people on here that Cousins has barely any experience as a 4th round pick, and therefore is inadequate, it's your distrust of Geno Smith that causes you to leap at Cousins for being "safe".

So did Matt Flynn.

Russell Wilson would be sitting on the bench behind Matt Cassel right now if Pioli drafted him.

lol but Matt Flynn wouldnt!

Well, now we're getting to the heart of the problem in this hypothetical.

Matt Cassel. Pioli loves him. Cassel is the reason why we don't have Flynn OR Russel Wilson right now.

They aren't getting it done. As I stated previously in this thread that is the problem this franchise has. Not giving equal competition and refusing to admit making a mistake.

I am not against drafting a quarterback in the first round, but I have to say it scares the shit out of me for that reason. If that ****er busts we'll be looking at that bust for at least 4 years because we could have a potential hall of famer on the bench and that's where his ass would stay.

Our former 1st round pick didn't do shit against cleveland.

I wish I knew why drafting the MOST IMPORTANT POSITION in the round that offers the BEST SELECTION OF TALENT scares the shit out of someone.

OH NO!!! Our QB prospect busted. Should have draft a Tyson Jackson. We'd be much better off!!!

question is, would you be happy with either QB right now. In terms of should they have drafted Wilson or signed Flynn all things considered if the hypothetical constant wasnt the franchise handcuffed to Cassel/Pioli's ego