Another person linking Polian's to KC
 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/2...t-comes-to-gms

Like Pro Football Weekly, now Jason La Canfora with CBS Sports is saying that the Polian's may be at the top of the Chiefs possible GM list. Polian's (Bill and Chris) are very hands on front office people and of course we know that is how Clark likes it to work (as he is very hands off).

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Where is the other thread? Would be more than happy to delete this one if I know where the other is at?

Guess it could be worse ( Pioli ) but nothing to really get excited about

Well I don't really know how to feel about the Polian's to be honest. Sure Bill has had a lot of success through the years with three different franchises. He fits the style of front office man that Clark wants, which is why he is probably at the top of the list.

With that said, how would he run the defense? Would he try to make us small and fast like his Indy teams or somewhere in between? One would assume we would move away from the 3-4 to the 4-3 correct?

Excuse my ignorance but which one are we talking about as GM? I know they both worked for Indy (ok I know Bill did as GM) but what was Chris' role? I guess I don't understand 2 guys being candidates in the same role but I'm obviously missing something.

It's called nepotism.

Bill would be the GM and Chris would be the GM-in-waiting.

Chris would be GM and Bill would be President of Peyton Manning.

I see. That's the way it was in Indy if I'm not mistaken? What would Chris' actual title be?

I do not like Polian at all. The Colts roster and scouting department went to shit when Chris was promoted to GM.

Probably Assistant GM or Executive Coffee Boy.

Not a fan...

Gotcha. Thanks.

I admit I don't know how I feel about the Polian's yet. As other said, Chris hasn't proved to be the best at his job yet but he is still young. Bill did a lot of great things but he is old.

I just know they are better than Pioli!

Everyone needs to go to the SOC thread and read Marty's post.

The next banner needs to say no to the Polians...

As I said in the SOC thread La Confora has zero credibility when has to do with anything concerning the Chiefs.

Do not want.

Wasn't there a thread about how Bill and Chris were actually worse then Pioli is currently and how the owner of the Colts had to basically fire both of them to wrestle his team back?

Polian would draft Geno Smith.

Check chiefsplanet.com

I thought they run them out of Pony town for being egotistical pricks who couldn't draft for shit??

Hog I swear I've heard of that site before?

What exactly are the Polians possessing that are being linked to KC?

Well hell. They'd fit right in.

We're already small. Fast, meh, not so much

Well hmmm this is making more and more sense. On MNF they said that Tom Moore was wanting to have a comeback at OC.

Not sure I like this idea. What did he do other than ride Peyton Manning. He never could build a defense for him.

yes and in one season the owner and new FO/coaches came in and cut 3/4s of the Polian players on the roster, essentially keeping one WR, two good DEs and maybe a young guy here or there that eventually got demoted to 2nd or 3rd string anywayby the new GM's players

Polian is just a hyped-up AJ Smith. Bad choice for the Chiefs if true.

Bill was a Chiefs scout in the late 70's, worked with Marv, Steadman and Schaaf.

Personally, I think it's bullshit and hope that Clark is more "creative", but who knows.

At least Bill Polian values the QB position.

Except Polian drafted possibly the greatest QB of all-time. And won a Super Bowl with Colts, got the Panthers close

And took the Bills to 3 super bowls

Polian was fired after the 3rd.

He didn't "take" them, Jim Kelly did.

And he was drafted 3 years before Polian arrived.

Weird idea, how about a coach with more control instead of another control hungry GM? It doesn't seem to have worked well with the last two.

Yeah, that makes total sense.

Give the head coach ALL the power and responsibility.

History has proven that always works out well.

He certainly played a huge part in building a team that went to 3 super bowls saying otherwise would be dishonest.

Please explain.

Kelly was drafted in 1983 but didn't report until 1986.

Bruce Smith was chosen in 1985.

Polian's wasn't hired as GM until 1986. His tenure only lasted until 1993 and he left the team in shambles, much like his stint in Carolina and later, Indy.

I was too young to remember much of his years in Buffalo beside the last few. I know he drafted Thurman Thomas who played a huge part in Buffalos success. Didn't he hire Levy too?

Indy went to shit when his son took over. His drafts were usually pretty solid until about 2006.

He's not a long term answer but in the short term (3-4 years) he's one of the better choices. I just hope that if he does come here the head coach is able to get Chris Polian kicked out of here when Bill's time is over.

Clark wants a long term solution. In light of that, and the bad rep that Chris has, here is how I see it, with odds:

a) Clark sticks to his plan and doesn't hire the Polians because of Chris (50%)
b) Clark likes Chris, hires them, Chris is a disaster like everyone thinks, and 8 years from now everyone is cursing this hire (35%)
c) Clark likes Chris, hires them, Chris turns the corner, and the Chiefs become a dynasty (5%)
c) Clark likes Bill, but is weary of Chris, hires them as a short term fix against his preference, and re-evaluates Chris when Bill is done. (10%)

Dane. I love you, but that's a bullshit double standard.

I may have missed something, but I didn't see where Russ said give "all" power and responsibility, but the opposite sure isn't working in KC.

If Mike McCoy leaves I wouldn't be surprised to see Tom Moore replace him. Tom Moore (and Bill Polian actually) both were guests of the Broncos in the game at Carolina. And Tom Moore spent a week at Broncos training camp this year.

At least Polian has been there done that. Pioli didnt. KC was his first gig and we've seen he's a fraud.

the way i see it, the Polian's have gotta be an upgrade over the last 4 years.

Polian also knows to win you need a franchise QB and must draft one

yeah exactly.
Peeoli has fielded a team w/o a QB for 4 years.

We all know this can't be true. Pioli signed an extension and is ready to go to work.

if True, Clark is dumber than i thought.

Q :D

Wow, that represents the worst drafting period in Chiefs history.

It's not true. No way.

I'm convinced that Scott Pioli is currently not in charge. Otherwise he would have never, never have cut Stanford Routt.

i'm thinking the same way.
he must have had all life drained from his fat ass when Cassel was benched.:D

Polian's what is linked to KC? It doesn't say.

Once again, the Polian's what is at the top of the list?

Polian's whats are very hands on?

:doh!:

:facepalm:

Because what he did in Indy, Buffalo & Carolina was total shit. :shake:

So have the Jets :D

and look where both teams sit today.

at this point, isn't it becoming rather 'circular'


reports start using other reports as sources etc


good news is that Polian didn't leave the colts completely devoid of talent as much as people thought

exactly, they'll make the playoffs with a rookie QB and an assistant coach as HC.

The difference in polian acting like a control freak is he's earned it pioli hasn't and sucks at GM to boot. Every where polians been they've won

yep

I can't believe how horrible Pioli has been. I was stoked about the hire, but man....he has been absolute dog shit.
Aside from re-signing some of Carl's players, he's done absloutely jack shit.

Berry - who is still progressing

.....I can't think of any other good thing he's done. Hudson? Houston looks like it'll pan out.
that's a shitty percentage of 'hits' in 4 god damn years.

Just about everyone did man I'm disappointed. Now it's time to try again and keep trying.

What's even worse, is that he's doing all the thinking he doesn't have anyone challenging his opinions

Bill Polian is a great GM. I'd love to have a guy that solid.

I'm not convinced that hiring him (which really means hiring his son) is a good call. Nepotism and Cronyism are things I"m tired of in KC, and once Bill rides off into the sunset, what is Chris gonna do?

i was stoked at the time as well and a friend of mine (a Steeler Fan) said the week he was signed you gotta remember the Patriot way is Tom Brady not Scott Peeoli.

and he was spot on.

they left the Colts in good shape so i'd trust them.

you punctuation police are hard nosed today

Why are people saying this? He did not leave them in good shape. Grigson had to turn over most of the roster because it was so terrible.

Grigson nailed the draft and free agency this year and that's the only reason they are competitive. Luck, Hilton, Fleener, Allen, and Ballard are all key contributors and a huge part of their success. Avery, Davis, Redding and Brazill were also picked up by Grigson.

The only impact players that Polian left behind were Bethea, Mathis, and Wayne. That's it. Freeney sucks now. The o line is terrible and the defense is a joke.

I am tending to agree with this. Of course, on the other hand, if Polian was still in Indianapolis, and Peyton weren't traded, they'd most likely still be headed to the playoffs again.

never go full reerun.

Their offensive line has been bad for a while. Manning masked a lot of problems.

It's for your own protection.

If we are talking history, how has the power mad GM worked out for us for twenty years now?

I never stated ALL, I stated MORE.

Precisely, MI.

Very true that an elite QB will help in hide issues that a team has. They have to though. You have to expect that out of them when you are paying them 18 to 19 mil a year. Same with an elite pass rusher or LT. The proportion of the dollars says that those players will have to hide/mask players or positions that are not very good.

Part of the Indy problem was Manning's salary killed their cap.

But they had to keep Manning so the Oline etc suffered.

Just imagine a Jerry Reese style GM who takes a middle of the pack payroll to the Superbowl without having to force his name to the front page while having a Bill Cowher style coach with some shared control of the front office.

This.