Stem Cells Restore Vision
 

It also turns an old, should have been done QB back into his prime.

I don't understand how people can be so opposed to stem cell research. So many amazing developments...

Never underestimate a person's ability to be dumb.

Stem cell research should be a driving force behind 21st century America.

I own umbilicalcords.com....in case you want to buy some.

because "certain" people have been convinced that stem cell research = throwing babies in a blender for the needed stem cells.

This article is about adult-to-adult stem cell transplantation

annnnnnd you didn't read the article


hi "certain" people

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Uhh, wtf do you mean uncertain one? Please enlighten me with your knowledge on the topic.

Amazing. Cool story. And I agree, stem cells have a crazy amount of potential.

Not all stem cells are fetal. Did you read the article?

Further, I believe most stem cells come from bone marrow, especially those used in leukemia treatments and the treatment of other blood disorders.

my original reply mentioned umbilical cords which are currently the only "ethical" form of collecting embryonic stem cells from the cord blood as a byproduct of child birth. I do own the domain for the record. The internets...where everyone is an expert on everything!!

you are missing the point about this thread NOT BEING ABOUT embryonic stems cells.


and the wise cracks about how 'certain' people think that all stem cell procedures are about embryonic stem cells.

of course you stepped right in and made a embryonic stell cell reference ROFL

stem cell research is evil /rich people

Meh.

Babies are a renewable resource.

if it were affordable & "ethical" you'd be able to farm your own stem cells for use.

"Playing God"

I know, I really hate giving someone a better quality of life through science.

No crutches, wheelchairs & pacemakers for you

Great news, I hope they do A LOT more of this. If the technology is there DO IT.

I believe you will be able to one day. Hopefully my investment will pay off one day, till then 9-5 baby!!

So this can be used to restore vision to someone that is losing it, but can it give vision to someone that's never had it?

EDIT: The stem cells, that is..

theoretically -- yes, but that is a much more complex set of marching orders

This

I believe our children & grand children have a great chance of living well past a 100. The last time I read up this. (its been awhile) They were having no problems with the human body excepting new organs made with your stem-cells.
If I remember right? Susan Summers had a breast removed,then went to Europe where DRs took her own stem-cells & used them to grow a new perfect copy of her original breast.

Those amazing developments have come primarily from 'non-fetus' stem cells and not 'fetus' stem cells'. All the research in the last 30yrs on stem cells have shown that 'non-fetus' stem cells have been far and away much more successful in many medical breakthroughs than 'fetus stem cells'. I wonder why ? Maybe God ? Maybe God will only allow blessing to go so far, especially when it comes to the sanctity of LIFE ya think ?

By the way the term 'fetus' in latin means 'child'. So for some of you who use this term thinking you are describing a non-human piece of flesh in a woman's tummy, you may want to find another term.

You should save your religious perspective for DC.

Oh wait....

J Dildo at it again !! ROFL

Nah, you should stop trying to censor my free speech especially when it has everything to do with OP. But wait! No that won't happen because that is what Progressives( a la Marxists) do is censor free speech and opinion especially when it's THE TRUTH !!

But God was ok with us finding vaccines to polio and smallpox? And good to know that a dead language has impact on our modern day morals.

He sure was because those vaccines didn't kill anybody in the process of discovery. Dead language or dead history of origin of the language ? You know kinda of like what is happening to our country when the masses of people are soooo dumbed down they don't even know their own country's history and will repeat it like other societies and civilizations that have gone down the toilet because they repeated the same mistakes which eventually have a negative impact on your modern day morals as you say.

It's f'ing stupid stem cell research doesn't get more funding.

But...the rich elitists want world population reduction.

Zero ****s given.

Cure blindness, cure cancer, cure everything. Either this country can step to the forefront of stem cell research and lead the world in that field and reap the profits of such amazing scientific breakthroughs, or be held back by those that think they know what God is thinking and watch another country pass us in relevance when we should have been the ones blazing the trail. There is just way too much potential good to come out of stem cell research to not explore every nuance of what it could help with.

It is the way of the future, like it or not.

Here is what you don't get. It doesn't need to get funding because the private sector is already funding what has been successfully shown so far in 'non-fetus stem cell' research. There has been over 30yrs of research and study of both 'non-fetus' and 'fetus stem cells' to this very moment and all the success and medical breakthroughs have occurred using 'non-fetus' stem cells therefore the private sector $ Wall Street will continue to fund what shows promise. IF fetus stem cells were successful that is where the $$ would go as well but they haven't been successful thus private $$ won't invest there. Sooooooooo when you hear the mantra 'we need more funding for stem cell research' what you are really hearing is the Progressive Left wanting more of our tax $$ to fund only 'fetus stem cell' research which has been proven unsuccessful for over 30yrs. Yet we still need to keep funding a failure and a moral failure at that ?

In this very rare case stem cells helped this patient save his vision. In most intrinsic eye diseases and mutations stem cells would not help restore, improve or save someones vision. The limbal stem cells main purpose is only to regenerate the top layer of the cornea called the epithelium. A healthy limbus that produces that proper amount of stem cells can completely regenerate the epithelium in as little as 14 days. Most corneal dystrophies occur in the layers under the epithelium in the stroma and endothelium.

I am not against stem cell research as there are a lot of areas where they could and are doing good but this particular case is not the strongest argument of curing widespread eye disease with the use of stem cells.

never fails

the religious right wants you to believe that they are growing babies and chopping off pieces of them or something...

simply not the case. It's ridiculous that we could save lives or make people's lives better and NOPE! God doesn't want you to do that. Bullshit.

There are two types of stem cells.

ALL currently successful stem cell research, such as the story in the OP, is coming from adult stem cells.

The type of stem cell religious folks have a problem with, embryonic stem cells, CAN come from aborted fetuses. They can also come from placental/umbilical tissue. However, embryonic stem cells, to date, have shown almost zero promise.

No shit . Only a complete idiot would oppose it.

Que the complete idiots from DC in 3..2..1..

Holy shit I didn't even look and damn there they all are... :)

Tis the devil/RWNJs.

So hypothetically speaking if it were discovered that 'human fetus stem cells' could cure the world's health ills(of which in reality they have been shown an abysmal failure so far and only the non-fetus stem cells have shown great success) you would be willing to allow farms of impregnated women(creating lives) to occur only then to terminate/murder these impregnated lives for the sole purpose of using their 'fetus stem cells' to better or save someone else's life ?

You create life only to kill life in order to save life? See the insanity of that?

Quite frankly as a society we are already there to some degree. The moment life becomes devalued and expendable to the point of being tossed away like used tissue paper, because now that new life has now become a huge inconvenience and that responsibility of a new life must be quietly 'snuffed out' and superficially ignored with all the definitional games of societal denial of when life really begins. This only ultimately destroy's that society's own moral compass to the point where 'relativity' rules in all aspects of life thus leading that society to view humans as no more than mere animals that are either productive or unproductive to the state.

Planned Parenthood is somewhat of that farm of pregnant women our society draws from for this type of research now. Granted they don't fertilize women at PP but you get my point. Now with all this being said, I have no problem using 'fetus stem cells' for research as long as these 'fetus stem cells' are from situations where death has occurred naturally by nature(miscarriage-mid to late term) or accidental where the mother/baby die from an accident or just the baby dies from that accident. I have no problem with that whatsoever. BUT to use 'fetus stem cells' from a conscious women who terminates(murders) a life out of selfish inconvenience which is 99.5% of all abortions is wrong.

The whole rape/incest and some people shouldn't be parents argument is just absolutely weak. How many women that walk through PP's doors are pregnant from rape/incest ? I bet the 'real numbers' are miniscule. Say you knew you were adopted and were a pillar of the community and became a huge success in life and later on you found out you were a result of a rape and your raped mother decided to put you up for adoption. Aren't you glad your adopted mother didn't snuff you out in shame but rather she allowed your God given rights to life through adoption? Or the incest kids, why can't they be given up for adoption if the original mother can't live with this child. There ARE better alternatives than so-called justified murder.

Yeah, I know what some of you are thinking, sure Chiefshrink it is easy talk this way until your own daughter gets raped and impregnated. No, of course it would not be easy to see my daughter go through this horrific situation. BUT I can't tell you all the severe permanent emotional damage and carnage I see in my office from women who chose the "so-called quiet easy way out, they thought". If my daughter were of adult age she would make that choice herself and I would definitely consult her, but the decision is hers to make and would support her regardless. If she were a minor then we would raise the child in love because 1/2 that child is my daughter's, my wife's and my own flesh and blood and those are the values our family lives by. No, initially it would not be easy. BUT I do know that Jesus's love conquers ALL and when you love with the eyes and heart of Jesus and do the right thing, you are able to experience a joy and peace that passes all understanding and not to mention you are able to sleep at night peacefully.;)

thank you :clap: As I have stated b4 in this thread;)

Well we don't exactly agree on all of it.

For me it has nothing to do with abortion, or religion.

I am opposed to government funding of embryonic stem cell research because its an enormous waste of money.

There is finally now hope for the chronic masturbaters of the world.

The irony is that if it got thrown to DC, it would have been moved there due to the religious rantings of someone who can't go to DC.

By chiefshrink being himself he can actually make a more meaningful contribution to this thread. First time ever.

Aren't you like calling the kettle black?

really?

and if/when stem cell research cures a health problem like paralysis or muscular dystrophy and gets MILLIONS of people off of disability and back into the workforce?

Tip for all of you....

Do not debate this topic with anyone who uses the phrase "Human fetus stem cells".

They're clearly not educated on the subject and are using rhetoric as their only weapon.

They're called embryonic stem cells, not 'human fetus stem cells'. As someone pointed out you can get these stem cells from umbilical chords. Who the **** is opposed to harvesting stem cells from an umbilical chord? Any of you fundies have a logical reason for that?

Would love for this to be a priority. The idea of helping so many people with so many different issues is beyond amazing.

The thought of not finding stem cell research, but continue to fund millions for worthless research like the millions that went to study the number of male prostitutes in Vietnam and their social settings makes my head want to explode.

as of now, SCR has resulted in the cure for certain types of cancer & diseases such as diabetes.

and ya -- this should be funded by tax $$ for a number of reasons.

There is a cure for diabetes?

I am ALL FOR funding, and even increasing funding, of adult stem cell research. It is very promising.

I am not in favor of continuing to fund embryonic stem cell research any more than I am interested in flushing taxpayer money down the toilets on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Cure? No.

However, stem cells have shown promise in this area.

Thanks. I already knew the answer but just wanted to know what the poster thought he was talking about.

certain types, yes

Or attempting to find out if the world is just a huge computer simulation ala The Matrix?

Certain types? There are only 2 types. IDDM and NIDDM. There is a treatment for both types thru medication and diet but no cure yet bud.

I was thinking maybe they could stem cell me a liver just in case mine wares out prematurely.

google is your friend

https://www.google.com/webhp?sa=N&hl...w=1181&bih=599

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/252759.php

Google could be your friend as well. As it clearly states these are possible cures, potential cures.... not an actual cure yet which what has been said already.

They could but i think it requires embryonic stems cells

It would basically end extensive organ donor waiting lists and also end people needing to take organ rejection medicine for the rest of their lives.

it's called therapeutic cloning

hey, be skeptical, but SCR is already curing folks such as the OP article outlines. I understand it isn't going to work on every medical case -- any idiot should understand this, but the same is true for a host of other medical treatments such as flu vaccines & chemotherapy.

SCR is NOT CURING diabetes so please stop saying it.

SCR shows a ton of promise with diabetes, lets not do it a disservice by spreading misinformation.

if anyone is misinformed it is you. it worked during animal trials. it's just a matter of human trials proving identical success.

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