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DaWolf 12-23-2012 10:36 AM

Schefter: the four GMs most in danger of losing their jobs are...
 
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@AdamSchefter: The four GMs in most danger of losing jobs are Arizona’s Rod Graves, Cleveland’s Tom Heckert, Jacksonville’s Gene Smith, SD's A.J. Smith.
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@AdamSchefter: Giants director of college scouting Marc Ross has emerged as a leading candidate to become the Panthers next general manager, per sources.
No Pioli?

notorious 12-23-2012 10:37 AM

The Chiefs have sucked for so long the media doesn't even know we exist.

Saccopoo 12-23-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 9234081)
No Pioli?

If Hunt isn't on Ross like stink on a monkey, Imma gunna be pissed.

Molitoth 12-23-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9234095)
If Hunt isn't on Ross like stink on a monkey, Imma gunna be pissed.

Ross is on the top of The panthers list.

*fixed

mlyonsd 12-23-2012 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9234087)
The Chiefs have sucked for so long the media doesn't even know we exist.

QFT

Imon Yourside 12-23-2012 10:44 AM

I call BS, or what better be BS.

Coogs 12-23-2012 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9234108)
Ross is on the top of Jacksonvilles list.

Why would anybody go to a place where you are going to be handed Tebow as your centerpiece to build around?

Sure-Oz 12-23-2012 10:45 AM

Im certain about 50,000 chiefs fans on twitter tweeted 'uh pioli' Schef wont respond

Imon Yourside 12-23-2012 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 9234116)
Im certain about 50,000 chiefs fans on twitter tweeted 'uh pioli' Schef wont respond

He's still a donkey and would like things to stay the way they are.

el borracho 12-23-2012 10:46 AM

A. J. Smith seemed so capable early in San Diego's rebuild. Wheeling and dealing picks and selecting some of the best QBs in the league. His commitment to Norv is inexplicable but I wonder if he has any value to a team like the Chiefs.

ROYC75 12-23-2012 10:56 AM

:shake:

Dayze 12-23-2012 10:58 AM

what would you all do if it was announced after the final game that Romeo was gone, but Pioli signed a 4 year extension?


lol. good lord. ......I can't even imagine what I would do. my wife had better hide all blunt objects, or things that could easily be thrown at a high velocity. oh, and hide my dogs too

RealSNR 12-23-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9234147)
what would you all do if it was announced after the final game that Romeo was gone, but Pioli signed a 4 year extension?


lol. good lord. ......I can't even imagine what I would do. my wife had better hide all blunt objects, or things that could easily be thrown at a high velocity. oh, and hide my dogs too

I'd walk away. Quietly and confidently.

CaliforniaChief 12-23-2012 11:00 AM

If Cowher's the new HC, I'm pretty sure Omar Khan would be the new GM.

The Bad Guy 12-23-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9234153)
I'd walk away. Quietly and confidently.

Yep I'm done as a fan if that asshole is still here

Ace Gunner 12-23-2012 11:02 AM

don't you folks want to be "like the pittsburg steelers" ??


sincerely,

Clawk Hunt

OnTheWarpath15 12-23-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9234154)
If Cowher's the new HC, I'm pretty sure Omar Khan would be the new GM.

Khan has no personnel experience - he's a cap/contract guy.

And I'm not sure I want Cowher being in charge of personnel either.

Titty Meat 12-23-2012 11:03 AM

I thought pioli was told he's fired?

Ace Gunner 12-23-2012 11:03 AM

don't you folks want to be "like the pittsburg steelers" ??


sincerely,

Clawk Hunt

CaliforniaChief 12-23-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9234162)
Khan has no personnel experience - he's a cap/contract guy.

And I'm not sure I want Cowher being in charge of personnel either.

Good point, but he's been in the front office for over 10 years now. Seems like a bright guy.

But yeah, he'd be taking orders from the chin, no doubt.

Three7s 12-23-2012 11:11 AM

What's Schefter's number? I'd love to talk to him......personally.

siberian khatru 12-23-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9234163)
I thought pioli was told he's fired?

Maybe that's why he's not on the hot seat -- he's no longer got a seat. :D

Molitoth 12-23-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9234114)
Why would anybody go to a place where you are going to be handed Tebow as your centerpiece to build around?

You are right, although I meant to say Carolina, not Jax. My bad.

BryanBusby 12-23-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 9234182)
What's Schefter's number? I'd love to talk to him......personally.

867-5309

siberian khatru 12-23-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9234196)
867-5309

Some chick named Jenny answered, said she didn't know WTF I was talking about.

Imon Yourside 12-23-2012 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9234199)
Some chick named Jenny answered, said she didn't know WTF I was talking about.

Methinks tommy tutone was being a smidge misleading when he gave that number out.

The Franchise 12-23-2012 11:24 AM

Tom Gamble......come on down!!!!!

Micjones 12-23-2012 11:25 AM

Marc Ross is my pick to take over for Pioli.

RealSNR 12-23-2012 11:26 AM

I'm watching Wrath of Khan on SyFy right now. If Clark keeps Pioli around, I'll let out a "CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK!" scream and be done with it all shortly after.

King_Chief_Fan 12-23-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9234183)
Maybe that's why he's not on the hot seat -- he's no longer got a seat. :D

you guys are gonna crap when Pioli is still here next year:eek:

lawrenceRaider 12-23-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9234095)
If Hunt isn't on Ross like stink on a The Chiefs, Imma gunna be pissed.

FYP

BigMeatballDave 12-23-2012 11:29 AM

I really do not give a shit what the hacks at ESPN and NFLN say.

They are a million miles away from KC and do not know shit.

Dayze 12-23-2012 11:31 AM

anyone see that segment on NFL gameday where a Bengals fan switched over to a Steeler fan?

Chiefs Pantalones 12-23-2012 11:32 AM

Pioli has had the worst four year stretch as GM in Chiefs history, and those numbers don't stack up well with a lot of other GMs from other franchises.

It would be a very hard sell to have him back. It would be flat out stupid actually, from a football standpoint and PR.

Chiefs Pantalones 12-23-2012 11:36 AM

LaConfora just said Polian possibly in KC maybe.

bricks 12-23-2012 11:37 AM

Hahaha

When you have a secretive, introverted owner nobody knows what the hell is going on.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-23-2012 11:38 AM

Bill Polian expected to get consideration to run Chiefs

Longtime NFL executive Bill Polian will be exploring NFL options in 2013, sources said, and numerous NFL execs believe he could be with the Chiefs next month.

As previously reported, sources said Kansas City's embattled general manager Scott Pioli was offered a contract extension prior to the season but did not sign it, and Chiefs owner Clark Hunt is under intense pressure to retool the coaching staff and front office in 2013. Hunt is a private man and sensitive to criticism, according to many who have worked for him.

The 69-year-old Polian is vastly experienced and very hands on, brings immediate credibility and has a high profile that could provide a buffer for Hunt, who does not oversee the day-to-day operations. Polian has succeeded with numerous franchises and with perhaps six GM jobs opening up, this could be a year where several former executives get back in the game.

The Polians and Hunt could be a logical fit, with Polian filling a role similar to the one played by Carl Peterson in Kansas City from 1989-2008. Polian's son Chris, also a former Colts GM, could become involved in personnel with the Chiefs as well.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/ja...nfora/21445566

OnTheWarpath15 12-23-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9234259)
LaConfora just said Polian possibly in KC maybe.

I'm counting on it being either Polian or Cowher, and being ****ing miserable about it.

God forbid this organization hire an up-and-comer.

Molitoth 12-23-2012 11:41 AM

If polian drafts geno and brings in chip Kelly I won't be upset.
Otherwise..... Meh.

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:41 AM

I wouldn't be that pissed about Polian and Geno. Whatever.

I just hope, I really hope, we can get an offensive minded head coach.

Rausch 12-23-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9234277)
I'm counting on it being either Polian or Cowher, and being ****ing miserable about it.

God forbid this organization hire an up-and-comer.

LMAO

I'd be happier than a pig on a Jewish farm...

RealSNR 12-23-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9234272)
Bill Polian expected to get consideration to run Chiefs

Longtime NFL executive Bill Polian will be exploring NFL options in 2013, sources said, and numerous NFL execs believe he could be with the Chiefs next month.

As previously reported, sources said Kansas City's embattled general manager Scott Pioli was offered a contract extension prior to the season but did not sign it, and Chiefs owner Clark Hunt is under intense pressure to retool the coaching staff and front office in 2013. Hunt is a private man and sensitive to criticism, according to many who have worked for him.

The 69-year-old Polian is vastly experienced and very hands on, brings immediate credibility and has a high profile that could provide a buffer for Hunt, who does not oversee the day-to-day operations. Polian has succeeded with numerous franchises and with perhaps six GM jobs opening up, this could be a year where several former executives get back in the game.

The Polians and Hunt could be a logical fit, with Polian filling a role similar to the one played by Carl Peterson in Kansas City from 1989-2008. Polian's son Chris, also a former Colts GM, could become involved in personnel with the Chiefs as well.

This would be the worst part about hiring Polian. He'll just be here to live out his final days as an NFL executive the way he wants all while hooking his incompetent son up with another job as soon as he decides to retire.

OnTheWarpath15 12-23-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9234286)
I wouldn't be that pissed about Polian and Geno. Whatever.

So you're basically saying you'd be OK with Pioli staying if he drafted Geno.

BigMeatballDave 12-23-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9234277)
I'm counting on it being either Polian or Cowher, and being ****ing miserable about it.

God forbid this organization hire an up-and-comer.

I'm not crazy about Polian, but at least he understands how important the QB is.

Something Pioli obviously knows nothing about.

I definitely do not want Cowher as GM.

Titty Meat 12-23-2012 11:44 AM

Wait Pioli wasn't an up and comer?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-23-2012 11:45 AM

Evan Silva‏@evansilva

Not the guy you want. At all. RT @greggrosenthal Every KC fan that likes idea of hiring Polian: Check out his last 5 drafts in Indy

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9234291)
So you're basically saying you'd be OK with Pioli staying if he drafted Geno.

Polian has a decent track record.

Pioli had no track record.

It wouldn't be my top choice, and I have always stated Peyton was the primary reason anyone was successful in Indy and he masked a lot of mediocre, at best teams...

but yeah, I guess. I don't give a shit about the GM, really. I give a shit about the GM hiring a good coach and getting a good QB.

If we landed say Kyle Shanahan or Chip Kelly and Geno Smith...don't care who the GM is...as long as it isn't Pioli.

Saccopoo 12-23-2012 11:46 AM

Great.

Polian is two years from retiring and handing the reigns of the franchise to his "legacy" - which was the reason he got shit canned in Indy.

****ing NFL nepotism is ridiculous and tragic. It's like watching the Renaissance era kingdoms of Europe **** and breed each other into complete incomptence and complacency.

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:46 AM

and by Pioli has no track record I mean...he was never THE guy...Polian has been THE guy for a long, long time.

Dayze 12-23-2012 11:46 AM

Evan Silva should look at Pioli's last couple of drafts.....JFC

BryanBusby 12-23-2012 11:46 AM

Polian can go to somewhere else.

BigMeatballDave 12-23-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9234301)
Wait Pioli wasn't an up and comer?

Yep. He's proof that it is not always the right way to go.

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:47 AM

I heard he got canned in Indy because Irsay wanted HIS franchise back. Hunt doesn't want anything to do with day to day operations so I doubt that would ever be a problem.

Again, I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying...I'm more worried about the #1 pick (Geno) and a good, young head coach than I am about Bill Polian potentially being our GM.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-23-2012 11:48 AM

Does this surprise anyone...?

BryanBusby 12-23-2012 11:48 AM

He got canned because he wanted to ride the Peyton Manning wagon into the ground. Polian is the same shit, different face.

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9234301)
Wait Pioli wasn't an up and comer?

Oooh, good point.

Still, I'd prefer an "up and comer" and a Kyle Shanahan...

but again, I won't lose sleep over Polian, Geno + head coach who likes offense.

I don't want any ****ing Jim Schwartz/Gunther or Ron Rivera bullshit.

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:50 AM

I'd rather have a GM that realizes the importance of a franchise QB over a GM who wants to find a gem so he can pat himself on the back for two decades.

Polian rode Manning to like 10 straight 12+ win seasons.

If he (or his son) wants to ride Geno for 10 straight 12+ win seasons and a Super Bowl or two...sign me up.

BigMeatballDave 12-23-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9234316)
He got canned because he wanted to ride the Peyton Manning wagon into the ground. Polian is the same shit, different face.

Yes, that is the exact same thing as Pioli trading for Cassel.

1ChiefsDan 12-23-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9234310)
Polian can go to somewhere else.

My thought as well.

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:52 AM

I will say...

The Chiefs will be a hot commodity for a GM if we can Pioli.

The #1 pick will be very enticing I'd think.

OnTheWarpath15 12-23-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9234305)
Evan Silva‏@evansilva

Not the guy you want. At all. RT @greggrosenthal Every KC fan that likes idea of hiring Polian: Check out his last 5 drafts in Indy

Not a single difference maker. A couple of decent players, (Garcon, Angerer, Session) but nothing I'm jealous over.


2011
Anthony Castonzo T Boston College
Benjamin Ijalana T Villanova
Drake Nevis DT Louisiana State
Delone Carter RB Syracuse
Chris Rucker DB Michigan State

2010
Jerry Hughes LB Texas Christian
Patrick Angerer LB Iowa
Kevin Thomas DB USC
Jacques McClendon G Tennessee
Brody Eldridge TE Oklahoma
Ricardo Mathews DT Cincinnati
Kavell Conner LB Clemson
Ray Fisher DB Indiana

2009
Donald Brown RB Connecticut
Fili Moala DT USC
Jerraud Powers DB Auburn
Austin Collie WR Brigham Young
Terrance Taylor DT Michigan
Curtis Painter QB Purdue
Pat McAfee P West Virginia
Jaimie Thomas T Maryland

2008
Mike Pollak C Arizona State
Philip Wheeler LB Georgia Tech
Jacob Tamme TE Kentucky
Marcus Howard LB Georgia
Tom Santi TE Virginia
Steven Justice C Wake Forest
Mike Hart RB Michigan
Pierre Garcon WR Mount Union
Jamey Richard C Buffalo

2007
Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio State
Tony Ugoh G Arkansas
Daymeion Hughes DB California
Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio State
Brannon Condren DB Troy
Clint Session LB Pittsburgh
Roy Hall WR Ohio State
Michael Coe DB Alabama State
Keyunta Dawson DE Texas Tech

2006
Joseph Addai RB Louisiana State
Tim Jennings DB Georgia
Freddie Keiaho LB San Diego State
Michael Toudouze G Texas Christian
Charlie Johnson T Oklahoma State
Antoine Bethea DB Howard
T.J. Rushing

BryanBusby 12-23-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9234326)
Yes, that is the exact same thing as Pioli trading for Cassel.

The ultimate thing was Pioli absolutely refused to move on from Cassel. Polian wasn't going to move on from Manning, even with Andrew Luck right in his lap.

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:54 AM

the funny thing is...

8 years ago (or whatever) Tom Brady was SOOOOOOOOOO much better than Peyton Manning because Peyton Manning was surrounded by all of these GREAT weapons and his front office showered him with great pick after great pick after great pick.

This is no exaggeration. People like Mecca used to spew this stuff all of the time during my yearly Peyton Manning/Tom Brady debates. Seriously. It was..."Tom Brady has no weapons but Peyton Manning has Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne!"

Every. Single. Year.

Now?

Now we are rumored to get Polian and Polian was shitty and stumbled into Peyton and Peyton masked all of his poor front office decisions.

Interesting fan base we have.

CaliforniaChief 12-23-2012 11:56 AM

Until Hunt becomes more hands-on or someone else who is more hands-on owns the team, we're probably going to stay in the mode of the Dominatrix GM who lords over cities, complexes, and candy wrappers.

Unfortunately that's not changing anytime soon.

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:57 AM

OTWP

go pick any team and post their last 5 drafts

someday you guys are going to realize drafting is a 20% game

AND

Indy always picked within the last 5 picks of all those drafts

Just saying.

I hate to look as if I'm defending or advocating Polian, I'm just saying...it wouldn't piss me off. I'd be more interested in his head coaching choice and making sure we land Geno.

bricks 12-23-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9234349)
Until Hunt becomes more hands-on or someone else who is more hands-on owns the team, we're probably going to stay in the mode of the Dominatrix GM who lords over cities, complexes, and candy wrappers.

Unfortunately that's not changing anytime soon.

This is why I hate the Hunt family.

BryanBusby 12-23-2012 11:59 AM

My main problem with Polian is his unconditional love for the Cover 2.

Hootie 12-23-2012 11:59 AM

everything 3rd round on is just a total crapshoot

which is why I laugh every year when people get up in arms about a 5th round pick

there are hits all over the place...3rd round, 6th round...UDFA

but go look, in depth, over the last 10 drafts 3rd-7th round and do some percentages in your head...

3rd round you have about a 20% chance of landing a quality starter

maybe the fact I'm so used to crunching the odds in my head playing poker is why I've always found the whole "omg we traded a future 7th for Jake O'Connell" so funny

the fact he stayed on our roster so long makes him a hell of a steal sadly enough, lol

milkman 12-23-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9234344)
the funny thing is...

8 years ago (or whatever) Tom Brady was SOOOOOOOOOO much better than Peyton Manning because Peyton Manning was surrounded by all of these GREAT weapons and his front office showered him with great pick after great pick after great pick.

This is no exaggeration. People like Mecca used to spew this stuff all of the time during my yearly Peyton Manning/Tom Brady debates. Seriously. It was..."Tom Brady has no weapons but Peyton Manning has Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne!"

Every. Single. Year.

Now?

Now we are rumored to get Polian and Polian was shitty and stumbled into Peyton and Peyton masked all of his poor front office decisions.

Interesting fan base we have.

Years ago, Pioli was surrounding Manning with more weapons.

When his son became more involved in the process, that was no longer the case.

htismaqe 12-23-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9234291)
So you're basically saying you'd be OK with Pioli staying if he drafted Geno.

I want Geno first and foremost.

Hootie 12-23-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9234360)
My main problem with Polian is his unconditional love for the Cover 2.

You think that's Polian?

He may have had an unconditional love for the Dungy staff and Dungy tree...and if he brings one of those idiots to KC then I will be ****ing pissed because that is an outdated scheme that doesn't work anymore.

Hammock Parties 12-23-2012 12:00 PM

Pioli has already lost his.

htismaqe 12-23-2012 12:01 PM

Schefter didn't mention Pioli because Pioli is already fired.

htismaqe 12-23-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9234369)
Pioli has already lost his.

jinx! :)

Hootie 12-23-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9234364)
Years ago, Pioli was surrounding Manning with more weapons.

When his son became more involved in the process, that was no longer the case.

Look, I've been on record with my Eddie Kennison/Marvin Harrison theory many, many, many times.

Marvin Harrison was no better of a talent than Eddie Kennison; he just got drafted 1 pick after Kennison and then stumbled into Manning a year later.

Manning has never, ever, ever had a guy like he does this year with Demaryius Thomas.

Truth be told; A franchise QB, an all-time great like Manning...makes a good receiver a great receiver, a really good receiver a hall of fame receiver.

Just like Tom Brady did with guys like David Givens.

Manning turned average TE's like Jacob Tamme and Bryan Fletcher into guys who made plays on a consistent basis at times.

Now he's making Knowshon look like a real RB.

You think that's coincidence?

Come on.

RealSNR 12-23-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9234307)
Great.

Polian is two years from retiring and handing the reigns of the franchise to his "legacy" - which was the reason he got shit canned in Indy.

****ing NFL nepotism is ridiculous and tragic. It's like watching the Renaissance era kingdoms of Europe **** and breed each other into complete incomptence and complacency.

Yeah, but Polian is the Habsburg line of inbred monarchs. If you're going to **** and breed incompetency, you may as well go big.

Titty Meat 12-23-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9234321)
Oooh, good point.

Still, I'd prefer an "up and comer" and a Kyle Shanahan...

but again, I won't lose sleep over Polian, Geno + head coach who likes offense.

I don't want any ****ing Jim Schwartz/Gunther or Ron Rivera bullshit.

I still like Marc Ross the most Tom Gamble would be my 2nd choice. I wouldn't mind Polian as long as his son doesn't come here.

Chief Roundup 12-23-2012 12:04 PM

Marc Ross drafts with the Giants. Not a whole lot of greatness here either.
2012
David Wilson
Rueben Randle
Jayron Hosley
Adrien Robinson
Brandon Mosley
Matt McCants
Markus Kuhn

2011
Prince Amukamara
Marvin Austin
Jerrel Jernigan
James Brewer
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jacquian Williams
Da'Rel Scott

2010
Jason Pierre-Paul
Linval Joseph
Phillip Dillard
Mitch Petrus
Adrian Tracy
Matt Dodge

2009
Hakeem Nicks
Clint Sintim
William Beatty
Ramses Barden
Travis Beckum
Andre Brown
Rhett Bomar
DeAndre Wright
Stoney Woodson

2008
Kenny Phillips
Terrell Thomas
Mario Manningham
Bryan Kehl
Jonathan Goff
Andre Woodson
Robert Henderson

2007
Aaron Ross
Steve Smith
Jay Alford
Zak DeOssie
Kevin Boss
Adam Koets
Michael Johnson
Ahmad Bradshaw

RealSNR 12-23-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9234381)
Look, I've been on record with my Eddie Kennison/Marvin Harrison theory many, many, many times.

Marvin Harrison was no better of a talent than Eddie Kennison; he just got drafted 1 pick after Kennison and then stumbled into Manning a year later.

Manning has never, ever, ever had a guy like he does this year with Demaryius Thomas.

Truth be told; A franchise QB, an all-time great like Manning...makes a good receiver a great receiver, a really good receiver a hall of fame receiver.

Just like Tom Brady did with guys like David Givens.

Manning turned average TE's like Jacob Tamme and Bryan Fletcher into guys who made plays on a consistent basis at times.

Now he's making Knowshon look like a real RB.

You think that's coincidence?

Come on.

Couldn't quite manage to make Joseph Addai or Donald Brown real RBs.

Hootie 12-23-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9234398)
Couldn't quite manage to make Joseph Addai or Donald Brown real RBs.

Both of those guys were more than passable in the Manning system.


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