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BradBigglestein 12-30-2012 10:01 PM

One of our local insiders says KC interested in Reid
 
Hello,

I don't post here much, but I'm an Eagles fan. I share the misery of a terrible 2012 season with all of you. Anyway, one of our local insiders(that is very good friends with Andy Reid) reported that while everyone thinks San Diego is the leading choice for Reid, it probably won't happen. He said keep an eye out for the Chiefs. They like Andy Reid and are interested in him as the coach.

I was curious to see what KC fans would think of getting Reid. If you have any questions about Reid, fire away.

take care

KC kid 12-30-2012 10:02 PM

Reid wouldn't put up with Pioli's bullshit

milkman 12-30-2012 10:02 PM

No.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-30-2012 10:03 PM

No thanks. More of the same non-winning.

MMXcalibur 12-30-2012 10:03 PM

SOMEBODY SHIT MY PANTS

lewdog 12-30-2012 10:03 PM

Do not want.

SAUTO 12-30-2012 10:04 PM

No. He won't commit to the run enough for my liking. I know this is a pass first league but I'm sick of being skewed all the way one way
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jd1020 12-30-2012 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradBigglestein (Post 9256083)
Hello,

I don't post here much, but I'm an Eagles fan. I share the misery of a terrible 2012 season with all of you. Anyway, one of our local insiders(that is very good friends with Andy Reid) reported that while everyone thinks San Diego is the leading choice for Reid, it probably won't happen. He said keep an eye out for the Chiefs. They like Andy Reid and are interested in him as the coach.

I was curious to see what KC fans would think of getting Reid. If you have any questions about Reid, fire away.

take care

Using plural words like "they."

The Bad Guy 12-30-2012 10:05 PM

Getting Andy Reid here with Pioli would be about the best you can expect.

Reid is a good football coach that just burned out in Philly.

Chiefs could do much worse.

Bowser 12-30-2012 10:05 PM

Not interested.

But say it does happen. That would likely mean Pioli is gone, as I can't imagine those two could have a working relationship. It would also mean that we may likely draft Matt Barkley to run Reid's WCO. Do not want.

KC kid 12-30-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9256103)
No. He won't commit to the run enough for my liking. I know this is a pass first league but I'm suck of being skewed all the way one way
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You do realize this is a passing league, right? Chiefs just ran for 350+ yards and lost.

WildTurkey 12-30-2012 10:06 PM

If we plan on drafting Geno Smith I think Reid would be a good choice.. Much better than some of the other options like McDaniels or any "tree" member

Bugeater 12-30-2012 10:06 PM

Well if BradBiggelstien says it, it's good enough for me!

Hoover 12-30-2012 10:06 PM

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout
Source inside #Chiefs says they've been told that Romeo Crennel has been informed he won't be back with team in 2013.

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 10:06 PM

I could easily see this if there's any truth to the polian rumors. Not a fan of it. But at this point, it would make me ecstatic because its not pioli and mcdaniels.

Mother****erJones 12-30-2012 10:06 PM

We could do alot worse. I want McCoy, Jay Gruden or Bruce Arians

Bowser 12-30-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9256118)
Well if BradBiggelstien says it, it's good enough for me!

BIGGLESTEEEEEEENNNNNNN

DaKCMan AP 12-30-2012 10:07 PM

Reid > McDaniels, Mangini, Sparano or anyone else from the Parcells/Belichick tree

BradBigglestein 12-30-2012 10:07 PM

By the way, if Andy Reid goes to the Chiefs, the same report said that Reid would likely bring Brad Childress with him as the offensive coordinator wherever he goes, and Marty Mornhinweg isn't going with him. Also Reid reached out with Juan Castillo to return to his staff. It was unclear as to return to offensive line or defense.

SAUTO 12-30-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 9256115)
You do realize this is a passing league, right? Chiefs just ran for 350+ yards and lost.

Did you even read my ****ing post?
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Shox 12-30-2012 10:07 PM

NO NO NO NO.

DaFace 12-30-2012 10:07 PM

I'd rather go with "up and coming" than "past his prime," so he wouldn't be at the top of my list. That said, he wouldn't be at the bottom of the list either.

The Bad Guy 12-30-2012 10:08 PM

Can you link to this report?

milkman 12-30-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 9256115)
You do realize this is a passing league, right? Chiefs just ran for 350+ yards and lost.

True, but the teams that can run the ball effectively in the winter months take some of the pressure off the QB.

BradBigglestein 12-30-2012 10:09 PM

It was a TV report on our local FOX broadcast. I'll post a link if I get it.

SAUTO 12-30-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9256143)
True, but the teams that can run the ball effectively in the winter months take some of the pressure off the QB.

This. You have to actually TRY to run the ball, it loosens up the d.
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Ming the Merciless 12-30-2012 10:11 PM

**** Reid...

Honestly i am not down for that as a direction

tredadda 12-30-2012 10:11 PM

Personally I want us to go with a coordinator or college coach who has not ever had a NFL HC assignment. If we don't do that and go the retread route then I would take Reid.

Ming the Merciless 12-30-2012 10:13 PM

isnt he about a .500 coach?

WildTurkey 12-30-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9256193)
isnt he about a .500 coach?

129-88-1 regular season

10-9 postseason

1 sb appearance

BossChief 12-30-2012 10:17 PM

He seems like he needs a year off after the season and his family pressures. ...but if he wants to coach we can do a lot worse. He knows quarterbacks and is a great teacher.

My concerns with him would be:

Ability to hire a good enough staff
Reluctance to run the ball when it's needed to balance a gameplan
Age
Would he want to change the defense to a 4-3

Positives
He would be a proponent to resigning Albert and Bowe long term and he would want a quarterback with that top pick and he did wonders with McNabb.

I'd be perfectly fine with the hiring of Andy Reid...but I prefer Arians or Cowher if they are interested.

|Zach| 12-30-2012 10:18 PM

I like Reid a lot and think he would be a good fit in KC.

Having said that I understand people that would be critical of the move.

KCDC 12-30-2012 10:18 PM

We could do worse than Reid, but we could do better. A fresh start is what he needs. John Fox was fired by the pitiful Panthers and now, with Denver, everyone thinks he's a good coach again.

milkman 12-30-2012 10:19 PM

I think much of what Reid accomplished in his years in Philly is due in large part to Jim Jhnson.

His Eagles teams have been nowhere the same since Jim Johnson died.

BossChief 12-30-2012 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 9256218)
129-88-1 regular season

10-9 postseason

1 sb appearance

And a bunch of conference championship games.

The biggest question with Reid would be his DC hire...if he could get a premier guy into that role, he would be a really nice hiring.

Question....have any of his teams ever an a 3-4 defense?

Ming the Merciless 12-30-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 9256218)
129-88-1 regular season

10-9 postseason

1 sb appearance

Ahh

I guess since 2004 he is .500 or so....(66-60-1)


1999-2004 I guess he mustve been epic

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCDC (Post 9256233)
We could do worse than Reid, but we could do better. A fresh start is what he needs. John Fox was fired by the pitiful Panthers and now, with Denver, everyone thinks he's a good coach again.

I think Jim Johnson has a lot more to do with Andy Reid's success than Andy Reid. He hasnt been the same coach since he lost him.

WildTurkey 12-30-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9256239)
And a bunch of conference championship games.

The biggest question with Reid would be his DC hire...if he could get a premier guy into that role, he would be a really nice hiring.

Question....have any of his teams ever an a 3-4 defense?

The defense was my concern as well. He's always seemed hands off with the defense here so it's a possibility he could bring a coordinator that knows the 3-4

Demonpenz 12-30-2012 10:21 PM

Reid was good when his old fart Defensive CORD was alive

BossChief 12-30-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9256238)
I think much of what Reid accomplished in his years in Philly is due in large part to Jim Jhnson.

His Eagles teams have been nowhere the same since Jim Johnson died.

For any team to have a chance at consistently competing, they need a premier dc and a franchise QB.

I wouldn't exactly hold that against Reid, but I would hold some of his dc hires after JJ against him, that's for sure.

Mother****erJones 12-30-2012 10:21 PM

Remember the stat that no HC has won a SB with 2 different teams. Reid came close. He knows how to coach and coach in the post season. Unlike Marty Schottenheimer

The Bad Guy 12-30-2012 10:22 PM

If Reid did come here, he'd need to hire someone who could run the 3-4.

tredadda 12-30-2012 10:22 PM

So if he were to bring in a good DC how many people would be against hiring Reid?

dirk digler 12-30-2012 10:23 PM

no thanks. He needs to take a couple of years off to get his family and life straightened out.

BossChief 12-30-2012 10:24 PM

I'd also like to point out that I have compared Geno Smith to Donovan McNabb quite a bit and think they are similar players. Reid would be. Good fit for a coach like Andy Reid IMO.

If he could bring a good dc with him, I would be on board.

htismaqe 12-30-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9256261)
For any team to have a chance at consistently competing, they need a premier dc and a franchise QB.

I wouldn't exactly hold that against Reid, but I would hold some of his dc hires after JJ against him, that's for sure.

Well here he wouldn't be hiring the DC, Pioli would be.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-30-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9256271)
If Reid did come here, he'd need to hire someone who could run the 3-4.

Now is the time if you wanna move to a 4-3. Dorsey a FA and No way Jackson is coming back with that 17m cap number

#1 Bronco's Fan 12-30-2012 10:25 PM

Reid has had years and years of family problems, he has been at the same job for many years. Too me I really think he just needs a year off like Shanahan had and regenerate his batteries. I do no think I would hire him this year... he looks burned out.

milkman 12-30-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9256273)
So if he were to bring in a good DC how many people would be against hiring Reid?

I'd still question his ability to find balance on offense.

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9256273)
So if he were to bring in a good DC how many people would be against hiring Reid?

I don't know. I don't think he is married to a defense.

The question is if morninweig can win with a true qb. Morninweigs a good coach but hes not an oc hire that at all excites me.

mcaj22 12-30-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9256289)
Well here he wouldn't be hiring the DC, Pioli would be.

yes and Scott Pioli's track record of DCs is just as bad as the OCs and his drafts.

lol

actually Pioli's DC hires are 10x worse than Reids

BossChief 12-30-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9256282)
no thanks. He needs to take a couple of years off to get his family and life straightened out.

He has said a few times that he wants to coach and has plenty of energy to do so. He probably just needs a change of scenery.

WildTurkey 12-30-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9256286)
I'd also like to point out that I have compared Geno Smith to Donovan McNabb quite a bit and think they are similar players. Reid would be. Good fit for a coach like Andy Reid IMO.

If he could bring a good dc with him, I would be on board.

Agreed I think Reid could do wonders with Geno.

The Bad Guy 12-30-2012 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9256294)
Now is the time if you wanna move to a 4-3. Dorsey a FA and No way Jackson is coming back with that 17m cap number

3-4 DE's are a dime a dozen.

You go to a 4-3, you need to find 2 outside backers. Finding 3-4 run stuffing DE's is easier than finding 2 linebackers.

dirk digler 12-30-2012 10:27 PM

The good thing about hiring Reid would be at least Charles would extend his career a few more years since he will barely touch the ball

BossChief 12-30-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9256299)
yes and Scott Pioli's track record of DCs is just as bad as the OCs and his drafts.

lol

actually Pioli's DC hires are 10x worse than Reids

His only dc hire was Romeo and in that role, Romeo isn't bad.

I'd love to get Reid and a DC that would bring an attacking 3-4 to the table.

bowener 12-30-2012 10:27 PM

Reid as OC?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-30-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9256307)
The good thing about hiring Reid would be at least Charles would extend his career a few more years since he will barely touch the ball

ROFL

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9256294)
Now is the time if you wanna move to a 4-3. Dorsey a FA and No way Jackson is coming back with that 17m cap number

It isn't. The chiefs have two elite pass rushers that belong in a 3-4. Build on your strengths. And I think Poe has a nice upside. If you have those three guys, that's a good foundation. Plus don't rule out Dorsey or bailey being suitable stop gaps for 1-gap

tredadda 12-30-2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9256300)
He has said a few times that he wants to coach and has plenty of energy to do so. He probably just needs a change of scenery.

Agreed. Philly fans are famously brutal. A change would probably do him wonders.

mcaj22 12-30-2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9256308)
His only dc hire was Romeo and in that role, Romeo isn't bad.

I'd love to get Reid and a DC that would bring an attacking 3-4 to the table.


you apparently forget Clancy Pendergast

then Romeo

then demoted Romeo to Gary Gibbs


3 DCs in 4 years

just like the 4 OCs in 4 years.

It's awful GMing/hiring/demoting anyway you look at it. Bunch of Pats tree nonsense and there is no valid argument that any of it is good for business

dirk digler 12-30-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9256300)
He has said a few times that he wants to coach and has plenty of energy to do so. He probably just needs a change of scenery.

I don't care what he says you can tell how unprepared his team was this year that he needs some time off.

jaa1025 12-30-2012 10:32 PM

Andy Reid is one of the best coaches in the NFL and we'd be damn lucky to have him. He'd be great for geno smith.

TribalElder 12-30-2012 10:32 PM

Please No. Reid is fawkin fail

SAUTO 12-30-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9256296)
I'd still question his ability to find balance on offense.

This. I'm not liking the thought of him here
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Mother****erJones 12-30-2012 10:37 PM

We need an attacking 34 D. I hate this zone soft coverage shit. We had Carr who was a good press corner. Should of kept him along with flowers and attack more and we would be ok

aturnis 12-30-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9256297)
I don't know. I don't think he is married to a defense.

The question is if morninweig can win with a true qb. Morninweigs a good coach but hes not an oc hire that at all excites me.

The OP poster already clarified in a second post that Mornhinweg would now come with him...

TRR 12-30-2012 10:38 PM

While I don't mind Reid, I feel the game may have passed him up. Eagles fans have been so tired of his constant boring OL/DL first round picks, and his inability to change offensive or defensive philosophies.

Add in his off the field family issues, and its a very risky hire.
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aturnis 12-30-2012 10:39 PM

**** Reid, Cowherd and Ariens. I'd take Gruden maybe.

kcbubb 12-30-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9256223)
He seems like he needs a year off after the season and his family pressures. ...but if he wants to coach we can do a lot worse. He knows quarterbacks and is a great teacher.

My concerns with him would be:

Ability to hire a good enough staff
Reluctance to run the ball when it's needed to balance a gameplan
Age
Would he want to change the defense to a 4-3

Positives
He would be a proponent to resigning Albert and Bowe long term and he would want a quarterback with that top pick and he did wonders with McNabb.

I'd be perfectly fine with the hiring of Andy Reid...but I prefer Arians or Cowher if they are interested.

This. Reid needs a year off because of the death of his son. I don't know if he will ever be the same coach. I would rather have Arians or Jay Gruden, but especially Cowher. I would even consider Cowher for HC/GM.

Demonpenz 12-30-2012 10:42 PM

Reid will be heading down to bazoka's to give mustache rides

MahiMike 12-30-2012 10:42 PM

I'd be ok w/Andy Reid. The guy was great most of his career w/the Eagles. No coach can last more than 10 years in the NFL w/the same team. I saw the same thing here with Coughlin. Then he leaves, gets a fresh start and 2 Super bowls.

Plus I'd definitely put that guy in the 'innovative' offensive minded side. He's not afraid to try new stuff.

jspchief 12-30-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9256109)
Getting Andy Reid here with Pioli would be about the best you can expect.

Reid is a good football coach that just burned out in Philly.

Chiefs could do much worse.

This is how I feel. Reid probably wouldn't top my list, but I think he's a good coach that can undo a lot of the damage that Haley and Roleo did.

I think Reid will build another winner.

In58men 12-30-2012 10:43 PM

Andy Reid looks like Lorax

AussieChiefsFan 12-30-2012 10:43 PM

Not too bad along with Geno.

BigRedChief 12-30-2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9256405)
While I don't mind Reid, I feel the game may have passed him up. Eagles fans have been so tired of his constant boring OL/DL first round picks, and his inability to change offensive or defensive philosophies.

Add in his off the field family issues, and its a very risky hire.
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Wonder what Pioli found wrong with Jack Del Rio?

Michael Schottey ‏<s>@</s>Schottey Scott Pioli interviewed Jack Del Rio for the Kansas City job before this season... <s>#</s>JustSayin
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DeezNutz 12-30-2012 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9256472)
Wonder what Pioli found wrong with Jack Del Rio?

Michael Schottey ‏<s>@</s>Schottey Scott Pioli interviewed Jack Del Rio for the Kansas City job before this season... <s>#</s>JustSayin
Retweeted by SaveOurChiefs

Perhaps Del Rio has a nutsack, and Pioli is threatened by this.

BradBigglestein 12-30-2012 10:49 PM

Reid did look burned out, but Andy Reid needs to coach to stay busy. It's his lifeblood. I think Andy Reid is overrated as a coach, but I still think he is a good coach. Having watched him all 14 years here, Jim Johnson definitely helped him a lot. That said, McNabb was a franchise QB at one point, and when he went downhill, so did the offense. Vick had a great stretch in 2010, but after that was poor. A ton of turnovers and poor drafting.

If there is one thing I hated most about the Andy Reid era in Philadelphia, it was the arrogance that came along with it. The entire organization from top to bottom were a bunch of "we know more than you so shut up" type of people. You will see something that is so obvious when watching the games and they will look you in the eye and tell you differently. Like linebackers aren't that important, or their effort "was good if you look at the numbers" even when everyone watching the game could tell it was a bad effort.

That said, Joe Banner had a lot to do with the arrogance and he is gone.

If you do get Andy Reid, and you guys are big press conference people, be prepared to start hating them. He's the worst press conference coach ever, and when his players adapt his attitude, you will get no emotion from anyone after games.

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9256472)
Wonder what Pioli found wrong with Jack Del Rio?

Michael Schottey ‏<s>@</s>Schottey Scott Pioli interviewed Jack Del Rio for the Kansas City job before this season... <s>#</s>JustSayin
Retweeted by SaveOurChiefs

Probably vice versa.

DTHOF 12-30-2012 10:57 PM

I think a hard core disciplinarian is needs for this young group, someone who will not allow them to quit like they did this year in so many games


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