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Hammock Parties 01-03-2013 06:14 PM

Vermeil told Reid to come to KC.
 
Thanks, Dick. :D

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/03...-take-the.html

Vermeil advises Reid to take the Chiefs job


Quote:

Former Chiefs head coach Dick Vermeil gave Andy Reid one word of advice about taking the job in Kansas City.

“Go,” Vermeil said.


Vermeil, who lives in Philadelphia, speaks to Reid on a regular basis, including earlier this week before a contingent of Chiefs executives, led by chairman Clark Hunt, interviewed Reid for nine hours on Wednesday.

Negotiations were continuing on Thursday, and as of late in the afternoon, Vermeil had not heard if Reid and the Chiefs closed the deal.

Vermeil said there were several factors in why Reid was interested in the Chiefs, even when Arizona and San Diego had hoped to interview him.

“He’s coached at the University of Missouri,” Vermeil said of Reid’s three-year stint as on offensive line coach for the Tigers during 1989-91, “he’s been in middle America before and knows what the people are like. He knows how I feel about it. He’s been in that stadium. He kicked my rear … when we were ahead 18-0 … and he knows how the fans are there, and how that Arrowhead Stadium is when it’s full.

“And he knows the great respect and admiration people in the NFL have for the Hunt family, so why not go? There are no negatives.”

One negative is the shaky state of the quarterback position in Kansas City.

“You can’t have everything,” Vermeil said. “I’d rather have a great owner and no quarterback than a quarterback and not a great owner. They have a couple of quarterbacks (Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn) who have played well before, and maybe they’ll play well again. Sometimes schemes fit quarterbacks better than other schemes.

“This year took a guy out of college, for criminy sakes, (Nick Foles), a third-round draft choice, and he plays pretty darn well.”

Vermeil is confident that Reid, 54, can turn the Chiefs around.

“He’s been doing it for 14 years,” Vermeil said. “He finished on a downswing, but a lot of those things … the injury factor were part of the problem. The mistakes he’s made, if he has made any, he’ll know how to correct them. And he’s always had a great offensive football team, and when he’s had a real good defensive coordinator, he’s always had a good defensive team.

“When you’ve gone to five NFC championship games, you’ve done a hell of a job.”

Reid would be the third former Eagles coach or player to coach the Chiefs, following Vermeil (2001-05) and Herm Edwards (2006-08). Vermeil spent 1976-82 with the Eagles and took them to the Super Bowl following the 1980 season.

“You’ve got the best one,” Vermeil said of Reid. “He’s a great person and a great coach. I think he’ll fit in perfectly within that environment, within the community, and he’ll fit in the organization. I just don’t think you can do any better.”

Vermeil said Reid did not ask him about how he thought he could co-exist with Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli.
:D

Scorp 01-03-2013 06:16 PM

Awwww Dick, I think I am gonna cry!

Mother****erJones 01-03-2013 06:17 PM

Dick!! Cheers

L.A. Chieffan 01-03-2013 06:18 PM

See, Vermeil thinks Cassell is a good qb too.

FAX 01-03-2013 06:18 PM

Yeah ... I'm sure Uncle Dick would be just pleased as punch to have Coswell and Quinn as his quarterbacks. His heart wouldn't last through pre-season.

FAX

the Talking Can 01-03-2013 06:18 PM

i've always loved dick

Red Dawg 01-03-2013 06:18 PM

Dv is a class act. Nice of him to pimp us.

Scorp 01-03-2013 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9276003)
i've always loved dick

bundle of sticks! NTTIAWWT!

siberian khatru 01-03-2013 06:19 PM

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“You can’t have everything,” Vermeil said. “I’d rather have a great owner and no quarterback than a quarterback and not a great owner. They have a couple of quarterbacks (Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn) who have played well before, and maybe they’ll play well again."
**** that shit.

Hammock Parties 01-03-2013 06:22 PM

Pretty sure that Dick said "their QBs suck" in the nicest way in the history of civilization.

DeezNutz 01-03-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9276007)
**** that shit.

He's speaking about starting out, not discounting the overall importance of having a QB. If you have a great owner, you'll get a QB. Even if you have a QB, a shit owner can wreck everything.

BossChief 01-03-2013 06:26 PM

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“You can’t have everything,” Vermeil said. “I’d rather have a great owner and no quarterback than a quarterback and not a great owner. They have a couple of quarterbacks (Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn) who have played well before, and maybe they’ll play well again."

...

Haha yeah, that's why Vermiel traded so much for Trent Green.

007 01-03-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9276022)
Pretty sure that Dick said "their QBs suck" in the nicest way in the history of civilization.

As he cried.

htismaqe 01-03-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9276025)
He's speaking about starting out, not discounting the overall importance of having a QB. If you have a great owner, you'll get a QB. Even if you have a QB, a shit owner can wreck everything.

Precisely.

Bearcat 01-03-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9276025)
He's speaking about starting out, not discounting the overall importance of having a QB. If you have a great owner, you'll get a QB. Even if you have a QB, a shit owner can wreck everything.

And if there's one person who would be willing to take a chance on any QB out there and would talk about scheme over talent, it would be DV. And it's not like he's going to tell Reid to go to KC and then bash the roster, much less while talking to KC media.

Hootie 01-03-2013 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9276022)
Pretty sure that Dick said "their QBs suck" in the nicest way in the history of civilization.

yep, lol

FloridaMan88 01-03-2013 06:32 PM

The Chiefs have basically been a comatose franchise since Vermeil retired.

Fitting he would be the one to help bring them back from the dead.

Thig Lyfe 01-03-2013 06:33 PM

He was all like "YEAH!! GO!!! NO! NOOOOO!!!!"

Mr. Laz 01-03-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorp (Post 9275990)
Awwww Dick, I think I am gonna cry!

a dick that made your eyes water?


to each his own, i guess

Scorp 01-03-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9276077)
a dick that made your eyes water?


to each his own, i guess

salty! :D

Hammock Parties 01-03-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9276065)
He was all like "YEAH!! GO!!! NO! NOOOOO!!!!"

While I was reading this article I was thinking DAMN Vermeil is TALL

Mr. Laz 01-03-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorp (Post 9276079)
salty! :D

ewwww



:D

FloridaMan88 01-03-2013 06:39 PM

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Hootie 01-03-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9276088)

"make sure to hug your children every night Andy, you never know when..."

ok I'll stop

Pasta Little Brioni 01-03-2013 06:42 PM

That game still makes me throw up in my mouth a little

cabletech94 01-03-2013 06:42 PM

IN (dick)!!!!

JohnnyHammersticks 01-03-2013 06:44 PM

Did anyone click the link to the article? Do you seriously have to become a paying member to access KC Star articles online now? What a crock of shit. Did that just start today?

Mr. Laz 01-03-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 9276104)
Did anyone click the link to the article? Do you seriously have to become a paying member to access KC Star articles online now? What a crock of shit. Did that just start today?

Posted on Thu, Jan. 03, 2013 05:04 PM

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Former Chiefs head coach Dick Vermeil (left) hugged former Eagles coach Andy Reid after the Eagles defeated the Chiefs 37-31 in 2005.

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Former Chiefs head coach Dick Vermeil gave Andy Reid one word of advice about taking the job in Kansas City.
“Go,” Vermeil said.
Vermeil, who lives in Philadelphia, speaks to Reid on a regular basis, including earlier this week before a contingent of Chiefs executives, led by chairman Clark Hunt, interviewed Reid for nine hours on Wednesday.
Negotiations were continuing on Thursday, and as of late in the afternoon, Vermeil had not heard if Reid and the Chiefs closed the deal.
Vermeil said there were several factors in why Reid was interested in the Chiefs, even when Arizona and San Diego had hoped to interview him.
“He’s coached at the University of Missouri,” Vermeil said of Reid’s three-year stint as on offensive line coach for the Tigers during 1989-91, “he’s been in middle America before and knows what the people are like. He knows how I feel about it. He’s been in that stadium. He kicked my rear … when we were ahead 18-0 … and he knows how the fans are there, and how that Arrowhead Stadium is when it’s full.
“And he knows the great respect and admiration people in the NFL have for the Hunt family, so why not go? There are no negatives.”
One negative is the shaky state of the quarterback position in Kansas City.
“You can’t have everything,” Vermeil said. “I’d rather have a great owner and no quarterback than a quarterback and not a great owner. They have a couple of quarterbacks (Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn) who have played well before, and maybe they’ll play well again. Sometimes schemes fit quarterbacks better than other schemes.
“This year took a guy out of college, for criminy sakes, (Nick Foles), a third-round draft choice, and he plays pretty darn well.”
Vermeil is confident that Reid, 54, can turn the Chiefs around.
“He’s been doing it for 14 years,” Vermeil said. “He finished on a downswing, but a lot of those things … the injury factor were part of the problem. The mistakes he’s made, if he has made any, he’ll know how to correct them. And he’s always had a great offensive football team, and when he’s had a real good defensive coordinator, he’s always had a good defensive team.
“When you’ve gone to five NFC championship games, you’ve done a hell of a job.”
Reid would be the third former Eagles coach or player to coach the Chiefs, following Vermeil (2001-05) and Herm Edwards (2006-08). Vermeil spent 1976-82 with the Eagles and took them to the Super Bowl following the 1980 season.
“You’ve got the best one,” Vermeil said of Reid. “He’s a great person and a great coach. I think he’ll fit in perfectly within that environment, within the community, and he’ll fit in the organization. I just don’t think you can do any better.”
Vermeil said Reid did not ask him about how he thought he could co-exist with Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli.


To reach Randy Covitz, call 816-234-4796 or send email to rcovitz@kcstar.com. Follow him at twitter.com/randycovitz.

Posted on Thu, Jan. 03, 2013 05:04 PM

-King- 01-03-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9276003)
i've always loved dick

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Dave Lane 01-03-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9276003)
i've always loved dick

Its a good thing I like you or I'd sig this :)

the Talking Can 01-03-2013 06:55 PM

hey, i just tee it up...

COchief 01-03-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9276091)
"make sure to hug your children every night Andy, you never know when..."

ok I'll stop

Tasteless, classless, and completely uncalled for.

What a shitstain you are. We haven't even hired the guy or given him a chance to duplicate his success in Phillie and already you've thrown the lowest possible blow you could at him. In all seriousness, I hope you die in a fire.

Bump 01-03-2013 06:56 PM

I love you Dick, but c'mon

“You can’t have everything,” Vermeil said. “I’d rather have a great owner and no quarterback than a quarterback and not a great owner. They have a couple of quarterbacks (Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn) who have played well before, and maybe they’ll play well again. Sometimes schemes fit quarterbacks better than other schemes.

Rugby Thompson 01-03-2013 06:57 PM

dick's losing his mind.

Mr. Arrowhead 01-03-2013 07:01 PM

Some dick love

Hootie 01-03-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 9276142)
Tasteless, classless, and completely uncalled for.

What a shitstain you are. We haven't even hired the guy or given him a chance to duplicate his success in Phillie and already you've thrown the lowest possible blow you could at him. In all seriousness, I hope you die in a fire.

alrighty then ROFL

you read this site often?

COchief 01-03-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9276167)
alrighty then ROFL

you read this site often?

Yeah, I've been here a decade longer than your teenage ass. This isn't /b/ where the goal is to be the edgiest and most hardcore teen douchebag in the room.

Making a joke about a man (who is by a mile the best coach available) who had to bury his own kid is vile and disgusting. I've thrown some shit around this board, but you are a piece of garbage. I can't believe that joke popped into your twisted mind and you had the gall and stupidity to actually post it.

Go find a gore thread to lol to ****face.

CoMoChief 01-03-2013 07:12 PM

I wish we could have DV now for a few years with the players we have on defense.

Just lock him out of the draft room on draft weekend.

Hootie 01-03-2013 07:12 PM

I'm very sorry, perhaps you can send me a private message and we could hash this out and be friends again.

Hammock Parties 01-03-2013 07:17 PM

If we had gone right from Vermeil to Reid we probably coulda won Tony G, LJ and Shields something but noooo

notorious 01-03-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9276095)
That game still makes me throw up in my mouth a little

This.

It all started on a Larry Johnson fumble.

SAUTO 01-03-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 9276178)
Yeah, I've been here a decade longer than your teenage ass. This isn't /b/ where the goal is to be the edgiest and most hardcore teen douchebag in the room.

Making a joke about a man (who is by a mile the best coach available) who had to bury his own kid is vile and disgusting. I've thrown some shit around this board, but you are a piece of garbage. I can't believe that joke popped into your twisted mind and you had the gall and stupidity to actually post it.

Go find a gore thread to lol to ****face.

who knew Andy had an account here for over a decade?
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Chief Roundup 01-03-2013 07:22 PM

Thanks Vermeil. I hope you told him to hire a real DC.

htismaqe 01-03-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9276239)
Thanks Vermeil. I hope you told him to hire a real DC.

Probably told him to hire Greg Robinson.

KCUnited 01-03-2013 07:26 PM

Vermeil had no defense when pressed by Reid.

Chief Roundup 01-03-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9276246)
Probably told him to hire Greg Robinson.

4321 :grr:

NJChiefsFan 01-03-2013 08:00 PM

"Dick Vermeil loves Chiefs fans and Chiefs fans love Dick". This is what I heard over the speakers while pissing in the trough at Arrowhead during my first trip to KC.

ChiefGator 01-03-2013 08:18 PM

I thought it was great, candid analysis. And recognition you need to get a real defensive coordinator...

SAUTO 01-03-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9276521)
"Dick Vermeil loves Chiefs fans and Chiefs fans love Dick". This is what I heard over the speakers while pissing in the trough at Arrowhead during my first trip to KC.

Well you did have it in your hand...
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chief52 01-03-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9276095)
That game still makes me throw up in my mouth a little

Tell me about it...I have only been to Arrowhead once in my life. Flew out for the Chief/Eagle game that year. Looked at the schedule and said that is the game to see. DAMN!:cuss::deevee:

Isn't it the biggest lead the Chiefs have ever given up at Arrowhead?

milkman 01-03-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9276058)
The Chiefs have basically been a comatose franchise since Vermeil retired.

Fitting he would be the one to help bring them back from the dead.

I guess it is fitting, since it was he and Carl that let the roster grow old and stale, which ultimately led to the demise of the Chiefs.

ILChief 01-03-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 9276785)
Tell me about it...I have only been to Arrowhead once in my life. Flew out for the Chief/Eagle game that year. Looked at the schedule and said that is the game to see. DAMN!:cuss::deevee:

Isn't it the biggest lead the Chiefs have ever given up at Arrowhead?

I was at the one during the Herm years vs. the Bucs w/ Gruden where we gave up a pretty big lead at half time. It was the one where Mark Bradley threw the TD pass to Tyler Thigpen.

GloryDayz 01-03-2013 09:29 PM

I knew he made wine, I didn't realize he drank so much of it. cASSHOLE!!!?? Really??? No, no scheme works for that ****er!

SAUTO 01-03-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9277119)
I knew he made wine, I didn't realize he drank so much of it. cASSHOLE!!!?? Really??? No, no scheme works for that ****er!

Coach speak.
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Ultra Peanut 01-03-2013 10:42 PM

I'd have taken a 90 year old Vermeil after going through the past few years.

crossbow 01-03-2013 10:45 PM

Real classy of Mr. Vermiel to complement our team, owner, venue, and fans. Good man.

mcan 01-03-2013 11:14 PM

It's unlikely there will ever be another coach that will unseat Vermeil as my favorite coach.

DaneMcCloud 01-03-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mcan (Post 9277808)
It's unlikely there will ever be another coach that will unseat Vermeil as my favorite coach.

LMAO

Vermeil, like his ancestors, know nothing about defense.

Good luck with that.

Imon Yourside 01-03-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mcan (Post 9277808)
It's unlikely there will ever be another coach that will unseat Vermeil as my favorite coach.

I love the guy too, but Reid can surpass him with a couple of playoff victories. Ok I meant A playoff victory. :D

dj56dt58 01-03-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 9276785)
Tell me about it...I have only been to Arrowhead once in my life. Flew out for the Chief/Eagle game that year. Looked at the schedule and said that is the game to see. DAMN!:cuss::deevee:

Isn't it the biggest lead the Chiefs have ever given up at Arrowhead?

Well we haven't had too many big leads to blow the past 7 years

ChiefMojo 01-03-2013 11:39 PM

Grandpa Dick gave us some wonderful memories when it came to offense and oh were they so great. With that said, I can say two words to sum up his defense... Greg Robinson. OMG we were pathetic on defense!!!

Chief Roundup 01-03-2013 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcan (Post 9277808)
It's unlikely there will ever be another coach that will unseat Vermeil as my favorite coach.

Whichever coach wins a SB for the chiefs will be my favorite.

rico 01-04-2013 03:33 AM

This article fails to mention the moment in which Dick became emotional and began crying.

CoMoChief 01-04-2013 05:34 AM

One thing that DV understands which the Pioli/Patriots Way doesn't, is he understands Kansas City, and the folks that live here. So does Andy Reid from his time at Mizzou. We're not snobbish east coast assholes. You can hold doors open for people and say please and thank you and people don't look at you like you're nuts. DV is a down to earth sincere person, you can't fault him for that and really the world needs more people like that. If a player knows that a coach cares about him, he will lay his body out on the line for that coach and he will play his ass off. That's what our offensive guys did for DV, and at the same time he demanded perfection.

WhiteWhale 01-04-2013 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 9276007)
**** that shit.

A coach can change and improve the QB position.

He's stuck with the owner.

DV is right.

WhiteWhale 01-04-2013 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9277119)
I knew he made wine, I didn't realize he drank so much of it. cASSHOLE!!!?? Really??? No, no scheme works for that ****er!

I agree with you, but DV is old. He's from a time when the QB position wasn't the be all end all of the NFL. Fouts sucked, then with a system change became a very good QB.

It won't happen with Cassel though, because he sucks specifically at throwing the football... an important aspect of playing QB.

chiefzilla1501 01-04-2013 07:39 AM

It's a shame Vermeil wasn't the consultant on our first go-around.

Even in the background, he's got the story perfect. I love how he acknowledged that Arrowhead is a force... but only when the stadium is full. Love how he made it pretty clear (even if he corrected himself midway through) that the QB is a problem. Love that he was direct in saying that Reid's defense has struggled because he hasn't made good Defensive Coordinator hires.

Wipe out Pioli's ridiculous media blackout. Get a new QB. Don't let Reid hire the DC. Sounds like a good formula right there.

chiefzilla1501 01-04-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 9278467)
I agree with you, but DV is old. He's from a time when the QB position wasn't the be all end all of the NFL. Fouts sucked, then with a system change became a very good QB.

It won't happen with Cassel though, because he sucks specifically at throwing the football... an important aspect of playing QB.

Granted, this is a coach who refused to bench Tony Banks and had to have front office intervention to do it.

But I think his comments made clear that he thinks our QBs suck, and then he backtracked so he didn't throw our QBs under the bus. Don't think anyone can read that and think he's in any way endorsing Cassel or Quinn. But I get what he's saying. Think he's saying you have to make sure you fit in with the owner, because that's for life. Once you fit in with the owner, that owner can help you get your QB.

WhiteWhale 01-04-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9278488)
Granted, this is a coach who refused to bench Tony Banks and had to have front office intervention to do it.

But I think his comments made clear that he thinks our QBs suck, and then he backtracked so he didn't throw our QBs under the bus. Don't think anyone can read that and think he's in any way endorsing Cassel or Quinn. But I get what he's saying. Think he's saying you have to make sure you fit in with the owner, because that's for life. Once you fit in with the owner, that owner can help you get your QB.

That's how I interpreted it.

DV tends to see things that aren't there in players. Sometimes, like with Dante Hall, he sees something that was there.

AussieChiefsFan 01-04-2013 07:57 AM

Thanks Dick, Cheers. :toast:

Raiderhater 01-04-2013 12:06 PM

Dickie V on 610 right now.


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