If Andy Reid took the Chiefs to 5 AFC Championship Games over the next 14 years...
 

Would you be happy or not?

That would mean 10+ playoff victories. Maybe One Superbowl appearance and no wins.

Would you be okay with this?

Yes.

No, I like losing.

No.

There would be a lot of emotional pain after losing a Super Bowl, but 10 PLayoff wins is more than the CHIefs have had in their entire existence. So in the end Id be fine with it. If he did those things here, he'd be a god.

14 years and no SB win?

Hmmm... no.

It would be better than it is now, but in the end it would be... So what?

Andy Reid is winning a SB here so as far as I'm concerned he's the Messiah of Chiefs football.

Trade in 3 or 4 of those AFC Champ games for 1 SB win and I am in.

**** that.

I ain't getting any younger.

Happy?

Put up a ****ing statue at the Truman Complex.

Just checking the pulse. Reid's Philly resume is pretty ****ing impressive compared to what we've had since Schottenheimer.

I'll probably be in the minority, but I would be 100% fine with that. I'm more concerned about having sustained competitive football than I am about the team winning the SB. I mean, the expectation is that a competitive team MIGHT win a SB at some point, but the fact of the matter is I'm entertained as long as the team looks good and is competitive in every game.

It would be frustrating to get that close and not win, but yes.

It would be a good step for sure. But no, I want a title. And I think Reid can get it.

Obviously compared to where we are right now, that would be great. But once we are in that position of coming up short, it won't be.

I don't think this franchise is going to win a superbowl anyway. They're cursed.
I'm apathetic to this team. That feeling has not gone away. So if they didn't win a superbowl I wouldn't have any feelings whatsoever.

What you're suggesting is a heck of an accomplishment for this franchise. I'd be surprised if they ever got that much success out of Andy Reid.

As much as i want a SB ya im good. If we dont get to a SB in 5 AFC champ games im killing something

I would love to win a Super Bowl but I've said all along that I just want to see the Chiefs hold the LAMAR HUNT Trophy. If they make the Super Bowl and lose, I guess I will deal with it.

It would be a fun ride but ultimately I'd be pretty disappointed.

I assume you mean other than Vermeil.

Considering the Chiefs have only been to one AFC Championship Game in their franchise history (excluding AFL Championship Game appearances)... 5 in 14 years would be an upgrade.

Sounds like 14 seasons ending in heartache and regret. No thanks.

Drink that koolaid suckers

A playoff win...WTF IS THAT???



Yes I'd be fine with that.

All I want is a competitive team who will play to win and not play ultraconservative in the playoffs. If I get that I will be happy.

No. Success would be finding a franchise QB and winning it all. Anything less would be a failure. ESPECIALLY after you fire everyone to give him full control and make him one of the highest paid coaches in the league...

We're Chiefs fans.

The last 14 seasons have ended in depression.

Heartache and regret is a huge upgrade.

This is a hard question though.

Wait, what great post season wins did we have under Vermeil?

When Vermeil came here he had just won a Super Bowl with the Rams.

A harder related question would be would you rather:

A. Have the team be competitive every year for 15 years, but never win a SB.
B. Have the team be shitty for 10 of the 15 years, but manage to squeak out a SB win one year miraculously

Actually, you could get to 5 AFCC games by winning as few as 5 playoff games.

ROFL

Id be fine with it, anything that makes someone besides the Chiefs the laughing stock of football.

Pro sports is about being a champion. Everything else is well.... not. If you're happy with good seasons that never end in a championship you must be a beat down Chiefs fan or something.

Happy isn't really the right word.

If Reid were to accomplish this, it would be a lot. Very noteworthy. However, it's still short of the goal. So, no, I wouldn't be "happy." But I also wouldn't be pissed because it's absurd not to recognize that the man would have a pretty damn good level of success.

That's all I want...1 title. Then we can go back to sucking.

this unironically

Comparing the past of one coach to the past of another during the same time frame.

Vermeil began coaching again after Schottenheimer left us and he won a superbowl during that time.

Unfortunately it was with the wrong Missouri team.

Its hard to say no to something like this with all we have been through but in the end its about winning the SB. I don't mind taking licks to get there but eventually that is the goal. Never getting there won't be enough.

No. I want a damn Super Bowl victory.

Romeo has set the bar for perceived success very low. Andy does have a good resume and has more success than the chiefs overall. I hope we are not picking him up past his prime. Winning a playoff game is nice and all but **** that we need to win the whole damn thing.

Let's pretend Arizona won the SB in 2008.

Would we rather be the Cardinals of the last 14 years. Or Eagles of the last 14 years.

Tough call. But a SB trophy would be something unforgettable.

I don't disagree. But I want to set my sights on a higher prize and deal with the disappointment.

I tried to ask myself, "What Poll would Rain Man and DaFace write if they were asking this question?"

WWRMD
WWDFD

:-D

I am so tired of the yes or no polls.

Yes, I want to be competitive year in and year out.

No, I won't be satisfied without seeing a superbowl win in my lifetime.

Because of the damn poll options, I selected no.

I've been answering this question since I was on a Chiefs listserv in the mid-90s, and it's always been the same:

I take the Super Bowl.

We need 2 Superbowl Championships over the next 10 years .

Nice. That should be the next banner.

ANDY, WE NEED 2 SBS IN NEXT 10 YEARS - SOC.COM

Let's tell Clark that's what we want.

If he gets to 5 more he is winning 1 at least.

I'd be happier than now. I'm 42 almost and have seen 3 playoff wins and 1 AFC Championship game. At least I would be excited about Chiefs football again.

Iam sure i cant live that long .. he needs a SB win in next three .....

FIVE? How about ONE playoff win.

JFC. This forum has gone full ****ing reerun.

One step at a time is a realistic way of thinking.

Based upon the last 30 years, if Reid gets us to 5 AFC championship games in the next 14 years, Clark should build a freaking statue of him out in front of Arrowhead.

I think that's reasonable.

I'd love the 1999-2004 results. 2005-2012? Notsomuch. Which would be why I'm not wildly enthusiastic about the hire.

Another 14 years without a championship? Wouldn't be thrilled. That's just a return to Martyocrity.

Yes I want to be excited about Chiefs football again but seeing that I just turned 50 I answered NO.

I'm all about the dynasty.

49% plus of this board is happy with just being better so far. ****ing sad.

The first time I've ever selected the "Gaz" option. That Gaz was quite the poster by the sounds of it, eh?

Every season there is only one winner, everyone else is a loser. Would making it to even ONE AFC championship game be an improvement? Absolutely but failing to win it all means that in the end you still failed.

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No. I have no desire to see the guy come here and repeat his success from Philadelphia. The idea is we progress and get better in our careers as we go. And I don't want to be a 50 year old Chiefs fan that has NEVER seen a Super Bowl victory. I don't care if the guy wins 6 playoff games in 14 years as long as 1 of them is a Super Bowl win. I'd rather win it next year, and watch him stumble for the 13 afterwards than just make the dance every year. I was ready for Carl Peterson to go for that very reason. This franchise, this town, this fan base deserves to know what winning it all feels like. Only it's oldest fan elders can relate those feelings, and 14 years from now there may not be any of those left...

Funny what time will do... so many are content with just getting back to what you left with Marty. Losing does that though.

I think Reid is a smart hire and if given 2 years, he can really revamp that team. Hell, I think he can do some great things in his first season there as there are a number of good players. I'd say if he can make some serious moves with players and the last place schedule - KC is an 8 win team minimum in 2013, then set up to really make noise in 2014.

Will be interesting to see it all play out - now if only OAK and SD could figure out how to be better.

The last half of your life has been a bit painful since the league moved from 28-32 teams... :evil: I'm 42 as well and couldn't imagine fighting through the pain of the last 20. Crazy to think it's less than a year away from that 20 year anniversary of the win at the Houston Oilers. Seems so weird to even type that name.

Hell why not? We haven't been to a SB since 1970....last PLAYOFF VICTORY was in 1994.

A step in the right direction, as long as it's part of a PROCESS building toward multiple SB wins.

stop it

A team year after year that wins, gets many playoff wins and FINALLY makes it back to the Super Bowl after 45 or so years, HELL YES!!! Of course I want to win the Super Bowl but I don't think a 9-7 team that squeaks into the SB and wins but never wins any other year would be as satisfying to me......

I don't know. Yes, I'd be happy to see a quality football product on the field again. I just know that 5 years of near misses makes it acceptable for us to see 15 years of near misses, before we realize that we need to make a move.

I would rather win one Super Bowl in 5 years and not make the playoffs the other 4 then come close and never make it.

You have to figure the fickleness of Chiefs fans. If he spread the playoff games through the 14 years maybe some would be pacified. If he didn't do squat for 4 years he'd be gone and the other 10 would be speculation. From what I see here the fans want instant success. In the Chiefs case instant is kind of an open ended date - last playoff win was in 1993 so there really isn't a measuring stick to go by.

Regardless of who the HC is if the Chiefs do well we will all be happy, if we continue to suck as we have of late I don't think the league will last long enough to see the Chiefs in the SB again.

I would embrace it.

That would officially rid us of the stench that is Marty forever...

I've never seen this team win more than 2 playoff games.

Just being in the SB?

**** yeah I'd be happy...

stoopid premise, i went w/ gaz

If Marty had of known the difference between playing to win and playing not to lose in the playoffs things would have been different. He was really aggressive in the regular season but turned into Herman Edwards in the playoffs.

Would I be completely satisfied if they got that close without ever winning it all? Of course I wouldn't. Nobody would.

But will I be extremely happy if Andy Reid is able to establish a program that has sustained success over a long period of time, presumably with plenty of thrills along the way, even if Reid never manages to hoist the Lombardi Trophy over his head?

Hell yes.

Clark Hunt has recognized what a monumental mistake Pioli was. He's blowing up the entire organization and turning it over to a proven winner. Anyone who isn't ecstatic about the changes that are taking place right now is a freaking idiot.

I'm sure there will be bumps along the way, and I'm sure every now and then Andy Reid will make a decision that is sharply criticized by everyone (including me). But at least Clark Hunt is doing the right thing and pointing the Chiefs in the right direction. For the first time in years I actually have some optimism about this team. This is the BEST Chiefs' coaching hire since Marty Schottenheimer. And despite what any Schottenheimer-bashers may think, that was a GREAT coaching hire.

Marty can go F himself permanetly....

Exactly this.....

I would say you need a public poll, but this is giving us an honest outlook on the fanbase's opinion.


I am greatly disappointed.