Congrats Chiefs fans, Andy Reid is your new coach. Here's what to expect....
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2...ide-to-big-red
A guide to Andy Reid. Pretty good read... Quote:
|
Ty
|
I want to hear what Jamaal Charles thinks of this malarkey.
|
Jon Baldwin just peed his pants.
|
So you've hired Andy Reid: A guide to "Big Red"
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2...ide-to-big-red
Congrats Chiefs fans, Andy Reid is your new coach. Here's what to expect. Earlier this week, I did a Q&A with Arrowhead Pride where I spent a lot of time talking about where things went wrong with Reid in recent years. I'm not going to do that here. So if you're interested in hearing about that, definitely go check out the previous piece. What I want to do here is explain more about Reid's methodology and how he views the game. First and foremost Reid sees the NFL through the prism of the pass. He believes it's a passing league and that success comes from throwing on offense and stopping the throw on defense. When you look at the game through Reid's eyes, you can understand where he puts his emphasis. Personnel - Defense How do you go about stopping the pass on defense? You rush the passer and you play coverage. So it stands to reason that Reid invests his defensive resources on pass rushing defensive ends and good corners. If you look at some of Andy Reid's biggest free agency expenditures, they're almost all in these categories. He spent mega bucks to go get Asante Samuel & Nnamdi Asomugha, traded for Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and spent high picks on Lito Sheppard & Sheldon Brown. He's also spent big money on free agent pass rushers like Jevon Kearse, Jason Babin and spent first round picks on guys like Jerome McDougle and Brandon Graham. Don't expect a lot of investment in LBs and safeties. The Chiefs are lucky in that they already have a good safety in Eric Berry, much like the Eagles were lucky to already have a safety named Brian Dawkins before Reid arrived. The only safety of note Reid has been able to find himself was Quintin Mikell who he got lucky with as an undrafted free agent. The LBs have been a revolving door for nearly Reid's entire tenure. Virtually no top picks have been used on LBs. Personnel - Offense On offense, it's not quite as obvious but there are a few Reid hallmarks. First and foremost is the offensive line, because you've obviously got to protect the passer if throwing the ball is how you win. One of his very first moves when he came to Philadelphia was to jump into the free agent market and make Jon Runyan the highest paid offensive lineman of all time (at the time). He's since spent a pair of first round picks on the line, as well as traded a first round pick for Jason Peters and paid him big money too. So expect heavy investment on the line. Obviously QB is the other major factor in building a passing game and Reid has certainly always invested there to some degree. Obviously drafting Donovan McNabb with his first ever draft pick meant he didn't have to invest all that much at the QB position in the years, but he has had some levels of success stocking the team with young arms. None of these guys have ended up being particularly good QBs, but he has had some success with them and turned them into value later. AJ Feeley had a decent 6 game stretch here once and Andy turned that into a 2nd round pick. Kevin Kolb played only a couple games, but was flipped for a 2nd rounder and DRC. I would bet a lot of money on whichever guy Andy uses your #1 pick on to be an offensive tackle or a QB. As for WRs, Andy has always had a complicated history. His first probably 4 years here were just a parade of so-so guys, which was baffling for a guy that called as many passes as he did. But if you look back at the overall body of work, it does seem like he has tried to stock the team with good WRs, to varying degrees of success. Obviously the most notorious move was the trade for Terrell Owens, which worked out spectacularly for one year and spectacular disaster the next. He spent a first round pick on Freddie Mitchell, who was a bust, and one on Jeremy Maclin, who is hardly dominant but a good player. He spent second rounders on Todd Pinkston, bust, & DeSean Jackson, hit. So his record of success with WRs is spotty and his desire to find quality ones is somewhat suspect given that he runs a pass first offense. As for running backs, Andy has never invested a top pick or big free agent money in the position. And why would he if he sees the game through the prism of the pass? Despite that, he's brought in some damn good RBs in time here. He picked Correll Buckhalter in the 4th round of the 2001 draft, Brian Westbrook in the 3rd round of the 2002 draft and LeSean McCoy in the 2nd round of the 2009 draft. So he's really always had good backs, despite never spending big to get them. Playcalling - Defense I remind you that he sees the game through the prism of the pass. So on defense, everything is predicated on getting to the quarterback. In the Jim Johnson era, that was accomplished through constant blitzing. Johnson was a master of the blitz and not only knew when to call them, but excelled in hiding where they were coming from and confusing QBs. After Jim Johnson passed away, one of his protoges, Sean McDermott, took over and tried to keep up the blitzing but never showed the same kind of nuance Johnson had. As a result, the Eagles were burned on blitzes through the air and on the ground time and time again. Reid or McDermott had no plan B. After McDermott Reid hired Jim Washburn to bring his "wide 9" to the Eagles defensive line. He then reportedly offered the coordinator's job to Dick Jauron, who turned it down because he didn't want to work with the wide 9. (Perhaps hiring a position coach that would dictate what the defense did before the coordinator was even hired was a mistake in hindsight?) He then tried to pry Todd Bowles away from Miami, but they refused to give him permission. Eventually, he settled on offensive line coach Juan Castillo as his defensive coordinator. Things were really a mess from there on and took Reid's view of defense to it's scary conclusion. He had big money corners in place (Samuel, then Asomugha), he had good pass rushers in Babin & Trent Cole and he had a scheme that let them loose after the QB on every play. Only it didn't work. Time and time again teams would run in the huge gaps created by the wide 9 and not filled by the group of undrafted free agents or whoever else happened to called on to play LB that week (I'm not kidding about that either, there was that much turnover). Or they would just ride the wide rushers out of the play and burn them with the pass. But again, with Jim Johnson, the philosophy worked. Playcalling - Offense On offense, obviously be prepared for a lot more passing than you are used to. Andy likes to throw. Part of the core west coast offense philosophy is that short passes are basically just like runs. So while he may not hand it off 20 times a game to a back, he'll say that you threw some screens or quick slants and got the same effect. Is that true? That's for you to judge. RBs do catch a lot of passes in his offense though, so be prepared for Jamaal Charles to reasonably get 70+ targets next year. And he better be ready to pass block. If you're a RB in Reid's offense and you can't pass block and catch passes, you don't play. Andy hasn't stuck to all of the core WCO principles. His offense has before more vertical than more traditional west coast schemes and he's always favored speed in WRs over size. He wants to hit guys on shorts slants and let them run with the ball or he wants to hit them over the top of the defenses. The big, move the chains, red zone type of WR has just never been what he's looked for. Gimmicks. Get ready for them. I don't quite know what it is with Andy, but he's always wanted to try to be trickier than he really is and if he has success with a trick once, he'll use it time and time again. Two cases in point. The flea flicker. This worked like one time here and he's since used more than maybe every other team combined. It may have only worked that first time. End arounds are another. There is not an Eagles fan alive when that doesn't groan when they see the Eagles running an end around motion. They do it so often that no defense is ever surprised or caught off guard. They did it so often that Reid's solution at one point became to run fake end around motions. Of course, then you're just slowing down the whole play and basically taking one of wideouts out of it. He should really just lose the end around from the playbook. Seriously Clark Hunt, if the ink isn't dry yet, write this on the margins of the contract. Having said all that, here's what the philosophy boil down to. Throwing is the answer to your problems. I guarantee you'll hear Andy say this in the next year, "keep firing." That's his philosophy. If the pass is not working, you don't give up... you keep firing. You pass early to get a lead so you can run later to keep it. If you don't get a lead or you fall behind... you keep firing. And while this may sound bad, let's not forget the facts. Andy's offenses have scored a lot of points. They were 8th in ppg even last year (2011). They were 3rd in 2010. 5th in 2009. 6th in 2008 and so on. Situationally, you will question whether his philosophy makes sense. I certainly do... But when you step back and look at the big picture, they score points. Other stuff Andy is a player's coach. You'll almost never hear him call a player out and he'll always take the blame on himself. He shows very little emotion on the sidelines or in the press room. He's a nice guy with a jovial personality, but for the most part his press conferences will the be the most boring thing you hear in a given week. That's how he deals with the media. He bores them to death. I'm not joking. He doesn't fight with them, he doesn't take their bait, he doesn't try to charm them or be their friend. He says what he plans to say and then he just waits them out. How many questions can you ask and get "I'll have to look at the film" or "we'll have to work on that" as a response before you just give up? Expect to move around on draft day, a lot. Andy doesn't like to sit still. Whether it's trading back to acquire more picks or moving up, he's very active on draft day. Learn to love big men as top picks. Andy Reid has made 14 top picks. 9 have been offensive or defensive lineman. Oh and on draft days, he wears giants Hawaiian shirts. So there's Andy Reid, a guide. Best of luck and enjoy. "Time's yours" will soon enter the KC lexicon. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
arlier this week, I did a Q&A with Arrowhead Pride where I spent a lot of time talking about where things went wrong with Reid in recent years. I'm not going to do that here. So if you're interested in hearing about that, definitely go check out the previous piece.
What I want to do here is explain more about Reid's methodology and how he views the game. First and foremost Reid sees the NFL through the prism of the pass. He believes it's a passing league and that success comes from throwing on offense and stopping the throw on defense. When you look at the game through Reid's eyes, you can understand where he puts his emphasis. Personnel - Defense How do you go about stopping the pass on defense? You rush the passer and you play coverage. So it stands to reason that Reid invests his defensive resources on pass rushing defensive ends and good corners. If you look at some of Andy Reid's biggest free agency expenditures, they're almost all in these categories. He spent mega bucks to go get Asante Samuel & Nnamdi Asomugha, traded for Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and spent first round picks on Lito Sheppard & Sheldon Brown. He's also spent big money on free agent pass rushers like Jevon Kearse, Jason Babin and spent first round picks on guys like Jerome McDougle and Brandon Graham. Don't expect a lot of investment in LBs and safeties. The Chiefs are lucky in that they already have a good safety in Eric Berry, much like the Eagles were lucky to already have a safety named Brian Dawkins before Reid arrived. The only safety of note Reid has been able to find himself was Quintin Mikell who he got lucky with as an undrafted free agent. The LBs have been a revolving door for nearly Reid's entire tenure. Personnel - Offense On offense, it's not quite as obvious but there are a few Reid hallmarks. First and foremost is the offensive line, because you've obviously got to protect the passer if throwing the ball is how you win. One of his very first moves when he came to Philadelphia was to jump into the free agent market and make Jon Runyan the highest paid offensive lineman of all time (at the time). He's since spent a pair of first round picks on the line, as well as traded a first round pick for Jason Peters and paid him big money too. So expect heavy investment on the line. Howard Smith-USA TODAY Sports Obviously QB is the other major factor in building a passing game and Reid has certainly always invested there to some degree. Obviously drafting Donovan McNabb with his first ever draft pick meant he didn't have to invest all that much at the QB position in the years, but he has had some levels of success stocking the team with young arms. None of these guys have ended up being particularly good QBs, but he has had some success with them and turned them into value later. AJ Feeley had a decent 6 game stretch here once and Andy turned that into a 2nd round pick. Kevin Kolb played only a couple games, but was flipped for a 2nd rounder and DRC. I would bet a lot of money on whichever guy Andy uses your #1 pick on to be an offensive tackle or a QB. As for WRs, Andy has always had a complicated history. His first probably 4 years here were just a parade of so-so guys, which was baffling for a guy that called as many passes as he did. But if you look back at the overall body of work, it does seem like he has tried to stock the team with good WRs, to varying degrees of success. Obviously the most notorious move was the trade for Terrell Owens, which worked out spectacularly for one year and spectacular disaster the next. He spent a first round pick on Freddie Mitchell, who was a bust, and one on Jeremy Maclin, who is hardly dominant but a good player. He spent second rounders on Todd Pinkston, bust, & DeSean Jackson, hit. So his record of success with WRs is spotty and his desire to find quality ones is somewhat suspect given that he runs a pass first offense. As for running backs, Andy has never invested a top pick or big free agent money in the position. And why would he if he sees the game through the prism of the pass? Despite that, he's brought in some damn good RBs in time here. He picked Correll Buckhalter in the 4th round of the 2001 draft, Brian Westbrook in the 3rd round of the 2002 draft and LeSean McCoy in the 2nd round of the 2009 draft. So he's really always had good backs, despite never spending big to get them. Playcalling - Defense I remind you that he sees the game through the prism of the pass. So on defense, everything is predicated on getting to the quarterback. In the Jim Johnson era, that was accomplished through constant blitzing. Johnson was a master of the blitz and not only knew when to call them, but excelled in hiding where they were coming from and confusing QBs. After Jim Johnson passed away, one of his protoges, Sean McDermott, took over and tried to keep up the blitzing but never showed the same kind of nuance Johnson had. As a result, the Eagles were burned on blitzes through the air and on the ground time and time again. Reid or McDermott had no plan B. After McDermott Reid hired Jim Washburn to bring his "wide 9" to the Eagles defensive line. He then reportedly offered the coordinator's job to Dick Jauron, who turned it down because he didn't want to work with the wide 9. (Perhaps hiring a position coach that would dictate what the defense did before the coordinator was even hired was a mistake in hindsight?) He then tried to pry Todd Bowles away from Miami, but they refused to give him permission. Eventually, he settled on offensive line coach Juan Castillo as his defensive coordinator. Things were really a mess from there on and took Reid's view of defense to it's scary conclusion. He had big money corners in place (Samuel, then Asomugha), he had good pass rushers in Babin & Trent Cole and he had a scheme that let them loose after the QB on every play. Only it didn't work. Time and time again teams would run in the huge gaps created by the wide 9 and not filled by the group of undrafted free agents or whoever else happened to called on to play LB that week (I'm not kidding about that either, there was that much turnover). Or they would just ride the wide rushers out of the play and burn them with the pass. But again, with Jim Johnson, the philosophy worked. Howard Smith-USA TODAY Sports Playcalling - Offense On offense, obviously be prepared for a lot more passing than you are used to. Andy likes to throw. Part of the core west coast offense philosophy is that short passes are basically just like runs. So while he may not hand it off 20 times a game to a back, he'll say that you threw some screens or quick slants and got the same effect. Is that true? That's for you to judge. RBs do catch a lot of passes in his offense though, so be prepared for Jamaal Charles to reasonably get 70+ targets next year. And he better be ready to pass block. If you're a RB in Reid's offense and you can't pass block and catch passes, you don't play. Andy hasn't stuck to all of the core WCO principles. His offense has before more vertical than more traditional west coast schemes and he's always favored speed in WRs over size. He wants to hit guys on shorts slants and let them run with the ball or he wants to hit them over the top of the defenses. The big, move the chains, red zone type of WR has just never been what he's looked for. Gimmicks. Get ready for them. I don't quite know what it is with Andy, but he's always wanted to try to be trickier than he really is and if he has success with a trick once, he'll use it time and time again. Two cases in point. The flea flicker. This worked like one time here and he's since used more than maybe every other team combined. It may have only worked that first time. End arounds are another. There is not an Eagles fan alive when that doesn't groan when they see the Eagles running an end around motion. They do it so often that no defense is ever surprised or caught off guard. They did it so often that Reid's solution at one point became to run fake end around motions. Of course, then you're just slowing down the whole play and basically taking one of wideouts out of it. He should really just lose the end around from the playbook. Seriously Clark Hunt, if the ink isn't dry yet, write this on the margins of the contract. Having said all that, here's what the philosophy boil down to. Throwing is the answer to your problems. I guarantee you'll hear Andy say this in the next year, "keep firing." That's his philosophy. If the pass is not working, you don't give up... you keep firing. You pass early to get a lead so you can run later to keep it. If you don't get a lead or you fall behind... you keep firing. And while this may sound bad, let's not forget the facts. Andy's offenses have scored a lot of points. They were 8th in ppg even last year (2011). They were 3rd in 2010. 5th in 2009. 6th in 2008 and so on. Situationally, you will question whether his philosophy makes sense. I certainly do... But when you step back and look at the big picture, they score points. Other stuff Andy is a player's coach. You'll almost never hear him call a player out and he'll always take the blame on himself. He shows very little emotion on the sidelines or in the press room. He's a nice guy with a jovial personality, but for the most part his press conferences will the be the most boring thing you hear in a given week. That's how he deals with the media. He bores them to death. I'm not joking. He doesn't fight with them, he doesn't take their bait, he doesn't try to charm them or be their friend. He says what he plans to say and then he just waits them out. How many questions can you ask and get "I'll have to look at the film" or "we'll have to work on that" as a response before you just give up? Expect to move around on draft day, a lot. Andy doesn't like to sit still. Whether it's trading back to acquire more picks or moving up, he's very active on draft day. Learn to love big men as top picks. Andy Reid has made 14 top picks. 9 have been offensive or defensive lineman. Oh and on draft days, he wears giants Hawaiian shirts. So there's Andy Reid, a guide. Best of luck and enjoy. "Time's yours" will soon enter the KC lexicon. |
Oh nooze, the return of the "Circus Offense!"
You have to remember though, the offense needs to help out the defense! |
Ohhhhhhhh **** you. :D
I at least put all of my shit in the ****ing OP. |
Hope this make D Bowe want to stay.
|
I'd rather keep firing than run, run, run, maybe a 1st down, run, horribly inaccurate pass after holding penalty, draw, punt, terrible defense.
|
So you've Q'd a Q
|
Quote:
What do I do now? |
Quote:
|
Finally someone who will put a HUGE emphasis on QB play and pass rushing from the DL.
I ****ing love this hire. |
Quote:
|
And the down side to this is what? We just went through spongehead fatpants saying i dont know for a year.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
Actually, pretty amazing that Reid, who doesn't focus on LBs, is joining a team whose biggest strength is its LB corp. Reid can let Houston, DJ, and Hali do their thangs while he focuses on getting a top CB opposite Flowers and some real pass rushers on the DL. |
Trust me we have seen many different styles of interviews from our coaches. Dating back to Vermeil he was a crier as Philly fans know who showed his emotions on his sleeves. Herm was the master of the press... would say anything to hear himself talk and make a wonderful sound bit. Haley just mumbled his way through a PC, trying to say little as possible. Then of course we had RAC, the master of clueless banter.
|
NO more Omaha Omaha/ too fat
|
Loooove is lovelier.....
|
Quote:
Are you suggesting Romeo Crennel masterbantered in front of the press? |
Quote:
It's embarrassing how bad the last coaching staff has been. |
Cool, thanks for posting.
|
I love this hire. **** yeah.
|
Quote:
Not going to happen. |
I'd never really considered it, but he's right about Reid not being big on big receivers, other than Owens.
Wonder what that could possibly mean for Bowe, and Baldwin for that matter? Its easy to see Baldwin on his way out, but Bowe might be kept around for a while. |
Quote:
|
KEEP FIRING, ASSHOLES
|
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/10Li4V1JH70?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
|
Quote:
Jamaal Charles vs. LeSean McCoy Code:
Year Charles Rush Charles Rec McCoy Rush McCoy Rec |
Quote:
How is Reid not big on receivers when he...signed T.O. to a huge contract, traded for Anquan only to have it all fall apart on some technicality, drafted DeSean Jackson either in the last 1st roudn or early 2nd, and then drafted Maclin in the 1st round. Not to mention drafting Freddie (FredEx) Mitchell in the 1st round as well. He had shitty receivers for a few years in Philadelphia until he finally got tired of Todd Pinkston and decided to throw every possible resource whether it be trade, free agency or draft to find good receivers for McNabb. |
Quote:
|
If he wants to spend a draft pick on Maclin trade wise, I'd be fine wtih it.
|
Quote:
|
I'd take Maclin in a heart beat but I'm not sure the Eagles would want to trade him. I don't know why they'd want to trade him, anyways...he's not a cancer, he can't stay healthy so they won't get anything higher than a 3rd for him. Might as well keep him, he's uber talented.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
I agree about Bowe getting resigned and I'm ok with giving Baldwin ONE MORE YEAR to show us something but at this point I don't mind writing him off, either. We can just pretend we took Houston in the first round and pretend Baldwin never existed. |
Quote:
|
I want Bowe re-signed and get Maclin in the FA market. That saves us from having to draft one where it could go to other positions of need. Maclin would give us the speed receiver we are missing.
|
Quote:
|
Breaston is a former 1,000-yard WR who had 61 catches his first year in KC...but he's "nothing."
Breaston will probably start next year and have 1,000 yards. |
I'd love for us to go after Jared Cook though........that's if the Titans don't give him a new contract.
|
oh shit sorry Scott Free
I misread your post. I thought it said he's not big on receivers...missed the second big. |
Quote:
but cool, if he goes for 1000 yards than yay yay yay yay I just think he's washed up. |
Receivers are secondary to quarterbacks. Great QB's make it work whoever they are throwing to. Everything, really, is secondary to the QB, and Reid clearly gets that, which is why this is such a good hire.
|
Bowe and Maclin, with Breaston in the slot and DMC being whatevada**** DMC does. I have a feeling Reid is going to try his hand with DMC though.
|
Reid definitely has some weaknesses
doesn't run the ball enough time clock management is suspect not as good at the player personnel part as he is at coaching doesn't seem to be able to take the 'next step' He isn't like marty shottenheimer but still |
Lol...he's the Peoples Choice Coach/GM. When he fails...An-dy will...it's the fans fault. Point the finger at yourself.
|
Quote:
|
Meh. I'm indifferent about DMC. He's been handicapped with shitty QB's his entire career so maybe a good QB can make him effective...but he's still a midget and I still haven't seen anything other than a very rare occasional flash.
and he is a shit returner to boot |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
What did the Bears give for Marshall? Two 3rds? I doubt a WR in his last year of his contract that has a sketchy resume cluttered with missed games and health issues is worth much more than a conditional 5th...if he gets 1000 yards it can graduate to a 3rd. I'm ok with that. |
Quote:
If he came for a fifth, ****, I'd do that in a HB. |
and I also think Jamaal Charles is a better Brian Westbrook than Brian Westbrook and it seems like Reid's best years were when Westbrook was an absolute beast...
I also think Scott left us with an offensive line chalked full of potential, which helps. If he did two things right it was offensive line and the incredibly, ridiculous AMAZING team friendly contract he got Charles to ink. |
Quote:
Me? Being the pessimist (and realist) I am about draft picks and 3rd round picks and lower...I'd do it for a 3rd in a heartbeat. Worst case scenario? He gets injured again and doesn't pan out. At least he's a good locker room guy PLUS he's a local guy. |
Quote:
There is a certain effect of running the ball regardless of yards gain that leads to a more productive offense ... less QB hits,more ToP etc. throwing the ball even though you need to burn clock etc |
Quote:
|
I'll hang around for a bit more. Good chatting with Chiefs fans.
If anyone has any questions about Reid, feel free to ask. I'm really happy for him and that he landed in a place where he got everything he wanted. This was a tough last calender year for him. Losing his son being obviously the worst of it. |
Quote:
I just really wanna get Albert and Bowe re signed. You can fill some holes in the draft, but I actually like filling holes better with free agency. You have to combine BPA with position of need in the draft, which is something I don't think Scott ever got down. |
Quote:
|
our #1 priority should be getting Bowe signed long term without using the tag...and then tagging Albert if necessary.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
And this is a great board for football talk. |
WOW, he comes with Kung Fu grip, a super secret walrus layer, and 3 designer mustaches. COOL!!!!
|
BradBigglestein is already my vote for n00b of the year.
|
Quote:
His splits are about 45% run over the length of his career. That's PLENTY. |
Quote:
at it's also about knowing WHEN to run it. i've already said i like the hire but you are going to have Chiefs fans screaming 'just run the ball!!!' several times throughout Reid's tenure. |
Here's what to expect:
Good QB play, an offense scoring a lot of points and a defense that gets pressure on the QB. WTF else could we want? This is going to be AWESOME |
Quote:
He has ran the ball 45% of snaps in his career. And to that effect, he hasnt' been the primary playcaller. |
|
In other words, Andy Reid SUCKS!!
|
The more I think about the Reid hiring, the more excited I get about it.
I think the chances of retaining the talent on this team like Bowe and Albert has increased tremendously along with getting a QB. |
Quote:
Andy Reid uses his primary back just as much as every other team in the league. What Andy Reid doesn't do is hand the ball off to Dexter McCluster on 3rd and 8 or run a toss sweep to Payton Hillis. He values playmakers. He won't run the ball just to run the ball, that's just stupid. |
The fact that the walrus knows this is a passing league and that throwing the ball well and defending the pass well are key components is a major upgrade to the shit we've been fed for the past decade. DV had it half right.
|
Quote:
All of them can be lethal out of the backfield in the 'extended' run game, and I believe THAT is what Reid truly wants from his RBs. |
Good read.
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:18 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.