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Frankie 01-05-2013 06:39 PM
Show me your NFL analytical prowess.
 
Among the AFC teams in the playoffs, who matches up best against Denver? Why?

lewdog 01-05-2013 06:40 PM
The Chiefs. Because we play a top notch 3-4.

We are in the playoffs, right?

DaKCMan AP 01-05-2013 06:41 PM
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siberian khatru 01-05-2013 06:42 PM
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TribalElder 01-05-2013 06:43 PM
JJ Watt snaps necks with his bionic elbow

McHoodie has been filming the practices tho so it's a toss up

chop 01-05-2013 06:44 PM
It will be interesting if they face the Colts and the Colts win.

I think Houston (if they are on their game) has the best chance to beat them.

milkman 01-05-2013 06:44 PM
This is easy.

New England.

Why?

Because of Tom Brady.

lewdog 01-05-2013 06:45 PM
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Pasta Little Brioni 01-05-2013 06:45 PM
Tom Terrific and BB.

Mother****erJones 01-05-2013 06:47 PM
Tom Brady will outplay Peyty Pie yet again

RunKC 01-05-2013 06:48 PM
Patriots are the best chance to beat them, but they have't played well in Denver in the playoffs and Manning is on fire.

I hope they beat them though.

If the Broncos win another SB I'm going to be so pissed.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2013 06:49 PM
Just do a search on my posts starting mid 2011.

milkman 01-05-2013 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chop (Post 9285999)
It will be interesting if they face the Colts and the Colts win.

I think Houston (if they are on their game) has the best chance to beat them.
Houston only has a chance if they can get pressure on Manning, and through the last 6 weeks or so, the only guy that has been able to get pressure consistently is JJ Watt.

If they can't get pressure, their back end is suspect, at best, and Manning will shred them.

if that happens, the Texans offense can not keep up with the Donkey offense.

CoMoChief 01-05-2013 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9286024)
Patriots are the best chance to beat them, but they have't played well in Denver in the playoffs and Manning is on fire.

I hope they beat them though.

If the Broncos win another SB I'm going to be so pissed.
They won't. There's not a team in the AFC that is going to be able to beat ATL or Green Bay who's now starting to get healthy at the right time.

slimdagreat 01-05-2013 06:55 PM
They've already lost to NE and Houston but I think NE gives them the biggest challenge.

Shaid 01-05-2013 07:05 PM
New England. Donkey's aren't making it to the SuperBowl. Take out their AFC West wins(for obvious reasons) and their record doesn't look too good. They are good but not what the media makes them out to be.

Frankie 01-05-2013 07:05 PM
Remember, this is not a question of the best roster talent. It's a question of match ups at crucial positions. I hope someone here can break that down for me.

I agree with those saying NE until I see a good argument against them. Which means I have to root for a team I'm sick and tired of to go to another SB over one I hate.

Exoter175 01-05-2013 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9286001)
This is easy.

New England.

Why?

Because of Tom Brady.
Boom, have Peyton send this man a free pizza.

Exoter175 01-05-2013 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9286051)
They won't. There's not a team in the AFC that is going to be able to beat ATL or Green Bay who's now starting to get healthy at the right time.
The Pats would ****ing SHRED Atlanta and/or Green Bay, you serious?

Its going to be a Ryan/Brady Bowl, and the Brady Experience will ****ing shine.

Dartgod 01-05-2013 07:14 PM
**** the Broncos.

threebag 01-05-2013 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9286006)
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FlaChief58 01-05-2013 07:28 PM
Tom Brady

Pin Head 01-05-2013 08:07 PM
NE...their TEs are really good and the Broncos, as always, get burned by TEs. Brady will not be able to run that really up tempo BS at Mile High though. I see a lot of false starts, delay of game penalties, and Brady hissy fits if the crowd is as loud as it should be.

If they can keep Brady clean he's a dandy. I don't see him staying clean against the Broncos pass rush, infact, I see Von Miller and Dumervile getting inside Brady's head and kicking walls in.

FlaChief58 01-05-2013 08:21 PM
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lewdog 01-05-2013 08:26 PM
Only AIDS can beat the Broncos.

Pin Head 01-05-2013 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9286436)
Only AIDS can beat the Broncos.
Thisness.

RunKC 01-05-2013 08:32 PM
Last time the Broncos played the Patriots, they couldn't stop Brady or that offense at all.

Jack Del Rio got his ass handed to him last time they played. It's all about how well the Pats defense handles Manning.

O.city 01-05-2013 08:33 PM
I think I've figured out who Blackbob is.


Pretty sure he's a mult of another poster on here.

30yr fan 01-05-2013 08:35 PM
Go Pats!!!!

jspchief 01-05-2013 09:28 PM
All 3 of Denver's losses came against teams they could face again in the post season. They also all came relatively early in the season.

Denver's rushing D is 3rd in yards per game, and 2nd in yards per attempt
Denver's pass D leads the league in sacks and is 5th in yards per completion

This team isn't just Manning. Like it or not, they are a tough out. If Houston can run, and Watt can harass Manning, they have a chance. If Brady is on, he can beat them. But right now, I wouldn't bet against them.

Exoter175 01-05-2013 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9286733)
All 3 of Denver's losses came against teams they could face again in the post season. They also all came relatively early in the season.

Denver's rushing D is 3rd in yards per game, and 2nd in yards per attempt
Denver's pass D leads the league in sacks and is 5th in yards per completion

This team isn't just Manning. Like it or not, they are a tough out. If Houston can run, and Watt can harass Manning, they have a chance. If Brady is on, he can beat them. But right now, I wouldn't bet against them.

Keep in mind that the Patriots completely dismantled the Texans less than a month ago-ish, and it was Brutal. The Brady-Manning Bowl will never be a bad game, I just don't think Denver can out coach BB and Brady.

DaneMcCloud 01-05-2013 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 9286082)
New England. Donkey's aren't making it to the SuperBowl. Take out their AFC West wins(for obvious reasons) and their record doesn't look too good. They are good but not what the media makes them out to be.
Th won 13 ****ing games and are on an 11 game win streak.

You're ****ing stupid if you think they're a media fabrication.

threebag 01-05-2013 09:42 PM
AFCW that is 6 Easy wins

jspchief 01-05-2013 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286750)
Keep in mind that the Patriots completely dismantled the Texans less than a month ago-ish, and it was Brutal. The Brady-Manning Bowl will never be a bad game, I just don't think Denver can out coach BB and Brady.
Yeah, I don't see the AFCCG being anything other than NE/Den. But Denver is the more complete team. Brady will have to be at his best to beat them in Denver

Exoter175 01-05-2013 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9286809)
Yeah, I don't see the AFCCG being anything other than NE/Den. But Denver is the more complete team. Brady will have to be at his best to beat them in Denver
More complete? Maybe the Pats homer in me is too strong, but I believe the Patriots offense is about 35 times more complete and effective than Denver's.

If you shut down two players in the Broncos offense, you can basically stymie their "Big play" ability.

Not to mention with Gronk back, they've become even MORE complete.

jspchief 01-05-2013 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 9286799)
AFCW that is 6 Easy wins
It is. And you could argue that it's padded their statistical rankings as well. The 2 toughest opponents they've faced in the 2nd half of the season are Baltimore and Cincy, and both those wins came at Denver.

I do think teams can keep it close with Denver. They don't have the ability to blow your doors off like NE can.

milkman 01-05-2013 09:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286823)
More complete? Maybe the Pats homer in me is too strong, but I believe the Patriots offense is about 35 times more complete and effective than Denver's.

If you shut down two players in the Broncos offense, you can basically stymie their "Big play" ability.

Not to mention with Gronk back, they've become even MORE complete.
Complete includes defense as well as offense.

The Pats are still a mediocre defense, while the Donkeys are a top 5 D.

jspchief 01-05-2013 09:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286823)
More complete? Maybe the Pats homer in me is too strong, but I believe the Patriots offense is about 35 times more complete and effective than Denver's.

If you shut down two players in the Broncos offense, you can basically stymie their "Big play" ability.

Not to mention with Gronk back, they've become even MORE complete.
Denver is top 5 in offense and defense. New England's defense is not as good. Period.

As for the Pats O being more complete... not IMO, at least not by much. It's certainly more explosive, and they have more weapons, but both teams rely heavily on the passing game.

Exoter175 01-05-2013 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9286832)
Complete includes defense as well as offense.

The Pats are still a mediocre defense, while the Donkeys are a top 5 D.
The Patriots offense is more dynamic, more explosive than the Denver offense. Denver has yet to beat teams this year that are actually legit contenders. The Patriots just stomped out Houston who at the time, was the #1 team in the AFC.
The Patriots will have no issue bringing the "game" to the Broncos, and in games like these, it doesn't matter if the Pats have a Defense, you will never completely shut down Peyton. More importantly is that you successfully scheme against him. BB happens to be the best schemer in the league.
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9286840)
Denver is top 5 in offense and defense. New England's defense is not as good. Period.

As for the Pats O being more complete... not IMO, at least not by much. It's certainly more explosive, and they have more weapons, but both teams rely heavily on the passing game.
It doesn't matter where they ranked as a team, because they did not play that many common opponents. If you want an accurate ranking, look at the common opponents. I'm sure the Patriots will look much better than they currently do statistically.

And again, the Pats won't have to stop Peyton, they just have to slow him down. The Patriots will have no problem dicing up the Denver defense and scoring at will. BB will make sure of that.

BUt you'd be a fool to think Denver with Decker, Thomas, and who? Stokley/Tamme? is better than Welker, Gronk, Hernandez, Lloyd, Woodhead, and company.

Pats offense > Denver offense. DID YOU SEE how many points the pats put up this year?

MagicHef 01-05-2013 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9286828)
It is. And you could argue that it's padded their statistical rankings as well. The 2 toughest opponents they've faced in the 2nd half of the season are Baltimore and Cincy, and both those wins came at Denver.

I do think teams can keep it close with Denver. They don't have the ability to blow your doors off like NE can.
I didn't know M&T Bank Stadium was in Denver. I also don't know why it matters, since the playoffs go through Denver.

milkman 01-05-2013 10:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286862)
The Patriots offense is more dynamic, more explosive than the Denver offense. Denver has yet to beat teams this year that are actually legit contenders. The Patriots just stomped out Houston who at the time, was the #1 team in the AFC.
The Patriots will have no issue bringing the "game" to the Broncos, and in games like these, it doesn't matter if the Pats have a Defense, you will never completely shut down Peyton. More importantly is that you successfully scheme against him. BB happens to be the best schemer in the league.


It doesn't matter where they ranked as a team, because they did not play that many common opponents. If you want an accurate ranking, look at the common opponents. I'm sure the Patriots will look much better than they currently do statistically.

And again, the Pats won't have to stop Peyton, they just have to slow him down. The Patriots will have no problem dicing up the Denver defense and scoring at will. BB will make sure of that.

BUt you'd be a fool to think Denver with Decker, Thomas, and who? Stokley/Tamme? is better than Welker, Gronk, Hernandez, Lloyd, Woodhead, and company.

Pats offense > Denver offense. DID YOU SEE how many points the pats put up this year?
You can slow the Patriot offense down if you can get consistent pressure on Tom Brady, and I believe, though I haven't checked, that the Donkeys led the league in sacks.

threebag 01-05-2013 10:09 PM
I don't care who it is I just don't want the broncos in the Super Bowl.

jspchief 01-05-2013 10:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9286862)
It doesn't matter where they ranked as a team, because they did not play that many common opponents. If you want an accurate ranking, look at the common opponents. I'm sure the Patriots will look much better than they currently do statistically.

And again, the Pats won't have to stop Peyton, they just have to slow him down. The Patriots will have no problem dicing up the Denver defense and scoring at will. BB will make sure of that.

BUt you'd be a fool to think Denver with Decker, Thomas, and who? Stokley/Tamme? is better than Welker, Gronk, Hernandez, Lloyd, Woodhead, and company.

Pats offense > Denver offense. DID YOU SEE how many points the pats put up this year?
Yeah I saw how many points they put up. and Denver was 2nd in the league.

And since you are reading comprehension impaired, I never said Denver was a better offense. I said I don't think NE's offense is significantly more complete. Neither team is overly scary running the ball.

Look, I think NE has a good chance of beating Denver, and if Brady's "on" it could be a massacre. But I see a lot of people underestimating Denver and the fact that it's at Incestco. Brady is not infallible. Hell, KC has given the guy some tough games over the years. If he isn't able to settle into the pocket, he can be rattled. and Denver happens to be very good at getting to the QB.


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