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ShowtimeSBMVP 01-08-2013 06:24 PM

Would you take Rob Ryan as DC ?
 
Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly

RT @BrianCoz: Not sure if this is out there but I just heard the Cowboys have fired Rob Ryan.

JoeyChuckles 01-08-2013 06:25 PM

Too fat / me

htismaqe 01-08-2013 06:25 PM

Um, yeah?

The Bad Guy 01-08-2013 06:26 PM

Well that's certainly interesting.

doomy3 01-08-2013 06:27 PM

For sure.

-King- 01-08-2013 06:28 PM

Only if there was no other choice.

SAUTO 01-08-2013 06:28 PM

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Chiefs247 01-08-2013 06:29 PM

Yea I would, reminds me of Romeo a little bit. Good DC, not so good HC.

Those 4 letters in between can really mess a brother up.

The Bad Guy 01-08-2013 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs247 (Post 9297594)
Yea I would, reminds me of Romeo a little bit. Good DC, not so good HC.

Rob Ryan has never been a HC.

YayMike 01-08-2013 06:32 PM

Maybe its just me, but i'm not impressed with Rob Ryan

-King- 01-08-2013 06:32 PM

If that rumor about Lovie Smith is true, I'd rather have him than Rob even though it would mean we would have to switch to the 4-3 which I don't want to do.

The Bad Guy 01-08-2013 06:32 PM

He seems to be cursed as a DC. His teams never make the playoffs.

The Bad Guy 01-08-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9297621)
If that rumor about Lovie Smith is true, I'd rather have him than Rob even though it would mean we would have to switch to the 4-3 which I don't want to do.

For the record, I couldn't get an ounce of confirmation that the Chiefs are interested in Lovie.

-King- 01-08-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs247 (Post 9297594)
Yea I would, reminds me of Romeo a little bit. Good DC, not so good HC.

Those 4 letters in between can really mess a brother up.

He's never been a good HC and Romeo is a better DC than him.

Archie F. Swin 01-08-2013 06:34 PM

I don't see any other media reporting this....

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-08-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9297634)
I don't see any other media reporting this....

ESPNDallas ‏@ESPNDallas

Source: #Cowboys fire Rob Ryan. More to come.

-King- 01-08-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9297625)
For the record, I couldn't get an ounce of confirmation that the Chiefs are interested in Lovie.

I didn't really believe that rumor either. No offense to the SoC guys, but I don't trust anything they say.

saphojunkie 01-08-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9297634)
I don't see any other media reporting this....

It's on ESPN.com.

Oh, and I will be the first to say an unequivocal hell yes on Rob Ryan.

Brock 01-08-2013 06:37 PM

Gunther with a wig and a fatsuit

The Bad Guy 01-08-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9297644)
I didn't really believe that rumor either. No offense to the SoC guys, but I don't trust anything they say.

Ha, I gave them a lot of what I posted on here.

Marty has good sources.

Deberg_1990 01-08-2013 06:38 PM

Rex yes, Rob no

DaKCMan AP 01-08-2013 06:38 PM

meh.

Rob Ryan DC pts against rankings

Oakland
2004 - 31
2005 - 25
2006 - 18
2007 - 26
2008 - 24

Cleveland
2009 - 21
2010 - 13

Dallas
2011 - 16
2012 - 24

Archie F. Swin 01-08-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9297640)
ESPNDallas ‏@ESPNDallas

Source: #Cowboys fire Rob Ryan. More to come.


hmmm...DMN on twitter gets the fail whale then.


carry on, nothing to see here...

saphojunkie 01-08-2013 06:42 PM

Hmm, that's really interesting on the points against. Perhaps my unequivocal hell yes should have been tempered.

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2013 06:44 PM

Even though he runs a 3-4, he'd be about 10th on my list.

He just doesn't seem to have "it" when it comes to coordinating a defense.

tk13 01-08-2013 06:45 PM

That's just what we need. After years of too much ego at Arrowhead they finally clean house... so let's go hire one of the Ryan's. And not even the one that's had a lot of success coordinating a defense, let's go get the other one.

J Diddy 01-08-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 9297566)
Too fat / me

/omaha

RunKC 01-08-2013 06:48 PM

Hell no.

The Cowboys defense has been an overrated pile of fail with no direction under him.

We can do better.

dirk digler 01-08-2013 06:50 PM

no thanks

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9297693)
Hell no.

The Cowboys defense has been an overrated pile of fail with no direction under him.

We can do better.

Monte Kiffin wouldn't be better.

I hope it's neither of them.

the Talking Can 01-08-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9297654)
Gunther with a wig and a fatsuit

this

people think he's his brother...then they're like 'oh....'

buddha 01-08-2013 06:52 PM

I will be happy with the guy Andy wants. Reid is so plugged in...he knows who the great assistants and coordinators are.

Jimmya 01-08-2013 06:57 PM

One vote for Rob Ryan here!

Titty Meat 01-08-2013 06:57 PM

No hes never coached a defense to the playoffs.

RunKC 01-08-2013 06:58 PM

Jimmy Kempski ‏ @ Jimmy_Beast
In his 9 years as a defensive coordinator, none of Rob Ryan's teams have ever had a winning record.


This.

keg in kc 01-08-2013 06:58 PM

No thanks.

KC_Lee 01-08-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9297693)
Hell no.

The Cowboys defense has been an overrated pile of fail with no direction under him.

We can do better.

This, over and over. Still hoping it's Greene out of GB. I want Hulk Hogan Jr calling blitz packages for KC!!!!

okcchief 01-08-2013 07:02 PM

I'd rather have Ryan than Kiffin.

okcchief 01-08-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9297734)
Jimmy Kempski ‏ @ Jimmy_Beast
In his 9 years as a defensive coordinator, none of Rob Ryan's teams have ever had a winning record.


This.

Wow, maybe not then.

WV 01-08-2013 07:04 PM

No thanks.

RunKC 01-08-2013 07:07 PM

I would take Dick Jauron over Rob Ryan.

That's how much I don't want this guy.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-08-2013 07:08 PM

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

RT @espn_macmahon Rob Ryan confirms he's fired. "I'll be out of work for like 5 minutes," he said.



ROFL

EagleRob 01-08-2013 07:09 PM

Schefter just tweeted Ryan confirmed his firing saying, "I'll be out of work for five minutes"

Mother****erJones 01-08-2013 07:09 PM

San Diego Chargers hire Rob Ryan as HC ROFL

EagleRob 01-08-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9297772)
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

RT @espn_macmahon Rob Ryan confirms he's fired. "I'll be out of work for like 5 minutes," he said.



ROFL

If I wasn't dealing with iPad AutoCorrect I'da had you.

Mother****erJones 01-08-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleRob (Post 9297779)
If I wasn't dealing with iPad AutoCorrect I'da had you.

ROFL damn Apple AutoCorrect

Mother****erJones 01-08-2013 07:12 PM

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl
I guess he's not too pleased with Rob Ryan getting canned. RT @BruceCarter54: WTF!
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Mother****erJones 01-08-2013 07:16 PM

gregg rosenthal ‏@greggrosenthal
In terms of maximizing talent, Rob Ryan out-coached Jason Garrett 2 straight years. Not even close.
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Red Dawg 01-08-2013 07:16 PM

Ryan! Hell yes. That guy can run a defense. Goofy and shaggy as hell but he would a great fit.

mnchiefsguy 01-08-2013 07:21 PM

Thanks, but no thanks.

Sassy Squatch 01-08-2013 07:22 PM

25 ppg. Not so good.

Mr. Laz 01-08-2013 07:29 PM

In his 9 years as a DC, Rob Ryan has never had a winning record.

Hoover 01-08-2013 07:33 PM

I'd rather have Lovie Smith or Dick Jauron

crazycoffey 01-08-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9297833)
In his 9 years as a DC, Rob Ryan has never had a winning record.

So first response is, yikes! But just spitballing an idea here. Were those games lost because of defense or lack of offense. Oakland, Cleveland and Dallas. I'm thinking off the top of my head, was romo and Garrett offenses the last two years the best offenses for Ryan's defenses?

BlackHelicopters 01-08-2013 07:38 PM

Intriguing, but no thanks.

Shogun 01-08-2013 07:41 PM

Hell, No.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-08-2013 07:43 PM

**** NO !!!!

DaKCMan AP 01-08-2013 07:44 PM

People who want Ryan as DC don't watch football and just listen to the media hacks who are constantly on his jock.

Quesadilla Joe 01-08-2013 07:44 PM

He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
2011 - 16th
2012 - 24th

crazycoffey 01-08-2013 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9297869)
He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
2011 - 16th
2012 - 24th

Right, and the teams records were losing records. I admit right now I don't recall his d much in Oakland but they lost the games I did see from having no offense. Look at the chiefs d stats this year, true representation of Gibbs and his d, or because the o never got going?

Not trying to argue for Ryan, but I want to see a better arguement than this one

DaKCMan AP 01-08-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9297869)
He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
2011 - 16th
2012 - 24th

Q you stupid douche

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2013 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barney Stinson (Post 9297892)
Not trying to argue for Ryan, but I want to see a better arguement than this one

Ryan sucked in Dallas. The Cowboys "weak link" was supposedly their secondary, so Jones signed Carr and drafted the highest rated "safe" corner in LSU's Morris Claiborne.

The result was that Dallas gave up even more points than the previous year.

Ryan sucks.

mcaj22 01-08-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9297869)
He's overrated he has never coordinated a top 10 defense in points allowed...

Rob Ryan defensive points allowed rank

2004 - 31st
2005 - 25th
2006 - 18th
2007 - 26th
2008 - 24th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 13th
2011 - 16th
2012 - 24th

2004 - Kerry Collins
2005 - Kerry Collins
2006 - Andrew Walter/Aaron Brooks
2007 - Josh McCown/Dante Culpepper/Jamarcus Russel
2008 - Jamarcus Russell
2009 - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
2010 - Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace/Jake Delhomme
2011 - Tony Romo
2012 - Tony Romo


I'm not defending the guy but, that is a perfect counter argument because it doesnt get more dog shit than that list of QBs, and I mean, we know first hand what a defense with a season of Brady Quinn gives you so, if anything, Chiefs fans should be able to relate to Rob Ryan

mcaj22 01-08-2013 07:58 PM

and Rob Ryan's coaches

Lane Kiffin, Eric Mangini, Jason Garrett

I know Rob Ryan sucks but holy shit he has been with some absolute trash Head Coaches/QB tandems for 90 percent of DC resume

Quesadilla Joe 01-08-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9297922)
2004 - Kerry Collins
2005 - Kerry Collins
2006 - Andrew Walter/Aaron Brooks
2007 - Josh McCown/Dante Culpepper/Jamarcus Russel
2008 - Jamarcus Russell
2009 - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
2010 - Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace/Jake Delhomme
2011 - Tony Romo
2012 - Tony Romo


I'm not defending the guy but, that is a perfect counter argument because it doesnt get more dog shit than that list of QBs, and I mean, we know first hand what a defense with a season of Brady Quinn gives you so, if anything, Chiefs fans should be able to relate to Rob Ryan

Some of the best defensive teams in NFL history have had shit QB play. I don't buy that argument.

BossChief 01-08-2013 08:00 PM

I want an attacking defensive coordinator. These players are all made to play downhill and dictate the tempo of the game and forcing bad decisions.

I want no part of Kiffen or Rob Ryan because neither is aggressive enough.

cabinet247 01-08-2013 08:02 PM

hell to the yes........back to the 4 -3

mcaj22 01-08-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9297942)
Some of the best defensive teams in NFL history have had shit QB play. I don't buy that argument.

not first round QB bust after first round QB bust shit QB play though

id like to see you make a career as a DC with Jamarcus Russel and Brady Quinn

DaKCMan AP 01-08-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9297922)
2004 - Kerry Collins
2005 - Kerry Collins
2006 - Andrew Walter/Aaron Brooks
2007 - Josh McCown/Dante Culpepper/Jamarcus Russel
2008 - Jamarcus Russell
2009 - Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson
2010 - Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace/Jake Delhomme
2011 - Tony Romo
2012 - Tony Romo


I'm not defending the guy but, that is a perfect counter argument because it doesnt get more dog shit than that list of QBs, and I mean, we know first hand what a defense with a season of Brady Quinn gives you so, if anything, Chiefs fans should be able to relate to Rob Ryan


Horseshit! The Cowboys put up over 23ppg which was 15th both years. That is not even in the same universe as the Chiefs 13ppg (31st & 32nd). Ryan fielded a below average defense with an average offense.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-08-2013 08:10 PM

Never made the playoffs in 9 seasons as a DC...?

Sounds like he will fit right in.

PHOG 01-08-2013 08:11 PM

No

Idahojim 01-08-2013 08:11 PM

The Ryans
 
He's just like his brother and his father. The Ryans are all about themselves. Chiefs don't need that. Just went through a G.M. who had the same problem. Showboat coaches need not apply.

SAUTO 01-08-2013 08:12 PM

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Mr_Tomahawk 01-08-2013 08:13 PM

Lovie Smith is #1 on my list if he cant find a HC gig.

PunkinDrublic 01-08-2013 08:18 PM

I hate Rob Ryan with a passion. The guy has been a career failure as a DC yet runs his mouth like he's the greatest ever. Lucky for us Reid won't be stupid enough to hire that self promoting fraud.

Mother****erJones 01-08-2013 08:19 PM

Guy need a haircut. No thanks. I want an agressive but GOOD DC

stonedstooge 01-08-2013 08:20 PM

Sure would have thought he could have done better with having Ware as his cornerstone

chefsos 01-08-2013 08:21 PM

Even before he got to Dallas I always thought Rob Ryan was the perfect Cowboy: Overrated. And beyond that, overrated based on things he hadn't even done.

crazycoffey 01-08-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9297911)
Ryan sucked in Dallas. The Cowboys "weak link" was supposedly their secondary, so Jones signed Carr and drafted the highest rated "safe" corner in LSU's Morris Claiborne.

The result was that Dallas gave up even more points than the previous year.

Ryan sucks.

Does that take into account special teams scoring and offensive turnovers for scores?

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barney Stinson (Post 9298028)
Does that take into account special teams scoring and offensive turnovers for scores?

As far as I know, it's just defensive points only.

Regardless, the defense definitely took a step back after adding two highly sought after cornerbacks, which I'm sure played a major role into why he was fired.

That defense has a lot of talent.


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