WalterFootball mocks 2013
 

updated with latest - Feb 27th

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

1. Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

2. Kansas City Chiefs: Margus Hunt, DE/DT, SMU

3. Kansas City Chiefs: Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State

4. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas

He has Xavier Rhodes going #51 to the Redskins and us taking Justin Hunter because we let Bowe go and then taking a CB in round 3... :facepalm:

**** this ****ing guy.

Instead of a WR in round two I don't know why we don't take a TE like Zach Ertz.

Especially if we manage to trade out of #1 and get another early second round pick.

It's been a while since we've had a TE we can count on.

I don't think Rhodes will make it to us at 2.2....but if he does we have to take him, IMO.

I love Justin Hunter and would JIMP if we took him, provided that we don't take him ahead of Rhodes.

I'm not terribly worried. Reid has always focused on the same areas I prefer we focus on (QB, LT, Pass Rushers and CBs) so I'm fairly confident that he'll put together a draft that I like.

I think we should tag Albert and trade him to the Eagles for their 2nd. My dream scenario:

Restructure Jackson's contract, Re-sign Colquitt & Pitoitua, Sign Wallace (WR, Steelers), Vick, and Rodgers-Cromartie.

Draft
1a. Joeckel (LT, Texas A&M) - could be best LT in the league someday
1b. Barkley (QB, USC) - trade up with 4th and 6th, good fit for west coast offense
2. Hunt (DE, SMU) - JJ Watt measurables, drops due to rawness and age
3a. Brown (ILB, Kansas St) - Belcher's replacement
3b. Lattimore (RB, South Carolina) - value pick

DIAF

Nice first post...

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Whoa. I had no idea draftplanet was actually active.

That's your DREAM scenario?

Do you often dream of getting fist-****ed by midgets, too?

ROFLROFLROFL

If I'm going off of that mock....I'd rather see. *I'm also including a comp 3rd for Carr.

1. Geno Smith, QB
2. Xavier Rhodes, CB
3. Da'Rick Rogers, WR
3. Zac Dysert, QB
4. Phillip Thomas, S

Oh god... Now look what you've done. I have to go change pants. #creamedinmajeans.

And one without a WR and a 2nd QB.

1. Geno Smith, QB
2. Xavier Rhodes, CB
3. Chase Thomas, DE/OLB
3. William Gholston, DE/DT, Michigan State
4. Phillip Thomas, S

I think that when everything is said and done, Rhodes will likely be gone in the first round, jumping over Mississippi State Jon Banks. Milliner will likely go to the Lions, and won't fall past the Titans. After that, Rhodes' combination of size and downfield speed and nastiness is going to be hard to pass on for a team like the Bucs.

However, I think that both Banks and Amerson are potential studs at the #2 CB slot. Both long, big guys with a superb nose for the ball. Banks is one of the most fluid CB's I've seen in a long time at the college level, and Amerson has a ridiculous nose for the ball. He tried to do a little too much this season in attempting to match his junior year numbers and got burned for it a couple of times, but he's ridiculously talented.

Both are really good press coverage guys who play really long against the thrown ball. Both will come up hard in run support as well.

Updating today.

I'll update this when he finishes our 4th round pick.

Gholston is a beast. I'm not sure he last that long.

Ummm...he had a pretty average year in 2012.

I'm telling you, if you want a guy of that size with a motor, Utah's Joe Kruger is your guy. He just declared for the draft and is 6'7", 280 lbs. and led the Utes in sacks this past season. Utah defensive guys are very well coached and come into the league prepared to play.

Gholston didn't have a very good pass rushing year. Has the tools, but didn't develop.

That whole team had a down year really.

Definitely agree on Kruger though.

He's not going to be a top-end pass rusher. He's more of a plugger.

Yeah, and I assume he would play DE here? I'd like to find a little more pass rush up there.

He's provide more pass rush than Dorsey and Jackson.

Keep in mind that even in a 1-gap, you're not gonna get double-digit sacks from DE very often.

I know. I like Gholston, quite a bit.

I think he's a solid DE in the 34. I'm just looking for that next Keisel or Watt.

Keisel <<< Watt

4th round unchanged

Walter Cherepinsky ‏@walterfootball

An NFL general manager tells @AnthonyLGargano that he would take #WVU @GenoSmith_12 with his No. 1 pick. Should go to #Chiefs or #Eagles

If we were really going to tag and trade Albert, we would have to get two firsts for him per the new cba. It's a longshot but, I think St. Louis is the team that would do it. They need a LT bad and they aren't going to get one with the 16th or 22nd picks. Also, KC would have to be dead set in taking Joeckel #1. The trade would have to happen before the draft imo.

This is what I would like to happen in the first four rounds.

1. QB
2. CB (Need a number 2 CB right behind Flowers)
3. WR (In Case we lose bowe to fa)
4. ILB (maybe a DE, who can replace Dorsey)

As a Washington Husky guy I'll chime in that I'm not a big fan of Desmond Trufant. I think he's living off of his name right now as a 3rd round pick. He's not his brother...

We should get another third round pick for Carr, and I'd like to see us take a safety.

In that case, how about:

1. Geno Smith
2. Tony Jefferson (we need another safety as bad as we need a CB, and there isn't a CB around this part of the draft as good as Jefferson. I also think we will bring in DRC)
3. Da'Rick Rogers
4. Kevin Reddick

Gonna go ahead and disagree with that.

I haven't watched college football as much this year as I have in the past.

I have watched every geno Smith game but 2, and watched all of Tyler Wilson's games that have aired here, as well as all of Matt Barkley's game.

Which leads me to this question.

Who would be the best available strong safety so that we could move Berry to free?

Don't know too much onKevin Reddick or Da'Rick Rodgers before as I have never seem them play. However, I'm loving the Geno Smith and Tony Jefferson picks for round one and two. If we did bring DRC, I would like this pick of Tony Jefferson. I'm still kinda hoping one of the good CB's will fall out of the first round.

we need to nail the 2nd pick Flowers style....not McCluster style

the perk of losing ass loads of games is that you basically have 2 firsts...they have to be 2 starters

Lester from Bama and Williams from Georgia are both good and project to go in the 3rd round. They are both thumpers. It's a pretty weak class for strong safeties. I would be suprised if one went in the first two rounds.

I would also be suprised if they move Berry. He's made the pro bowl as a SS both years he's played. I think the new staff won't screw with him as much as Romeo did last year. I think they'll let him just line up like a normal SS rather than blitz all the time and move all over the place. He plays the run better than any SS in the game imo.

We would be better served to take Rambo, FS, from Georgia in the second or third imo. He would be a first rounder if he hadn't gotten in trouble. He's a ball hawk and he can hit. Also, FS is much deeper than SS in this class.

QB and a CB at 1 and 2 would certainly fill the biggest holes on the team. Sign a mid priced ILB to play thumper and a safety in FA and you've gone a long way towards winning.

We have a few holes and Hunt has the money. So, no need to make new holes that need to waste draft picks on. Sign Albert and Bowe.

If we can walk away from draft with upgrades at QB, CB, S, ILB, DE and Oline and WR depth = homerun.

Very classy. Would not be upset at all if we grab this kid at the top of rd 2. I doubt he lasts that long..

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I think Floyd might be the best 34 DE prospect in the draft. He's there in the second, along with a top end Cb, it's gonna be a hard choice, IMO.

Yep. I'm torn between whether I'd take Floyd or Rhodes at the top of rd 2. I don't think either will be there, however.

we need a corner worse than another d lineman. If you've got 'em rated anywhere close, you take the corner.

This. I am hoping this is exactly how they approach the offseason. I'd like to see them draft a safety in round 3 or 4 as well.

Dorsey and Jackson will likely both be gone...Unless they are able towork something out with both of them...We need DL again.

Best case scenario is Matt Elam from Florida falling to the top of the 2nd. Partial to Jefferson from OU, similar type player as Berry, but he kind of faded towards the end of the season. Played poorly in the Cotton bowl. Looked slow, but he has been dealing with injuries. Interested to see him at the combine.

Honestly, think it might be better to address the back 7 thru FA and draft for depth. Anything to get Lewis and Brown off the field.

3-4 DEs can be drafted late. Hell, you can find good ones as UDFA.

Yeah true.

However, if Hunt is what everyone says he is or will be, if he were there in the second I'd think about taking him.

Quote:

For nearly 10 years, Bruce Feldman, a writer for CBSSports.com, has annually compiled what he calls a "Freak List" of the 10 college football players he considers the most freakish athletes. In 2012, Hunt was on top of his list. According to Feldman, Hunt "sounds like a PlayStation football creation"—despite his 82-inch (2.1 m) wingspan, he is able to bench press 225 pounds (102 kg) 35 times, and has also cleaned 384 pounds (174 kg) and snatched 345 pounds (156 kg). Hunt also boasts a 36-inch (91 cm) vertical jump. Wollman predicts that Hunt will have 45 repetitions and a 4.6-second 40-yard dash at the 2013 NFL combine

However, I'd much rather have a starting CB in the second and someone like Joe Kruger in the fourth/fifth. There is going to be a really good CB sitting there with that second round pick.

Yeah, CB is a need.


TBH, if we were to sign Talib in free agency, I woudln't be upset.

updated on 23rd...late round changes

1. Geno Smith
2. Justin Hunter

3. Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Glenn Dorsey will be a free agent in March and Tyson Jackson is due more than $14 million next year, so it appears as though their disappointing tenures in Kansas City are coming to an end.

4. Brandon Jenkins, DE/OLB, Florida State
The Chiefs don't have much depth behind Tamba Hali and Justin Houston - as they discovered in the Week 1 loss to Atlanta - so they could spend an early 2013 NFL Draft pick on a rush linebacker.

I would love to pick Datone Jones. However, I doubt he makes it to the 3rd.

new one up today
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php

Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
Scott Pioli was fired, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement was pushing for, and he's been replaced by Andy Reid and his staff. The question is whether Reid will take a shot on a quarterback or go the safe route with Luke Joeckel.

Chris Mortensen said Monday that he expects Joeckel to be the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, but has a feeling that Reid will select a quarterback - which means he expects him to trade down. I agree with Mort. I'm not sure about the moving down part - Kansas City will sure as hell try - but here's why Geno Smith will be the pick, barring any big acquisition in free agency:

1. New regimes mean new quarterbacks, and if history is any indication, Reid will use this pick on Smith. Reid eschewed all the top free-agent quarterbacks when he took over as the Eagles' head coach, taking a mobile, Big East product with a good deep ball and upside instead. Well, Smith is a mobile, (former) Big East product with a good deep ball and upside. He fits perfectly into Reid's offense.

2. ESPN and other outlets will tell you that Smith nor any other signal-caller is worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da'Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. It could be Smith, Matt Barkley or Mike Glennon. We'll see. Three months is a long time.

3. Think no one believes Smith is worth the No. 1 pick? Think again. Anthony Gargano of 94 WIP in Philadelphia revealed that he spoke to a general manager who told him that he would draft Smith with the first-overall selection. This is just one general manager, but if one GM wants Smith that badly, then there's a chance that several do. Smith has a ton of upside, so a quarterback-friendly coach like Reid might think he could coach him up to a Pro Bowl level.

4. My Chiefs' source, who has a high success rate of delivering Kansas City's first-round picks, told me Smith is currently the favorite to go No. 1 overall, but conceded that it's still too early in the process. He said that the combination of Joeckel and Tyler Wilson is also a strong possibility.

Ill take a play making WR over a CB any day of the week. You can win in this league with an average #2 CB.

Wowsers.:toast:

On Jarvis Jones falling (He has him going #17 in his latest mock):

:whackit: :whackit: :whackit:

That would be so sweet if he somehow fell to us at 34.

If he slips to 20 or so, I'd be on the phones trying to move up.

I'm not trading picks for Jones. Nobody knows how long he is good for.

If he slides to 34, fine take him. But don't give up picks to get him.

The reason I really wanted Mercilus last year was that he provided flexibility and supreme depth. Additionally, with the way Tamba plays he's probably due for an injury or a very quick drop off IMO once he hits the wall.

If Rhodes, Rambo, and Banks had already been taken in addition to most of the usual 1st round projections, I'd consider moving up for him.

I know it's probably not a popular opinion but I'd be very interested in Montgomery or Okafor for round 2 if either come in around 270.

Look at that 2nd round. JFC....

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013_2.php

Not sure I see Montgomery lasting that long.

Honestly, I care the most, BY FAR, about 1-1.

We need to take a QB. After that, I'm WIDE open and down for whatever.

Walter is full of shit about his high rate of success with Chiefs picks.

So... he has the Broncos taking Desmond Trufant in the first. Would trading for Revis take more than a #1 pick? If not, why not do that instead?

ROFL dude lmao everytime at your sig

What bugs me when someone says "trade down and get a QB"

Jacksonville Jaguars #2
Oakland Raiders #3
Cleveland Browns #6
Arizona Cardinals #7
Buffalo Bills #8
New York Jets #9

All in the top 10 right behind us who could draft a QB if some dumbass team in front of them decides to pass on the biggest need in the NFL.

Well the premise that makes them say trade down in the first place is that they don't respect any of the QB options. Hell, by saying trade down they are looking at QB desperate team like KC and not giving them the QB at their spot. Not surprising they they expect QBs to slip by these other teams. They don't respect these prospects and they don't seem to get how much teams want QBs in a league that demands you have a QB.

If Jarvis Jones is there at 20, then that means there is something seriously wrong with him according to that report.

I'm not giving up picks for him when we have Houston and Tamba. Jones doesn't fit in our defense with them here and Tamba surely has at least 3 more productive years.

No it's not even that, it's when they'll have teams right behind us draft a QB. They'll say Chiefs should trade down, with caption "because no QB is worth #1", then turn around and have a team right behind us in top 10 take a QB. An example is Ariz' caption "because they had the worst QB play and should fix QB problems"

It makes me say WTF? outloud.

I wouldn't rule the eagles out at 4, either.

Basically, 8 of the first 9 picks should be quarterback shopping.

Yeah, I've read a few places that think Chip Kelly will be looking for "his guy" to fit the style of offense he wants. Makes it even more crazy people talking a trade down.

Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in 1st in 30 years, and have never had the first pick. Gee, I wonder what's missing from this franchise?

One can only hope for all that is Holy we use it on Geno.

TOTALLY AGREE. 110%

I am not extremely familiar with Jarvis Jones' condition. However, look at Da'Quan Bowers. No one wanted to touch him, he ended up going 51st. Even with missing time due to injury, he has (according to PFF) outplayed every 4-3 DE taken ahead of him: Robert Quinn, Adrian Clayborn, Cameron Jordan, and Jabaal Sheard.

That's true. You get the "Chiefs need a QB but it would be a reach here" followed by a team at 3 or 4 getting the "they get value with QB here".

Jarvis Jones has spinal stenosis.

Bowers had a knee condition, IIRC.

According to PFF maybe.......

Jordan had 8 sacks and 66 tackles last year. Plus 3 fumbles forced.
Sheard had 7 sacks and 55 tackles last year. Plus 1 fumble forced.
Bowers had 3 sacks and 13 tackles last year. Zero fumbles forced.

Bowers played part time, he replaced Daniel Teo-Nesheim. He played 292 snaps, while Jordan played 1059 and Sheard played 1015.