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Mr. Laz 01-17-2013 09:04 PM

Horton angry about Arians hire
 
Ray Horton angry after Cardinals hire Bruce Arians

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 17, 2013, 9:53 PM EST
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AP
The Cardinals have hired Bruce Arians as their new head coach, and the in-house candidate who was passed over for Arians isn’t happy about it.

Ray Horton, the Cardinals defensive coordinator who did an excellent job in 2012 while the Cardinals’ offense fell apart, was considered a strong candidate to replace the fired Ken Whisenhunt as the next head coach. Instead, the Cardinals have announced that Arians, who spent last season as the Colts’ offensive coordinator and interim head coach, will get the job. Multiple reports say Horton was angry at that announcement.

Mike Jurecki of XTRA 910 reports that Horton had a heated exchange with new Cardinals General Manager Steve Keim when he found out that Arians got the job. Mike Garafolo of USA Today reports that Horton is “pissed.”

It’s hard to blame Horton for feeling that way. He’s a well regarded defensive coordinator who paid his dues as an assistant and before that as an NFL player for 10 years. In any line of work, to be passed over for a promotion you think you have coming stings.

Horton still has a year on his contract with the Cardinals, but Arians isn’t believed to want him to stay, and it sure doesn’t sound like Horton wants to stay. So Horton will presumably start looking for another job as an assistant, somewhere, after thinking he had a good chance of staying in Arizona and becoming the Cardinals’ next head coach.

Audit2 01-17-2013 09:07 PM

Can't blame the guy.

Deberg_1990 01-17-2013 09:08 PM

Lots of good coordinators have been passed over time and time again before they got their shot. Sounds like poor form.

-King- 01-17-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9329569)
Lots of good coordinators have been passed over time and time again before they got their shot. Sounds like poor form.

Sounds like he expected to get the job and was led on for 3 weeks. I'd be pissed too.

mcaj22 01-17-2013 09:13 PM

i think he was led on too,

i find it hard to believe it's just a coincidence they waited to do this and then all the HC vacancies got locked up, and now Horton is pretty much screwed over

he would have to leave to DC the Browns, that's his best option right now

hometeam 01-17-2013 09:21 PM

I don't blame him, he probably gave up other opportunities to stay home, and was likely led to believe the job was his.

DJ's left nut 01-17-2013 09:23 PM

So can we rethink the Sutton hire now?

Cephalic Trauma 01-17-2013 09:34 PM

Why is Ice T a DC for the Cardinals?

Ace Gunner 01-17-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9329556)
Ray Horton angry after Cardinals hire Bruce Arians

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 17, 2013, 9:53 PM EST
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.word...50x3.jpg?w=250
AP
The Cardinals have hired Bruce Arians as their new head coach, and the in-house candidate who was passed over for Arians isn’t happy about it.

Ray Horton, the Cardinals defensive coordinator who did an excellent job in 2012 while the Cardinals’ offense fell apart, was considered a strong candidate to replace the fired Ken Whisenhunt as the next head coach. Instead, the Cardinals have announced that Arians, who spent last season as the Colts’ offensive coordinator and interim head coach, will get the job. Multiple reports say Horton was angry at that announcement.

Mike Jurecki of XTRA 910 reports that Horton had a heated exchange with new Cardinals General Manager Steve Keim when he found out that Arians got the job. Mike Garafolo of USA Today reports that Horton is “pissed.”

It’s hard to blame Horton for feeling that way. He’s a well regarded defensive coordinator who paid his dues as an assistant and before that as an NFL player for 10 years. In any line of work, to be passed over for a promotion you think you have coming stings.

Horton still has a year on his contract with the Cardinals, but Arians isn’t believed to want him to stay, and it sure doesn’t sound like Horton wants to stay. So Horton will presumably start looking for another job as an assistant, somewhere, after thinking he had a good chance of staying in Arizona and becoming the Cardinals’ next head coach.

Where did this come from? Link please

Ace Gunner 01-17-2013 09:58 PM

forget it;

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-bruce-arians/

Ace Gunner 01-17-2013 10:04 PM

after reading those tweets etc, I'm thinking Reid would not want Horton here. Too much drama.

-King- 01-17-2013 10:11 PM

http://forums.azcardinals.com/showthread.php?t=64220

LMAO

Lex Luthor 01-17-2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9329587)
i think he was led on too,

i find it hard to believe it's just a coincidence they waited to do this and then all the HC vacancies got locked up, and now Horton is pretty much screwed over

he would have to leave to DC the Browns, that's his best option right now

Are you seriously implying that the Cardinals waited until all of the other HC vacancies were filled, JUST SO THEY COULD **** OVER HORTON?

You're ****ing reeruned.

siberian khatru 01-17-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9329718)

FLY A BANNER

hometeam 01-17-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300 Bowler (Post 9329725)
Are you seriously implying that the Cardinals waited until all of the other HC vacancies were filled, JUST SO THEY COULD **** OVER HORTON?

You're ****ing reeruned.

I wouldn't say that is all true, but my bet is they where stringing him along as a backup plan.

-King- 01-17-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300 Bowler (Post 9329725)
Are you seriously implying that the Cardinals waited until all of the other HC vacancies were filled, JUST SO THEY COULD **** OVER HORTON?

You're ****ing reeruned.

Or maybe to force him to stay as DC.

Garcia Bronco 01-17-2013 10:17 PM

Why do people think other people should be happy about losing?

RealSNR 01-17-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9329718)

I don't think some people around here realize that nearly all teams have True Fans. Not just the Chiefs.

-King- 01-17-2013 10:45 PM

Holy shit they're pissed LMAO http://forums.azcardinals.com/forumdisplay.php?f=23

RealSNR 01-17-2013 10:48 PM

Marty, pr_capone, and Flopnuts need to do a webinar on saving your favorite sports franchise. A few of those guys could easily get trained to do what we did.

Airplane banners and twitter. That's all it takes.

Ace Gunner 01-17-2013 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9329819)

"Just thought I would make the very first fire Arians thread! He's old ! This is the worst cards fans"

ROFL imbeciles

ArrowheadMagic 01-17-2013 10:52 PM

And people called Clark cheap.... Bidwell owns the copyright.

mcaj22 01-17-2013 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300 Bowler (Post 9329725)
Are you seriously implying that the Cardinals waited until all of the other HC vacancies were filled, JUST SO THEY COULD **** OVER HORTON?

You're ****ing reeruned.

the team publicly denied requests of other teams to interview him and clearly strung him along. he has a reason to be mad, especially now that all the other coaching vacancies are locked up.

it's a shitty cheap organization, they are paying their GM 750k, the lowest paid GM in the league for comparison we were paying Scooter 7 to 8 million to field the pile of shit he did.

DTLB58 01-18-2013 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9329919)
the team publicly denied requests of other teams to interview him and clearly strung him along. he has a reason to be mad, especially now that all the other coaching vacancies are locked up.

it's a shitty cheap organization, they are paying their GM 750k, the lowest paid GM in the league for comparison we were paying Scooter 7 to 8 million to field the pile of shit he did.

This exactly. Not only for Hc's but other DC positions. Not that, that's what he wanted, but it shows intent, One, how much he is wanted and two, now he can't get a HC job or the better DC jobs that were being offered first. At least let the guy choose where he wants to go. The team really restricted this guy.

To bad the Seahawks filled their DC position already he could have went there and kicked the Cards ass twice a year.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2013 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9329823)
Marty, pr_capone, and Flopnuts need to do a webinar on saving your favorite sports franchise. A few of those guys could easily get trained to do what we did.

Airplane banners and twitter. That's all it takes.

That's a phenomenal idea.

Except the Cards play in a dome.

:D

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2013 12:23 AM

Seriously? Who the **** cares.

In two years, Ray Horton will be only a footnote at CP, just like Todd Bowles was in 2009 and 2010.

Stop the ridiculous grandstanding.

DTLB58 01-18-2013 12:23 AM

If ever there was a time when Goodell could step in and pull a Stern ( not allow a player trade). I wish the Commish could have made the Cards hire Horton as HC just to piss this ownership off for what they did to him.

DTLB58 01-18-2013 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9329980)
Seriously? Who the **** cares.

In two years, Ray Horton will be only a footnote at CP, just like Todd Bowles was in 2009 and 2010.

Stop the ridiculous grandstanding.

So everyone is suppose to just stop giving our opinions because YOU say so?

Might as well close the BB and the Internet for that matter. Stop being an A** and go to bed if you don't agree. Geez.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2013 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9329986)
So everyone is suppose to just stop giving our opinions because YOU say so?

Might as well close the BB and the Internet for that matter. Stop being an A** and go to bed if you don't agree. Geez.

Oh, just shut the **** up.

Are you seriously whining because Horton is whining?

Are you?

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2013 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9329982)
If ever there was a time when Goodell could step in and pull a Stern ( not allow a player trade). I wish the Commish could have made the Cards hire Horton as HC just to piss this ownership off for what they did to him.

You're ****ing stupid

Gravedigger 01-18-2013 12:56 AM

I love how Arians is like, "It's a perfect fit for me." I'm not knocking Arians, I really hope he does well there, but this is all that was left. All these coaching openings, Bears, Eagles, etc were talking about bringing in Arians and then they all went in opposite directions even after he got out of the hospital and to his interviews. If I were a Cards fan I would think that the Cards settled because they couldn't get the coach they should've.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2013 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 9330036)
I love how Arians is like, "It's a perfect fit for me." I'm not knocking Arians, I really hope he does well there, but this is all that was left. All these coaching openings, Bears, Eagles, etc were talking about bringing in Arians and then they all went in opposite directions even after he got out of the hospital and to his interviews. If I were a Cards fan I would think that the Cards settled because they couldn't get the coach they should've.

I don't disagree but who should they have hired?

BryanBusby 01-18-2013 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9330040)
I don't disagree but who should they have hired?

Mike Zimmer

The fact he's not a Head Coach yet is a crime.

J Diddy 01-18-2013 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9329819)


They got their own KC Nut. AZ Nut?

http://forums.azcardinals.com/showthread.php?t=64237



The eagles was learning the wide 9 def that looks a lot like our def under Horton and didn't it take time for our def to gel under horton or did it gel ? but the eagles were learning it at mid season when the players pretty much quit we all heard that from some of the players on the eagles.

King_Chief_Fan 01-18-2013 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9330040)
I don't disagree but who should they have hired?

Good question....It sounds like the didn't have a plan B when KC sniped them and took Reid.

bevischief 01-18-2013 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9329602)
So can we rethink the Sutton hire now?

This.

chiefzilla1501 01-18-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9330065)
Mike Zimmer

The fact he's not a Head Coach yet is a crime.

Same deal as with Arians. When you are that successful for that long, yet your name never comes up, there's usually a reason why.

The nfl is a close fraternity. There are bad owners, but there are some real good ones too. The good ones obviously know something about Zimmer that's raising red flags. Same reason al Saunders and Ron Rivera struggled for so long to find head coaching gigs.

Chiefshrink 01-18-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9330065)
Mike Zimmer

The fact he's not a Head Coach yet is a crime.

There is and are reasons that are non-football related I'm sure.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-18-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9329823)
Marty, pr_capone, and Flopnuts need to do a webinar on saving your favorite sports franchise. A few of those guys could easily get trained to do what we did.

Airplane banners and twitter. That's all it takes.

We could work some shit out for them, but it'd have to be creative. For instance, black is one of their team colors. So is white. So we couldn't do a blackout, or a whiteout. It'd have to be like, a yellowout? LMAO

ct 01-18-2013 11:08 AM

he's out and available

Deberg_1990 01-18-2013 11:31 AM

Wouldnt surprise me if the league looked into this. Especially since there were no minority head coaching hires.

Sorter 01-18-2013 11:34 AM

Can we fire Sutton already? ROFL

TEX 01-18-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9330607)
Wouldnt surprise me if the league looked into this. Especially since there were no minority head coaching hires.

Teams are going more "offense" - especially with the rules the way they currently are. There are hardly any minority OC's out there (I can only think of Caldwell with Baltimore), which I bet is one of the main reasons for the lack of hires this year. I would not be surprised if they expand on the Rooney Rule and extend it to coordinators as well.

htismaqe 01-18-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9330311)
Same deal as with Arians. When you are that successful for that long, yet your name never comes up, there's usually a reason why.

The nfl is a close fraternity. There are bad owners, but there are some real good ones too. The good ones obviously know something about Zimmer that's raising red flags. Same reason al Saunders and Ron Rivera struggled for so long to find head coaching gigs.

Al Saunders had a head coaching gig, way back in the 80's.

He was a flake and an asshole, basically got blacklisted because of it.

Mr. Laz 01-18-2013 12:17 PM

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...NmOAWUTFR8es1g

don't give a shit ... suck it up.


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