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Stewie 01-26-2013 04:30 PM

Are you willing to pay for USA products?
 
I bought a new couch today that is high quality and 100% made in the USA. It's a Stickley, if you know the brand. They pay their workers well with full benefits. I could have bought a similar "looking" couch from Nebraska Furniture Mart for about 1/3 the price, but they sell crap.

There's also a clothing store in the KC area that sells jeans that are 100% USA made. The workers who fabricate the jeans from start to finish are well paid with full benefits. A pair costs $200.

Walmart recently said they're moving back to the Made in the USA when possible. That will be a rough road.

The question is: Do you support workers in the USA, or do you take advantage of cheap Asian labor?

cosmo20002 01-26-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9353260)
I bought a new couch today that is high quality and 100% made in the USA. It's a Stickley, if you know the brand. They pay their workers well with full benefits. I could have bought a similar "looking" couch from Nebraska Furniture Mart for about 1/3 the price, but they sell crap.

There's also a clothing store in the KC area that sells jeans that are 100% USA made. The workers who fabricate the jeans from start to finish are well paid with full benefits. A pair costs $200.

Walmart recently said they're moving back to the Made in the USA when possible. That will be a rough road.

The question is: Do you support workers in the USA, or do you take advantage of cheap Asian labor?

If the jeans are $200, then cheap Asian labor.

BigMeatballDave 01-26-2013 04:35 PM

Depends on what it is and what the price difference is?

jd1020 01-26-2013 04:36 PM

I buy w/e gives me the best bang for my buck.

WTH is left thats 100% American anyways?

notorious 01-26-2013 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9353284)
Depends on what it is and what the price difference is?

/thread

griZZly64 01-26-2013 04:39 PM

If its top quality and competitively priced I'll buy American. I'm not gunna shell out extra cash just for a "Made In USA" stamp.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-26-2013 04:39 PM

A lot of people say they will, just like a lot of people say that they despise illegal immigration, but they are perfectly fine reaping the benefits from those systems.

Chiefspants 01-26-2013 04:40 PM

Your voting options are rather extreme for this issue. I would buy American if I could, but seeing that I make about $100 a week (I'm a college student). I will probably have to rely on imported products for the immediate future.

BigMeatballDave 01-26-2013 04:43 PM

No ****ing way am I paying $200 for a pair of jeans.

Saulbadguy 01-26-2013 04:49 PM

I don't care. Why should I?

kcxiv 01-26-2013 04:49 PM

When someone lives paycheck to paycheck and is struggling its hard to ask them to pay for something thats way more expensive! It just dont work like that and it never will.

LIke what was said up above people talk shit about i immagrants getting jobs, but like my neighbor who is a labor contracter told me, they have to do the job because americans wont do it! Its just not gonna happen.

Ace Gunner 01-26-2013 04:52 PM

I've got a few properties spread around the country and I've been shopping for the home quite a lot the past few years, I miss american manufacturing quality in just about everything.

I have always bought american whenever possible. It has become very difficult to do now.

demonhero 01-26-2013 04:55 PM

$200 jeans hell no I won't go. If I'm buying for instance an American flag on the Fourth of July, I get the made in American one. If I'm getting towels that I'm going to wipe my ass with I get made in Paki or India.

DaFace 01-26-2013 05:02 PM

I'd pay a little more for something that was produced locally, but I'm not going to pay out the ass for it. The "THEY TOOK OUR JEERBS" people don't really understand how free markets work.

BlackHelicopters 01-26-2013 05:03 PM

I steal both American and foreign made goods.

Buehler445 01-26-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9353284)
Depends on what it is and what the price difference is?

Th-Th-Th-Th-This.

lewdog 01-26-2013 05:08 PM

If two products are sitting next to each other and one is American made and slightly more expensive than its foreign counterpart, but has similar quality, I don't mind paying a bit more.

But make me search harder for American made products and then **** me over at the register, no thanks.

GloryDayz 01-26-2013 05:13 PM

Mostly price, but quality and some homerism exists, but this administration is making that mindset more difficult to fund.

BucEyedPea 01-26-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9353260)
I bought a new couch today that is high quality and 100% made in the USA. It's a Stickley, if you know the brand. They pay their workers well with full benefits. I could have bought a similar "looking" couch from Nebraska Furniture Mart for about 1/3 the price, but they sell crap.

There's also a clothing store in the KC area that sells jeans that are 100% USA made. The workers who fabricate the jeans from start to finish are well paid with full benefits. A pair costs $200.

Walmart recently said they're moving back to the Made in the USA when possible. That will be a rough road.

The question is: Do you support workers in the USA, or do you take advantage of cheap Asian labor?

Neither. I, generally, am not a price only buyer. If I can get quality for a better price without too much hassle then that's what I'll do.

Some high end or designer products are still be made in China. For instance Dooney & Bourke purses are made in the US, Mexico, Italy as well as China. I still paid nearly $300 for mine on sale.

bevischief 01-26-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9353461)
If two products are sitting next to each other and one is American made and slightly more expensive than its foreign counterpart, but has similar quality, I don't mind paying a bit more.

But make me search harder for American made products and then **** me over at the register, no thanks.

This.

-King- 01-26-2013 05:19 PM

I don't even look at "Made in _____" when I buy things. It's really inconsequential to my buying decisions.

mikey23545 01-26-2013 05:42 PM

If I could find products with a label that said "made in the USA by non-union labor" I'd buy that every time.

penguinz 01-26-2013 05:46 PM

$200 for a pair of jeans is just stupid.

007 01-26-2013 05:46 PM

Surprise surprise, I go by price and quality every single time.

007 01-26-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 9353606)
$200 for a pair of jeans is just stupid.

That goes without saying. Anyone who pays that for a pair of jeans is stupid.

alnorth 01-26-2013 05:49 PM

Poll fail.

There is obviously a middle ground here. I am willing to pay a premium, but the premium I'm willing to pay depends on the product.

WhiteWhale 01-26-2013 05:53 PM

I think my biggest problem is that 'made in the USA', upon further inspection, often means 'made in Mexico'.

Still, yes... unless it's just an inferior product.

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-26-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9353287)
I buy w/e gives me the best bang for my buck.

WTH is left thats 100% American anyways?

A spoon fork... jeans that are made out of sweat pants... cheese that comes in a can...

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-26-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonhero (Post 9353377)
$200 jeans hell no I won't go. If I'm buying for instance an American flag on the Fourth of July, I get the made in American one. If I'm getting towels that I'm going to wipe my ass with I get made in Paki or India.

You wipe your ass with towels?

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-26-2013 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 9353636)
I think my biggest problem is that 'made in the USA', upon further inspection, often means 'made in Mexico'.

Still, yes... unless it's just an inferior product.

Mexico Missouri is a lovely place.

houstonwhodat 01-26-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9353287)
I buy w/e gives me the best bang for my buck.

WTH is left thats 100% American anyways?



Nothing.

Even Harley-Davidson has parts from Taiwan on it.

hometeam 01-26-2013 06:05 PM

This poll sucks. Who in the world buys only american or only by price?

houstonwhodat 01-26-2013 06:05 PM

Obama wasn't made in America.

WhiteWhale 01-26-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9353657)
Mexico Missouri is a lovely place.

I should have said "Made in America"

CrazyPhuD 01-26-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9353260)
The question is: Do you support workers in the USA, or do you take advantage of cheap Asian labor?

110% no I do no support workers in america. I buy quality whether that is made in the USA or made somewhere else does not matter.

Why the notion of made in the USA is a delusion and one that becomes a greater deception year after year.

Here is the truth, in the very near future, nothing, worldwide will be made by human hands at a production level. Everything will be made by machines, not because machines are always the 'best' but because machines are consistent. If you don't get the quality you want out of a process you find a new process and people are becoming very good at designing processes to mass produce consistent quality goods.

Bringing back manufacturing to the US will bring back few if any jobs. Machines will build the products not people.

Technology now is obsoleting jobs at record paces, you can either artificially employ people by forcing people to be employed doing jobs that are better suited to machines and make that business less competitive. Or you can change your educational system to prepare people for the reality of our near future employment.

I always say if you go into work and know how to do your job a machine can do it for you. Humans excel at dealing with the unpredictable, solving problems and creating new and novel things. That is what we must focus our educational system on. Enabling everyone to be able to compete in those jobs. If you don't, expect unemployment > 50% to be the rule not the exception.

So no I have a general rule I do not enable bad behavior. Something that says 'Made in the USA' has no bearing on if I buy it. The world is changing with technology and the sooner people realize that sooner they will be able to adapt to our future job market.

The simple rule is, if you want to be prepared for the future job market who cares where it was made. What you care, is where it was designed.

listopencil 01-26-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 9353492)
Some high end or designer products are still be made in China. For instance Dooney & Bourke purses are made in the US, Mexico, Italy as well as China. I still paid nearly $300 for mine on sale.

http://media.dtsph.com/sites/fox2now...bc6eb7d9c0.jpg

Rain Man 01-26-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever (Post 9353652)
You wipe your ass with towels?

It's a Pakistani thing.

Rain Man 01-26-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9353314)
No ****ing way am I paying $200 for a pair of jeans.

You have obviously never tried on the stunningly flattering yet utterly comfortable Alberto brand jeans.

Rain Man 01-26-2013 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9353260)
I bought a new couch today that is high quality and 100% made in the USA. It's a Stickley, if you know the brand. They pay their workers well with full benefits. I could have bought a similar "looking" couch from Nebraska Furniture Mart for about 1/3 the price, but they sell crap.

There's also a clothing store in the KC area that sells jeans that are 100% USA made. The workers who fabricate the jeans from start to finish are well paid with full benefits. A pair costs $200.

Walmart recently said they're moving back to the Made in the USA when possible. That will be a rough road.

The question is: Do you support workers in the USA, or do you take advantage of cheap Asian labor?


Ooooh, Stickley.

I'm not hugely into the mission style that is their signature, but they make some inlaid wood side tables that make me swoon in a manly manner.

Rain Man 01-26-2013 07:09 PM

Oh, and since I'm on a roll, I'll note that I buy based on value, not price or nationality. I like it when the best value is American.

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-26-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9353846)
Oh, and since I'm on a roll, I'll note that I buy based on value, not price or nationality. I like it when the best value is American.

Can close the thread now.

PornChief 01-26-2013 07:16 PM

On some other forum these guys sperged for days and days over how American harley davidsons are. That sure was entertaining.

Rasputin 01-26-2013 07:21 PM

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_Xn3SK9rSdQ?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


EVERYTHING IS MADE IN VAGINA er I mean EVERYTHING IS MADE IN CHINA!

Eternal consumption engine

Eternal consumption engine

Eternal consumption engine

cuz everything now a days is made in China

demonhero 01-26-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9353828)
It's a Pakistani thing.

and don't forget the little rags are for the armpit. Wet wipes for balls though.

RaiderH8r 01-26-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonhero (Post 9353377)
$200 jeans hell no I won't go. If I'm buying for instance an American flag on the Fourth of July, I get the made in American one. If I'm getting towels that I'm going to wipe my ass with I get made in Paki or India.

I just want the double ply stuff. Like crushed velvet on my cornhole. You can't get that kind of quality out of a union shop.

BWillie 01-26-2013 08:20 PM

Absolutely not. Im a big proponent of no minimum wage. I will gladly buy supplies made by sweatshops from china if it is of similar quality

Rasputin 01-26-2013 08:38 PM

I bought an American flag once and later found out it was MADE IN CHINA FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


EVERYTHING IS MADE IN CHINA EVERYTHING!

Rasputin 01-26-2013 08:39 PM

They took ur job

Phobia 01-26-2013 08:40 PM

Most your furniture is going to be American made anyway. Shipping bulky furniture is cost prohibitive.

But to answer your question, it depends on the product and dropoff in quality. I buy US manufactured tools because they'll last a lifetime compared to their chinese counterparts. But if we're talking about shoes or clothes, I don't even look at where it's made. I just look for quality materials and stitching.

Titty Meat 01-26-2013 10:07 PM

No

TimeForWasp 01-26-2013 10:43 PM

I buy made in america stickers and put them on everything.

Chiefshrink 01-26-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9353342)
LIke what was said up above people talk shit about i immagrants getting jobs, but like my neighbor who is a labor contracter told me, they have to do the job because americans wont do it! Its just not gonna happen.

Because Americans aren't put in a position to have to do those types of jobs(YET) because the FED IS PRINTING MORE $$ than we have ever seen in our nation's history and allowing these lazy ass Americans to literally make 40K a year on average from welfare and also give the illegal aliens welfare as well. Hell, who wouldn't think that was a good gig if you have no character.

As soon as the 'piper has to be paid' (meaning 'the dollar' collapses) then those lazy ass Americans who live off my tax dollar will have to work those jobs they said they will never do and the illegals will realize America is no better than Mexico in due time and go back home.

Psyko Tek 01-27-2013 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9353260)
I bought a new couch today that is high quality and 100% made in the USA. It's a Stickley, if you know the brand. They pay their workers well with full benefits. I could have bought a similar "looking" couch from Nebraska Furniture Mart for about 1/3 the price, but they sell crap.

There's also a clothing store in the KC area that sells jeans that are 100% USA made. The workers who fabricate the jeans from start to finish are well paid with full benefits. A pair costs $200.

Walmart recently said they're moving back to the Made in the USA when possible. That will be a rough road.

The question is: Do you support workers in the USA, or do you take advantage of cheap Asian labor?

If I can get the wages I had in the '00's not a problem
was pullin 25 to 40 per hour depending on the job
we need to get high tech shit back only in country
computer chips are a national security issue not a profit issue



Israel has an intel fab one of the big ones
when the attacked syria
the chips in there anti aircraft guns or radar failed
you all want your defense industry electronics built somewhere else?


you wanna bet the chinese chips do not have a back way in to them

Psyko Tek 01-27-2013 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 9353492)
Neither. I, generally, am not a price only buyer. If I can get quality for a better price without too much hassle then that's what I'll do.

Some high end or designer products are still be made in China. For instance Dooney & Bourke purses are made in the US, Mexico, Italy as well as China. I still paid nearly $300 for mine on sale.

$300 dollars for a purse?
and it was a bargain?
**** that is my monthly food budget

got a pic?

Chief Roundup 01-27-2013 12:37 AM

I try to buy the best that I can afford. But of course I would rather pay a little more for American made products than foriegn products all other things being equal.

Demonpenz 01-27-2013 02:15 AM

i bought my van a chebby big mistake. I am a honda accord man now.

BucEyedPea 01-27-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 9354433)
$300 dollars for a purse?
and it was a bargain?
**** that is my monthly food budget

got a pic?

They're weather resistant leather. I need that here. I LOVE it! But it was a gift from my keeper for
Christmas. ( I want another one for summer too.)

http://www.dooney.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCt...?section=59892


I want another in a different color. Have my eye on this one for $475. Have to wait for a sale though.
http://www.dooney.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCt...?section=55848

johnny961 01-27-2013 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9354455)
I try to buy the best that I can afford. But of course I would rather pay a little more for American made products than foriegn products all other things being equal.

This. If an item is available that is made in the USA that is somewhat higher I will generally pay the extra. I have a decent job and I always try to support our own when possible.

KCUnited 01-27-2013 09:35 AM

I like to buy foreign goods from local mom and pop shops.

Deberg_1990 01-27-2013 11:03 AM

Love me sum Japanese car and electronics!

Predarat 01-27-2013 11:25 AM

I do try to buy USA and from smaller businesses. Its about price, quality, ect.

Stewie 01-27-2013 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9354020)
Most your furniture is going to be American made anyway. Shipping bulky furniture is cost prohibitive.

But to answer your question, it depends on the product and dropoff in quality. I buy US manufactured tools because they'll last a lifetime compared to their chinese counterparts. But if we're talking about shoes or clothes, I don't even look at where it's made. I just look for quality materials and stitching.

Ashley, the biggest furniture seller in the US, sources its furniture and components from China and Vietnam for the most part. Shipping a sofa is no different that shipping a refrigerator from Asia. Ashley isn't alone in that game.

What tools do you buy that are made in the US? I own stock in SWK which is Stanley plus Black and Decker. They also own DeWalt. They shut down US manufacturing in the US in 2003. It's all made in China, Mexico and the Czech Republic.

Cmd'r&Chief 01-27-2013 01:22 PM

I will buy American, only if it's a small percentage more. Definitely not paying $200 for a pair of Damn jeans

Setsuna 01-27-2013 02:21 PM

If I can't sense the tears of little, overworked children in my products, I don't buy them. Sorry Merica.

Al Bundy 01-27-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9353260)
I bought a new couch today that is high quality and 100% made in the USA. It's a Stickley, if you know the brand. They pay their workers well with full benefits. I could have bought a similar "looking" couch from Nebraska Furniture Mart for about 1/3 the price, but they sell crap.

There's also a clothing store in the KC area that sells jeans that are 100% USA made. The workers who fabricate the jeans from start to finish are well paid with full benefits. A pair costs $200.

Walmart recently said they're moving back to the Made in the USA when possible. That will be a rough road.

The question is: Do you support workers in the USA, or do you take advantage of cheap Asian labor?

All of furniture is American made, I spent a lot of money but it holds up great. Chair and Sofa both made by Lee Industries.

scho63 01-27-2013 04:02 PM

I shop on what I like as opposed to price and where it's made.

I prefer quality over price.

If I had to pay a small 10-15% premium to buy American of EQUAL or better quality, I would. I'm not buying an american product that falls apart just to say I bought American.


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