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ShowtimeSBMVP 02-17-2013 06:43 PM

New Assesment Test at Combine now
 
Steve Wyche ‏@wyche89

New combine player assesment test will be 60 minutes and players won't be able to prep for it. More coming on http://NFL.com



Wonderlic to be supplemented by new aptitude test at combine

By Albert Breer NFL.com
Reporter, NFL.com and NFL Network
Published: Feb. 17, 2013 at 06:12 p.m.
Updated: Feb. 17, 2013 at 07:00 p.m.
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Another change to the NFL Scouting Combine's testing is on the way.
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The NFL plans to implement a new expanded player-assessment test designed to provide a comprehensive look at a player's "non-physical capabilities, aptitudes and strengths," according to an NFL memo obtained by NFL.com's Steve Wyche. The memo, which was sent to team presidents and general managers, says the new assessment tool is not being introduced as a replacement for any other tests, but rather as a way to provide new measurements over a range of non-physical capabilities.

An NFL league office source confirmed that the test will be part of this year's combine.

National Football Scouting president Jeff Foster confirmed the test is not a replacement for, but rather a counterpart to, the much-criticized Wonderlic test. The Wonderlic has been used at the combines for decades since its origination as an intelligence test in the 1970s by legendary Dallas Cowboys coach Tom Landry. The Wonderlic's usefulness and the ethics of relying on it have been sources of debate over the years.

According to Foster, the league spent time developing the new test with a university professor.

Clubs have long expressed the importance of years of data built up on tried-and-true testing and measurements, enabling balanced comparisons, so Foster and other combine officials always have been reluctant to eliminate elements from the combine. A recent example is the addition of wingspan to measurements. Some people voiced concerns that wingspan is a more illuminating measurement than arm length, so it was added to the combine, but arm length wasn't eliminated.

Here is the complete NFL memo outlining the additional assessment test:
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At this year's combine we will introduce a new and expanded player assessment tool designed to offer a much more robust and comprehensive assessment of a player's non-physical capabilities, aptitudes, and strengths. This tool was developed by Harold Goldstein, Professor of Industrial/Organizational Psychology at Baruch College, City University of NY. Professor Goldstein is an expert in industrial psychology who has designed employment tests in a variety of other industries and has worked closely with Cyrus Mehri of the Fritz Pollard Alliance.

The assessment tool being introduced at the Combine is not intended to displace anything currently in use or substitute for other tests that are given either at the Combine or by the clubs themselves. Rather, this new test measures a wide range of competencies, including learning styles, motivation, decision-making skills, responding to pressure or unexpected stimuli, and core intellect. It was developed after detailed discussions with current and former league executives, including Ernie Accorsi, Thomas Dimitroff, John Elway, and Jerry Reese, and was reviewed by members of the general managers Advisory Committee.

This is an exciting innovation that brings updated best practices from corporate America to the NFL football operations. By giving clubs new and more relevant information, it offers additional information to supplement your decision-making in the draft. One of the most interesting aspects is that new information on player learning styles can potentially help our coaches' work more effectively with young players.

We look forward to reviewing and receiving your feedback later this year and incorporating it into future versions of this assessment tool.

cabletech94 02-17-2013 06:45 PM

wiener size is what i was gonna guess.

KCrockaholic 02-17-2013 06:46 PM

Wonderlic is gone? Eventually.

cabletech94 02-17-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9411127)
Wonderlic is gone? Eventually.

vince young sobs.



into his millions of dollars that he might have left.

RunKC 02-17-2013 06:49 PM

This is HUGE for us. It's going to give us a big insight to these QB's. Love this.

KCrockaholic 02-17-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 9411130)
vince young sobs.



into his millions of dollars that he might have left.

lol He does own a steakhouse in TX. He might not be as rich as he used to be, but he's probably doing alright.

KCrockaholic 02-17-2013 06:55 PM

One thing is for sure. If Geno gets a 15 on his wonderlic, he'll be a star.

Dan Marino 15
Randall Cunningham 15
Jim Kelly 15
Terry Bradshaw 15


Oh and then there's Vince Young. 15.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-17-2013 06:59 PM

Geno is a really, really, smart kid. These types of tests will be strong for him.

B14ckmon 02-17-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9411124)
Wonderlic to be supplemented by new aptitude test at combine


Tyler Bray has to be relieved.

Chiefshrink 02-17-2013 07:10 PM

When they come up with a test that measures 'football instinct' then it will get interesting. Unfortunately all of what we have now in technology to measure 'football instinct' is 'game film' and that is 'after the fact' whether good or bad. Also there is the 'whiteboard' chalk talk scenarios in the interview process but that is it.

Wonderlic and MMPI are very valuable accurate sources to go by to 'some degree' but we can see examples of players who didn't give a sh** about doing well on those tests who did well in the NFL and vice versa.

Get a test that measures football instinct for each position I say.:thumb:

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-17-2013 07:10 PM

Beware the "push send" test.

MatriculatingHank 02-17-2013 07:15 PM

Alex Smith scored 40 on his wonderlic
Just sayin.....

aturnis 02-17-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9411157)
Tyler Bray has to be relieved.

How so?

B14ckmon 02-17-2013 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9411200)
How so?

Because he is easily the dumbest QB in this draft class.

RunKC 02-17-2013 07:49 PM

Barkley is going to rape this test. Easily the smartest QB with the best football IQ.

NJChiefsFan 02-17-2013 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9411233)
Because he is easily the dumbest QB in this draft class.

If this test is more detailed it may make him look even worse.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-17-2013 07:52 PM

The test will be Gunnery Sgt. Hartman insulting all of them in rapid fire fashion as a test of their character and composure.

Hartman: Do you suck dicks?
Te'o: Sir, no sir!!
Hartman: Are you a peter puffer?
Te'o: Sir, no sir!!
Hartman: BULLSHIT, you look like you could suck a golf ball through a garden hose!!

B14ckmon 02-17-2013 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9411245)
If this test is more detailed it may make him look even worse.

Well he isn't going to do worse than the 0 he was going to have.

houstonwhodat 02-17-2013 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9411137)
lol He does own a steakhouse in TX. He might not be as rich as he used to be, but he's probably doing alright.

He don't own shit.

KCrockaholic 02-17-2013 08:03 PM

He doesn't own this?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/galle...ince-young.jpg

GloryDayz 02-17-2013 08:04 PM

So.... Here's to the 2013 combine...

http://cf.badassdigest.com/_uploads/...ball__span.jpg

Reaper16 02-17-2013 08:19 PM

Welp, I guess this is going to take Leon Sandcastle off our board. /somebody had to say it, snr, it was low-hanging fruit

aturnis 02-17-2013 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9411233)
Because he is easily the dumbest QB in this draft class.

They aren't getting rid of the Wonderlic. Just adding an additional test.

B14ckmon 02-17-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9411800)
They aren't getting rid of the Wonderlic. Just adding an additional test.

Good call I misread that.

KC native 02-17-2013 11:52 PM

I bet it's a personality test to identify the potential problem cases earlier in the process. *cough jovan belcher cough

AussieChiefsFan 02-17-2013 11:54 PM

Can't wait for tests like these to silence the people that think Geno isn't smart.

NJChiefsFan 02-17-2013 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9411258)
Well he isn't going to do worse than the 0 he was going to have.

Haha. Well I think they are still doing it so he will have a 0 plus another failed test on top of that.

NJChiefsFan 02-17-2013 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9411289)
So.... Here's to the 2013 combine...

http://cf.badassdigest.com/_uploads/...ball__span.jpg

Somebody needs to tell those guys Pioli isn't drafting this year. They aren't going to get picked anymore.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-18-2013 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9411149)
Geno is a really, really, smart kid. These types of tests will be strong for him.

huge. He will absolutely smoke the competition.
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Stewie 02-18-2013 08:13 AM

Is spelling assessment correctly part of the test?

dallaschiefsfan 02-18-2013 08:20 AM

Aptitude isn't the end-all...but it's a good extra layer for assessment of a player.

Strongside 02-18-2013 08:21 AM

Meh...Jamaal would fail these things for sure...dude's still an animal.

htismaqe 02-18-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9411241)
Barkley is going to rape this test. Easily the smartest QB with the best football IQ.

Ryan Fitzpatrick says hello.

Iowanian 02-18-2013 10:04 AM

I heard they were putting them all in sweat pants, giving them viagra and showing gay porn on the big screen to out the gays.

Mr. Laz 02-18-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9412024)
Meh...Jamaal would fail these things for sure...dude's still an animal.

I'm sure that the NFL people will scale the test to the positions.

A RB doesn't have to be as smart as a QB etc,etc.

htismaqe 02-18-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9412160)
I'm sure that the NFL people will scale the test to the positions.

A RB doesn't have to be as smart as a QB etc,etc.

You would think so.

KChiefs1 02-18-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatriculatingHank (Post 9411174)
Alex Smith scored 40 on his wonderlic
Just sayin.....

:clap:

Strongside 02-18-2013 12:09 PM

Anyone remember this gem?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6cBEDFDhoq8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Mr_Tomahawk 02-18-2013 12:11 PM

Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs71

Scott Pioli will be working with NFL Network in Path to the Draft.

htismaqe 02-18-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9412359)
Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs71

Scott ***** will be working with NFL Network in Path to the Draft.

One more reason not to watch...

gblowfish 02-18-2013 12:30 PM

This may be the first time an athlete from Miami U. scores a negative number at the combine.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-18-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9412359)
Nick Jacobs‏@Jacobs71

Scott Pioli will be working with NFL Network in Path to the Draft.

yeah, call a great big expert of suck. Solid move.
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stevenidol 02-18-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9411147)
One thing is for sure. If Geno gets a 15 on his wonderlic, he'll be a star.

Dan Marino 15
Randall Cunningham 15
Jim Kelly 15
Terry Bradshaw 15


Oh and then there's Vince Young. 15.

Steve McNair had a 15 as well.


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