Podcast: Rich Baldinger Talks Chiefs OL
 

On 610 today;

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6272783

• Branden Albert is potentially better at LT than LG because he's no mauler

• Rodney Hudson really shredded knee during that injury -- will he be back???

• Asamoah isn't knocking guys off the ball in the red zone

• Jake Long would fit well -- is an upgrade

• Winston was disappointing especially for the dollars

• last season's OL talent was a big reason they were 2 - 14

His last point is bullshit. Quinn and Cassel were two huge reasons for 2-14. Romeo's complete ineptness was another huge reason.

Charles had no problem finding running lanes behind last years OL and that was with every team knowing that KC couldn't throw the ball. Baldinger is like Maas without the guns and coke.

He basically said Branden Albert isn't a good fit for Andy Reid's offense at LT.

WTF? LMAO

the Chiefs got in the Red zone last year? did i misss something? lol

it's all about the OL people

forget QB entirely

listen to the propaganda ministers of the true fans

OL is the most important position in professional sports

meh, he saying Reid is going to find an OL because this one sucks. I concur. The Chiefs need to ditch the "one second offense".

It isn't so much that Reid is a "QB Guru" as it is he is a OL guru.

well they are completely rebuilding or reconstructing the oline it seems

so as much as we liked the play last year i'd imagine it will look different this year so they must have concerns we do not.

you could have any combination of new guard, new center, new LT or RT pending whatever the hell they are thinking. Will be interesting how it plays out.

did alex smith get good as his OL got good? yes. Harbaugh is a good OL coach too. He's had that OL playing good two seasons now.

any ****ing idiot can have all those first round picks on the 49ers oline playing well, they have like 3 cant miss prospects, a monkey could coach that and get praise

y'all know the only time anything looks good offensively is when Jamaal is running to daylight all by his damn self.

I wasn't aware that Harbaugh coached the OL in San Fran?

buncha first rounders on the Chiefs DL..... guess that's all they needed

Chris Johnson says, "sup"!

**** krissy

oh that's right he coaches.... heads.

ROFL


I agree with everything above

It's amazing how many alleged experts don't know jack

You have no ****ing clue what a head coach does. Harbaugh doesn't coach any OL technique or schemes as the head coach. He helps put the roster together and decide who plays, but the position coaches teach the technique. Harbaugh does coach the QBs because that is his area of expertise. Any improved play by he OL in San Fran can be attributed to the quality of the players on the roster and the job if their position coach.

"Rodney Hudson really shredded knee during that injury -- will he be back???"


This is tidbit of news that if true has me worried about Rodney Hudson.

Who in the secon Oh, er I mean third round can we find a center to replace Rodney if his knee can't hold up?

The OL wasn't a problem before scabs like Hochstein, Allen and Stephenson were all starting together.

Of course that's a shitty line.

Albert-Lilja-Hudson-Asamoah-Winston was a very solid group.

I thought Hudson broke his leg not shredded his knee

Sep 27, 2012 – The Kansas City Chiefs will be without Rodney Hudson for the rest of the season after their starting center broke his leg in Sunday's win over

Never trust a Baldinger.

Baldinger is a Moran

Never trust a man named Dick Baldinger.

Damn you!

Nice link, chiefsfootballfan.

Dumbass.

you have never played football have you. The HC designs the team from personnel, coaches & schemes to blocking techniques, play calls and packages. a good football team plays & looks like they are on the same page. That is is what a good HC does.

I played football from the time I was 8 years old until I was 20. In Pop Warner ball, sure the head coach had his hands in coaching all positions including technique.

In high school, the position coaches coached technique and scheme while the head coach designed the game plan. The head coach would go from position group to position group during practice and observe, but he rarely interjected himself into the technique side of the coaching except for the linebackers since he played linebacker in college.

The two years I played small college ball before transferring to Notre Dame (where I obviously didn't pull a Rudy and walk on) the coach was more like a CEO. He set the direction of the team, made decisions about overall strategy, and decided who should play.

Do you honestly think Harbaugh is coaching the OL in San Fran to the point he could take credit for any improvement in their play?

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http://www.fybertech.com/4thread/v_1...1164137949.jpg

The conventional wisdom around here is that investing valuable draft picks in guys like that is a waste of resources.

Red Zone = all the empty red seats at Camarohead.

hell yes. he runs that offense during practice. his position coaches do obvious stuff you already pointed out, but when they are installing plays etc Harbaugh runs that team. If his linemen are doing it the right way, you'll never hear Harbaugh "coach the OL" per se, but if they don't block the play proper, you can bet Harbaugh is on the OL, coaching them to perform the play proper.

Geez. No wonder casual fans are so stupid. They listen to guys like this that should be full of great knowledge and take their crap takes as gospel. Almost everything he said was a flat lie or wrong.

he did both according to RB.

How can you be this stupid and not have died already because you forgot to breath or were hit by a bus because you walked into traffic?

Not blocking the play properly has nothing to do with footwork, hand placement, leverage, etc... You know, all the things that make offensive lineman better. Harbaugh telling the OL that they didn't block the play correctly, for example "hey, your supposed to let the DT go and block the MLB and the DT will get picked up by the pilling guard" is great, but would be explained during film study in the position meetings.

Harbaugh has very little to nothing to do with actual improvement by the OL.

I dont know why people around here are high on Asamoah and Allen.

Regardless of where they were picked, they're both average at best and can be easily replaced by better players IMO.

This team still needs OL depth. We got rid of Winston, so that's a body/position that needs replacement. There's a good chance Hudson doesn't come back to his old self. He needs someone to replace him if necessary. Lilja retired. Allen flat out sucks. What about Albert? Will he be here after this season? Coaches think long term not just what the roster needs right now ya know..

There's more problems with our Oline than people are willing to admit. That's why drafting Joeckel now isn't such a stupid idea. If there was a QB worth taking 1-1 I'd be all for it regardless of the situation...but there's not.

I don't give a rat's ass if this O-Line is the worst ever fielded in NFL history.

Drafting an OT #1 overall whne that pick only effectively upgrades the RTT or a guard position is monumentally stupid.

And it is not surprising that a monumental dumbass endorses the plan.

It's an acceptable move if they don't like albert

You and CoMo come from the same gene pool?

It is not acceptable.

You don't tag a guy you don't like.

Agreed...

If they plan on making a trade they do.

What's the downside?

Maybe should be clear if that's what you are discussing.

You're paying 10 mil for a guy you don't like.

You don't keep him if you don't like him (and you have an alternative), but you don't have to keep him just because you tagged him. He could be traded or have his tag rescinded, couldn't he?

LMAO

I can't believe people still propagate trench warfare as the only philosophy that matters in the modern NFL. Racca.
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I take it that means you can't think of a real downside afterall.

yes and baldinger said as much. Dorsey and Reid are going to completely replace this OL over the next 2 seasons. They might become decent some of them, but good they are not. baldy's point that none of these OL guys have any ability to move players out of the box is true. They suck.

You are just as full of fail as Baldy

hey, I am only the messenger. Dorsey/Reid is your "people".

Well, try winning a football game without one...

and you are just as much a POS as the OL was. so there's that.

Our OL was good enough to win a god damn division championship in 2010.

What held us back?

Conversely, did the 2007 Giants, who had the worst line in football, win a Super Bowl? Why?

**** all true fans and all members of the Baldinger family.

seymour and kelly own the chiefs. in fact any DL with some players owns the Chiefs. Like say, the Ravens.

Truth. It's unfortunate that some people feel the need to discount the importance of the OLine in order to justify their QB takes.

No dumbass.

The premise presented by CoMo is that you are tagging your best O-Lineman and drafting the guy viewed by some as the best in the draft.

Tagging Albertg to trade him is an entirely different discussion.

The line wasn't a POS, opened some great running lanes, and was doomed by bad QB play, so I take that as a compliment.

Chiefs ran for 300 on the Ravens and they KNEW the team wasn't going to pass. Our O-line pushed their shit in that game.

No bro. Jamaal ****ing Charles has been running behind all five of your grandmas. the ****ng guy is special like that. really. like barry ****ing sanders special. but it is wasted.

No one is discounting the importance of the O-Line.

We are discounting the absolutely moronic idea pushed by ****ing idiots like you that we need to throw first round draft picks at every god damn year.

pfffft.

The last two days, ESPN has been scrolling that the Chiefs are negotiating a long term contract with Albert.

I will. You can win a Super Bowl with a bad O-line, you have to have high level QB play. We didn't have a bad line. In fact we had a pretty good/young unit. Cutting Winston and then drafting Jekyll or whoever to play RT would be one of the bigger fails in team draft history.

Absolutely pushed their shit in. If not for Cassel we would have raped them.

no. if not for cassel, we would have at least made it respectable. they beat Jamaal down after the TD and that's where it all came to a close.

the defense was fire that game -- they kept it close for almost 45 minutes.

Both Aaron Rodgers and Eli Manning had brilliant playoff seasons in their SB wins.

But they are exceptions, along with a guy like Ben Roethlisberger.

Most QBs do need adequate protection.

At the end of the day, however, I don't give a rat's if you have the Cowboys line of the 90s or the Roaf/Shields line of the start of this milenium, you ain't winning jack with a mediocre QB

We lost 9-6 :#

You seem to be talking about the playoff game for some unknown reason.

The Ravens adjusted at the half by putting everyone but your worthless parents in the box and daring Cassel to beat them.

Before that adjustment, the Chiefs line was abusing the Ravens.

oh, you're talking this year. look, there is a lot of raw talent on this team. the OL had some of that. But JFC they wer not a OL that provided blocking for adequate amounts of time. it's just raw talent. there isn't anything developing with those guys.

Oh, jesus ****.

Did your parents use your head as a hammer when you were a baby?

You're imagining things. Either that or making them up in a futile effort to save face.

First, I'm aware of that, but you never know how much truth there is to that kind of report.

Second, either way, it doesn't change the fact that Milkman's comment was wrong.

Go back and read his post, you dipshit.

He is presenting an argument to improve the line this, the part that I addressed with my post.

I am not essentially drafting to improve my RT or guard position.

Now he also says essentially that drafting Joekel is insurance against Albet not being here next year.

That means he is not presenting a case for franchisin Albert to trade him.

I didn't address that.

Now shut the **** up and go back to diddling yourself.

Your revisionist history doesn't match this thread.

Read the bolded line, dumbass

Revisionist history, my ass.

OL is being addressed I think ... we have so many needs everywhere .. where do ya start ....