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Which car would you choose?
1996 Chevy Camaro RS Coupe with 88k miles for $3000 Manual 5-speed but will need all new tires, the ABS light is on, and the rear blinkers don't work, however the hazards all work. Ceiling is mega sagging.
or 2002 Chevy Cavalier Sport Automatic 4-speed with 104k miles for $3500 but will eventually need a catalytic converter and the rear driver side window motor is faulty. Owner also mentioned that the ABS light will pop on occasionally but goes away after a few seconds. Happens every few weeks. Having driven both I feel more comfortable in the Cavalier but that might be because I am not used to being so low to the ground in the Camaro. Also, the Camaro is a rear wheel drive car. Something else I am not fond of. Those are the asking prices so I will obviously offer less. |
If i'm buying for reliability and not performance, i'd take the cavalier... the camaro has prolly been ran a lot harder.
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neither. A camaro for your kid - lol, call your insurance agent.
and Cavaliers might be one of the worst cars ever made. On another note i saw a green 4 dour Ford Contour the other day parked down by the south end of the Topeka Blvd bridge, window said $1,800. |
With gas prices never coming back to earth, you're better off with the Cavalier.
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My co-worker drives a Cavalier Sport around that same age. The dash is trashed, heater core shot, and looks like shit. However, it has 217k miles on it and has got him to work every day that last 5 years (76 miles round trip).
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Why would anyone ever buy a Cavalier? Buy a Corolla that is four years older but will actually run.
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I'd take the bus.
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No.
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are you kidding? The Camaro of course! They are actually built pretty well.
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Lots of people die cause the cava doors suck.
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The third-generation Cavalier earned several low scores in crash tests by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety and National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Also, IIHS fatality risks statistics rated the Cavalier among the "Highest rates of driver deaths," with 150 (4 door) to 171 (2 door) driver deaths per million registered vehicle years. Average for the Cavalier class (small) was 103 (4 door) to 134 (2 door) driver deaths per million registered vehicle years.[9]
The IIHS gave the 1995-2005 Cavalier a "Poor" overall score in their frontal offset collision test.[10] |
A lot of steering issues with Cavaliers from what I remember. Camaro's are built really well, and to grab a '96 with only 88k miles is great. The insurance shouldn't be a problem with it being an RS.
Outside of the very easy to fix problems you have stated, it looks like the Camaro is the clear cut Geno Smith of the two. The Cavalier is more like Alex Smith, probably will get the job for a year or 2 but will eventually burn in a ditch somewhere. |
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Dont get me wrong, the japanese make some damn nice vehicles, but too many people think that everything they put out squashes any competing model... part of the problem is that import people are very proud of the conscious decision they make to go that route and therefore make a much bigger stink about it than other car buyers who are equally satisfied. |
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Just checked, liability insurance is the exact same for both vehicles as I expected.
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You are going to have a lot of problems witheither one. All ancillary costs being equal, no question the camaro. V8, easier to work on, better parts availability by far, plus its cooler.
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Think he also failed to mention this is for a teenager...
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Here is the specific vehicle info based on the VINs
http://www.decodethis.com/VIN-Decode...FP22K7T2124262 http://www.decodethis.com/VIN-Decode...JH52F427284697 |
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A ton of people who know whats what specifically look for them, particularly in Buicks. |
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for the record, my son was all for the Cavalier until we drove the Camaro. LMAO
I will also have to teach him how to drive a stick with the Camaro. |
Yeah, on dry pavement. Wait until he tries to drive it in snow.
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Too many miles |
Just from what you posted I'd pick the Cavalier.
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Kid can drive a stick right? Assume so but just asking. Its a good bet there is more potential oop expenses with the Cavalier upcoming.
How bad is the headliner in the camaro? Is it a T-Top? I ask cause they are more to repair than standard coupe or you can just WT it with thumbtacks, like i did on my first as a kid. As for being a 5 speed in winter and RWD, that sucks. |
IIRC it cost about $125 to re-do the headliner in my old Firebird. Of course that was 10 years ago and prices may vary.
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headliner's a piece of cake.
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Camaro will result in reception of a larger quantity of vagina.
You can't put a price on that. |
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Out of both of these options, the Camaro and the Cavalier, I choose to walk. Not even kidding, I don't know why the selection is narrowed down to this piles of junk, but I could come up with about a thousand better vehicles for the money, than these two turds. |
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Don't mean to be a dick, but maybe waiting a few weeks is a better option. Getting in situations like this where you feel like you have to make a purchase is the surest way to get ****ed, because you lose all of your leverage.
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I would recommend finding a Toyota Camry, those things run forever
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Camaro, if you have a son.
Camaro, if you had a daughter. The turn signals not working could be the bulb, or even the flash relay. |
Buy a bicycle.
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If he ****s in the back seat of the Camaro he might poke his eye out. Pretty cramped.
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I'd offer $2000(maybe, the milage is too low for me not wonder why) for the Camaro or $2400 for the Cavalier. And probably move on.
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Unfortunately, these are the best two cars I have found in 2 months of looking. |
The camaro will have a solid drive train but will have Ricky tack things go wrong. The cavalier will have everything go wrong. Cavalier is an entry level vehicle. Camaro is not
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PM Me your budget, your area, the mileage you're willing to go for a car, the needs and wants of the future car, and for whom the car is for. I'll find you something better in literally less than 15 minutes, assuming I'm online when I receiver the PM. Right now you've got your wallet in hand, outstretched for someone to come take you and run away with your hard earned cash, and neither of those two are reasonable options. Quote:
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Go look on Craigslist in Manhattan, Lawrence before the end of college spring term. I found both my daughters nice cars for under 3K from students not wanting to take their vehicle with them....
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PM replied, if you need any other assistance let me know!:thumb:
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Doesn't help that my son is really wanting the Camaro now. LMAO
My mistake. I should never have taken him on that test drive with me. |
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If you don't buy it, he'll be upset. If you do buy it, I promise your wallet will be upset within the year lol. |
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Cavalier is off the table. Owner just texted me he had another offer and I can make an offer if I want. Told him to accept the other parties offer. Called his bluff. EDIT Yep, he is upset that we are telling him to look at more cars before settling on the Camaro. Going to be a battle now. |
Well, if it was my son and his own money, I'd let him buy it with the understanding he's not to come crying to me every time the damn thing breaks, and not to come crying to me that he can't get to work because there's an inch of snow on the ground.
And while Exotor is the first person I've heard speak ill of that 3800 engine, I am not emotionally invested enough in this to get into a internet war over it. But it wouldn't be an engine I would be uncomfortable purchasing. My biggest problem is a car like that has more than likely been hooned a time or two or three thousand. Just because it doesn't have a V8 doesn't mean it hasn't been driven like it does, especially with that manual trans. HAY GUYS CHECK OUT TEH SECOND GEAR SCRATCH!!! So yeah, that, along with the age, shit's gonna break. If he's not willing to get his hands dirty and learn a thing or two about fixing your car yourself, it's not the car for him. |
is he employed?
if so, take the $3500..put it down on a $5500 Cherokee with about 60-70k miles, and let him pay it off... |
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I have a 2003 Cavalier as my daily driver. Bought in 2005 with 28k, today it has 237k. Fuel economy has been 30mpg and repairs have been minimal so far. Has been good cost efficient transportation for me. It's beat up and looks like crap now but it still gets me back and forth (97 miles round-trip). If I can get another 100k out of it I may only have to buy 1 more car before I retire.
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TBH I wouldn't choose either.
You're just looking at a bunch of problems with both of them. |
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