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MatriculatingHank 03-14-2013 02:59 PM

Kansas City Chiefs Are An Early Pick To Make A Huge Turnaround In 2013
 
http://sportschatplace.com/football/...h/14/nfl-news/

[U][U][U]If you are looking for a team to make a quick turnaround in 2013, look no further than the Kansas City Chiefs.

The disaster that was the Kansas City Chiefs 2012 season brought sweeping changes to the franchise in the form of a new Quarterback, General Manager and Head Coach. In a results oriented business like Professional Football, a team that is incapable of scoring points is not going to stay in tact for very long.

Andy Reid was wise to choose Kansas City as his landing sport after his brand of leadership had run its course in Philadelphia. The regime of former General Manager Scott ***** did not do a bad job in acquiring overall talent, it merely overestimated Matt Cassel’s talent level and took the bullet for that decision. This team is not devoid of outstanding players and the new management team in Kansas City is rapidly checking off the boxes of the tasks that need to be completed before this team can go back to the playoffs.

The first and most important statement that new General Manager John Dorsey made was to go out and find himself a competent Quarterback in Alex Smith. Smith’s detractors will say that his success was due to playing for a team that is stacked with talent and capable of running the ball any time, any where. A further examination of this assertion reveals that it is not as true as you would think.

Certainly, the 49ers were one of the best running teams in the NFL with the best Offensive LIne in the league and one of the toughest players in the league in Frank Gore to tote the rock. The receiving corps however, was never going to make anyone forget about the days of Jerry Rice, John Taylor and Brent Jones.

During his time in San Francisco, Alex Smith had Vernon Davis and not much more. From a physical standpoint, Alex Smith tends to pale in comparison to Colin Kaepernick just as most of the Quarterbacks in the league do not possess that sort of skill set. Much of the criticism of Smth’s ability as a Quarterback comes from the comparison to Kaepernick which is not fair.

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Alex Smith is poised to bring the same level of ability and production to the table in Kansas City. He will have a 1,500 yard rusher in Jamaal Charles to make the play action passing game more effective and he has a go to stud Wide Receiver in Dwayne Bowe who is a matchup nightmare for most Cornerbacks in the league.

On Bowe’s opposite side, the 6’4” 230 lb. Jonathan Baldwin will be a similar nightmare if he can continue to develop and improve from his 20 catch 325 yard performance in 2012. Dexter McCluster provides a nice compliment to those huge receivers in the slot and his 52 catches for 452 yards should improve with a more accurate Quarterback in Smith.

Clearly, there will be some changes in the Offensive Line this off season but the Chiefs locked up their most valuable piece when they applied the Franchise Tag to Left Tackle Branden Albert. The Chiefs also have the first pick in this year’s draft and can use it to shore up the line further with another franchise Left Tackle like Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel who can play the Right Tackle position while the team decides whether or not it wants to sign Albert to a long term deal. Eric Winston was released prior to the Free Agent signing period in a move designed to free up more cap space.

On the Defensive side of the ball, you cannot accuse Scott ***** of failing to address the interior line positions as he added first round picks like Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe to Glen Dorsey to give the Chiefs a very expensive if underachieving Defensive front. Jackson in particular had a contract with extremely unfriendly cap terms and was convinced to restructure his deal in such a way that his cap number was reduced by about 10 Mil in 2013. Glen Dorsey was released altogether and former New York Jet Mike DeVito was brought in to fill his slot at a better number.

There is some talk that the Chiefs will use the first pick in the draft to add more talent to the Defensive Line in the form of Utah’s Star Lotulelei for Florida’s Sharrif Floyd. Adding one of those two prospects to a lineup of Jackson, Poe and DeVito makes this an extremely formidable unit.

Another area of the Defense that John Dorsey has done an outstanding job of addressing through Free Agency is the Cornerback position which was a problem in 2012. In a division with Peyton Manning and his frightening corps of receivers, talent at the Cornerback position is indispensable. By adding former Falcon Dunta Robinson and Dolphin Sean Smith to Brandon Flowers, the Chiefs now have a considerable investment in 3 very good Corners. They also have one very solid Safety in Eric Berry and will have an opportunity to find another in the draft as the position is an area of strength in 2013.

In the coming draft, the Chiefs do not have any extra choices but they do have the first or second picks in every round. With these picks, Kansas City will be able to find some value at Safety, Wide Receiver and Offensive Line.

Barring catastrophic injuries, there is no way that this will be a 2-14 team in 2013. If Smith plays up to his San Francisco numbers, this is a team that will contend for a playoff spot. The running game is solid, the receivers are big and fast, the Offensive Line is bound to improve and the Defense will benefit from some positional upgrades and an Offense that will have fewer 3 and outs. If you’re looking for an early candidate for Coach of the Year, Andy Reid is one of the best bets around.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 02:59 PM

We could win the division! /2012

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

On Bowe’s opposite side, the 6’4” 230 lb. Jonathan Baldwin will be a similar nightmare if he can continue to develop and improve from his 20 catch 325 yard performance in 2012. Dexter McCluster provides a nice compliment to those huge receivers in the slot and his 52 catches for 452 yards should improve with a more accurate Quarterback in Smith.
LMAO

Amazing how clueless the media is.

Of course this is from "Sportschatplace," which is probably below Bleacher Report on the totem pole.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-14-2013 03:01 PM

With coaching and a QB alone we would have been 10-6

Now that we've signed Sean Smith we'll probably go 14-2 .

keg in kc 03-14-2013 03:01 PM

This Smith detractor is a Smith detractor because of the price paid. He'd have been fine as a free agent. I think literally any QB who isn't Matt Cassel could get this team 8-8 (including probably half the rookies in this draft class, and I don't mean just the name or two at the top). And if that's your goal, well, a vet is a fine direction to go. But why in the world throw away 2nd round picks to do it for the kind of guy that you can get for nothing?

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-14-2013 03:02 PM

So can Chase run the wildbrave/cat?

Easy 6 03-14-2013 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498410)
We could win the division! /2012

Yeah, thats certainly a familiar refrain.

But things are quite different from the top down this time, so theres that.

Rasputin 03-14-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 9498424)
So can Chase run the wildbrave/cat?

I'm not a MU homer but I'd be happy when Chase takes over this season for injured Alex Smith. Maybe they will put in some sub plays for him to run.

Doesn't even look like Stanzi is going compete for the #2 job. They took ur job.

Mr. Laz 03-14-2013 03:18 PM

we've just been CoMo'ed


:(

Fairplay 03-14-2013 03:20 PM

9-7 or 16-0 one of the two.

Fish 03-14-2013 03:21 PM

Yeah... we saw plenty of these last year too....

KurtCobain 03-14-2013 03:22 PM

Alex Smith is gonna BEAST this year.

BigRedChief 03-14-2013 03:25 PM

I predict many a posts about the lamestream media not knowing a damn thing about KC.

AdumbGuy 03-14-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498410)
We could win the division! /2012

This. The ***** bits are especially funny. What's the point that he's trying to make with this line?:

you cannot accuse Scott ***** of failing to address the interior line positions as he added first round picks like Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe to Glen Dorsey to give the Chiefs a very expensive if underachieving Defensive front.


Expensive and underwhelming isn't usually what I think of when I think of somebody addressing a need.... shit... Alex Smith. carry on.

Dayze 03-14-2013 03:40 PM

the only way we stand a chance at winning the division is if we see major improvement from Baldwin, and Avery can hit the ground running.

Smith is what he is - a manage/Cassel 2.0. If teams don't respect the pass, we're hosed.

Offense needs to step up IMO. Defense will be solid. not world beaters, but not push-overs either.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9498527)
Yeah... we saw plenty of these last year too....

And there have been no changes from this time last year to now, so why would anyone expect anything to be different?

listopencil 03-14-2013 03:44 PM

Meh. I think if Manning stays healthy then the Broncos win the division. I definitely expect KC to do better than last year though. Alex Smith is not a bad QB.

Mav 03-14-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498618)
Meh. I think if Manning stays healthy then the Broncos win the division. I definitely expect KC to do better than last year though. Alex Smith is not a bad QB.

The most honest post i have seen here. Bravo.

I too think not only do the broncos win the division, but have to be favorites at this moment to represent the afc in the super bowl.

LOADED.

Easy 6 03-14-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498618)
Meh. I think if Manning stays healthy then the Broncos win the division. I definitely expect KC to do better than last year though. Alex Smith is not a bad QB.

I agree, we'll be the bridesmaid to you guys this year barring something radical happening.

Easy 6 03-14-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9498541)
I predict many a posts about the lamestream media not knowing a damn thing about KC.

Please never use that word again.

listopencil 03-14-2013 03:52 PM

I'm looking at the four teams and thinking the Raiders and the Chargers are going to be fighting it out for last place. OAK is in free fall and the SD line got even weaker, there's a good chance that Rivers is going to look like the worst QB in the division. I've seen Alex Smith play. I wouldn't be completely surprised if KC gets a Wild Card spot.

Ming the Merciless 03-14-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9498626)
The most honest post i have seen here. Bravo.


oh hey look , Alex Smith Fan's got his lips and mouth on a Donkey's Cock

shocker

listopencil 03-14-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9498662)
oh hey look , Alex Smith Fan's got his lips and mouth on a Donkey's Cock

shocker

I know a lot of you guys are pissed because you see KC's acquisition of Smith as eliminating the chance that you guys draft a QB first overall. That's understandable. He's a decent QB though. He's shown flashes of being an impact player, he's been able to make plays here and there. You guys really are distinctly better at the QB position with him instead of Mark Asshole.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498681)
I know a lot of you guys are pissed because you see KC's acquisition of Smith as eliminating the chance that you guys draft a QB first overall. That's understandable. He's a decent QB though. He's shown flashes of being an impact player, he's been able to make plays here and there. You guys really are distinctly better at the QB position with him instead of Mark Asshole.

No, we're pissed because anyone that knows anything about football knows you're not going to win a championship with Alex Smith. You don't win with game managers - the guy had an elite running game and elite defense and still didn't get the job done. He's certainly not going to do it here with inferior talent.

Decent isn't good enough in today's NFL, and better than bad does not equal good.

FloridaMan88 03-14-2013 04:05 PM

Here comes 9-7 and True Fans JIMP everywhere!

Fairplay 03-14-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498649)
I wouldn't be completely surprised if KC gets a Wild Card spot.



I don't want to go to the playoffs if we are one and done.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498681)
You guys really are distinctly better at the QB position with him instead of Mark Asshole.

At his very best he was throwing for less than 190 yards per game.

That doesn't = > Mark Asshole.

listopencil 03-14-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9498701)
No, we're pissed because anyone that knows anything about football knows you're not going to win a championship with Alex Smith. You don't win with game managers - the guy had an elite running game and elite defense and still didn't get the job done. He's certainly not going to do it here with inferior talent.

Decent isn't good enough in today's NFL, and better than bad does not equal good.

You're not going to win a championship with a rookie QB, either. I don't know. It's a move that made your team better.

Thig Lyfe 03-14-2013 04:10 PM

sportschatplace.com

lol

FloridaMan88 03-14-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498722)
You're not going to win a championship with a rookie QB, either. I don't know. It's a move that made your team better.

I'd rather go 5-11 with a rookie QB like Geno Smith next season than go 9-7 with Alex Smith.

Geno Smith is a future franchise QB. Alex Smith is a future Steve Bono.

listopencil 03-14-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498708)
At his very best he was throwing for less than 190 yards per game.

That doesn't = > Mark Asshole.

His time with the 9ers was pretty rough on him. He was drafted in '05 while SF was trying to build a team. You stick Casshole in his place, and 9er fans kill him in the parking lot before he can be traded.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498750)
His time with the 9ers was pretty rough on him. He was drafted in '05 while SF was trying to build a team. You stick Casshole in his place, and 9er fans kill him in the parking lot before he can be traded.

It was so rough that guys like Shaun Hill outplayed him.

listopencil 03-14-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 9498736)
I'd rather go 5-11 with a rookie QB like Geno Smith next season than go 9-7 with Alex Smith.

Geno Smith is a future franchise QB
. Alex Smith is a future Steve Bono.

Maybe, maybe not.

listopencil 03-14-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498756)
It was so rough that guys like Shaun Hill outplayed him.

Meh. Hill had substantially more experience than Smith at that point.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498789)
Meh. Hill had substantially more experience than Smith at that point.

Alex Smith was a 4-year veteran at that point.

And even when he returned for his fifth year, he wasn't playing at the level Hill did.

BlackHelicopters 03-14-2013 04:30 PM

Peter King approves this thread.

PRIMETIME211 03-14-2013 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 9498736)
I'd rather go 5-11 with a rookie QB like Geno Smith next season than go 9-7 with Alex Smith.

Geno Smith is a future franchise QB. Alex Smith is a future Steve Bono.

Can't wait for geno smith to bust, anyone outside this board knows he is one of the worst QB prospects in the first round in a long time

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498722)
You're not going to win a championship with a rookie QB, either. I don't know. It's a move that made your team better.

Not likely, but we'd at least be attempting to move in that direction. A rookie QB brings hope and promise for the future.

Trading for AS just means the trip takes even longer.

SAUTO 03-14-2013 04:48 PM

Yeah I'm not going to believe anything this guy thinks.

Pioli did NOT bring in Glenn Dorsey. We did NOT release Dorsey.
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O.city 03-14-2013 04:50 PM

I'd hope we can have a huge turnaround. We should be able to atleast double our win total

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498756)
It was so rough that guys like Shaun Hill outplayed him.

And where has Shaun Hill been since those glorious years?

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498892)
I'd hope we can have a huge turnaround. We should be able to atleast double our win total

If the Chiefs fail to win at least 8 games in 2013, they will have been a major disappointment.

Mile High Mania 03-14-2013 04:53 PM

This really isn't going out on a limb... the team totally underachieved thanks to a horrible QB and other issues. Give 'em a last place schedule, a few new players - several being quite nice actually - a weak division considering SD and OAK... and voila - you could see .500 at the very least. It's not crazy talk really.

Imon Yourside 03-14-2013 04:55 PM

All we have to have happen is Alex Smith turn into Tom Brady and we have a shot!

O.city 03-14-2013 04:56 PM

With last years team, we probably should have won about 6 games. So sure we should probably win ATLEAST 8. I think we'll win more honestly.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498895)
And where has Shaun Hill been since those glorious years?

Shaun Hill sucks. And yet he was able to out-perform Alex Smith with the exact same players.

What does that say about Alex Smith?

O.city 03-14-2013 04:57 PM

Alex Smith improved and Shaun Hill didn't?

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498919)
Alex Smith improved and Shaun Hill didn't?

I would say the team around Alex Smith improved more than he improved.

I mean shit, he threw 18 TD/12 INT two years before Harbaugh.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498916)
Shaun Hill sucks. And yet he was able to out-perform Alex Smith with the exact same players.

What does that say about Alex Smith?

It says that Shaun Hill was able to grasp Mike Martz offense better than Alex Smith, who at the time, was on his fourth offense in four years.

Mile High Mania 03-14-2013 05:00 PM

Figure you can go 2-2 vs OAK/SD at the worst and you're getting rolled by DEN ... so that's 2-4 worst case or 3-3 best case in the division.

Home vs BAL / CIN / IND / ATL / CAR
Away vs CLE / PIT / BUF / NOS / TB

That's 7, possibly 8 wins... CIN, IND and CAR will present issues.

Titty Meat 03-14-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498916)
Shaun Hill sucks. And yet he was able to out-perform Alex Smith with the exact same players.

What does that say about Alex Smith?

Around the same time this was going on you were saying how Smith would be a nice addition in KC.


You're full of shit. Go directly to jail don't pass go.

Discuss Thrower 03-14-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 9498931)
Figure you can go 2-2 vs OAK/SD at the worst and you're getting rolled by DEN ... so that's 2-4 worst case or 3-3 best case in the division.

Home vs BAL / CIN / IND / ATL / CAR
Away vs CLE / PIT / BUF / NOS / TB

That's 7, possibly 8 wins... CIN, IND and CAR will present issues.

Wrong schedule.

O.city 03-14-2013 05:03 PM

We're gonna kick the shit out of the Broncos this year in KC.

bevischief 03-14-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498928)
It says that Shaun Hill was able to grasp Mike Martz offense better than Alex Smith, who at the time, was on his fourth offense in four years.

Sounds like Cassel...:banghead:

Mile High Mania 03-14-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9498938)
Wrong schedule.

Crap ... cannot trust the Google result sometimes.

Home - Houston, Indianapolis, Dallas, N.Y. Giants,
Cleveland

Away - Jacksonville, Tennessee, Philadelphia,
Washington, Buffalo

Enh, possibly the same result, but much better chance of getting to 9.

Mile High Mania 03-14-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498939)
We're gonna kick the shit out of the Broncos this year in KC.

:LOL:ROFL

Molitoth 03-14-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498939)
We're gonna kick the shit out of the Broncos this year in KC.

lol dumbass.

Mav 03-14-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9498662)
oh hey look , Alex Smith Fan's got his lips and mouth on a Donkey's Cock

shocker

Yeah, i just cant bring myself to love a chess turd.

Mav 03-14-2013 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9498701)
No, we're pissed because anyone that knows anything about football knows you're not going to win a championship with Alex Smith. You don't win with game managers - the guy had an elite running game and elite defense and still didn't get the job done. He's certainly not going to do it here with inferior talent.

Decent isn't good enough in today's NFL, and better than bad does not equal good.

Gee **** stick, the 49ers didnt get it done with a much better qb either.....

Mav 03-14-2013 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498794)
Alex Smith was a 4-year veteran at that point.

And even when he returned for his fifth year, he wasn't playing at the level Hill did.

Who did shaun hill ultimately lose his job to??

ALEX SMITH :LOL:

O.city 03-14-2013 05:10 PM

It's pretty pointless to start tallying wins or losses in March.

Ming the Merciless 03-14-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498939)
We're gonna kick the shit out of the Broncos this year in KC.

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/u...y/DSCN0236.jpg

Mile High Mania 03-14-2013 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498968)
It's pretty pointless to start tallying wins or losses in March.

True, but it's pointless to talk about many of the things that are discussed or debated to death over the Internet...

Ming the Merciless 03-14-2013 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 9498931)
Figure you can go 2-2 vs OAK/SD at the worst and you're getting rolled by DEN ... so that's 2-4 worst case or 3-3 best case in the division.

Home vs BAL / CIN / IND / ATL / CAR
Away vs CLE / PIT / BUF / NOS / TB

That's 7, possibly 8 wins... CIN, IND and CAR will present issues.

oh and BAL, ATL won't?

O.city 03-14-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 9498974)
True, but it's pointless to talk about many of the things that are discussed or debated to death over the Internet...

Yeah for sure.


But I do think people will be surprised at how bad the coaching and management was in KC last year. There's no way our talent level was 2-14, outside of the QB.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-14-2013 05:14 PM

Well, that was a nice, fluffy, piece of shit. Baldwin a "nightmare"? Lol
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Mav 03-14-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9498979)
oh and BAL, ATL won't?

3-13 slutski

Mav 03-14-2013 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498980)
Yeah for sure.


But I do think people will be surprised at how bad the coaching and management was in KC last year. There's no way our talent level was 2-14, outside of the QB.

amazing what a winning culture being brought in, with reid, and dorsey, can do for the morale of the team.

i said 10 wins, nothing so far that has been done has made me even flinch at that.

Discuss Thrower 03-14-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498980)
Yeah for sure.


But I do think people will be surprised at how bad the coaching and management was in KC last year. There's no way our talent level was 2-14, outside of the QB.

Baltimore and Pittsburgh could've been wins with a real QB.. Add an AFC West win and 5-11 was the team's potential.

O.city 03-14-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9498990)
Baltimore and Pittsburgh could've been wins with a real QB.. Add an AFC West win and 5-11 was the team's potential.

Thats with Cassel and Quinn at QB and the worse coaching staff in the NFL by a long shot, on both sides of the ball.


People don't fully understand how bad things were at Arrowhead last year behind th scenes.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9498937)
Around the same time this was going on you were saying how Smith would be a nice addition in KC.


You're full of shit. Go directly to jail don't pass go.

As a backup/developmental QB.

New World Order 03-14-2013 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9498967)
Who did shaun hill ultimately lose his job to??

ALEX SMITH :LOL:



So our new franchise qb was able to beat out Shuan Hill (in a struggle might I add) to be the man in SF. That is what I have always dreamed of!

King_Chief_Fan 03-14-2013 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499008)
As a backup/developmental QB.

did you get caught flip flopping again?

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 9499083)
did you get caught flip flopping again?

No.

I'd still take Alex Smith as a backup now that he's developed into a fine one.

BigRedChief 03-14-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9498939)
We're gonna kick the shit out of the Broncos this year in KC.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...fd1QQb2405q7fQ

Tombstone RJ 03-14-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatriculatingHank (Post 9498408)
http://sportschatplace.com/football/...h/14/nfl-news/


In the coming draft, the Chiefs do not have any extra choices but they do have the first or second picks in every round. With these picks, Kansas City will be able to find some value at Safety, Wide Receiver and Offensive Line.

lol, this right here tells you all you need to know... :rolleyes:

Mile High Mania 03-14-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9498979)
oh and BAL, ATL won't?

Well, the bolded teams were what I was listing as possible wins... so the non-bolded teams I was projecting as a loss, so ummm...

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-14-2013 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9498504)
I'm not a MU homer but I'd be happy when Chase takes over this season for injured Alex Smith. Maybe they will put in some sub plays for him to run.

Doesn't even look like Stanzi is going compete for the #2 job. They took ur job.

Colquitt is too important now to be Succup's holder. He can wing it from there too.

listopencil 03-14-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9498794)
Alex Smith was a 4-year veteran at that point.

And even when he returned for his fifth year, he wasn't playing at the level Hill did.

Which point are you talking about? Hill was an undrafted Free Agent in 2002, he signed with the Vikings. He didn't get any real playing time but went through Training Camp and practices for three years as the #3 guy. He did go play for Amsterdam for a year to get some playing time in while he was there. He was on the 9ers from 2006-2009.

Meanwhile Smith was drafted in '05 by the 9ers and went on and off the field as a rookie competing with Hill. In 2006 he was named the starter. In 2007 he was again the starter, but injured his shoulder. The HC at the time basically called him a pussy for not playing though it even though it was a pretty serious injury. He missed some games, tried to come back, couldn't play well with it. Eventually he had surgery for it. In 2008 he was trying to get the starting job back after the surgery. He couldn't play well enough to do it, losing the job to O'Sullivan. That's right. O'Sullivan. Later that year the 9ers found out that Smith's injury didn't heal properly, even after the surgery (gee, I guess he really was hurt badly?) and they put Smith on IR. Hill did later take the starting job again...from O'Sullivan as Smith was on IR at the time.

So..yeah. It's really not as simple as you make it out to be. Smith is a decent QB.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9499379)
Which point are you talking about? Hill was an undrafted Free Agent in 2002, he signed with the Vikings. He didn't get any real playing time but went through Training Camp and practices for three years as the #3 guy. He did go play for Amsterdam for a year to get some playing time in while he was there. He was on the 9ers from 2006-2009.

Meanwhile Smith was drafted in '05 by the 9ers and went on and off the field as a rookie competing with Hill. In 2006 he was named the starter. In 2007 he was again the starter, but injured his shoulder. The HC at the time basically called him a pussy for not playing though it even though it was a pretty serious injury. He missed some games, tried to come back, couldn't play well with it. Eventually he had surgery for it. In 2008 he was trying to get the starting job back after the surgery. He couldn't play well enough to do it, losing the job to O'Sullivan. That's right. O'Sullivan. Later that year the 9ers found out that Smith's injury didn't heal properly, even after the surgery (gee, I guess he really was hurt badly?) and they put Smith on IR. Hill did later take the starting job again...from O'Sullivan as Smith was on IR at the time.

So..yeah. It's really not as simple as you make it out to be. Smith is a decent QB.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Alex Smith sucked most of his career.

During 2008 he was outplayed by a turd named Shaun Hill. At that point he was a veteran. And even next season, when he was a year older, he wasn't as good as Hill had been.

But yeah, Smith is "decent." Almost as "decent" as Matt Cassel was in New England. Yay!


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