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RunKC 03-15-2013 05:42 AM

Chiefs have an OT in the building!
 
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Chiefs staying busy, visiting today with Vikings free-agent OT Geoff Schwartz, whom they are expected to sign.

!!!!!!

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2013 05:43 AM

Ooh wow. That would be a game changer if he signed.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-15-2013 05:43 AM

W00t

RunKC 03-15-2013 05:44 AM

This guy is 6'6" 340 lbs. Damn he's huge.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2013 05:45 AM

Wait... is he good?

BlackHelicopters 03-15-2013 05:48 AM

Can he play tackle?

Red Dawg 03-15-2013 05:48 AM

The illustrious words of Bill Parcells." Only a few people on the planet weigh 300 pounds and can actually move. When you have a chance to get one, you do it". Let's do this.

RunKC 03-15-2013 05:49 AM

This is the only thing I can really find on this guy

9. Minnesota Vikings (7)

PB – 13th, RB – 6th, PEN – 8th

Stud: It might not be the coolest thing to say, but there’s no denying that over the past two years the best center in the league has been John Sullivan (+27.3).

Dud: The Vikings made a big mistake in keeping Brandon Fusco (-11.8) in the starting lineup when they had better options on the bench.

Summary: The only criticism of this line is that Geoff Schwartz didn’t get nearly enough playing time. That aside, what more could you want from this line? They kept their quarterback upright, and in Sullivan and Phil Loadholt they have two of the most punishing run blockers in the league at their positions. Trending upwards, with rookie left tackle Matt Kalil being exactly as advertised.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...nsive-lines/3/

Well if it's a criticism that he didn't get enough play time, he must be pretty good. Sounds like he has some talent.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-15-2013 05:52 AM

At the rate Dorseid are signing these players, the #1 pick is going to be a luxury pick.

Chiefnj2 03-15-2013 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9501011)
This is the only thing I can really find on this guy

9. Minnesota Vikings (7)

PB – 13th, RB – 6th, PEN – 8th

Stud: It might not be the coolest thing to say, but there’s no denying that over the past two years the best center in the league has been John Sullivan (+27.3).

Dud: The Vikings made a big mistake in keeping Brandon Fusco (-11.8) in the starting lineup when they had better options on the bench.

Summary: The only criticism of this line is that Geoff Schwartz didn’t get nearly enough playing time. That aside, what more could you want from this line? They kept their quarterback upright, and in Sullivan and Phil Loadholt they have two of the most punishing run blockers in the league at their positions. Trending upwards, with rookie left tackle Matt Kalil being exactly as advertised.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...nsive-lines/3/

Well if it's a criticism that he didn't get enough play time, he must be pretty good. Sounds like he has some talent.


He was competing at RG in Minny.

RyFo18 03-15-2013 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9501016)
At the rate Dorseid are signing these players, the #1 pick is going to be a luxury pick.

Exaxctly...as will every draft pick for years to come. So smart.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 05:54 AM

This guy also plays RG so don't get too excited.

In fact most of his starts have been there. He hasn't played RT in awhile.

Micjones 03-15-2013 05:55 AM

Quote:

The Panthers stumbled onto something in Schwartz’ first full year as a starter- much as they did when the departure of Julius Peppers forced Charles Johnson into the lineup. They fortuitously found a guy who could play right tackle and right guard in impressive fashion, impressive enough in fact, that it earned him serious consideration when we announced our Pro Bowl team.
The link.

Micjones 03-15-2013 05:57 AM

Quote:

Geoff Schwartz, OT/ OG

When the Carolina Panthers opted against tendering Schwartz, there was a collective gasp from the PFF team. Sure Ron Rivera wasn’t in charge when Schwartz managed to finish 2010 with a PFF grade of +12.3 despite playing two positions, but it wouldn’t have been hard to watch some tapes and see he’s got more talent than anything they can currently put out on the right side of their line. Schwartz offers the kind of versatility and talent that brings to mind a poor man’s Marshal Yanda; good enough to make him the best right tackle available and possibly the best value guard too. He has a very real chance to be this year’s Evan Mathis for a team with a diligent scouting department.
The link.

Urc Burry 03-15-2013 05:57 AM

Why does he sound familiar? We're we after him last year?

YayMike 03-15-2013 05:57 AM

Unfortunately, i've resigned myself to the fact that if we are stuck at #1 and can't trade down, we will be taking one of the OT. Hopefully we trade down about 3 times, gather some picks and end up with someone like Austin or Patterson around pick 13.

RunKC 03-15-2013 05:57 AM

If he's playing G, I would imagine he's replacing Jeff Allen.

Jeff Allen was got raped hard last year.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2013 05:57 AM

Asamoah is RG. Have to believe they view him as RT. Let me have this hope damn it.

farmerchief 03-15-2013 05:58 AM

Could be moved into the left guard spot, right? Or his more natural right tackle? Doesnt matter, it looks as if we are getting some good quality players added to this team, fighting for starting spots or offering much needed depth, which we havent had for quite some time. If this guy can stay healthy, a very good addition.! IMO

farmerchief 03-15-2013 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 9501027)
Why does he sound familiar? We're we after him last year?

Yes

Micjones 03-15-2013 06:00 AM

He'd be Kansas City's right tackle.

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 06:01 AM

Would love this signing. Big dude. He's also a great follow on twitter (very funny) and he's one of an extremely small number of Jewish players in the NFL.

The Chosen Lineman!

Fritz88 03-15-2013 06:03 AM

Reid is calling all the shots. If Dorsey was a true protege of Thompson, he wouldn't be making all these FA moves. GB didn't sign a single player this FA if I am not mistaken. This is unhealthy.
Posted via Mobile Device

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 06:04 AM

@PFF_Khaled: Geoff Schwartz could prove nice pick up for Chiefs. Vikings averaged 6.7 yards per carry with him at RG, and 4.7 with Fusco.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-15-2013 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9501040)
Reid is calling all the shots. If Dorsey was a true protege of Thompson, he wouldn't be making all these FA moves. GB didn't sign a single player this FA if I am not mistaken. This is unhealthy.
Posted via Mobile Device

Was Woodson a FA?

RunKC 03-15-2013 06:05 AM

Geoff Schwartz ‏@GeoffSchwartz76
Haven't but I'm comfortable in my left stance RT @VikingsFanPage: Have you ever played LG or are you most confident at RG? Just curious.

Bootlegged 03-15-2013 06:06 AM

Watched him play here in Carolina. Solid OL - imagine he would play guard freeing up Allen to move to RT.

Albert - LT
Allen/Stephenson - RT

#1 pick - ???

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9501040)
Reid is calling all the shots. If Dorsey was a true protege of Thompson, he wouldn't be making all these FA moves. GB didn't sign a single player this FA if I am not mistaken. This is unhealthy.
Posted via Mobile Device

GB tried to sign Steven Jackson but lost out to Atlanta.

31PriestWay 03-15-2013 06:07 AM

Your Schwartz is as big as mine

May the Schwartz be with you

Sorry couldn't resist love Spaceballs

siberian khatru 03-15-2013 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9501038)
Would love this signing. Big dude. He's also a great follow on twitter (very funny) and he's one of an extremely small number of Jewish players in the NFL.

The Chosen Lineman!

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ChiliConCarnage 03-15-2013 06:07 AM

hmm. RT would be great. Might be a backup swing lineman/insurance policy for Allen

YayMike 03-15-2013 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9501044)
Geoff Schwartz ‏@GeoffSchwartz76
Haven't but I'm comfortable in my left stance RT @VikingsFanPage: Have you ever played LG or are you most confident at RG? Just curious.

Great news. Plug him at RT, sign Albert long term. Draft the BPA #1 overall.

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 06:08 AM

Geoff Schwartz @GeoffSchwartz76
When am I not? RT @NickHannula: I have a league source that says you're craving a burrito right now

ROFL

I'm telling you - follow this guy on twitter.

RyFo18 03-15-2013 06:09 AM

Andy loves him some big O-linemen.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-15-2013 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9501052)
Geoff Schwartz @GeoffSchwartz76
When am I not? RT @NickHannula: I have a league source that says you're craving a burrito right now

ROFL

I'm telling you - follow this guy on twitter.

Question > Answer

Direckshun 03-15-2013 06:11 AM

Good lord.

Reid is remaking this team at light speed.

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9501054)
Question > Answer

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siberian khatru 03-15-2013 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9501056)
Good lord.

Reid is remaking this team at light speed.

I'm feeling dizzy. Not used to the Chiefs being aggressive in FA.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 06:13 AM

It's clear to me they're going with a power blocking scheme, no?

Maybe a couple of guys we have on the roster don't fit.

And that might actually rule out Joeckel, since he isn't a mauler?

Am I stupid?

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9501061)
It's clear to me they're going with a power blocking scheme, no?

Maybe a couple of guys we have on the roster don't fit.

And that might actually rule out Joeckel, since he isn't a mauler?

Which is why more mocks have been switching to Fisher instead of Joeckel.

We have guys on our roster but many of them (Stephenson, Allen, Hudson, Asamoah) are unproven and have questions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9501061)
Am I stupid?

Yes.

007 03-15-2013 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9501063)



Yes.

:LOL::LOL::LOL:

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 06:18 AM

Nothing not to like here. He hasn't played many snaps the rest of his career.

http://i.imgur.com/L1vvX6T.jpg

BigRock 03-15-2013 06:20 AM

I talked to a Panthers nut I know when we were looking at him last year. He played RT in college and started there with Carolina, but during the 2010 season they moved him to RG because the previous RG sucked. Then he missed 2011 with an injury.

So a year ago the only guard experience he had was however many games he had there in 2010 after they moved him. Since we'd signed Winston, it didn't seem likely we wanted him at RT. But his resume at guard was awfully small. But if he played guard for the Vikings then presumably he could do either.

Well, this cleared up nothing.

RunKC 03-15-2013 06:20 AM

Albert/Schwartz/Hudson/Asamoah/Fisher

That would be an interesting line for sure.

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 06:21 AM

We also lack depth. Severely

Albert
Hudson
Allen
Asamoah
Stephenson
Hochstein
Mattison
Durand
Lilja
Patterson
Ranglin

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-15-2013 06:23 AM

Listen, we're trying to get a handle on this thing../through the mustache

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 06:24 AM

Well, if this guy is our starting RT, at least it shows Reid isn't a dumbass who wants to reach for/overpay a RT.

It also might indicate a very good reason why Winston was dumped...simply doesn't fit a power blocking scheme.

RunKC 03-15-2013 06:25 AM

They were just in Oregon yesterday for the pro day. Gotta wonder if they are giving Dion Jordan a look at #1 since our pass rush sucks ass.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2013 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9501074)
They were just in Oregon yesterday for the pro day. Gotta wonder if they are giving Dion Jordan a look at #1 since our pass rush sucks ass.

Yeah connecting the dots it kind of makes sense

penbrook 03-15-2013 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9501074)
They were just in Oregon yesterday for the pro day. Gotta wonder if they are giving Dion Jordan a look at #1 since our pass rush sucks ass.

Dion Jordan was injured. They werent looking at him. They were looking at Kyle Long.

RunKC 03-15-2013 06:29 AM

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout
OG Geoff Schwartz is visiting Kansas City today.

JFC this guy just won't come off it. He thinks we're drafting an OT no matter what we do. I hope we draft someone else just to make him look bad.

DaKCMan AP 03-15-2013 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9501079)
Dion Jordan was injured. They werent looking at him. They were looking at Kyle Long.

& Kiko Alonso

penbrook 03-15-2013 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9501081)
& Kiko Alonso

Yea in the later rounds for ILB depth.

RunKC 03-15-2013 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9501081)
& Kiko Alonso

I would love Kyle Long but I think he'll be long gone by the time we pick in round 3.

Jerm 03-15-2013 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9501079)
Dion Jordan was injured. They werent looking at him. They were looking at Kyle Long.

You don't send the HC, GM, and a large contingent of the defensive staff for Kyle Long....sorry.

penbrook 03-15-2013 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 9501084)
You don't send the HC, GM, and a large contingent of the defensive staff for Kyle Long....sorry.

Well Dion Jordan didnt even do anything at his Pro Day. He sat out.

CoMoChief 03-15-2013 06:34 AM

jeez....Dorsey isn't fididdling around in FA.

chiefzilla1501 03-15-2013 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 9501084)
You don't send the HC, GM, and a large contingent of the defensive staff for Kyle Long....sorry.

Could be a smoke screen

AussieChiefsFan 03-15-2013 06:35 AM

All this FA activity is great. It's almost like..... They care!

007 03-15-2013 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9501091)
All this FA activity is great. It's almost like..... They care!

Cautiously optimistic

penbrook 03-15-2013 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9501089)
jeez....Dorsey isn't fididdling around in FA.

Yep they also had a defensive player in here 2 nights ago and it wasnt Sean Smith.

Jerm 03-15-2013 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9501088)
Well Dion Jordan didnt even do anything at his Pro Day. He sat out.

He met with Reid...I'm sure they all spoke with him and went over film, grilled him, etc.

I'd be surprised if it was for any other reason...

chiefzilla1501 03-15-2013 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9501040)
Reid is calling all the shots. If Dorsey was a true protege of Thompson, he wouldn't be making all these FA moves. GB didn't sign a single player this FA if I am not mistaken. This is unhealthy.
Posted via Mobile Device

I sense Clark hunt is telling him he can build for the future, but he has got to start winning games now. I am ok with that philosophy and don't feel like we've made a lot of deals that are going to destroy our long term cap. These moves really just buy Dorsey time to build through scrappy moves future forward.

penbrook 03-15-2013 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9501097)
I sense Clark hunt is telling him he can build for the future, but he has got to start winning games now. I am ok with that philosophy and don't feel like we've made a lot of deals that are going to destroy our long term cap. These moves really just buy Dorsey time to build through scrappy moves future forward.

Hes bringing in players of need and picking depth in the draft it looks like. Hell if Geno is bpa than hes the pick.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 06:41 AM

If Schwartz is our RT.....

HOW CAN THEY NOT TAKE GENO?

I MEAN **** DEFENSIVE LINEMEN

J Diddy 03-15-2013 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9501091)
All this FA activity is great. It's almost like..... They care!

or trying to fill out a roster before the draft so they can draft the BPA like they said they would

AussieChiefsFan 03-15-2013 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9501099)
Hes bringing in players of need and picking depth in the draft it looks like. Hell if Geno is bpa than hes the pick.

Just the thought of it.....

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 06:44 AM

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Lex Luthor 03-15-2013 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9501040)
Reid is calling all the shots. If Dorsey was a true protege of Thompson, he wouldn't be making all these FA moves. GB didn't sign a single player this FA if I am not mistaken. This is unhealthy.
Posted via Mobile Device

Yes, we should keep our 2-14 team the same as it was last year. :spock:

Direckshun 03-15-2013 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9501100)
If Schwartz is our RT.....

HOW CAN THEY NOT TAKE GENO?

I MEAN **** DEFENSIVE LINEMEN

Alex Smith 8.5m

Chase Daniel 3.5m

That's how.

cookster50 03-15-2013 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9501067)
Nothing not to like here. He hasn't played many snaps the rest of his career.

Well crap, if he isn't going to play many snaps the rest of his career, we don't need him!

candyman 03-15-2013 06:53 AM

Great. Him and Abdullah are going to have it out in training camp

Hoover 03-15-2013 06:53 AM

I think Reid and Dorsey are being so active in free agency for two reasons. One, this team lacked depth at almost every position, we also had a number of holes to fill after they released some players. Two, Dorsey might be more active in free agency for the reason mentioned above but also because he wants to implement his BAA for the draft. You can't do that when there are holes all over a roster.

It's an exciting time to be a Chiefs fan. We are making moves to be competitive now, while also having an eye to the future as far as the draft is concerned.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2013 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9501111)
Alex Smith 8.5m

Chase Daniel 3.5m

That's how.

There's just no way any DL in this draft has greater value than Geno.

JUST NO WAY AT ALL.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-15-2013 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9501111)
Alex Smith 8.5m

Chase Daniel 3.5m

That's how.

So Geno would get something around 7. That's 19 million invested in the most important position on the field, and less than 10% of the overall cap. Doesn't seem outrageous to me. There are starters who make that scratch.

AussieChiefsFan 03-15-2013 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9501117)
There's just no way any DL in this draft has greater value than Geno.

JUST NO WAY AT ALL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9501118)
So Geno would get something around 7. That's 19 million invested in the most important position on the field, and less than 10% of the overall cap. Doesn't seem outrageous to me. There are starters who make that scratch.

These

Chiefs=Champions 03-15-2013 06:55 AM

Wet dream - they sign this guy to play rt. Cannot trade down so they just pick Geno.

YayMike 03-15-2013 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9501117)
There's just no way any DL in this draft has greater value than Geno.

JUST NO WAY AT ALL.

Agreed completely. If signed, this could reawaken the hope of the Smith Trinity to KC!

bevischief 03-15-2013 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 9501093)
Cautiously optimistic

This.

Deberg_1990 03-15-2013 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9501116)
I think Reid and Dorsey are being so active in free agency for two reasons. One, this team lacked depth at almost every position, we also had a number of holes to fill after they released some players. Two, Dorsey might be more active in free agency for the reason mentioned above but also because he wants to implement his BAA for the draft. You can't do that when there are holes all over a roster.

It's an exciting time to be a Chiefs fan. We are making moves to be competitive now, while also having an eye to the future as far as the draft is concerned.

They are being so active because they were brought in by Clark to stop the bleeding right now. Not next year, or the season after. I think Clark was tired of seeing whats happened to this franchise over the past decade and loss of $$$$.

I fully expect this team to turn it around and win at least 8 or 9 games.


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