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Carlota69 03-28-2013 02:59 PM

I interviewed Joe Elliott of Def Leppard today
 
He came into the studio and hung out with me for about 20 mins. Dude loves to talk. makes my job easier...

he came to chat about the Viva Hysteria Residency at the Joint. if interested, heres the audio...

http://www.komp.com/play_window.php?...udioId=6301716

Mr. Laz 03-28-2013 03:01 PM

nice :thumb:

Demonpenz 03-28-2013 03:03 PM

what has 7 arms and sucks...Def lepard.

alpha_omega 03-28-2013 03:12 PM

Not a big fan, but Carlota sure does have a cool job.

Carlota69 03-28-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 9536040)
Not a big fan, but Carlota sure does have a cool job.

I do. Im blessed.:)

BlackHelicopters 03-28-2013 03:17 PM

Kewl. Lucky duck. Jealous.

AdumbGuy 03-28-2013 03:23 PM

impressive

ChiefsOne 03-28-2013 03:27 PM

That's cool and a fun gig for you Carlota. While in college I worked for a concert promoter as security, hospitality and chauffeur. I had a great time being around the bands.

Carlota69 03-28-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsOne (Post 9536090)
That's cool and a fun gig for you Carlota. While in college I worked for a concert promoter as security, hospitality and chauffeur. I had a great time being around the bands.

So, as you know, this beats working..o:-)

HemiEd 03-28-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536050)
I do. Im blessed.:)

I take it you are no longer broadcasting from your bedroom?:D

Gonzo 03-28-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9536024)
what has 7 arms and sucks...Def lepard.

Hey now, a lot of people would give their left arm to play in Def Leppard.

Carlota69 03-28-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AdumbGuy (Post 9536073)
impressive

Thanks. Dude makes it easy tho. I basically had to end it when he could of sat there and talked more. LOL. Love when that happens.

Carlota69 03-28-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9536110)
I take it you are no longer broadcasting from your bedroom?:D

No, Im back in studio. But boy, doing the gig from home was awesome;)

HemiEd 03-28-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536116)
No, Im back in studio. But boy, doing the gig from home was awesome;)

I know you enjoyed it.

How long did you do that, a couple of weeks?

ChiefsOne 03-28-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536109)
So, as you know, this beats working..o:-)

Yes, it does! Even at my age it would be fun to do it again, although I haven't had a hard job in over 20 years!

Iowanian 03-28-2013 03:43 PM

You should have only asked him questions that are directly from their songs.

Carlota69 03-28-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9536123)
I know you enjoyed it.

How long did you do that, a couple of weeks?

No, just one. I was off for a week and half, then we did the show from my house for a week. Back in studio 2 1/2 weeks after surgery. Was so cool of my work to bring out all the equipment and make it happen.

Carlota69 03-28-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9536127)
You should have only asked him questions that are directly from their songs.

Good idea. like, "So, joe, do you prefer processed sugar? orare you a cane juice, stevia, honey kind of guy ?? maybe Nutrsweet?"

HemiEd 03-28-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536129)
No, just one. I was off for a week and half, then we did the show from my house for a week. Back in studio 2 1/2 weeks after surgery. Was so cool of my work to bring out all the equipment and make it happen.

They obviously think a lot of what you do, that is a very good thing.

Carlota69 03-28-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9536138)
They obviously think a lot of what you do, that is a very good thing.

Im very lucky to work for the company...very lucky.

Iowanian 03-28-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536135)
Good idea. like, "So, joe, do you prefer processed sugar? orare you a cane juice, stevia, honey kind of guy ?? maybe Nutrsweet?"

"Hot or Sticky Sweet?"

"Have you ever needed someone so bad......"

Easy 6 03-28-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9536127)
You should have only asked him questions that are directly from their songs.

LMAO

Joe, are you getting it, really getting it?

Joe, c'mon what do you want, what dooo ya want?

Ace Gunner 03-28-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536050)
I do. Im blessed.:)

okay. but god does not exist.

PRIEST 03-28-2013 04:36 PM

I want your job .

Mi_chief_fan 03-28-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536135)
Good idea. like, "So, joe, do you prefer processed sugar? orare you a cane juice, stevia, honey kind of guy ?? maybe Nutrsweet?"

Do you wanna get rocked?

MahiMike 03-28-2013 04:57 PM

Did you get an autographed 'photograph'?

lcarus 03-28-2013 06:01 PM

Should have asked him what the lyric in "Rocket" is. You know..."Rocket. Yeah. looby-do-do doobie doobie da". I've always wondered just what in the **** he's saying there. I could just look it up on google I guess...

GloryDayz 03-28-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536014)
He came into the studio and hung out with me for about 20 mins. Dude loves to talk. makes my job easier...

he came to chat about the Viva Hysteria Residency at the Joint. if interested, heres the audio...

http://www.komp.com/play_window.php?...udioId=6301716

Awesome day at the office (at home)!!! :thumb:

Deberg_1990 03-28-2013 06:54 PM

Did you ask him why Love Bites sucks so hard?

Simply Red 03-28-2013 07:02 PM

I bet you'd love to book an interview with Mr. West Virginia Chocolate Pinis.

Halfcan 03-28-2013 07:04 PM

Did you ask him why they stopped playing Rock and Roll after High and Dry?

They have not had a good album out since.

Cannibal 03-28-2013 07:04 PM

Did you blow him?

Simply Red 03-28-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9536542)
Did you ask him why they stopped playing Rock and Roll after High and Dry?

They have not had a good album out since.

Isn't that the case w/ that whole genre? If you can't somewhat adapt to style change, you're screwed. Best be able to appeal to a few different audiences too, or you'll end up the musical artists' equivalent to Matt Cassel trying to QB an NFL team.

Simply Red 03-28-2013 07:09 PM

is Carlota69 female? I never can remember...

Deberg_1990 03-28-2013 07:10 PM

Did you ask him how he intends to pay back for his crimes against humanity by agreeing to do this?




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Carlota69 03-28-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9536564)
is Carlota69 female? I never can remember...

Asked the guy named after a bundle of sticksgity band.

Simply Red 03-28-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536570)
Asked the guy named after a pillowbitergity band.

I didn't realize we were talking noise - why did your pussy suddenly get sand in it?

Deberg_1990 03-28-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536570)
Asked the guy named after a pillowbitergity band.

Holdin back the years......ill keep...holdin on.........

Demonpenz 03-28-2013 07:27 PM

love bites!!

Rasputin 03-28-2013 07:42 PM

Why did you not pour surgar on Joe Eliott he asks you too pour surgar on him?

Brock 03-28-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9536570)
Asked the guy named after a pillowbitergity band.

Not a Breakfast Club fan I see.

tecumseh 03-28-2013 08:05 PM

Thats a pretty snappy deal, Carlota. Joe Elliott was decent in the Highn'dry era. Very ambitious dude. Wanted to shit can everyone but Sav after Pyromania. Almost got his wish though not the way he intended.

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tecumseh (Post 9536692)
Thats a pretty snappy deal, Carlota. Joe Elliott was decent in the Highn'dry era. Very ambitious dude. Wanted to shit can everyone but Sav after Pyromania. Almost got his wish though not the way he intended.

That is absolutely untrue.

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 08:55 PM

I had friends that went to the opening show at the Joint that were absolutely blown away. Not only did the band sound great but they looked great, too. Phil Collen is 55 years old and ripped from head to toe. These guys aren't amateurs.

Def Leppard has a long history. They were a rock band from the beginning. Their second record, which was produced by Mutt Lange, showcased their future. They fired Pete Willis after writing most of Pyromania because he was an alcoholic, which is ironic because he's still alive and Steve Clark, the other alcoholic guitarist in DL, is dead.

When they went into the studio for Hysteria, they wanted to create something epic. That record took more than 3 years to record, more than 100 vocal tracks in many songs, and is viewed by people inside the music industry as a masterpiece. The record company spent more than $5 million dollars to record that album and were rewarded with riches nearly 30 fold.

In full disclosure, I didn't like Pyromania or Hysteria at the time of their respective releases. I thought they were too electronic sounding and too phony.

Now, I view them as master works of the era. Congrats, Carlotta, for an entertaining interview!

spades 03-28-2013 08:58 PM

Horrible band

Why would anyone care what this idiot has to say?

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spades (Post 9536891)
Horrible band

Why would anyone care what this idiot has to say?

Yeah, they're so horrible that they've sold more than 100 MILLION records.

tecumseh 03-28-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9536881)
I had friends that went to the opening show at the Joint that were absolutely blown away. Not only did the band sound great but they looked great, too. Phil Collen is 55 years old and ripped from head to toe. These guys aren't amateurs.

Def Leppard has a long history. They were a rock band from the beginning. Their second record, which was produced by Mutt Lange, showcased their future. They fired Pete Willis after writing most of Pyromania because he was an alcoholic, which is ironic because he's still alive and Steve Clark, the other alcoholic guitarist in DL, is dead.

When they went into the studio for Hysteria, they wanted to create something epic. That record took more than 3 years to record, more than 100 vocal tracks in many songs, and is viewed by people inside the music industry as a masterpiece. The record company spent more than $5 million dollars to record that album and were rewarded with riches nearly 30 fold.

In full disclosure, I didn't like Pyromania or Hysteria at the time of their respective releases. I thought they were too electronic sounding and too phony.

Now, I view them as master works of the era. Congrats, Carlotta, for an entertaining interview!

I got my information from a documentary on the band produced by BBC. The band's management from their start through their greatest successes was interviewed and stated that Joe Elliott was the driving force of the band and most ambitious. After the success of Highn Dry he began to complain about most of his band mates , when someone would piss him off he'd want that person fired. The management just laughed it off. Sometimes you should reference beyond wikipedia.

spades 03-28-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9536894)
Yeah, they're so horrible that they've sold more than 100 MILLION records.

Brittany Spears has sold a lot of records. Doesn't mean her music is good

Dayze 03-28-2013 09:29 PM

I hate Def Leopard.

from all those years of my brother playing the record over and over and over and over and over agagin. since I was 8 I've hated them.

MOhillbilly 03-28-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9536894)
Yeah, they're so horrible that they've sold more than 100 MILLION records.

People are ****ing sheep.

I'm no exception as I purchased pyromania circa 83'.

Thought I was cool shit rockin with my one speaker " boom box".

NewChief 03-28-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9536993)
I hate Def Leopard.

from all those years of my brother playing the record over and over and over and over and over agagin. since I was 8 I've hated them.

This. I honestly wish I wasn't like this, but I pretty much can't stand any of the music I grew up on. Occasionally it's fun to listen to stuff like that in a sort of posturing reliving my youth way... But I'm constantly looking for new (to me) music instead of reliving the oldies.

For instance, I was a huge Led Zeppelin fan, but I pretty much instantly switch the station if they come on. I think they're a great band. Their music is super important. I can hardly listen to them now though.

MOhillbilly 03-28-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9536993)
I hate Def Leopard.

from all those years of my brother playing the record over and over and over and over and over agagin. since I was 8 I've hated them.

Pipe down Bukowski!

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecumseh (Post 9536962)
I got my information from a documentary on the band produced by BBC. The band's management from their start through their greatest successes was interviewed and stated that Joe Elliott was the driving force of the band and most ambitious. After the success of Highn Dry he began to complain about most of his band mates , when someone would piss him off he'd want that person fired. The management just laughed it off. Sometimes you should reference beyond wikipedia.

You're misinterpreting the information.

Pete Willis WAS fired and replaced with Phil Collen because he was an alcoholic, late for rehearsals, songwriting sessions, etc. The guy sells real estate now.

Joe didn't want Rick Allen fired nor Steve Clark or Savage fired. That's complete and utter nonsense.

After Clark's death, they only wanted a British guitarist, due to their chemistry, so no American guitarists were even considered. They eventually settled on Vivian Campbell, but he's only a paid player and not a full member. The runner up is a very good friend of mine that went on to work with Alanis Morrisette for years and is now a successful producer in his own right.

And quite honestly, he's a better guitarist.

Dayze 03-28-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9537022)
This. I honestly wish I wasn't like this, but I pretty much can't stand any of the music I grew up on. Occasionally it's fun to listen to stuff like that in a sort of posturing reliving my youth way... But I'm constantly looking for new (to me) music instead of reliving the oldies.

For instance, I was a huge Led Zeppelin fan, but I pretty much instantly switch the station if they come on. I think they're a great band. Their music is super important. I can hardly listen to them now though.

It's odd.
I heard Van Halen I/II/Fair Warning, Rush, Led Zeppelin, ACDC, Pink Floyd, Sabbath, DIO etc, coming out of my brothers' rooms for years.

I'm not tired of any of them; not sure why Def Leopard rubs me the wrong way.

MahiMike 03-28-2013 09:42 PM

Why would anybody rag on Def Leopard? They rock!

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9537066)
not sure why Def Leopard rubs me the wrong way.

Because at heart, they're a Pop band. They're not rock, they're not metal, they're not alternative and they're certainly not punk.

They're a pop band with tons of vocals and vocal harmonies.

Pop.

NewChief 03-28-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9537066)
It's odd.
I heard Van Halen I/II/Fair Warning, Rush, Led Zeppelin, ACDC, Pink Floyd, Sabbath, DIO etc, coming out of my brothers' rooms for years.

I'm not tired of any of them; not sure why Def Leopard rubs me the wrong way.

Yeah. All those bands are sort of on my change the station list (not Sabbath). I will say that I'm starting to enjoy exposing my kids to them now though. What kid shouldn't have to listen to his dad belt out every word to any random classic rock song that comes on the radio?

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9537069)
Why would anybody rag on Def Leopard? They rock!

Says all the girls in their stonewashed jeans.

:D

tecumseh 03-28-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9537049)
You're misinterpreting the information.

Pete Willis WAS fired and replaced with Phil Collen because he was an alcoholic, late for rehearsals, songwriting sessions, etc. The guy sells real estate now.

Joe didn't want Rick Allen fired nor Steve Clark or Savage fired. That's complete and utter nonsense.

After Clark's death, they only wanted a British guitarist, due to their chemistry, so no American guitarists were even considered. They eventually settled on Vivian Campbell, but he's only a paid player and not a full member. The runner up is a very good friend of mine that went on to work with Alanis Morrisette for years and is now a successful producer in his own right.

And quite honestly, he's a better guitarist.

Just commenting on the info I got from the Documentary. Not nonsense. The guy really made these statements about Joe Elliott , but then again you'll probably pull out some secretary from the management company to refute this post so I'll just bow to the CP rock historian.

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecumseh (Post 9537153)
Just commenting on the info I got from the Documentary. Not nonsense. The guy really made these statements about Joe Elliott , but then again you'll probably pull out some secretary from the management company to refute this post so I'll just bow to the CP rock historian.

FTR, I'm not claiming that what you saw and what you've related is incorrect, I'm stating that the doc was incorrect.

No offense to you, personally.

:thumb:

COchief 03-28-2013 10:23 PM

Just want to throw it out there, would be nice if this Dane was around more often...

I'm sure you posted it a million times, but what exactly do you do in the entertainment business?

patteeu 03-28-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9537022)
This. I honestly wish I wasn't like this, but I pretty much can't stand any of the music I grew up on. Occasionally it's fun to listen to stuff like that in a sort of posturing reliving my youth way... But I'm constantly looking for new (to me) music instead of reliving the oldies.

For instance, I was a huge Led Zeppelin fan, but I pretty much instantly switch the station if they come on. I think they're a great band. Their music is super important. I can hardly listen to them now though.

I'm the same way. I did listen to a dozen Def Leppard songs this afternoon after seeing this thread though. I'd imagine that will last me for quite a while.

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 9537255)
Just want to throw it out there, would be nice if this Dane was around more often...

I'm sure you posted it a million times, but what exactly do you do in the entertainment business?

I was at Universal from 1993-1997 and Paramount from 1997-2003. I continue to work in the music side independently to this day.

What is your question, exactly?

BigMeatballDave 03-28-2013 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9537049)
You're misinterpreting the information.

Pete Willis WAS fired and replaced with Phil Collen because he was an alcoholic, late for rehearsals, songwriting sessions, etc. The guy sells real estate now.

Joe didn't want Rick Allen fired nor Steve Clark or Savage fired. That's complete and utter nonsense.

After Clark's death, they only wanted a British guitarist, due to their chemistry, so no American guitarists were even considered. They eventually settled on Vivian Campbell, but he's only a paid player and not a full member. The runner up is a very good friend of mine that went on to work with Alanis Morrisette for years and is now a successful producer in his own right.

And quite honestly, he's a better guitarist.

Campbell is not a 'full' member? He was brought on over 20 years ago.

patteeu 03-28-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9537286)
Campbell is not a 'full' member? He was brought on over 20 years ago.

Give it time. Don't rush things.

COchief 03-28-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 9537255)
What exactly do you do in the entertainment business?

Producer, musician, talent scout, agent, engineer?

Simply Red 03-28-2013 10:37 PM

Has anyone ever licked a chick's ass?

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9537286)
Campbell is not a 'full' member? He was brought on over 20 years ago.

Hired gun. He gets a salary when they tour and that's it. The guy plays in local clubs with shitty cover bands.

This isn't uncommon. For example, Zakk Wylde was an employee and never shared in royalties. He was paid when he recorded and toured. That's it.

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 9537293)
Producer, musician, talent scout, agent, engineer?

Are you being serious or just acting like an asshole?

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9537290)
Give it time. Don't rush things.

LMAO

COchief 03-28-2013 10:40 PM

Serious. I have a friend who is an audio engineer for Warren Miller and he has some amazing stories from over the years.

cosmo20002 03-28-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9537093)
Because at heart, they're a Pop band. They're not rock, they're not metal, they're not alternative and they're certainly not punk.

They're a pop band with tons of vocals and vocal harmonies.

Pop.

And Joe Elliott sounds absolutely horrible live.

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COchief (Post 9537312)
Serious. I have a friend who is an audio engineer for Warren Miller and he has some amazing stories from over the years.

Oh, that's cool!

I worked in the music division of MCA/Uni/Geffen and Paramount's Famous Division (which has since been sold to Sony).

I'm not going to disclose everything in this thread but yes, I continue to work in the music business to this day. PM me if you're serious and will promise to keep any info private.

Warren Miller films kick ass and he's always been kind to emerging artists.

BigMeatballDave 03-28-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9537321)
And Joe Elliott sounds absolutely horrible live.

He's getting old. He didn't sound that good 25 years ago, either.

Have you heard Geddy Lee live lately. Yikes. It's a good thing Rush is still excellent instrumentally.

patteeu 03-28-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9537333)
Oh, that's cool!

I worked in the music division of MCA/Uni/Geffen and Paramount's Famous Division (which has since been sold to Sony).

I'm not going to disclose everything in this thread but yes, I continue to work in the music business to this day. PM me if you're serious and will promise to keep any info private.

Warren Miller films kick ass and he's always been kind to emerging artists.

Come on, Dane. I'm sure everyone here will keep your info private. No need to be reticent. :p

tk13 03-28-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9537343)
He's getting old. He didn't sound that good 25 years ago, either.

Have you heard Geddy Lee live lately. Yikes. It's a good thing Rush is still excellent instrumentally.

Halfcan will be along shortly to bludgeon you in the face with Neil Peart's drumsticks.

DaneMcCloud 03-28-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9537347)
Come on, Dane. I'm sure everyone here will keep your info private. No need to be reticent. :p

LMAO

Simply Red 03-28-2013 10:52 PM

Def Leppard is no longer good, they're older and haven't adapted to change, Steven Tyler from Aerosmith has been smart enough to keep himself marketable.

Besides when it comes to rock - most went from Motorhead to LA Guns then to Metallica - then Ministry and then took off onto the road less traveled listening to other artists such as Primus, Overkill, Fugazi The Butthole Surfers, etc etc.. I had a hard problem not turning my head on that Ratt sound, once 1988 passed, quite honestly. Though I had it at the time, Out of the Cellar was a great piece of work, back then.

Most never could convert, Bon Jovi - laugh all you want, was one that could self-market himself throughout time.

I think the ear needs to get away from that style of rock - it's ok to reminisce too - or whatever, but that style won't be considered 'classic' for about 7 or 8 more years, then at that time a re-visit MAY be necessary, but it may even be longer than that.

I can give the rockers shit - they give the people who like hip hop and breakbeat shit all of the time. Besides I still like some rock, but usually the road less traveled.

BigMeatballDave 03-28-2013 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9537351)
Halfcan will be along shortly to bludgeon you in the face with Neil Peart's drumsticks.

LMAO I love Rush, but Lee cannot sing anymore.

tk13 03-28-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9537366)
LMAO I love Rush, but Lee cannot sing anymore.

You're playing with fire now. He's going to play YYZ across your face.


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