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DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 12:42 AM

LL and EVH
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NG0s...layer_embedded

T-post Tom 03-29-2013 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9537561)

The brown sound mutates. Interesting.

Omaha 03-29-2013 08:04 AM

I love the comment that someone made:

"This is worse thing Eddie Van Halen has ever done... with that being said I still like LL Cool J more than Sammy Hagar!"

Silock 03-29-2013 08:08 AM

Is this what we're replacing waterboarding with?

patteeu 03-29-2013 08:18 AM

I like this song more:

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Demonpenz 03-29-2013 01:27 PM

Lyle Lovitt and EVH?

Halfcan 03-29-2013 01:40 PM

EVH has one of the best guitar sounds ever. I jsut don't understand why he does not create some new musice. He gets back with Roth and just re does old 70' demos? He has time to do this crap but not Rock out with his badass Son on some new tunes??

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9538449)
EVH has one of the best guitar sounds ever. I jsut don't understand why he does not create some new musice. He gets back with Roth and just re does old 70' demos? He has time to do this crap but not Rock out with his badass Son on some new tunes??

His "new" guitar sound sucks ass, IMO. It's too modern, too scooped and too distorted.

Eddie doesn't write music. If it weren't for Wolfgang, the original Van Halen would have never reunited in 2007 or put out that shitty record in 2012.

Halfcan 03-30-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9538513)
His "new" guitar sound sucks ass, IMO. It's too modern, too scooped and too distorted.

Eddie doesn't write music. If it weren't for Wolfgang, the original Van Halen would have never reunited in 2007 or put out that shitty record in 2012.

I agree- when the only new song on that was Stay Frosty- whats the point?

Oh yeah Money and touring-lol

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9541145)
I agree- when the only new song on that was Stay Frosty- whats the point?

Oh yeah Money and touring-lol

Yeah, their 2012 touring grossed $54 million dollars.

Bowser 03-30-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541422)
Yeah, their 2012 touring grossed $54 million dollars.

I admit I ponied up the $175 to see them at Sprint Center. I did it only becasue I had never seen Van Halen with Dave in concert.

That's the last time I'll be doing that.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9541442)
I admit I ponied up the $175 to see them at Sprint Center. I did it only becasue I had never seen Van Halen with Dave in concert.

That's the last time I'll be doing that.

How is that venue for music? I've had friends tell me that the seats are too close together and uncomfortable.

The last time I saw Van Halen with Dave was 1984. I went both nights at Kemper and it was amazing. I vividly remember both shows, although they were nearly identical.

Man, what a party!

Bowser 03-30-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541446)
How is that venue for music? I've had friends tell me that the seats are too close together and uncomfortable.

The last time I saw Van Halen with Dave was 1984. I went both nights at Kemper and it was amazing. I vividly remember both shows, although they were nearly identical.

Man, what a party!

It's ok, kind of. Your friends are right saying that the seats are too close. You do feel a bit like a sardine in there. The steps feel a bit steeper, as well.
Maybe that's just me getting older? :D

IMO, the accoustics of the place are just......off, somehow. The shows that I've seen in there don't have the same sound as they did in Kemper to me. Everything is just a bit too distorted, or a bit too loud, or a bit too soft....

Sprint Center is nice and new and shiny, and all of that, but I'm not so sure that it's a better venue for rock concerts than Kemper was.

Bowser 03-30-2013 01:29 PM

And yeah, that would have been a hell raising good time to see Van Halen in their prime for the 1984 album.....

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9541464)
It's ok, kind of. Your friends are right saying that the seats are too close. You do feel a bit like a sardine in there. The steps feel a bit steeper, as well.
Maybe that's just me getting older? :D

IMO, the accoustics of the place are just......off, somehow. The shows that I've seen in there don't have the same sound as they did in Kemper to me. Everything is just a bit too distorted, or a bit too loud, or a bit too soft....

Sprint Center is nice and new and shiny, and all of that, but I'm not so sure that it's a better venue for rock concerts than Kemper was.

Wow, that's a bummer but it's not that surprising because acoustically, I feel the same about Staples Center, which is also an AEG building. The Forum was a great place to see bands, although my favorite indoor venues are Nokia Live and the Gibson at Universal. Both have been painstakingly acoustically designed and treated, making the sound phenomenal.

Kemper was always a good venue and the only band that I found that was too loud was Metallica, when they opened for Ozzy back like in 1986/1987. My friends and I went out to the concourse and could hear them more clearly than in the arena. Way too loud.

patteeu 03-30-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541446)
How is that venue for music? I've had friends tell me that the seats are too close together and uncomfortable.

The last time I saw Van Halen with Dave was 1984. I went both nights at Kemper and it was amazing. I vividly remember both shows, although they were nearly identical.

Man, what a party!

Fat midwest friends?

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9541464)
It's ok, kind of. Your friends are right saying that the seats are too close. You do feel a bit like a sardine in there. The steps feel a bit steeper, as well.
Maybe that's just me getting older? :D

IMO, the accoustics of the place are just......off, somehow. The shows that I've seen in there don't have the same sound as they did in Kemper to me. Everything is just a bit too distorted, or a bit too loud, or a bit too soft....

Sprint Center is nice and new and shiny, and all of that, but I'm not so sure that it's a better venue for rock concerts than Kemper was.

I think that's a plus (as long as you don't take a tumble). It means you get a better, closer view of the stage even when you're in the nose bleed seats.

The only concert I've seen at Sprint was Pearl Jam and I didn't really notice the seats being uncomfortably small (but that doesn't mean they aren't, compared to places I haven't been, of course). In general, I hate big arena shows and I'm not a fan of big arena ticket prices either. Give me the Uptown, Knuckleheads, the Beaumont Club or the Record Bar any day over an arena.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9541491)
Fat midwest friends?

LMAO

You know, I was going to qualify that by stating that no, the people who've told me this are not fat, but I decided against it.

My bad.

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9541491)
The only concert I've seen at Sprint was Pearl Jam and I didn't really notice the seats being uncomfortably small (but that doesn't mean they aren't, compared to places I haven't been, of course). In general, I hate big arena shows and I'm not a fan of big arena ticket prices either. Give me the Uptown, Knuckleheads, the Beaumont Club or the Record Bar any day over an arena.

I'm with you. The largest indoor venue that I enjoy these days is about 5,000 people max. Nokia Live and the Gibson are both very, very comfortable venues that sound great.

But nothing compares to the Hollywood Bowl and the Greek Theater. It's an indescribable feeling to watch phenomenal performances outdoors, under a blanket of stars, with incredible acoustics to boot.

patteeu 03-30-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541498)
I'm with you. The largest indoor venue that I enjoy these days is about 5,000 people max. Nokia Live and the Gibson are both very, very comfortable venues that sound great.

But nothing compares to the Hollywood Bowl and the Greek Theater. It's an indescribable feeling to watch phenomenal performances outdoors, under a blanket of stars, with incredible acoustics to boot.

I bet those places are great.

My dad would never even try lobster because he thought there was no sense in acquiring a taste for it when beef was cheaper. I'm sure the places where I see shows don't come close to those places when it comes to acoustics, but since I've never experienced better, they work for me just like beef worked for my dad. :)

WilliamTheIrish 03-30-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541446)
How is that venue for music? I've had friends tell me that the seats are too close together and uncomfortable.

The last time I saw Van Halen with Dave was 1984. I went both nights at Kemper and it was amazing. I vividly remember both shows, although they were nearly identical.

Man, what a party!

Haha! Night 1 for me.

The Sprint Center seats are a little close. Not bad, a great venue. Acoustics seem a little rough to me. Maybe it's my ears. I've seen 10 or 12 shows there but don't have a "great" acoustical venue to compare it against.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9541512)
I bet those places are great.

My dad would never even try lobster because he thought there was no sense in acquiring a taste for it when beef was cheaper. I'm sure the places where I see shows don't come close to those places when it comes to acoustics, but since I've never experienced better, they work for me just like beef worked for my dad. :)

If you're a fan of John Williams, there's nothing better than him conducting the "Music of Movies" under the stars at the Hollywood Bowl.

Hearing "Darth Vader's Theme" at the Bowl with John Williams conducting the L.A. Philharmonic is as close to Heaven on Earth as it gets for me.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9541534)
Haha! Night 1 for me.

The Sprint Center seats are a little close. Not bad, a great venue. Acoustics seem a little rough to me. Maybe it's my ears. I've seen 10 or 12 shows there but don't have a "great" acoustical venue to compare it against.

I've been told (so take it FWIW) by people that I trust that the Voodoo Lounge at Harrah's is the best music venue in town, acoustically speaking.

Have any of you guys seen any show there?

WilliamTheIrish 03-30-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541563)
I've been told (so take it FWIW) by people that I trust that the Voodoo Lounge at Harrah's is the best music venue in town, acoustically speaking.

Have any of you guys seen any show there?

Not yet. But a lot of good acts go through there.

Brock 03-30-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541563)
I've been told (so take it FWIW) by people that I trust that the Voodoo Lounge at Harrah's is the best music venue in town, acoustically speaking.

Have any of you guys seen any show there?

Hope it's good, I'm going to see Black Crowes there, but then I'm about half deaf at this point.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9541584)
Hope it's good, I'm going to see Black Crowes there, but then I'm about half deaf at this point.

Cool, please post a review after the show.

Sorry about the half deaf thing. That sucks.

Brock 03-30-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541595)
Cool, please post a review after the show.

Sorry about the half deaf thing. That sucks.

Not really, just a constant ringing. too many front row shows.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9541606)
Not really, just a constant ringing. too many front row shows.

Tinnitus?

Bowser 03-30-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541612)
Tinnitus?

*raises hand* (I think, kind of)

Brock 03-30-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541612)
Tinnitus?

I think so. Cannot hear real high frequencies at all. Sometimes have to kind of pretend I understood what somebody said because i don't want to go HUH? WHAT? But seeing AC/DC from 10 feet away is kind of worth it.

Bowser 03-30-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9541625)
I think so. Cannot hear real high frequencies at all. Sometimes have to kind of pretend I understood what somebody said because i don't want to go HUH? WHAT? But seeing AC/DC from 10 feet away is kind of worth it.

Haha, yeah, I'm in the same boat. But sometimes it backfires - I'll have a grin on my face nodding approval to something someone says while saying "Yeah, yeah", but then I'll get a look of "do you have ANY clue what I just said?"

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 03:08 PM

Wow, sorry guys. Be sure to wear earplugs at any loud venue to protect what hearing you have left.

Brock 03-30-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9541631)
Haha, yeah, I'm in the same boat. But sometimes it backfires - I'll have a grin on my face nodding approval to something someone says while saying "Yeah, yeah", but then I'll get a look of "do you have ANY clue what I just said?"

"Just buried Mom today"

smiles and nods

Bowser 03-30-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541633)
Wow, sorry guys. Be sure to wear earplugs at any loud venue to protect what hearing you have left.

Yeah, I do, and catch shit for it constantly, heh. It's my job that's ****ing up my hearing now, not to mention loud ass concerts plus being in the Air Force on the flight line at one time.....

Oh well.

Bowser 03-30-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9541634)
"Just buried Mom today"

smiles and nods

LMAO

Been there, ****ing sucks

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9541635)
Yeah, I do, and catch shit for it constantly, heh. It's my job that's ****ing up my hearing now, not to mention loud ass concerts plus being in the Air Force on the flight line at one time.....

Oh well.

Sorry, Dude. Sincerely.

patteeu 03-30-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541563)
I've been told (so take it FWIW) by people that I trust that the Voodoo Lounge at Harrah's is the best music venue in town, acoustically speaking.

Have any of you guys seen any show there?

I saw (the guy from) Everclear there and had a real good time. I can't speak to acoustics, but it sounded fine to me. Nice size place, too.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9541678)
I saw (the guy from) Everclear there and had a real good time. I can't speak to acoustics, but it sounded fine to me. Nice size place, too.

Oh, Art? Yeah, he's a cool dude. Or at least he was, back in the 90's. Really talented guy that's kind of been off the radar for a while.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9541678)
I saw (the guy from) Everclear there and had a real good time. I can't speak to acoustics, but it sounded fine to me. Nice size place, too.

One thing I've noticed over the years that you have more an Alt/KROQ vibe in your musical taste. Kansas City has always been more of a butt-rock town.

How have you found the music you're into living there?

patteeu 03-30-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9541689)
One thing I've noticed over the years that you have more an Alt/KROQ vibe in your musical taste. Kansas City has always been more of a butt-rock town.

How have you found the music you're into living there?

I don't care much for the music radio around here, but it's not a problem now that we have internet streams (KROQ sounds pretty good so I'll have to check out their stream) and ipods available. I listen to a lot of talk radio and podcasts anyway, so I don't listen to as much music as I used to.

As for live music, it's pretty common for bands I'm interested in to skip KC, but with the limited number of shows I go to, it's not a problem to find acts that appeal to me rolling through town. For example, I've been waiting for Brian Jonestown Massacre to come to KC since NewChief turned me on to the DiG documentary about them, but it doesn't seem like they make it here very often.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9542008)
I don't care much for the music radio around here, but it's not a problem now that we have internet streams (KROQ sounds pretty good so I'll have to check out their stream) and ipods available. I listen to a lot of talk radio and podcasts anyway, so I don't listen to as much music as I used to.

As for live music, it's pretty common for bands I'm interested in to skip KC, but with the limited number of shows I go to, it's not a problem to find acts that appeal to me rolling through town. For example, I've been waiting for Brian Jonestown Massacre to come to KC since NewChief turned me on to the DiG documentary about them, but it doesn't seem like they make it here very often.

Let me know what you think about KROQ. When all the other stations in town (and the country, really) were playing Motley Crue, Ratt, Poison, Warrant and so on, they were playing Depeche, Duran Duran, Oingo Boingo, Jane's Addiction, Offspring, Bad Religion, Social Distortion, RHCP and so on.

They were truly the first alternative station in the country and MTV, when it was a music channel, used to look to KROQ for guidance.

patteeu 03-30-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9542033)
Let me know what you think about KROQ. When all the other stations in town (and the country, really) were playing Motley Crue, Ratt, Poison, Warrant and so on, they were playing Depeche, Duran Duran, Oingo Boingo, Jane's Addiction, Offspring, Bad Religion, Social Distortion, RHCP and so on.

They were truly the first alternative station in the country and MTV, when it was a music channel, used to look to KROQ for guidance.

The weird thing is that I was probably listening to Motley Crue, Ratt, Dokken, and the british guys (Priest, Maiden, etc.) back then too. It wasn't until the very late 80s and 90s when I started getting more into stuff like Jane's Addiction, Offspring, Bad Religion, etc. I guess I'm a late adopter at times. I didn't really like the Sex Pistols until they were 10 years gone, heh.

DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9542060)
The weird thing is that I was probably listening to Motley Crue, Ratt, Dokken, and the british guys (Priest, Maiden, etc.) back then too. It wasn't until the very late 80s and 90s when I started getting more into stuff like Jane's Addiction, Offspring, Bad Religion, etc. I guess I'm a late adopter at times. I didn't really like the Sex Pistols until they were 10 years gone, heh.

What's ironic is that L.A. was known in the 80's for the Sunset Strip scene yet in LA, those bands weren't all that popular here. The only radio station in town that played that music was KNAC, and they went out of business in early 1995, even after adding "Alternative" music in 1992.

KROQ, however, lives on.

Easy 6 03-30-2013 08:02 PM

Honestly, not my favorite work from either guy.

Easy 6 03-30-2013 08:19 PM

Just something i bumped across but found interesting, Dave does an excellent interview... among other things, i had absolutely no idea the van halens were half indonesian.

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DaneMcCloud 03-30-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9542569)
Just something i bumped across but found interesting, Dave does an excellent interview... among other things, i had absolutely no idea the van halens were half indonesian.

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KTe0p_j1Qdo" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

You couldn't tell by looking at them?

They're Dutch-Indo, so not exactly Indonesian.

I'm not sure if this video is full length but there's more than an hour of this interview out there, somewhere.

BigRedChief 03-31-2013 12:03 AM

Saw Van Halen in 1978/79 in New Orleans. A guy I worked with was from Cali and was bragging on them. Talked me into going. I wanted to go to see more titties.

I will always remember the first time I heard Van Halen. I remember the car, the highway, the moment as clear as it happened yesterday.

The club held about 200 people, if that. I went in the space of 4 hours from not knowing that Van Halen existed to seeing them live in a small club. I left the club that night believing I had saw greatness. I had never seen or heard anyone play guitar like I saw on that night.

Easy 6 04-01-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9543034)
You couldn't tell by looking at them?

Not really, just thought they were somewhat squinty eyed dutch guys.


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