**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****
 

#18 AP/ #20 Coaches (10-4,1-0)

Players


Non Conference
11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0)
11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0)
11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0)
11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0)
11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0)
11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1)
11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1)
12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2)
12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3)
12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3)
12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3)
12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3)
1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4)
Conference

Haha, that was quick!

At Kansas there is always next year. :thumb:

Let's do it.

Next year should be fun!

When are the possible recruits suppose to announce where they are headed?

Can you put a "Not Returning" player section on there with only Elijah Johnson on it?

I already miss Travis and Jeff.

Yup. Jeff was a huge game changer.

:doh!:

Yeah...


Joel is raw, but is said to have a ceiling higher than Cole.

I do too, but it could be a lot better. Travis, while a great defender, was just that. It short handed us at times because of his limited offensive skill set. Jeff definitely yes, but sure it could get better there as well. More athletic and more well rounded offensively. It's not the end of the world. Shout out to Self for getting what he could out of all the seniors.

I'm going to miss Kevin young just as much. He brought so much energy to the game even if he wasn't the best player on the court.

Enough about last year's roster...let's talk about the future. ;)

Go here if you want to talk about the 2012-13 squad: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...65263&page=438

Perry is going to be a force next year.

The good news is will be talented. The bad news is we will be very, very, very young with only one scholly junior and senior (next years the one and doners and transfers are biting KU in the rear-end). Best case scenerio KU gets a 10 or 11 seed in the NCAA w/o having to play in Dayton. More likely KU plays in the first four or the NIT. KU will be next year's Texas or Kentucky.

But, oh it would have been nice to remember a national title when I see all of those court stormings that I am afraid I am going to see after several KU road games next year.

This was a great class of seniors, but one of them had to **** it up for the rest of them.

:LOL:

I'd like to see an apology from Prison Bitch & Como in regards to Ellis.

Not sure but I think Wiggins is going to UK, and I don't think we have even offered Bolden.

I believe Landon Lucas will be a RS Freshman not a sophomore next year.

It wont happen, ever nor do i think he should. But PLEASE COME BACK BEN

:facepalm:

There's no way we don't win #10 next year.

Maybe I'm just upset, but I think the conference title streak ended this year. I know the recruits coming in are going to be good, I just don't know if they'll be good enough to play D like Self wants. I hope I'm wrong.

Lineup?

I say to start the season-

PG - Tharpe
SG - Selden
SF - White
PF - Ellis
C/F - Traylor

First off the bench
Lucas
Adams
Greene

Self trusts experience. There isn't much returning, but I think before the pups like Frankamp and Embiid break the lineup, theyll have to prove it before having it just handed to them.

I just want some F'IN SHOOTERS!!!! I'm tired of cringing every time a shot goes up.

Not sure if serious. Drunk maybe?

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I think that's a little optimistic. Realistically I think relying on this much youth will make it difficult. You could throw back 2006 and say it's been done before. Those were elite guys though in Chalmers, Rush, and Wright playing as freshmen. Will these new guys be that good right away? I sure hope so and Self has certainly deserved the benefit of the doubt. But it's kind of hard to say there's no chance that it doesn't happen without REALLY knowing what we've got.

Pipe dream

I wouldn't count on Ben coming back. He needs at least another year of school, but the NBA is going to throw money at him that will save his family. He can't afford to pass that up.

Please post the 2014 recruits as well. Most of the 5 star guys have KU at the top of their list.

I would agree the 2005-2006 was young but that team had 2 seniors that played significant minutes b/f they were seniors in Moody and Hawkins, I do not think the same could be said of Wesley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2...asketball_team

A little early to worry about that class.

Cool. I'm already looking at 2015 which Rivals has posted. Same deal, KU on all the lists.

Wellston is one hell of a motivator to grab that scrilla.

I'd keep McLemore on that returning list for now. Some weird rumblings coming out of the postgame.

A lot of people in this thread doubting self's ability to coach a young team to the best of their ability.

Those of you saying we won't win 10...who will win the league next year?

The Jayhawk in me wants Ben to stay but the realist in me says he should come out.

I try not to get worked up. We just get Caliapari's left overs anyway.

After tonight yes, he's for sure a top 5 pick.

But you never know.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2013/m...medium=ljtweet

KU under Bill Self.

2nd Place, 2003
1st Place, 2004
1st Place, 2005
1st Place, 2006
1st Place, 2007
1st Place, 2008
1st Place, 2009
1st Place, 2010
1st Place, 2011
1st Place, 2012

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Either OK State or Iowa State. If Ben comes back KU may pull off #10 IF 1) some of the freshman grow up REALLY fast, 2) Andrea transforms Perry Ellis into a monster this summer.

I'm not sure, I really don't know who's coming back for other teams and what they're coming in. I don't think it's impossible, but it's a bit early to say things like, "there's no way we don't win the 10th."

Sounds good to me.

Blake Griffin came back for a second year. I think he's doing okay in the NBA last time I checked.

No shit... Every team loses players.

We go through this EVERY year.

Everyone chill the **** out...

He blew out his knee his freshman year.

Yeesh. He isn't coming back. Let it go.

This. Players always say what Ben said after a season ending loss

There are very few KU players that I don't say "Man, another year would do wonders for this kid".....McLemore isn't one of them.

Pretty young next year.

They're going to be really good in 2-3 years.

The good thing is that everyone with the possible exception of Selden is here for at least 2 years.

I have seen a couple of 2014 mock drafts a couple of months ago having Perry Ellis going after next year.

Sorry, I meant the newcomers.

And yeah, I can easily see Perry averaging 20+ a game next season.

This is impossible. I was assured by Prison Bitch that he was an "unathletic piece of shit."

TBH, Prison Bitch is a dumbass.

LolololoL

I'm ready. Next year should be fun. Let's see what these young kids are made of.

Time to win ten! Rock Chalk.

Going to have good talent but it might be a long year strictly due to the Defense we lose in Withey and Releford. Tharpe and Ellis will not ever be elite defenders. Hopefully Lucas, Embiid, and Selden will be our defensive stoppers. Were gonna miss the seniors much more than most ppl realize

Traylor is a dark horse for defensive presence. Kid has a knack for blocks.

Forgot about him. Looks like hes long for his size and can go get it. He should progress nicely next yr

The loss of Withey will be felt massively. He pretty much singlehandedly made KU a national title contender over the last two years. Self's teams are known for their defense, of course, so I'm sure they'll still be fine in that area. But having a dependable defensive center that is able to cover up for everyone else's mistakes like they've had with Withey for 2 years (and Aldrich before him for 2 years) is invaluable. Everybody else is going to have to just pick up the defensive intensity even more to make up for it.

And EJ was a big part of that senior class, as much as many may want to forget or deny that now. He was instrumental in the national final run last year and his performance against ISU to win KU a 9th straight B12 title was one for the ages.

That's all well and good but it wasn't just this game. The things you mentioned were some of what were literally a few bright spots he had all year. He was an infuriating player to watch. I've seen a few players just say **** it and go rogue and not give a damn about what the coach was saying. I don't know if this was that or not because EJ celebrated with his teammates and listened to the coaches, but then just did the dumbest shit over and over again. By the end of the year I would hold my breath every time he brought the ball up court, or jacked up a shot from longer than 5'. I have never seen a player be a dominating force one year in the tourney and then come back the next year and look like a freshman point guard, for lack of a better term.

I fear for him, I really do. I don't think he'll make it past the D-League and I'm just not sure what will happen past that point. He is not right in the head.

He played out of position all year. That's why he looked so bad at times. He never did before.

There was something in his look. He looked lost , he looked doped out, I have no idea what it was. I hope he gets over it because he does have great talent
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Gonna miss Withey a lot. He was a game changer...a shot changer for sure. He made a team force shots from outside....you shoot from outside, it's less likely to go in. He was the main reason why this team led the nation in opp FG%...they couldn't go down low where there were higher % shots.


It's a god damn shame that EJ shit on this entire team. He makes that FT at the end and we're not even talking about this. Hopefully he sat on the plane alone all by himself in the back corner.

Here's to an entire thread and season without Elijah Johnson in it.

It's called being a complete and total pothead.

He made mistakes and should shoulder the blame for the loss but I'm not going to hate on Elijah. He's a Jayhawk. It's too easy nowadays to say someone sucks or call him names and forget the good stuff he did. He laid an egg this year. He's one of the main reasons we were in the title game last year. Call it a wash.

It worked wonders for JJ Redick.

Like I said in another thread, the problem with EJ has a lot to do with depth. If KU had any real depth, they would have enough confidence to hook him from the game when he's having an off night. That goes with almost any KU player. It scared the shit out of me in conference play how few minutes the bench was getting.

EJ may have been frustrating, but he was a game-changer. That's not KU basketball, to be so dependent on one guy to make or break your team. At least not the good KU squads.

I know Embiid is a little raw. But he's a legit 7 ft right?

Right now is he more of a polished defender or offensive post presence?

Get this EJ shit out of this thread

I agree. It's a shame. The guy needs another year. Gushing with talent, but he has to develop a killer instinct, and that will be easier to learn on the college level. But I don't blame him for leaving.

What I've read puts him as having lotto potential. He hasn't been playing basketball for long but apparently he's coming along. I think he started as a defensive monster but has been developing pretty rapidly on the offensive end. My guess is he doesn't see many minutes next year but if the rumors of his potential are true, he'll start as a sophomore.

Joel Embiid's length and athleticism is going to make him a devastating defensive presence in the paint from day 1, IMO. That should help offset the loss of Withey somewhat.

I'm a little scared of our perimeter D with Tharpe being our PG1.

I think I would rather have him be more gifted defensively, rather offensively at this point. I like having a big guy down low who can block and/or alter shots.

I think I would disagree about his minutes though. I bet he plays plenty. Our frontcourt depth next year isn't the greatest - Ellis, Lucas, Greene, Wesley, Embiid, Traylor.

Is there anyone else I am missing?

I always temper my enthusiasm about incoming freshman. The college game can be hard to adjust to. Some take a while (Ellis) some not so much (Marcus Smart).

What on earth are you talking about? Releford had one of the highest offensive efficiency years in Kansas history this season. That's not good? He is the perfect player: incredible defender, handles the ball, and only takes open shots/transition shots. He's a huge critical loss and we cannot overcome him or Withey or Ben being gone.


The good news is we gain something by ridding ourselves of that human head lice EJ.