Teicher tweeting the Oline alignment today....
With Albert out they lined up like this.
@adamteicher: Starting OL, L to R: stephenson, Allen, Hudson, Asamoah, Schwartz Also, Moeaki was the only guy present but not participating. Ugh! |
Gay. I don't trust Allen at all as the starting LG
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but you trust him at RT?
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So, Hudson isn't hurt? Keep seeing people post saying he won't be ready to play
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No tendons were ripped, no knee was destroyed, etc. Again, he did not require surgery. The bone healed on it's own. |
Intredasting that Schwartz is the RT
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Hudson was out there? hmmm....
Oh..and Allen sucks. |
Don't worry. Dorsey probably has Warmack tagged as BPA @ #1
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lol how useless Moeaki
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that has to be the least experienced o-line in the NFL, Alex Smith would last 5 games
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Good thing the season doesn't start tomorrow then. |
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if they trade Albert we are ****ed. But if you think they have money or there is some FA out there that can improve the line, we are going to war with at least four of those guys as opening day starters and that is a bad, bad thing in terms of risk of your 30 year old QB |
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Much ado about nothing. |
Makes the Fisher draft a little more inevitable.
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Priest Holmes had a contract dispute. Dwayne Bowe had a contract dispute. Are those guys not leaders? |
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talk about a quick trigger |
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The last part is something that I think few rarely discuss or acknowledge but it exceptionally beneficial on any team. Veterans who embrace young talent who might replace them is something that is undervalued by most, IMO. |
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Now, it's possible he has and we just don't know about it. But in this day and age, that's not very freaking likely. It's pretty obvious who a team's leaders are. |
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Same goes for Matt Cassel. What the **** did he ever do to exhibit team leadership? What if this team's leaders are Thomas Gafford and Edgar Jones? We don't ****ing know. We're not in the locker room. All we know is that we don't have some empty-headed douchebag like Tebow or Ray Lewis yelling their asses off. But that doesn't mean a player isn't a leader if he doesn't exhibit those behaviors. |
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Flowers and Berry are also pretty well known as players their teammates love to rally behind. Berry's probably the closest we have to a leader on this team. Maybe Alex Smith will emerge. |
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I couldn't point you to anybody on offense. Jon Baldwin works out at night. That's about all I know. |
Adam Teicher @adamteicher 1m
Practice is over. A couple of notes: Chiefs later shuffled OL and lined up this way left to right . . . Adam Teicher @adamteicher 37s Stephenson, Schwartz, Hudson, Asamoah, Allen. Remember that Allen played tackle in college at Illinois. Hudson looked fine, BTW |
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Don't you even try to belittle that. Quote:
There is not one shred of anything that Albert was a guy his teammates rallied around. He's just a guy that has been well-liked, does his job really well, and does his thing. Like every other Pro Bowl talent on this team, seemingly... |
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All 5 of those Chief OL have starting experience BTW |
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Judging from the lack of success the Chiefs have experienced since the 2006 season (and really, 2005), I'd venture to say that they really haven't had a vocal offensive or defensive leader, let alone, a guy that leads the team overall. Cassel wanted that role but his play on the field negated it. Berry was certainly becoming a strong player by the end of his rookie season but I think it took until December of 2012 before he was ready to lead and play well. This team hasn't had a true leader since Trent Green's heyday. That's a long damn time. |
Interesting swap of Allen and Schwartz at LG and RT....
Hm. I think SNR was theorizing they might do that exact thing. I've always believed how you end a practice is more important than how you begin it. I think Joeckel, Schwartz, Hudson, Asamoah, and Allen may be the line... |
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they need a vocal/leader that's a LBer in the worst way
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1.1) Manti Te'o
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AJ Klein is another great leadership guy. Vince Williams is awesome. He's not the Manti Te'o nice guy leader, he's the asshole big mouth that gives other teams bulletin board material. Total Bart Scott type personality. I wish he was better, though. |
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You think Stephenson showed that well last year, eh? Edit: it's obvious that if we bring in Joeckel with Albert still on the roster, he will get auto-elevated to starting RT. And I'm willing to put a bet on the line for that if that comes to pass. |
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pissing away that 2nd rounder they are going to miss out on a run of a lot of good players that could help us while they sit on their thumbs and twist until the 3rd round |
You don't need a 2nd rounder for AJ Klein, most likely. He's probably a 3rd to 5th rounder.
Just FYI. Vince Williams you can have in the 6th or 7th. He might even go UDFA. |
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And I think he would be in the conversation as the first tackle off the board in this draft class had he stayed for his senior season. He was markedly better than Lane Johnson his junior year. He's got excellent feet, is very athletic for a guy of his size and keeps his guy in front of him. (Go look at his combine numbers. His burst numbers are ridiculous for an offensive lineman.) He was thrown into the games last season because of injury after getting zero reps with the first team and while he got beat at times, he also showed good mechanics and footwork and beat his guy as well. I'd be shocked if the offensive line didn't look like this come the first regular season game: LT: Albert RG: Schwartz C: Hudson RG: Asamoah RT: Stephenson |
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By that logic, you can pencil in Geoff Schwartz as our next RT. |
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Needless to say, I hope you do not have a heart condition... I agree on Stephenson, except for the hilarious assertion that he'd be a Top 10 pick in this draft. He did not play too well last year but I don't hold that against him, blocking for Brady Quinn and Brian Daboll's hobbled offense in his rookie year is not condemning. I thought he looked like a starting caliber RT to me was on the horizon, and a good LT patch if need be. Good value for a 3rd rounder. I've made this claim before, but we really were a Top 5 drafting team during *****'s tenure. Folks hate to hear that but there it is. Beating out Allen and Schwartz at RT seems reasonable for him. Beating out Joeckel or especially Fisher at RT? Crazy talk. |
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Stephenson has prototype size, very good feet and hands and had substantially better combine numbers than Joeckel or Fisher. Yeah, I'm pretty darn sure he'd be in the conversation had he stayed for his senior year. |
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I'm sorry, but it doesn't translate. Either he's doing less with more physical ability or Joeckel/Fisher are doing more with less, because they are outstanding technicians whereas Stephenson still needs work on his kickslide. Fisher also plays with an aggressive power that is not a part of Stephenson's game.
I think it's pretty clear Stephenson was drafted to be used as leverage in a future Branden Albert standoff with Scott Pioli. He's a finesse-type left tackle. I think he's talented enough to play right tackle, however. But 32 teams out of 32 teams would agree with me that, all things being equal, Joeckel/Fisher > Stephenson. At RT or LT. |
Derrick Johnson will be on NFL Total Access in about a half an hour to talk about state of the franchise.
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Donald Stephenson was drafted because Scooter didnt want to pick Russel Wilson. Because Scooter is a fraud.
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I haven't seen one, so I can't make much comment on Fisher other than his combine and Senior Bowl stuff. Quote:
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Albert and a third for Dolphins first?
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Geno at one!!!!!!
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As much as i dont want an OT number 1, looking at that line makes me think it wouldn't be so bad
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LT-Fisher
LG-Schwartz C-Hudson RG-Asamoah- Rt-Stephenson |
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how is alex smith going to see the left side of the field with a 6'6 300 lb at LG?
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actually nevermind it's not like Alex Smith checks off safeties anyway so i guess he doesnt need to.
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I still think what our line needs is experience and good coaching. They had neither last year. There is lots if talent on that line.
I don't think it's a concidence that our line went to crap when we A. promoted o-line coach past his competence level andof B. Lost veterans (or ran them out if town). Look at SF's vaunted line. Who is coaching them? I am not convinced adding more young talent improves our line. One of the reasons I think we need to go long term with Albert. |
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