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Rain Man 04-22-2013 02:15 PM

Your archaeological news of the day - giant underwater structure discovered.
 
I'm not saying it's aliens, but...

Note: I also changed their spelling of archaeologist since it bugged me.

http://us.cnn.com/2013/04/19/world/m...iref=obnetwork

Mysterious structure found at bottom of ancient lake
By Daisy Carrington, for CNN
updated 3:51 AM EDT, Fri April 19, 2013

(CNN) -- A mysterious, circular structure, with a diameter greater than the length of a Boeing 747 jet, has been discovered submerged about 30 feet (9 meters) underneath the Sea of Galilee in Israel.

Scientists first made the discovery by accident in 2003 using sonar to survey the bottom of the lake but published their findings only recently.

"We just bumped into it," recalls Shmuel Marco, a geophysicist from Tel Aviv University who worked on the project. "Usually the bottom of the lake is quite smooth. We were surprised to find a large mound. Initially we didn't realize the importance of this but we consulted with a couple of geologists, and they said it looked like an unusually large Bronze Age statue."

The structure is comprised of basalt rocks, arranged in the shape of a cone. It measures 230 feet (70 meters) at the base of the structure, is 32 feet (10 meters) tall, and weighs an estimated 60,000 tons. It is twice the size of the ancient stone circle at Stonehenge in England.

Its size and location, say Marco, who also took video of the structure during a scuba dive to examine it, indicated it could have been constructed underwater as a type of fish nursery. However archaeologists think it more likely it was built on dry land and later submerged by the lake.

"From a geophysical perspective, it is also important to the history of the lake, because it means the water level was lower than it was today," says Marco.

According to Yitzhak Paz, the archaeologist who led the study, the fact that the structure is underwater has made it a particularly difficult study.

"If the site was inland, it would be much easier to investigate. By now we would have excavated, but because it's submerged we haven't yet been able to. It is a much harder process, both physically and financially. It is very expensive to raise support for such an enterprise."

The exact age of the structure has been difficult to pinpoint, but calculations based on the six to ten feet (two to three meters) of sand that have accumulated over the bottom of the base -- sand accumulates an average of one to four millimeters per year -- as well as comparisons to other structures in the region, put the estimate anywhere between 2,000 and 12,000 years old.

Dani Nadel, an archaeologist from the University of Haifa, who partnered on the site, and who has lead several prehistoric excavations in the region, notes it shares similarities with communal burial sites, though he's quick to discourage anyone from drawing a definitive conclusion.

"This is such a huge structure that it truly is something unusual. It could have been a big ceremonial structure, or a ramp. There could have once been statues on top of people in certain rituals. [Rain man note: wait, what?] I mean, I'm really going wild here. The truth is we don't know how it was constructed, what its exact age is, how it was used, or how long ago it was used. We have several speculations, but we don't know much except that it's there and it's huge."

Despite the limitations of examining underwater ruins, Nadel says that once they do raise the funds to excavate, there is a good likelihood that their findings will be more complete than would be possible with a land-based structure.

"Above land, many organic remains are decomposed by worms, and other creatures needing oxygen. Underwater, you don't have oxygen, so the process of decomposition is on a much smaller scale," he says.

Nadel points to Ohalo, a site he excavated near the Sea of Galilee that had been submerged for 20,000 years before a drop in water level made it easy to excavate. Ohalo is significant because it was one of the best preserved sites in the world.

"In most sites, you're lucky to find five or ten seeds. At Ohalo, we found 15,000. We learned a lot about the diet (of the inhabitants), what fish they were eating, what animals they were hunting. When a site is underwater it gives us the opportunity to see history in much more detail."

What archaeologists are certain of is that the monument was likely of great importance to the people who built it. Marco notes that the nearest basalt outcrop was a few hundred meters from the site, and that the stones, which were three to six feet (one to two meters) in width, would have weighed over 200 pounds (90 kilograms) at times.

"We see a society that was capable of organizing the construction of such a large structure. It's unique to transport these stones and unique to arrange them. You need to plan and to mobilize people, because they're too heavy to be carried by a single person."

Nadel points out that given the harsh environment such a structure was a particularly impressive accomplishment.

"You have to imagine," says Nadel, "these people were building something that was more durable than their brush huts."

keg in kc 04-22-2013 02:18 PM

There's cool stuff under water all over the globe.

Sorter 04-22-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9614511)
"From a geophysical perspective, it is also important to the history of the lake, because it means the water level was lower than it was today," says Marco.

You don't say...

blaise 04-22-2013 02:20 PM

I bet it was a horse buggy dealership.

NewChief 04-22-2013 02:23 PM

The Lair of Cthulhu. Leave it be.

Sorter 04-22-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 9614541)
The Lair of Cthulhu. Leave it be.

This.

Rain Man 04-22-2013 02:24 PM

I bet it was someone very unpopular who was stoned to death, and the crowd went into a frenzy.

blaise 04-22-2013 02:32 PM

"Say, Bill, you think we ought to maybe start a little further from shore?"

Dave Lane 04-22-2013 02:35 PM

Maybe someone really tall. Like Shaq's great great great great .... grandpappy.

siberian khatru 04-22-2013 02:36 PM

http://i31.tinypic.com/13zn0pl.jpg

Hammock Parties 04-22-2013 02:44 PM

ATLANTIS

- nerds

QuikSsurfer 04-22-2013 02:44 PM

It would probably be in our best interest to leave this one alone....

http://images.wikia.com/creepypasta/...on-d31fcvd.jpg

DJ's left nut 04-22-2013 02:45 PM

It's the Ark!!!!

KCUnited 04-22-2013 02:46 PM

Red October

KChiefer 04-22-2013 02:46 PM

Anyone else first read the title as "Giant Underwear Structure?"

ChiefaRoo 04-22-2013 02:50 PM

Man I hated that movie Prometheus.

tooge 04-22-2013 03:14 PM

I think this is the place once referred to as bum ****ed Egypt.

stonedstooge 04-22-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9614599)
ATLANTIS

- nerds

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/e2EnVvnUny0?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Donger 04-22-2013 03:43 PM

I hope Dustin doesn't go in the sphere this time.

ChiefRocka 04-22-2013 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 9614617)
Man I hated that movie Prometheus.

You serious Clarke?

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-22-2013 03:52 PM

Under water stuff like this is cool. But the coolest thing underwater is..........



Come on , think obout it...........






Thats right










Osama Bin Laden

BigRedChief 04-22-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9614518)
There's cool stuff under water all over the globe.

yeah, we have just began to discover sites.

mr. tegu 04-22-2013 03:57 PM

I can't believe I am first with this.

http://sheamacleod.files.wordpress.c...was-aliens.jpg

Sorter 04-22-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9614745)
I can't believe I am first with this.

http://sheamacleod.files.wordpress.c...was-aliens.jpg

ROFL, failure to read OPs first sentence.

QuikSsurfer 04-22-2013 04:25 PM

Just making sure that we've gotten a Atlantis, Cthulhu, and Sphere reference.

mr. tegu 04-22-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9614798)
ROFL, failure to read OPs first sentence.

I don't believe unless Giorgio says it.

EagleRob 04-22-2013 04:32 PM

Probably something lost in the Flood

Rain Man 04-22-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 9614828)
Just making sure that we've gotten a Atlantis, Cthulhu, and Sphere reference.

I believe that an Abyss reference is still available if you're interested.

QuikSsurfer 04-22-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9614850)
I believe that an Abyss reference is still available if you're interested.

Nah.. I've done my part.

Icon 04-22-2013 05:13 PM

Global warming?

No it can't be. Global warming is the result of burning fossil fuels which only started a hundred years ago.

Sarc/off

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-22-2013 05:13 PM

Could be a pineapple.

Stanley Nickels 04-22-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9614543)
I bet it was someone very unpopular who was stoned to death, and the crowd went into a frenzy.

And then they put a statue on top of him? That would make sense, given the quote in the article.

Rain Man 04-22-2013 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 9614957)
And then they put a statue on top of him? That would make sense, given the quote in the article.

I cannot even postulate a theory on what that article's sentence was supposed to mean.

BlackHelicopters 04-22-2013 05:31 PM

To the alien watchtower.

kcfanXIII 04-22-2013 05:51 PM

Any cliche military guy demanding the president nuke the sight references yet?

Beeker 04-22-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 9615059)
Any cliche military guy demanding the president nuke the sight references yet?

President Obama and the National Security Council recommended using nuclear weapons to secure the site at their morning briefing session today .....

listopencil 04-22-2013 06:48 PM

"Above land, many organic remains are decomposed by worms, and other creatures needing oxygen. Underwater, you don't have oxygen, so the process of decomposition is on a much smaller scale," he says.

Why aren't they making a bigger deal of discovering water that has no oxygen?

Strongside 04-22-2013 06:53 PM

There is an infinite amount of weird shit underwater on this planet that we have no clue exists. Ever seen the Abyss?

Dylan 04-22-2013 06:56 PM

So, CNN reproduced the article without giving credit to the original source - WOW - It is copyrighted content.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...270.12005/full


Green Prophet - Environment news from the Middle East -

Quote:

According to a report in the latest issue of the International Journal of Nautical Archaeology, the stones don’t conform to a specific pattern of placement, nor do they show signs of cutting or chiseling. Israeli researchers are trying to determine what the estimated 60,000 ton pile of rocks was used for, and who built it.
http://www.greenprophet.com/2013/04/...rce=feedburner


The official twitter account of Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

Israel ישראל ‏@Israel 20 Apr
#Israel's Sea of Galilee Reveals #Mysterious Underwater Ancient Mound http://dld.bz/cyEND via @GreenProphet

Strongside 04-22-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 9615277)
So, CNN reproduced the article without giving credit to the original source - WOW - It is copyrighted content.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...270.12005/full


Green Prophet - Environment news from the Middle East -



http://www.greenprophet.com/2013/04/...rce=feedburner


The official twitter account of Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

Israel ישראל ‏@Israel 20 Apr
#Israel's Sea of Galilee Reveals #Mysterious Underwater Ancient Mound http://dld.bz/cyEND via @GreenProphet

Looks like a biblical era landfill to me...

tmh 04-22-2013 07:00 PM

Its all that remains of the tower of Babel.

Dylan 04-22-2013 07:02 PM

Strongside:

I think I will turn CNN in. :D

Dylan 04-22-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmh (Post 9615296)
Its all that remains of the tower of Babel.

I don't think so - I could be wrong - LOL

Quote:

Babylonia was situated in the area known as Mesopotamia (Greek for "between the rivers"). Mesopotamia was in the Near East in roughly the same geographical position as modern Iraq. Two great rivers flowed through this land: the Tigris and the Euphrates. Along these two rivers were many great trading cities such as Ur and Babylon on the Euphrates.
http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/near_east9.gif

Today:
Quote:

Israel, the main water sources are the Sea of Galilee...
Gotta go...

ChiefaRoo 04-22-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 9614723)
You serious Clarke?

Nervous biologist who suddenly wants to pet an alien snake after seeing decapitated aliens and getting trapped with them overnight? Dont even get me started on the evil android who put alien jizz in that guys drink...crazy

Cornstock 04-22-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 9615485)
Nervous biologist who suddenly wants to pet an alien snake after seeing decapitated aliens and getting trapped with them overnight? Dont even get me started on the evil android who put alien jizz in that guys drink...crazy

That movie made me want to go all Obama and destroy the space program. We don't need to be messin with sh.. like that.



But then I went back to the science thread and was shown the light.

Hammock Parties 04-22-2013 08:33 PM

I bet it's Arrowhead Stadium from the future.


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