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teedubya 04-25-2013 06:22 PM

OT drafted 1st overall meltdown rep thread!!
 
I didn't see an official meltdown thread... so, lets rep whoever melts down the most in this thread.

Tell us why you ****ing hate this pick and how we are dooooomed!!

Dammit Carl!! :cuss:

WhitiE 04-25-2013 06:23 PM

Yay!?!?!?!

notorious 04-25-2013 06:24 PM

Meh.

MTG#10 04-25-2013 06:25 PM

In, gotta get something positive out of this.

digger 04-25-2013 06:25 PM

.

BlackHelicopters 04-25-2013 06:26 PM

In. Hope to see a QB worth a shit before I die of a massive MI.

PA Chiefs 04-25-2013 06:27 PM

That's it.... Maybe we can trade BA and one of our 3rds for someone's 1st

Old Dog 04-25-2013 06:27 PM

sure....at least we'll get rep out of it this way

Halfcan 04-25-2013 06:27 PM

Our running game will dominate. Great pick!!

Dayze 04-25-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9627135)
In, gotta get something positive out of this.

He's better than Joekel

Chiefspants 04-25-2013 06:27 PM

IT WASN'T LUKE

cockeyes 04-25-2013 06:27 PM

I like it. Our tackle for the next decade.

Enjoy languishing in Miami, Albert

Halfcan 04-25-2013 06:28 PM

Jags get jokel- lol

Fritz88 04-25-2013 06:29 PM

We'll have a heck of a line next year.
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Joe Seahawk 04-25-2013 06:30 PM

Weird, 2 tackles go first in the draft.. Of all the years to have the 1.1...

scho63 04-25-2013 06:30 PM

That was the most anticlimactic 1st round pick I've seen in the NFL draft in my life-only the Chiefs can pull that off

threebag 04-25-2013 06:32 PM

No Bitch here

KCDC 04-25-2013 06:32 PM

I'm too disappointed to be angry.

PRIEST 04-25-2013 06:35 PM

No Albert trade & these dumb asses draft another ol wtf

Halfcan 04-25-2013 06:36 PM

We needed a Big mean Hos for the line and we got him. I hope his nasty attitude spreads to the whole team. We played like a bunch of scared pussies last year. Time to Man up and kick some ass- and it sounds like Fish is the huge man for the job.

TribalElder 04-25-2013 06:36 PM

Where the what the aww man damn

TribalElder 04-25-2013 06:37 PM

Let's make up a need then draft that position

journeyscarab 04-25-2013 06:37 PM

At least its not Leon Sandcastle.

PRIEST 04-25-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9627444)
Let's make up a need then draft that position


Unfreaking believable :drool:

Bewbies 04-25-2013 06:41 PM

30 years bitches!!

mnchiefsguy 04-25-2013 06:44 PM

Not sure I have a meltdown in me....but I am disappointed....Fisher better be a ****ing stud.

Rasputin 04-25-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk (Post 9627238)
Weird, 2 tackles go first in the draft.. Of all the years to have the 1.1...

Both teams will be searching/drafting quarterback in the top 5 again in the next couple of seasons.

The Chiefs will still draft DT or LT but hey they will be in position to draft a quarterback.


:cuss: **** ya mother ****ing Chiefs piss me off you ****ing jerks get on my nerves.

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Sully 04-25-2013 06:49 PM

At some point the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl.
They will win the AFC in a terrible year, and their NFC opponent will then be decimated in a plane crash on the way to the host city, giving the Chiefs the win by default without being played in a game they were 11.5 point underdogs in.

That's what being a Chiefs fan feels like. At our best moment, we will be underwhelming and overshadowed.

Iowanian 04-25-2013 06:49 PM

I just don't care that much. There isn't anywhere for this team to go but up and there isn't a player I was really excited about.

Obviously there is something about Albert they don't like. I'm just going to put my trust in this new staff this year and will refrain on getting upset until at least part way through the season.

Maybe I'm just beaten so far down as a fan I'm becoming ambivalent.

ChiefaRoo 04-25-2013 06:51 PM

Do it , do it!!

Buzz 04-25-2013 06:55 PM

I like pie

teedubya 04-25-2013 07:01 PM

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIvTSOfCQAArm7A.jpg

AussieChiefsFan 04-25-2013 07:02 PM

In. Rep me!!

Molitoth 04-25-2013 07:05 PM

**** this team, but I knew this was coming when Alex smith was brought in.

mlyonsd 04-25-2013 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9627632)
I just don't care that much. There isn't anywhere for this team to go but up and there isn't a player I was really excited about.

Obviously there is something about Albert they don't like. I'm just going to put my trust in this new staff this year and will refrain on getting upset until at least part way through the season.

Maybe I'm just beaten so far down as a fan I'm becoming ambivalent.

Pretty much sums it up for me.

Red Dawg 04-25-2013 07:08 PM

Its a good pick.

BigChiefFan 04-25-2013 07:29 PM

20 ****ing years without a playoff win and this our cornerstone? This franchise sucks.

cabletech94 04-25-2013 07:30 PM

kicking ass, and taking names!!!

Cmd'r&Chief 04-25-2013 07:36 PM

I'm pissed we didn't draft Sandcastle

hometeam 04-25-2013 07:37 PM

****.

AdumbGuy 04-25-2013 07:39 PM

Currently reading "So your team drafted a RT with the first overall pick..."

Pro Tip: Don't worry, maybe pancake blocks will be worth 6 points next year!

oldandslow 04-25-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 9627835)
Its a good pick.

Yes, it is.

KCFaninSEA 04-25-2013 07:44 PM

I'll players though.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 9627632)
I just don't care that much. There isn't anywhere for this team to go but up and there isn't a player I was really excited about.

Obviously there is something about Albert they don't like. I'm just going to put my trust in this new staff this year and will refrain on getting upset until at least part way through the season.

Maybe I'm just beaten so far down as a fan I'm becoming ambivalent.

I agree completely. This pick was based on who could be useful that is the most likely to succeed. As many have stated and it is coming true, the skill position players being drafted this year are not projected to be as good as the hogs at their position. You cannot take "a flyer" on maybe. This team could not afford to miss on this pick and had to grab the most likely to succeed. Still hoping for some impact players at some point though

cosmo20002 04-25-2013 07:55 PM

:cuss:

Iowanian 04-25-2013 08:02 PM

If the Chiefs were wrong....the rest of the top 10 would seem to look a lot different.

It kind of appears that the rest of the top 10 teams felt the same way about the skill players this year.

hometeam 04-25-2013 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9628240)
I'll players though.

I agree completely. This pick was based on who could be useful that is the most likely to succeed. As many have stated and it is coming true, the skill position players being drafted this year are not projected to be as good as the hogs at their position. You cannot take "a flyer" on maybe. This team could not afford to miss on this pick and had to grab the most likely to succeed. Still hoping for some impact players at some point though

This is the same bullshit attitude that the Chiefs FO has had for the past 20 years.

You know the ones where we haven't done shit.

Iowanian 04-25-2013 08:09 PM

Get a tat on your back for the bad side of the chiefs fan coin.

Chiefs_Rush 04-25-2013 08:24 PM

bye albert

KCFaninSEA 04-25-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9628458)
This is the same bullshit attitude that the Chiefs FO has had for the past 20 years.

You know the ones where we haven't done shit.

You certainly have the right to be upset. You also have the right to go support another team. You don't seem to support this team which is not the same organization as it was 20 years ago. The only thing the same is the uniforms, some fans and the stadium. I'm not one to be miserable over this draft pick. I hated the Jackson pick though but still supported the team and have a positive attitude.

KCFaninSEA 04-25-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs_Rush (Post 9628775)
bye albert

To where? I doubt Miami at this point.

In58men 04-25-2013 08:33 PM

Andy Reid and John Dorsey are ****ing morons.


If you truly think Alex Smith will hold up a Lombardi trophy you're so ****ing clueless it's pathetic.

hometeam 04-25-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9628806)
You certainly have the right to be upset. You also have the right to go support another team. You don't seem to support this team which is not the same organization as it was 20 years ago. The only thing the same is the uniforms, some fans and the stadium. I'm not one to be miserable over this draft pick. I hated the Jackson pick though but still supported the team and have a positive attitude.

LOL.. "I" dont support this team?

I always support my team. I also point out stupid shit.

Exoter175 04-25-2013 08:42 PM

4 guards, 4 tackles in the top 20, I love the Fisher pick for us, and unless Minnesota uses a pick on a QB with one of their two coming up, Geno is going to be a 2nd rounder.

KCwolf 04-25-2013 08:49 PM

Haters gonna hate

KCFaninSEA 04-25-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9629020)
LOL.. "I" dont support this team?

I always support my team. I also point out stupid shit.

Let's look at it this way. 3 out of the first 4 picks are tackles. Almost every expert saw tackles as the BPA. Your expert opinion is they should have gone a different direction but all you say is they are stupid. If you say they should have gone GS remember that as of now almost every team has passed on him and some twice. Your expert opinion matters only to you. GS might be good but others players are obviously projected better. Live with it and be positive.

hometeam 04-25-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9629186)
Let's look at it this way. 3 out of the first 4 picks are tackles. Almost every expert saw tackles as the BPA. Your expert opinion is they should have gone a different direction but all you say is they are stupid. If you say they should have gone GS remember that as of now almost every team has passed on him and some twice. Your expert opinion matters only to you. GS might be good but others players are obviously projected better. Live with it and be positive.


This shit is so tired.

KCFaninSEA 04-25-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9629192)
This shit is so tired.

Right back at ya

Dave Lane 04-25-2013 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9627407)
We needed a Big mean Hos for the line and we got him. I hope his nasty attitude spreads to the whole team. We played like a bunch of scared pussies last year. Time to Man up and kick some ass- and it sounds like Fish is the huge man for the job.

Die in a Fire

AussieChiefsFan 04-26-2013 07:39 AM

Atleast he's better than joekel

ChiefaRoo 04-26-2013 07:43 AM

meh

Halfcan 04-26-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9629472)
Die in a Fire

:eek: really dave- wow.

Who else were they going to pick? Maybe Dion Jordon? I like the pick- championships start with a good O line- ours sucked ass last year. I hope we keep Albert- we should be able to just Maul teams with our ground game.

Rasputin 04-26-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9630831)
:eek: really dave- wow.

Who else were they going to pick? Maybe Dion Jordon? I like the pick- championships start with a good O line- ours sucked ass last year. I hope we keep Albert- we should be able to just Maul teams with our ground game.

How many LT have been drafted 1.1 to go on and win a Super Bowl with that team that drafted them?

Halfcan 04-26-2013 09:50 AM

Okay so Who would have been a better pick?? Fisher was the Stud of the draft and will continue to get better. He will bring a nasty attitude that this team needs. Maybe you guys havn't seen how the Faders D line has destroyed us the last 6 games. If you can't beat your arch rivals at home- in a home opener- you are not going to have a chance at Anything.

HemiEd 04-26-2013 09:58 AM

Why is what Reid and Dorsey have done so far any better or different than what Pioli did?

1)Trade top of the second round pick (34th overall) for a rejected serviceable back up QB from another team. Check!

2) Use high first round pick (1st or 3rd overall) on a big "safe pick" lineman. Check.

Do we really think that Smith is any better than Cassel? The numbers are about the same last time I checked. Both GMs traded the 34th overall for them.

Is replacing a young experienced Top 5 OT with your 1.1 pick any better of a move than picking Tyson Jackson #3 overall?

Sorry, I just don't see that there has been ANY change, just the names.

Halfcan 04-26-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9630943)
Why is what Reid and Dorsey have done so far any better or different than what ***** did?

1)Trade top of the second round pick (34th overall) for a rejected serviceable back up QB from another team. Check!

2) Use high first round pick (1st or 3rd overall) on a big "safe pick" lineman. Check.

Do we really think that Smith is any better than Cassel? The numbers are about the same last time I checked. Both GMs traded the 34th overall for them.

Is replacing a young experienced Top 5 OT with your 1.1 pick any better of a move than picking Tyson Jackson #3 overall?

Sorry, I just don't see that there has been ANY change, just the names.

1. Cassel was a backup- Alex was a #1 pick and a Starter and having a great year until he got hurt- Big difference.

2. Fisher was the Best player available in the entire draft according to many.

3. T Jack was a projected 12- 24 pick that was reached for because pioli heard rumors New england wanted him- so he tried to steal him from them and got an average at best player that should Never have been picked that high to start with.

4. We have a proven coach and changed our entire coaching staff to the Best available.

We are a playoff caliber team now- Not the Joke team that had banners flying overhead. We are in for a great year!! Go Chiefs!!

DJ's left nut 04-26-2013 10:16 AM

I can't melt down over the pick. I just can't get there.

Eric Fisher is going to be a really really good player, IMO. At least we will get an actual significant upgrade on Albert, IMO. Joeckel wouldn't have been; he's a 'safe' player that will be a good starter for a decade, but not much more than that. With Fisher we did the right thing and went for the potentially dominant player.

And if you go by a "Madden ratings" approach, he probably is the best player in this draft. So from that standpoint, Dorsey isn't a liar - he went pure BPA.

Beyond that, every single team saw something in Geno Smith that scared them off him. And these teams have viewed more film than me and have put more eyes on him than I have. Their livelihoods depend on them being right here. I think it's safe to say that Geno isn't the prospect I think he is, though I still see so much I like in him that I think he'll be a good QB.

Which brings me to my true meltdown:

#34 FOR ALEX !@#$ING SMITH!?!?!?!

Folks, we could've given that pick and a 4th to move up to Baltimore's spot and select Geno. That's it. And we could've then still turned around and traded Albert for a 2nd if we wanted to. We could've had an upgrade at LT, a good young QB prospect and a 2nd round pick in our pocket.

And as I said when the Smith deal was made - I don't even hate Alex. But jesus tits, a 2nd ****ing rounder for him? #34 overall? A third is as high as we should've gone and I see nobody out there that would've topped us on that, especially given that we had the #1 overall pick in the round.

And at that point everybody's happy. And I guess if Geno slips to the 3rd or even to Miami's pick and we deal Albert to get him, it could still happen. But I have absolutely no confidence in that happening at all - Geno's a Jaguar.

So no. This isn't a true meltdown. Eric Fisher, unlike Tyson Jackson, is going to be a good and very possibly great player in this league. But shit...why why why why why did we have to give the #34 overall pick for Average Smith?

Beef Supreme 04-26-2013 10:22 AM

I have come to terms with the nature of this draft class, and now just hope that Fischer lives up to the pick. A big mean offensive line and a serviceable QB seemed to put a pretty good offense on the field when we had Trent Green and Vermeil. I don't think A. Smith is as good as Trent Green, but maybe Andy Reid can make him look good. He made Kevin Kolb look good for a while.

The one thing that haunts the back of my thoughts is that the only thing ***** would have done differently this offseason is draft Joekel instead of Fischer.

GoChargers 04-26-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9630831)
I like the pick- championships start with a good O line-

Not in today's league. The 2012 Ravens' O-line was ranked 17th by PFF. The 2011 Giants' O-line was ranked 31st. The 2010 Packers' O-line was ranked 12th.

Seems to me championships start with an elite (or close to it) franchise quarterback, which all three teams had.

Fat Elvis 04-26-2013 10:41 AM

We should give out rep for the lack of a meltdown....

Of course, there were a bunch of people who said they would kill themselves if the Chiefs selected an offensive lineman with the first pick instead of a QB or trading down. If they followed through with those threats, then that might account for a lack of an overall meltdown....


Either way, props to Austin Chief for keeping the board running smoothly through all this.

Fat Elvis 04-26-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9631104)
Not in today's league. The 2012 Ravens' O-line was ranked 17th by PFF. The 2011 Giants' O-line was ranked 31st. The 2010 Packers' O-line was ranked 12th.

Seems to me championships start with an elite (or close to it) franchise quarterback, which all three teams had.

All four offensive tackles in the Super Bowl this past year were first round draft choices :shrug:

Halfcan 04-26-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9631104)
Not in today's league. The 2012 Ravens' O-line was ranked 17th by PFF. The 2011 Giants' O-line was ranked 31st. The 2010 Packers' O-line was ranked 12th.

Seems to me championships start with an elite (or close to it) franchise quarterback, which all three teams had.

And what did those O lines do in the Playoffs and Superbowl?

Did a defensive player even touch Flacco's jersey last year? That was some of the Best O line play ever- they dominated some Great teams on the road- That is why they won it all. Same with Giants- Eli had all kinds of time- same with the packers they won it without a running game.

Alex needs the time and with a dominate running game he will pick defenses apart. Lots of folks on here will be eating Crow this year bitching about Alex- he is going to look like a steal for what we paid.

Halfcan 04-26-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9631144)
All four offensive tackles in the Super Bowl this past year were first round draft choices :shrug:

:thumb: yep you are exactly right.

Rasputin 04-26-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9630981)
1. Cassel was a backup- Alex was a #1 pick and a Starter and having a great year until he got hurt- Big difference.

2. Fisher was the Best player available in the entire draft according to many.

3. T Jack was a projected 12- 24 pick that was reached for because ***** heard rumors New england wanted him- so he tried to steal him from them and got an average at best player that should Never have been picked that high to start with.

4. We have a proven coach and changed our entire coaching staff to the Best available.

We are a playoff caliber team now- Not the Joke team that had banners flying overhead. We are in for a great year!! Go Chiefs!!


Is this just homer talk?

We all want this team to be good, but I just don't see how getting Alex Smith is going make us any better to become a Super Bowl contending team and that is the goal isn't it?

This team with Alex Smith is nothing to get excited about.

I want to be excited this hurts me to know this is not going to work out so well.

Dave Lane 04-26-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9630835)
How many LT have been drafted 1.1 to go on and win a Super Bowl with that team that drafted them?

Completely true.

Chest Rockwell 04-26-2013 12:21 PM

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KCFaninSEA 04-26-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9631016)
I can't melt down over the pick. I just can't get there.

Eric Fisher is going to be a really really good player, IMO. At least we will get an actual significant upgrade on Albert, IMO. Joeckel wouldn't have been; he's a 'safe' player that will be a good starter for a decade, but not much more than that. With Fisher we did the right thing and went for the potentially dominant player.

And if you go by a "Madden ratings" approach, he probably is the best player in this draft. So from that standpoint, Dorsey isn't a liar - he went pure BPA.

Beyond that, every single team saw something in Geno Smith that scared them off him. And these teams have viewed more film than me and have put more eyes on him than I have. Their livelihoods depend on them being right here. I think it's safe to say that Geno isn't the prospect I think he is, though I still see so much I like in him that I think he'll be a good QB.

Which brings me to my true meltdown:

#34 FOR ALEX !@#$ING SMITH!?!?!?!

Folks, we could've given that pick and a 4th to move up to Baltimore's spot and select Geno. That's it. And we could've then still turned around and traded Albert for a 2nd if we wanted to. We could've had an upgrade at LT, a good young QB prospect and a 2nd round pick in our pocket.

And as I said when the Smith deal was made - I don't even hate Alex. But jesus tits, a 2nd ****ing rounder for him? #34 overall? A third is as high as we should've gone and I see nobody out there that would've topped us on that, especially given that we had the #1 overall pick in the round.

And at that point everybody's happy. And I guess if Geno slips to the 3rd or even to Miami's pick and we deal Albert to get him, it could still happen. But I have absolutely no confidence in that happening at all - Geno's a Jaguar.

So no. This isn't a true meltdown. Eric Fisher, unlike Tyson Jackson, is going to be a good and very possibly great player in this league. But shit...why why why why why did we have to give the #34 overall pick for Average Smith?

Hindsight is 20/20. I don't think they wanted to go into the draft without somebody that could be the #1 QB. Most other teams did the same thing. I also don't think they thought any QB in this draft would be as good as AS. Most other teams seem to be right there with them on that as well. If those points are accurate I'm not sure what could have been done 3 months ago. If you wait you could get screwed even worse by being forced to over extend for something that is worse than you could have had
That is a recipe for the unenjoyment line. Btw I do think the #34 was high for AS but I didn't have the opportunity to sit in negotiations so it is unknown how that played out except to think the FO felt they had to have him.

Fat Elvis 04-26-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9631198)
And what did those O lines do in the Playoffs and Superbowl?

Did a defensive player even touch Flacco's jersey last year? That was some of the Best O line play ever- they dominated some Great teams on the road- That is why they won it all. Same with Giants- Eli had all kinds of time- same with the packers they won it without a running game.

Alex needs the time and with a dominate running game he will pick defenses apart. Lots of folks on here will be eating Crow this year bitching about Alex- he is going to look like a steal for what we paid.

I actually agree with this. I don't think he will be a game manager in Reid's system. I think he will be methodical. You aren't going to get the sexy read-option, you aren't going to get a lot of long balls thrown. What you will get, however, is a surgical dismantling of an opposing defense. Smith is accurate and he doesn't turn the ball over--and that will be important when you are asking him to throw the ball 40+ times a game.

This will make our defense a lot better as well. They will have time to rest. I fully expect to see a completely different team on the field next year. I expect us to win.

Rausch 04-26-2013 02:09 PM

If we can get Fisher at 1.1 and one of our top 3 prospects in the 2nd or 3rd that's a bigger win than I ever expected...

Halfcan 04-26-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9631222)
Is this just homer talk?

We all want this team to be good, but I just don't see how getting Alex Smith is going make us any better to become a Super Bowl contending team and that is the goal isn't it?

This team with Alex Smith is nothing to get excited about.

I want to be excited this hurts me to know this is not going to work out so well.

Considering the bumbling fools we have had under center- Alex looks to be the next Montana-LOL

If he just cuts the QB turnovers in half over last year- that would be a dramatic improvement.

hometeam 04-26-2013 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9632142)
Considering the bumbling fools we have had under center- Alex looks to be the next Montana-LOL

If he just cuts the QB turnovers in half over last year- that would be a dramatic improvement.


And still not enough.


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