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Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 08:36 PM

Jason Cole expects Chiefs to trade Albert for pick in '14
 
Branden Albert - T - Chiefs
Yahoo Sports' Jason Cole expects the Chiefs to end up trading Branden Albert for a second-round pick in 2014.
Cole mentions the Lions, Chargers, and Cardinals as teams that remain left tackle-needy after the draft and might be interested in Albert. The Lions would make a lot of sense because internally they have major questions about Riley Reiff's viability at tackle and prefer him at guard. The Dolphins could also jump back into the bidding. Although the Albert-to-Miami draft-week trade fell through, the sides had agreed to parameters of a long-term contract.
Related: Lions, Dolphins, Chargers, Cardinals

-King- 04-28-2013 08:37 PM

Seriously? No... seriously? :facepalm:

Sure-Oz 04-28-2013 08:37 PM

Wouldn't be surprised that this happens. Don't see Albert staying put

mcaj22 04-28-2013 08:38 PM

told you they werent going to put up with him sitting out all training camp and showing up right before week 1

and having Fisher take all the reps at LT in training camp only to have Albert expect to play when he shows up or hog up 9 million on the bench. He's wasting cap space at this point

O.city 04-28-2013 08:39 PM

At this point, unless it's something crazy like a 1st or multiple early picks, just keep him.

Mav 04-28-2013 08:39 PM

Make the trade with detroit. They will be picking top 5 again.....

Sassy Squatch 04-28-2013 08:40 PM

Oh well. Do it soon. 9 mil is a lot of cheddar to free up.

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 08:41 PM

I hope IF we trade him, the Dolphins guy gets hurt so Ireland is an idiot and gives up next years first.

Imon Yourside 04-28-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9642496)
At this point, unless it's something crazy like a 1st or multiple early picks, just keep him.

This!

Simplicity 04-28-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9642496)
At this point, unless it's something crazy like a 1st or multiple early picks, just keep him.

So he can wiggle his fat into a roster spot just to ride the pine?

MIAdragon 04-28-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 9642506)
So he can wiggle his fat into a roster spot just to ride the pine?

I just cant see him doing that, IMO that would torpedo his chances at a fat payday in 14.

O.city 04-28-2013 08:43 PM

He's not going to ride the pine. JFC, he's gonna get near 10 million dollars. He's gonna play wherever they tell him.


We heard he was ready to report to recent workouts but was told not to as a trade was being worked out.

mcaj22 04-28-2013 08:45 PM

he wants a fat payday at LT

LG, C, RG, RT where ever else he loses A LOT of money

so yes, he will put up a fight/become a cancer if he doesnt get his way at LT. Havent you heard this guy in interviews or on twitter the last couple months? because that's what all the signs point to. He just wants his.

BigMeatballDave 04-28-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9642490)
told you they werent going to put up with him sitting out all training camp and showing up right before week 1

and having Fisher take all the reps at LT in training camp only to have Albert expect to play when he shows up or hog up 9 million on the bench. He's wasting cap space at this point

He wouldn't sit out through training camp. Huge fines for that now. He's yet to miss a mandatory work out. Also, last I heard, he was told to stay away while a trade was trying to be worked out.

gblowfish 04-28-2013 08:46 PM

And Hosmer runs into an out....
Oh sorry, wrong thread.
I'll be leaving now...

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 08:46 PM

Albert lost leverage by signing. He'll get fined now if he doesn't report.

milkman 04-28-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9642490)
told you they werent going to put up with him sitting out all training camp and showing up right before week 1

and having Fisher take all the reps at LT in training camp only to have Albert expect to play when he shows up or hog up 9 million on the bench. He's wasting cap space at this point

Branden Albert signed his franchise tender.

He is under contract for the upcoming season, and if the Chiefs don't work a trade, he will be in for all the mandatory team activities, TC and preseason.

And the rumor is that the Chiefs asked to pass on the voluntary workouts recently.

O.city 04-28-2013 08:47 PM

If this recent trade no trade drama contractual stuff hasn't changed his mind, nothing will and he's a lost cause.

BigMeatballDave 04-28-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9642538)
he wants a fat payday at LT

Duh.

In other news, water is wet.

milkman 04-28-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 9642506)
So he can wiggle his fat into a roster spot just to ride the pine?

It must be a terrible burden to be a 14 year old moron.

penbrook 04-28-2013 08:48 PM

Dorsey said after day 1 that if no Albert trade was in play with the dolphins that the trade talks would end after the conclusion of the draft.

Also Reid said it looks as if Albert will not be traded.

the Talking Can 04-28-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9642538)
he wants a fat payday at LT

LG, C, RG, RT where ever else he loses A LOT of money

so yes, he will put up a fight/become a cancer if he doesnt get his way at LT. Havent you heard this guy in interviews or on twitter the last couple months? because that's what all the signs point to. He just wants his.

every player in the nfl 'wants his'


jesus...these guys don't work at kinkos

xztop123 04-28-2013 08:49 PM

Why cant we keep him this year then do it

CoMoChief 04-28-2013 08:50 PM

It's never bad to have a kickass Oline, esp when you have the money to do it.

This year was a horrible top half of a 1st rd...if we spent #1 on a RT, then so be it. Having 2 top bookends is huge for any offense.

O.city 04-28-2013 08:50 PM

With the contracts top guards have gotten, maybe he could be convinced to go in there for a year.

Doubtful but who knows.

the Talking Can 04-28-2013 08:50 PM

and we better trade his ass, we need the pick for that absurd Smith trade

and it keeps us from the being the first team in history to draft a RT with the #1 pick in the draft...

-King- 04-28-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9642498)
Oh well. Do it soon. 9 mil is a lot of cheddar to free up.

At this point, what exactly would the benefit of freeing up that money? Who would we use it on? All the good free agents are taken for the most part. We'd just be letting that 9 mil sit for no reason.

mcaj22 04-28-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9642571)
every player in the nfl 'wants his'


jesus...these guys don't work at kinkos

every player in the NFL that "wants" his also doesnt have their team drafting a guy at the same position with the first overall pick in the first round either

so therein is the problem here.

Sassy Squatch 04-28-2013 08:52 PM

Arizona or Detroit would be ideal. They're almost certainly going to pick high again.

In58men 04-28-2013 08:53 PM

That pick would just go to SF. We won't get a 1st for him.

Sassy Squatch 04-28-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9642589)
At this point, what exactly would the benefit of freeing up that money? Who would we use it on? All the good free agents are taken for the most part. We'd just be letting that 9 mil sit for no reason.

Still a few quality free agents. Also could be some surprise cuts later down the road. Never hurts to have some freed up cap space.

penbrook 04-28-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9642582)
and we better trade his ass, we need the pick for that absurd Smith trade

and it keeps us from the being the first team in history to draft a RT with the #1 pick in the draft...

Dorsey said after day 1 that if no Albert trade was in play with the dolphins that the trade talks would end after the conclusion of the draft.

Also Reid said it looks as if Albert will not be traded.

the Talking Can 04-28-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9642596)
That pick would just go to SF. We won't get a 1st for him.

wut

Simplicity 04-28-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9642562)
It must be a terrible burden to be a 14 year old moron.

I'm kinda thirsty, go fetch me a milk, bundle of sticks.

Fritz88 04-28-2013 08:54 PM

We better rape in the trade.

ShortRoundChief 04-28-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9642589)
At this point, what exactly would the benefit of freeing up that money? Who would we use it on? All the good free agents are taken for the most part. We'd just be letting that 9 mil sit for no reason.

To potentially extend other contractss?

-King- 04-28-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9642598)
Still a few quality free agents. Also could be some surprise cuts later down the road. Never hurts to have some freed up cap space.

....and we'll have cuts of our own freeing up space. And we could also restructure Hali's contract (I have no idea why they haven't already).

O.city 04-28-2013 08:55 PM

There might be a good free agent shake loose from somewhere with a late cut, it would be nice to have money. However, if he is an upgrade at a spot, just cut someone else or something.

the Talking Can 04-28-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9642599)
Dorsey said after day 1 that if no Albert trade was in play with the dolphins that the trade talks would end after the conclusion of the draft.

Also Reid said it looks as if Albert will not be traded.

so what?

did Dorsey chisel his response in stone and deliver his response from the top of a mountain?

In58men 04-28-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9642601)
wut

We still owe SF a 2014 2nd round pick for Alex Smith.

Basically we just give him to the Fins.

-King- 04-28-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9642605)
To potentially extend other contractss?

Who needs to be extended right now?

-King- 04-28-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9642614)
We still owe SF a 2014 2nd round pick for Alex Smith.

Basically we just give him to the Fins.

:spock: Wtf are you talking about?

In58men 04-28-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9642603)
We better rape in the trade.

When have we ever raped lol.


However, we always get raped.

In58men 04-28-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9642617)
:spock: Wtf are you talking about?

We gave up 2-2nd rounders for Smith.

the Talking Can 04-28-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9642614)
We still owe SF a 2014 2nd round pick for Alex Smith.

Basically we just give him to the Fins.

you realize we have our own pick, which goes to the 49ers

the pick for albert is ours

-King- 04-28-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9642621)
We gave up 2-2nd rounders for Smith.

Yeah? We gave up our own pick.

O.city 04-28-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9642606)
....and we'll have cuts of our own freeing up space. And we could also restructure Hali's contract (I have no idea why they haven't already).

With his age, I doubt they want to have a longer pay contract. Probably better to just eat it now.

penbrook 04-28-2013 08:58 PM

To note that Jason Coles article is nothing but opinion and speculation.

In58men 04-28-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9642625)
Yeah? We gave up our own pick.

So basically we give up Albert and get back, what should have been in the beginning, a full draft. We still lost on this whole trading shit.

-King- 04-28-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9642626)
With his age, I doubt they want to have a longer pay contract. Probably better to just eat it now.

They wouldn't have to pay a longer contract. Just switch some of his base money to bonus money.

O.city 04-28-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9642639)
They wouldn't have to pay a longer contract. Just switch some of his base money to bonus money.

Just meant I doubt they want to add years on, which usually happens with a restructure, with his age being what it is.

-King- 04-28-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9642642)
Just meant I doubt they want to add years on, which usually happens with a restructure, with his age being what it is.

No it doesnt.

Fritz88 04-28-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9642618)
When have we ever raped lol.


However, we always get raped.

My hope is that these teams are pretty desperate.
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ShortRoundChief 04-28-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9642621)
We gave up 2-2nd rounders for Smith.

we gave up a 2nd and a conditional

O.city 04-28-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9642643)
No it doesnt.

So do you just reduce his salary this year? I guess I don't knwo how that works then.

xztop123 04-28-2013 09:02 PM

If we are trading him for a nex years pick it should be a 1st.... thats how value works... if we wait till after this year then a second

the Talking Can 04-28-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 9642651)
If we are trading him for a nex years pick it should be a 1st.... thats how value works... if we wait till after this year then a second

value works this way:

we'll get whatever someone is willing to give

which isn't going to be a first

penbrook 04-28-2013 09:04 PM

WERE NOT TRADING ALBERT!!

In58men 04-28-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9642663)
WERE NOT TRADING ALBERT!!

Awwwwww why not man

Anyong Bluth 04-28-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9642490)
told you they werent going to put up with him sitting out all training camp and showing up right before week 1

and having Fisher take all the reps at LT in training camp only to have Albert expect to play when he shows up or hog up 9 million on the bench. He's wasting cap space at this point

He can't sit out under the new CBA the fines are pretty steep and he has signed his offer sheet.

In58men 04-28-2013 09:05 PM

@JasonLaCanfora: With Miami not drafting a tackle high or dealing for Branden Albert from KC, keep in mind they've maintained contact with T Eric Winston

RealSNR 04-28-2013 09:06 PM

Next year draft picks are always notched up a round to equal the value of a current year draft pick.

A team should have to give us a 1st rounder in 2014 and get a 3rd back or something like that.

Otherwise **** it. Let Albert walk after the tag.

-King- 04-28-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9642648)
So do you just reduce his salary this year? I guess I don't knwo how that works then.

They usually just convert a part of his base salary into a guaranteed bonus.

For example, when Brandon Carr restructured, they converted $13,250,000 of his 14 mil base salary into a bonus giving them only a cap hit of 750,000.

Simplicity 04-28-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9642670)
@JasonLaCanfora: With Miami not drafting a tackle high or dealing for Branden Albert from KC, keep in mind they've maintained contact with T Eric Winston

They can have Winston, and than when Tannehill is pooping himself and the fans are booing him, Winston can come to the rescue!

RealSNR 04-28-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9642670)
@JasonLaCanfora: With Miami not drafting a tackle high or dealing for Branden Albert from KC, keep in mind they've maintained contact with T Eric Winston

Miami seems okay with Johnathan Martin at LT, I guess.

O.city 04-28-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9642677)
They usually just convert a part of his base salary into a guaranteed bonus.

For example, when Brandon Carr restructured, they converted $13,250,000 of his 14 mil base salary into a bonus giving them only a cap hit of 750,000.

So a bonus doesn't count as a cap hit? Or do you just spread the hit over the life of the deal?

milkman 04-28-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 9642602)
I'm kinda thirsty, go fetch me a milk, pillowbitergot.

Homophobic insults from children are always amusing.

O.city 04-28-2013 09:08 PM

If this whole situation didn't humble Alberts demands, he's truly a dumb shit and can walk.

-King- 04-28-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9642686)
So a bonus doesn't count as a cap hit? Or do you just spread the hit over the life of the deal?

Pretty sure it's the latter, but not 100% sure.

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9642633)
To note that Jason Coles article is nothing but opinion and speculation.

He's a very plugged in guy. More than speculation IMO

O.city 04-28-2013 09:10 PM

Yeah, I think you spread a bonus, but take the hit on the cash cap, which IIRC, we are already close to.

penbrook 04-28-2013 09:11 PM

There is a mandatory mini camp coming up in a couple of weeks.

We will see if Albert shows than.

O.city 04-28-2013 09:12 PM

If they weren't prepared to play him on the tag, they shouldn't have tagged him.


I think he's probably here for the long haul.

Sassy Squatch 04-28-2013 09:12 PM

Houston is up pretty soon, right? Doesn't hurt to extend him before it becomes an issue.

penbrook 04-28-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9642698)
If they weren't prepared to play him on the tag, they shouldn't have tagged him.


I think he's probably here for the long haul.

Yep. Dorsey said they tagged him because he was a good football player and if he thought he wasnt he wouldnt of tagged him.

Also Rapoport says Dorsey loves Albert the football player.

Mother****erJones 04-28-2013 09:15 PM

When is the rookies mini camp and the entire team mini camp?

Sassy Squatch 04-28-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9642706)
Yep. Dorsey said they tagged him because he was a good football player and if he thought he wasnt he wouldnt of tagged him.

Also Rapoport says Dorsey loves Albert the football player.

Too bad Albert, or at least his agent, is a dipshit.

O.city 04-28-2013 09:16 PM

Yeah, either Alberts agent is ****ing him over, or Albert is a dipshit.

WV 04-28-2013 09:16 PM

If Dorsey trades him now it will be one more nail in the coffin. He's losing credibilty fast.

-King- 04-28-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9642699)
Houston is up pretty soon, right? Doesn't hurt to extend him before it becomes an issue.

He's not going to want to extend this year though.


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