Realistic-Optimistic Outlook
 

The negativity of this place gets a little tiresome at times. I, as many want and desire a young first round QB, I was even on the Barkley wagon this year. However, the hate of Alex Smith is a little over-board. Am I personally happy we sent a 2nd rounder for him? Absolutely not, but he is far better than the majority of people are giving him credit for. He was a fumbled punt away from taking his team the the SB two years ago, in which he played very well in the playoffs, and off to a pretty good season last year.

With that being said, I am not saying I love the guy, but he is 20 times better than Casshole, and anyone who says otherwise has never seen him play in a game... The Chiefs will compete this year, they will compete for the wild card.

I could see a 10-6 season, with Alex Smith playing well, like he will do for the next 3-4 years. It's bitter-sweet, we won't get the QB we want in the first round, but this WILL be a competitive team, that WILL be fun to watch..

I am calling it now. Smith will throw for 3500 yards, 28 td's, and 11 INTS.

Boom.

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28 TD? Are you sober?

We already have our first-round QB on the roster.. he's named Alex Smith.

Superbowl!

Two 2nd rounders...and the one from this year was practically a 1st.

I think he meant ints for tds

Well, to the OP, I tend to agree. With the giant pile of dogshit that Pioli left to the new regime, I'm OK with what they've done to this point to make the team competitive again. Now, are the chiefs superbowl contenders? Not even close. But, a season or two or tweaking, and I can see that becoming a reality. I'm looking forward to some pretty good football this fall.

Before the concussion game, Alex Smith was on pace for 24 TDs and 3200 yards. I don't think that 28 is unreasonable at all

And you're practically only one standard deviation below the norm on IQ scales.

Nail, meet head

We know.

you want to be optimistic?

fine ill be optmistic here is what to cheer for this season (training camp, preseason and the season media, reports, news bits and games)

Pros (cheers!)

+All the new draft picks. Eric Fisher didnt do anything to us, neither did Travis Kelce or Harvad man sackmaster in the 7th round. Here's why you cheer for them this season, and hear me out: These guys drafted are most likely coming in to replace a really shitty Scooter picked player or some scrub at a position, and I mean, how in the **** can you argue that. In Fisher's case, you cheer for him over Albert unless you are one of those fans that wants to give Albert 9 million per for the next 5 years and cap strap us from then giving Berry/Houston/actual good players on the team new contracts cause we are paying out the ass for guys like Albert. Keep the money open for when real players command a big day and cheer for Eric Fisher to be better than Albert. Also get back a pick in 2014 that you lost on that god awful Alex Smith trade for the love of ****

+Tyler Bray. You cheer for Tyler Bray because he's technically a rookie. He's our rookie QB, no matter if it was the first round or no round, this is the closest thing we have this year to a QB of the future. And I was never on the Stanzi wagon (mainly because Scooter couldnt evaluate draft picks to save his life) but Tyler Bray, does have talent, he had draft grades and was projected as value in some round, he came out early to someones advice that he would be picked, though it was bad advice, the point is at one time the hype was there for this kid and all the draft hype and mocks leading up to it on this forum or elsewhere on the internet prove that. Also he's not Alex Smith or Chase Daniel and that alone should be enough to cheer him on as those two guys are ****ing horrible. Points to consider here: Tennessee had another undrafted player a few years ago named Arian Foster who had similar knocks on him about motivation and the like. Also we have Eric Berry and Dustin Colquitt also from Tennessee, and they both make a ****load of money, they can hopefully show Bray what it takes to get a big contract in the NFL.

+Fan favorites. 0-16 or 16-0 there will always be bright spots on this team keep cheering the Derrick Johnsons, Eric Berrys, Brandon Flowers, Bowe Shows, Jamaal Charles, Justin Houstons, Tamba Halis of the world and hope they carry our crappy 30 year old QB to a couple competitive wins on Sunday.

+All draft picks of the last four years (2009-2012) losing starting jobs or getting cut. Cheer for competition! Cheer knowing that training camp practices wont be propped up by media hype of Jon Baldwin jumping over Jalil Brown in shorts as a top story anymore. Cheer that guys like Kendrick Lewis and Tony Moeaki and Allen Bailey and Jeff Allen and other terrible picks wont sniff the field and maybe even be cut from this team. Gone are the days of Jalil Brown and Devon Wylie and hopefully Jon Baldwin stinking up the joint. Cheer they are on the inactive lists on Sundays because then that means the talent got better on this team and we got a more competitive product.

Cons (dont cheer)

Alex Smith. It's going to be ugly and will most likely be a disaster record wise with this guy as QB. There's a very realistic chance he comes back to reality like his first 6 years in the league rather than his last year and half anomaly. He's nearing 30 years old, hes injury prone and hes got a noodle arm. It's going to be painful on Sundays when hes taking 50 sacks or checking off Bowe to the TE or HB dump pass, but it will be worth it in the long run. The quicker this turd is gone the better we are as fans.


Scooter Peeoli picks. Dont waste your time hoping Jon Baldwin is finally going to live up to that draft pick slot or Kendrick Lewis will finally square up and make tackle or Jeff Allen will finally be a starting guard or Tony Moeaki was worth trading up for over Jimmy Graham because I have Iowa homervision goggles on. These guys will get beat out by veterans, rookies and all around better players coming in. We will benefit from not falling into the hype of guys who dont produce.

If Casshole can, Smith can.

Like I said, not thrilled, but he will be better than anyone is expecting. He did all of his part to take a team to the freaking SB.

I wish it were a rookie QB, but I really think the Chiefs will compete for a Wild Card.

I have not had this much of anticipation since the Boerigter days

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It's amazing how many retreaded and repeated threads have been created in the past 2 to 3 months-doesn't anybody search anymore or does everyone think ALL their ideas and thoughts are original???

This entire forum could be merged into 50 good threads and cover all the topics-getting ridiculous

:facepalm:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=271150

Shut up. We're being realistic & optimistic here.

I don't think those numbers are out of his realm. I think 28 TD's might be a bit steep, but doable.

Its amazing how many retreaded and repeated posts have been made by people that dont pay the server costs whining about retreaded and repeated threads.

I dont have a problem with him being our stop-gap QB for this year, he probably is the best available. But an 8-8 to 9-7 season isnt even close to worth what we had to give up for him.

Im with Lil Stumppy,
Geno wont have as good a record, yards thrown, TD, or lower INTs this season compared to Smith. EVERY team passed on Geno for a reason. We gave up second round picks for the best available QB. I want a QB to groom and be a franchise QB as well but I also dont want him starting year one because Andrew Luck isnt coming back to be drafted.
Playoff win this year, and three before Geno sniffs the playoffs.
Cant flame me for something that hasnt happened and you look stupid for saying Geno is worth anything until he wins something.

It is funny when people try to make a smart sounding insult, that is actually not an insult at all. I think that is what we call irony.

...and the numbers 7 and 9

Studies show that people with a "glass is half empty" outlook on life live longer... so we have that going for us here.

I was thinking more like 4 & 12...

3-13.

ROFL

this

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op, read this statement plz

then take your fingers out of your ass, and smell them

I don't remember stating I liked the trade anywhere :rolleyes:

I do remember stating the guy is more talented than the majority gives him credit for, and they WILL compete for the west. Guarantee it.

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Anyone who compares him to Casshole has never watched both play.

I hit the 20 year mark of being a Chiefs fan.

20 years of misery will make one skeptical at the least. So, GFY

Understandable. I want a young QB as much as anyone, but this guy has the tools to be solid, as shown the past season and 1/2.

The interesting thing about Alex Smith is that he actually throws FEWER passes down the field than Casshole.

Your response?

I like your optimism but think you might be a bit too optimistic. Rep to you either way . :thumb:

I've seen this video posted several times and I don't get what's so impressive about it. It shows a minute and a half of scrambles, and the other four minutes are passes where Smith makes one read.

Based on what I was forced to watch with Casshole it's at least accurate and complete.

Did you watch him in the playoffs last year, the Saint's game in particular?


Your response?

5 td, 0 int in play-off appearances, with a 7.3 average per attempt.

Yeah.

That game is not indicative of his ability as a QB.

He never does that.

He's a dink and dunk QB.

I don't understand this video. Why aren't the players in the red or white jerseys jumping 4' in the air when the QB throws the ball? Or, why aren't they being decapitated when they reach out in front of them to catch the ball? This must be some type of "voodoo" QBing that we are seeing.

The Chiefs are "rebuilt" into the 2010 Chiefs... they will need luck and a weak schedule to win 10 games and will have zero staying power in the playoffs.

On pace for a lot more than dinking and dunking last year.

Yea, because we have Matt Cassel to throw 3 ints for us, and piss down his legs... Not.

What? No. His yards per completion was still in the bottom third of the league.

Lower than 2010 Matt Cassel, even!

Alex Smith is dink and dunk more than anyone.

I honestly could see a somewhat similar year to 2010 based on our schedule alone. Haven't seen a schedule so favorable in so long.

And Alex Smith has better weapons at RB and WR here than in San Francisco. Bowe and Charles made Cassel look like a top 10 QB at times in 2010. Don't see why they can't make Smith look better.

People like to throw out dink and dunk like it's this horrible way of playing offense. It's not the greatest obviously, but it works. Big Ben had one of his best seasons last year in Haley's dink and dunk offense.
Alex Smith was on pace to throw 24 TD's last year. Don't see why 25 is so hard to predict since Bowe and Charles are far more dangerous than anyone on that offense not named Vernon Davis.

I honestly think this is one of the more talented Chiefs teams I've witnessed from a personnel point.

On paper

-Our OL looks as good as I have seen it since the DV days (assuming Albert is here which looks to be happening).

-Our LB's look so good. My favorite part of the entire team.

- Our weapons are as strong as I've seen them in a long time. I like Kelce being added to Charles and Bowe.

I think coaching is the biggest factor. It's killed this team for years and I like Andy's aggressive approach.

The DL, WR's outside of Bowe, few holes in the secondary and worry me, but we'll see how it all pans out.

Still stand by 9-7, but I think 10-6 is possible if things go right like they did in 2010 i.e. no injuries, ball falls our way, etc.

Please don't tell me you are trying argue the two are on the same skill level...

And what did Cassel do in the playoffs, and what did Smith do.

Alex Smith can actually read a defense and find an outlet receiver rather than heave it far away so he's not hit by the big mean man rushing thru his pourous OLine?

I'm w/ stumppy, the hate is far overblown. Is he great? No. Is he better than Cassel? Far better. Can we compete with Alex Smith? Honestly not sure there. Better chance than we had before, and probably better (now anyway) than w/ any of the rookies this year.

The hate comes from Chiefs history and the overpriced trade I think, both of them justified. But Dorsey/Ried don't care about the history, and in time may pay the price for the price, so we shall see. Bottom line I DO see an improved team heading in the right direction, so i'm still hopeful for now. I'm not expecting a miracle turnaround in 1 offseason from the shit pile ***** left us in.

Just trying to educate you, young man.

Alex Smith:

1. Throws more short passes than almost anyone else in the NFL.

2. Is the most sacked QB in the NFL.

3. Throws fewer TDs than Matt Cassel.

4. Is terrible on third down.

6-10

If we waist the next two three maybe four years on Alex Smith before we draft a top QB prospect to replace him and not win a Super Bowl, then players like DJ and Tamba Hali and JC and even the ****ing punter Dustin Colquitt can kindly say **** you to the new regime and end their careers with another team.


This is a realistic outlook if we don't draft a quarterback in the next couple of years. We have nothing to gain with Alex Smith.

Agree with the OP. On paper this is definitely a contending football team. Look at how the roster stacks up position by position with the last 2 49er teams. I'd argue this team is about equal everywhere else but has more talent in the secondary, one more outside pass rusher, and more explosive offensive skill position players.

The question is what Andy Reid can do with them.

FWIW he also faced the NFC East that season and went 3-1 with 912 yards,6 td's and 2 int's,his only loss was to Dallas and that went to OT.

I just don't see it in Alex Smith to come in here with this passing attack that Andy Reid has in store for us and light up the score board.


The burden is on them to prove it I sure the hell would like to see some good quarterbacking and matriculate the ball down field on drives that end in touchdowns.


Prove it and I will be happy to go along with it.


Don't prove it and be the way I think it's going to end up then **** Alex Smith and draft a ****ing quarterback so we can move on to better things.

Not counting playoff stats... And playing 15 games.

3313 yds. 23 td. 7int


Close. The guy can win.

Give Alex another year, he's earned it. The defense fell apart during the last half of the season but the offense really started to gel. Get him a #1 Wide Receiver and see what he can do. Hopefully Kelce can actually play this next season.

Pretty damn good prediction there Stumpy ....