Teicher:Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe
 

Chiefs searching for clear-cut second receiver alongside Dwayne Bowe
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
The signature moment for a Chiefs wide receiver during offseason practice happened this week when coach Andy Reid chewed out Jon Baldwin for being lackadaisical in getting to the line of scrimmage before a play.

It’s early, but that can’t be a positive sign for the Chiefs as they work to develop one or more receivers capable of helping Dwayne Bowe boost their passing game. Baldwin is the other starter with Bowe and leads the list of candidates, but hasn’t yet emerged as the dominant offseason player he was last season before faltering when the games started.

The Chiefs signed Donnie Avery, who caught 60 passes for the Colts last season, but he has mostly been a backup. Avery turned an ankle in practice on Tuesday and his participation has been limited since.

Other candidates are Dexter McCluster, who caught a career-high 52 passes last season, veteran Terrance Copper and a group of developmental players trying to establish themselves in the NFL, including Devon Wylie, a fourth-round draft pick last year.

But McCluster has provided the Chiefs few big plays since his arrival in 2010, Copper is a journeyman valued mainly for his special-teams ability and Wylie showed little in the playing time he received late last season.

Reid suggested the Chiefs might mix and match receivers to try to maximize their abilities.

“I don’t mind playing a bunch of wide receivers,” Reid said. “That’s what you do to keep them fresh.

“We’ve got a variety. We’ve got some speed guys. We’ve got some smaller, quick guys. We’ve got big, strong guys and kind of those intermediate guys and that’s OK. We’ll work to all their strengths and allow them to make plays.’’

Baldwin, the Chiefs’ first-round draft pick in 2011, was a major disappointment last season. He repeatedly made impressive catches during offseason work, leading to hopes he would have a breakthrough season.

He didn’t. Baldwin caught just 20 passes, one for a touchdown.

Baldwin was drafted by the Chiefs when their general manager was Scott ***** and coach was Todd Haley. Both are gone, so this season may be Baldwin’s last chance to establish himself with the Chiefs.

“That’s always for everybody,’’ he said. “It doesn’t matter, the coaching staff. You know you’ve got to go and prove it every year. You can’t take any steps backward and think you’ve made it. You’ve just got to continue to work.

“You’ve just got to make steps forward. Coach Reid and (receivers coach David) Culley, those guys are going to work us all hard, going to coach me up pretty hard and I’m looking forward to getting out there and getting the opportunity this year.’’

Perhaps mindful of how Baldwin’s 2012 season turned out, nobody has predicted he will have a breakout year this time. But the Chiefs don’t appear ready to give up on the possibility, either.

“He’s more consistent in his route running,’’ Bowe said. “He’s going to be better because we’ve got a better coach and we’ve got a great quarterback and he’s got a guy like me that’s going to bring him along.’’

The Chiefs signed Avery to be the deep threat they otherwise lacked. The 60 receptions he has last season were a career high.

“I can go over the top and get some yards after the catch,’’ Avery said. “But whatever the coaches dial up, I’ll be happy to do. If it’s going deep, I’ll go deep. If it’s running a slant, I’ll run a slant. Andy Reid runs the show and his mindset is to attack, attack, attack. That’s what we’re doing.

“This is a good group of receivers. Everybody has their attributes. We’ve just got to use them all. Every game somebody is going to be upset because they didn’t get enough touches.’’

The Chiefs for now can only hope that’s the case. New Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith is familiar with the arrangement of receivers where the top player, in this case Bowe, stands out among the group.

Smith, acquired in March in a trade with San Francisco, last year threw to Michael Crabtree, who caught 85 passes and scored nine touchdowns. The 49ers’ second-leading receiver was Mario Manningham, who has 42 catches and one touchdown.

“We’ve got a big group, a lot of talent, a lot of guys with a lot of strengths is really what jumps out at you at first,’’ Smith said. “For right now, we’re all just trying to pick up the offense, get on the same page, work on timing.’’

Water is wet. Thanks KC Star.

i wonder if there were any wide receivers in the draft or was it just fullbacks???

He better shape up or ship out.

Heard some real negatives about Baldwin on talk radio this morning. A guest that has been at the OTAs said that Baldwin shows very poor effort. Not sure where his contract is, but his days with the new coaching staff could get ugly in a real hurry.

Baldwinning?


What a ****ing waste. LMAO

"Smith, acquired in March in a trade with San Francisco, last year threw to Michael Crabtree, who caught 85 passes and scored nine touchdowns."


Weren't 5 of those 9 thrown by Kap??

I still think Baldwin will be fine

Baldwin may be a bigger fail by Pioli than Cassell.

Didn't we just draft 1st in every other round?....

may be?

Especially when you consider Pioli took Baldwin instead of Kapernick when everyone in the war room wanted Kapernick.

This is where I say "Baldwin can't seperate" followed by the response "He was open, but our shit QB's couldn't get him the ball".


Which is it?

The 2nd

Both happened.

Baldwin is as dumb as $#it on a shoe.

He runs routes for $#it and gets abused by CB's half his size...

Ha. 3 different answers. I will qualify further, Cassell usually looked at Bowe

welp now im gonna puke

its sad to think our first round pick WR is more of a "raw" development at his position than our first round pick NT who played in Conference USA.

both workout warriors and both are purely based on hope and hype, not any actual NFL production.

That's really sad. Especially when you should be drafting in the first round for plug and play production

Is this true?

:thumb:

This is the first time I've ever heard this $#it...

Not sure but I know Many wanted kape on here- go back and check the threads.

Last year we had reports in OTAs and TC that Baldwin was kicking ass and turned in an F for the season.


Maybe this is opposite year we get reports he sucks in OTAs and TC and he turns in an A for the season?




Shaw and monkeys will fly out my butt.

the one dude on here with the inside connections reported it long ago.

i forget but i am pretty sure the Scouts wanted a different first round pick every year besides the no brainer Berry.

According to The Bad Guy's source it is. He's talked about it a few times. According to the story, the war room was 100% agreed on taking Kapernick in the first round in 2011, but Pioli overrode everyone and took Baldwin instead.

The KC media was propping him up like he was Terrell Owens, and he ended up being nothing but a long striding, no burst piece of shit.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not before draft day.

There were absolutely NO indications we had any interest at all in the Kap during the draft...

You do know that if anything at all ever happens to Scott Pioli we all at Chiefs Planet will be suspects right?

i wanna die

Please kill me. Thanks Pioli.

if you have watched NFL Network in the last 6 months Scooter himself admits multiple times he screwed up that year and indirectly hints at taking Kap

I remember my debates with Dane where I insisted Kaep was just as good of a prospect as Cam that ended with recommendations of fisting of mothers.

I thought Dalton was "His one regret".

LMAO



nice gif

****er was going down swinging with Cassel

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: :banghead::banghead::banghead:

ROFL yep I know there were Several that wanted to draft the guy. I don't think One peson had us even drafting Baldwin? :doh!::doh!::doh!::doh!:

He just could not admit Cassel was a failure. Hell, he'd be back starting again this year if Scooter was still aboard.

That's about the time I tune out.

You could be right then. I won't argue what I refuse to listen to...

Not true....AT ALL.

Not possible. Cassell is a pretty damn big fail that he shoved down our throats for four years. Cassell got two coaches and the GM that put faith in him canned. Baldwin is a fail sk far and a big one. If this staff can't get him up to WR standards the he is a big bust.

On draft day the board blew up in BOO's.

I was there. Lamp was a casualty...

Pioli's one regret is that he's not still GM.

I seriously doubt that...

I was happy with the Baldwin pick when it happened. I don't know what's going on with him. Either he just doesn't give a **** anymore of the past coaches ****ed up any chance he had. I think he would have been perfectly fine with Haley as the HC because Haley would have pushed him.

Don't think he ever has, or ever will have, good enough quickness to be a good NFL WR.

Most people on this board loved the pick.

This. Even in his rookie year I thought he looked weird running. He runs like he's wearing steel boots. He has terrible quickness and acceleration.

And to make matters worse, he can't seem to ever time his jumps right, which was suppose to be his biggest strength.

Just throwing a blind dart at the wall, but can Baldwin bulk up some and play TE?

Can he gain say 20lbs and play receiving TE? He wouldn't have to be that fast just a big body receiver that takes up space.

Per APDaveSkretta

#Chiefs *S Eric Berry: "We want to be a great defense. We don't want to just be a good defense. We want to make history."

#Chiefs *Mike DeVito compared Dontari Poe to Kris Jenkins. High praise: Jenkins was 2x All-Pro, went to 4 Pro Bowls

Do you even read threads or do you just post shit in the first thread you see?

I said he looked slow with no burst.


I wish I were wrong, but he is what I thought he was.

Why do you intentionally put info in the wrong thread?


I've notice this and think you do it on purpose. This has nothing to do with talking about Baldwin or the WRs.

He already fills that role.


It's a waste of space, but it's space.

I think he needs to lose weight and gain some quickness. IMO, he looks less explosive and bigger in the NFL than he did in College.

Maybe Penbook is trying to compare Poe and Baldwin's quickness off the snap.


It's too close to call.

Per Jacobs71

Baldwin took some positive steps forward today. A majority of the time caught the ball with both hands & arms extended.

It's hard to believe, but I might hate the Baldwin pick worse than the TJax pick.

:eek:

While we're still in fantasy land...

Per APDaveSkretta

#ChiefsPlanet.com poster OTW58: "I wanna titty-**** Kate Upton."

****, not this guy again. Tweet from last year.

@Jacobs71

#Chiefs OTAs Ricky Stanzi looked great again today. He is so accurate with the ball and sharp mechanics.

12:56 PM - 1 Jun 12

:spock: How is Berry saying he wants them to be a great D, Fantasy Land?

I keep forgetting about Baldwin.

I liked the pick at the time.

I've given up on him. Hope he changes our minds.

They're about equal in terms of player worthlessness.

Jackson was a much higher pick and earned a lot more money...a lot easier to hate.

This isn't the guy's problem.

His problem is getting open.

Also Jacobs71 said Majority of the recievers were rounding off there routes and David Culley and Andy Reid let them hear it.

There is word that Haley and the scouts loved kapernick. Its around somewhere. They wanted him instead of Baldwin, billy said Baldwin was as good as Jones so you know Pioli had to draft Baldwin
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I've been saying this for months, hell that weirdo pgm has me on ignore over it...
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No, that's not true. Because everybody keeps saying Haley had enough pieces to win games. Which means Kaepernick wouldn't win any more games for Haley as Cassel did.

I don't understand what you are saying here...
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I'm talking about yet another example of how Pioli ignored the advice of his scouts and his head coach.

And yet, the coaches and scouts still get blamed for Pioli's stupidity. I'm not saying Haley was a great coach. But it goes without saying that if he was allowed to coach with a healthy Jamaal Charles with Kaepernick at QB, 2011 could have looked a hell of a lot different.

Haley was a crazy ****.

Quit defending the guy. He was ****ing nuts.
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Why do people assume Pioli forced Baldwin on Haley? Seems as much of a Haley type pick as a Pioli pick.

This.

Regardless of whether he was crazy.

He was right about the QB.
He was right about being pissed off about Pioli forcing the 2-gap 3-4 on him.
And he is one of a whole league of coaches who believed Pioli was insufferable to work with.

I dont' care if he was crazy. I care about if he could have won games. For as much as CP bitches and moans about the QB situation, we sure as hell undermine how big a deal it is when the coach is forced to use a QB he doesn't want.