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royr17 05-19-2013 03:06 PM

Installing a Car CD Player
 
I got this Sony CD Player that I am installing into a 2000 Pontiac Montana. When I hook it up and turn over the key I am able to insert and eject cd's but get no power to turn it on.

I rewired the wires and I still have the same problem, I dont know what to do. Anybody have any idea what the problem could be, I checked the Radios fuse and its fine.

Help would be much appreciated.

royr17 05-19-2013 03:20 PM

bump .... is there anybody to could help and give me some advice as to what could be the problem.

notorious 05-19-2013 03:22 PM

You are giving it constant power, but your Accessory power is not telling the CD player to "power up".

Check the Acc. power and Constant power to see if you are getting 12-14 volts.

Acc. power should read 12 volts when you turn the key, then go to 0 volts when the key is turned off. The constant power should show 12 volts all the time.

Both wires should be yellow or red. Once you find the constant supply you can do a quick test and split it so that it supplies power to both constant and accessory. If the CD player works, it's a power supply problem.

notorious 05-19-2013 03:26 PM

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Hammock Parties 05-19-2013 03:26 PM

Just take it to Best Buy.

notorious 05-19-2013 03:27 PM

The red wire should be 12 volts all the time.

The yellow wire should be 12 volts only when the key is turned.

TribalElder 05-19-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9692303)

That.

Power wire, memory wire, and ground.

Test it if it's used. Pop your hood put the yellow and red on the positive and the black on the negative of your battery. Make sure it works unless it's new.

royr17 05-19-2013 03:35 PM

are there any fuses i should check that could cause a problem

TribalElder 05-19-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 9692332)
are there any fuses i should check that could cause a problem

Very possible. I used to pop fuses if I hit the cig lighter which would cause the tail lights to quit also. Not cool. There might be barrel fuses inline on the stereo wires also

royr17 05-19-2013 03:46 PM

Back in January the factory stereo that was in my Montana went bad, I unhooked it and then hooked it back up and the radio would work but not the CD player so i just took it out and just got a CD Player to hook up and it'll load and eject CD's but wont power on, I dont have a clue to what the problem could be

jspchief 05-19-2013 03:57 PM

Get a wiring harness from crutchfield.

Stanley Nickels 05-19-2013 03:58 PM

throw away your CDs.

notorious 05-19-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 9692386)
throw away your CDs.

Hell no. They sound a lot better than the MP3 garbage people listen to.

KChiefer 05-19-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 9692243)
I got this Sony CD Player that I am installing into a 2000 Pontiac Montana. When I hook it up and turn over the key I am able to insert and eject cd's but get no power to turn it on.

I rewired the wires and I still have the same problem, I dont know what to do. Anybody have any idea what the problem could be, I checked the Radios fuse and its fine.

Help would be much appreciated.

You checked the fuse on the radio or the fuse in your car that governs the radio area?

My cigarette lighter caused a short and blew a fuse which killed my stereo. What was odd to me was that if I hit "display" button, the stereo would light up and show the clock temporarily, but it wouldn't fully turn on. So yeah, double check the fuses in your car. Also if the stereo has a factory reset pin hole, hit that, couldn't hurt.

royr17 05-19-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9692447)
You checked the fuse on the radio or the fuse in your car that governs the radio area?

My cigarette lighter caused a short and blew a fuse which killed my stereo. What was odd to me was that if I hit "display" button, the stereo would light up and show the clock temporarily, but it wouldn't fully turn on. So yeah, double check the fuses in your car. Also if the stereo has a factory reset pin hole, hit that, couldn't hurt.

I checked both, both fuses are good.

MTG#10 05-19-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9692443)
Hell no. They sound a lot better than the MP3 garbage people listen to.

Yeah screw convenience, get a turntable put in your car. Vinyl sounds a lot better than the CD garbage people listen to.

cosmo20002 05-19-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9692443)
Hell no. They sound a lot better than the MP3 garbage people listen to.

This. Although I guess MP3s are pretty convenient.
But the last time I went to get a new-release CD at Best Buy I couldn't believe how small the CD area had become.

Hammock Parties 05-19-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9692443)
Hell no. They sound a lot better than the MP3 garbage people listen to.

It's a ****ing car stereo.

I'd bet you any amount of money you couldn't tell the difference between a 320 kbps mp3 vs a CD with the engine running in average traffic.

Miles 05-19-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9692482)
This. Although I guess MP3s are pretty convenient.
But the last time I went to get a new-release CD at Best Buy I couldn't believe how small the CD area had become.

There really isn't a noticeable difference between 320 kbps MP3s and CDs, and even then it would take a fairly serious system.

cosmo20002 05-19-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 9692556)
There really isn't a noticeable difference between 320 kbps MP3s and CDs, and even then it would take a fairly serious system.

Are they typically 320 though, say through iTunes?

Hammock Parties 05-19-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9692570)
Are they typically 320 though, say through iTunes?

Anything worth buying on iTunes you can buy in a lossless format and convert to mp3.

notorious 05-19-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9692554)
It's a ****ing car stereo.

I'd bet you any amount of money you couldn't tell the difference between a 320 kbps mp3 vs a CD with the engine running in average traffic.




DUH. When did 320 become the MP3 standard?

For normal people that just throw shit in their car and listens to normal MP3 samples, of course they won't hear the difference.


Clarion DRX-9255
AudioControl 4.1
Phoneix Gold MX3i
Phoneix Gold EQ232
Phoenix Gold ZX-450v2 (Bi Amped)
Phonnix ld ZX-500v2 pushing an Image Dynamics IDQ 10v2
JBL 500 GTi mids+ JBL GTi Titanium Tweeters


It's night and day in my setup when it comes to a normal MP3 vs. CD.

SAUTO 05-19-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9692697)
DUH. When did 320 become the MP3 standard?

For normal people that just throw shit in their car and listens to normal MP3 samples, of course they won't hear the difference.


Clarion DRX-9255
AudioControl 4.1
Phoneix Gold MX3i
Phoneix Gold EQ232
Phoenix Gold ZX-450v2 (Bi Amped)
Phonnix ld ZX-500v2 pushing an Image Dynamics IDQ 10v2
JBL 500 GTi mids+ JBL GTi Titanium Tweeters


It's night and day in my setup when it comes to a normal MP3 vs. CD.

LOL
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notorious 05-19-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9692727)
LOL
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I spent way too much money on the equipment and way to much time installing it to my standards.

The awesome thing is that most of it sold for what I paid for it, and all of my GTi subs (2 1500's, 2 1000's, and 4 800's) sold for more than I paid for them new.

I kept the 9255. I will never let it go.

SAUTO 05-19-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9692740)
I spent way too much money on the equipment and way to much time installing it to my standards.

The awesome thing is that most of it sold for what I paid for it, and all of my GTi subs (2 1500's, 2 1000's, and 4 800's) sold for more than I paid for them new.

I kept the 9255. I will never let it go.

I used to rock the Phoenix gold way back buddy.
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notorious 05-19-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9692747)
I used to rock the Phoenix gold way back buddy.
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It was good stuff.

The gear I liked the most were the M and MS amps. I used a couple M25's and M50's for a while and loved their simplicity.

The ZX series had problems with the potentiometers going out on their EQ sections. I had 2 fixed over the years and finally said screw it and got the MX3i.

I wouldn't touch their stuff today, though. Besides, I don't have time to screw with it anymore.

Shogun 05-19-2013 06:11 PM

I have a quite nice set up in my truck, spent too much money on it though

SAUTO 05-19-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9692761)
It was good stuff.

The gear I liked the most were the M and MS amps. I used a couple M25's and M50's for a while and loved their simplicity.

The ZX series had problems with the potentiometers going out on their EQ sections. I had 2 fixed over the years and finally said screw it and got the MX3i.

I wouldn't touch their stuff today, though. Besides, I don't have time to screw with it anymore.

I rocked a couple m100 in the day. Woah buddy
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Johnny Vegas 05-19-2013 06:21 PM

wiring harness for the car model is key. probably needs to be grounded as well, but you'll get that all fixed once you get the wiring harness. Something about the driver door shutting the cd player off when you open it as well as the car bing sound when you open the door is fed through the speakers. The harness is needed then everything is back to normal. Its weird, but its what I learned from having 4 decks installed in different cars at best buy. All cars required a wiring harness for the aftermarket deck in order to work.

royr17 05-19-2013 10:48 PM

well i found out what the problem is, the red power cable aint gettin no pull, i ran the red cable from the cd player and hooked it to the yellow now i am able to power it on.

bevischief 05-20-2013 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9692382)
Get a wiring harness from crutchfield.

this

Stanley Nickels 05-20-2013 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 9693590)
well i found out what the problem is, the red power cable aint gettin no pull, i ran the red cable from the cd player and hooked it to the yellow now i am able to power it on.

that is neat i am glad you figured that out that it werent gettin no pull and so you rand the red cable from the cd player and hooked it to the yellow now you is able to power it on

notorious 05-20-2013 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 9693590)
well i found out what the problem is, the red power cable aint gettin no pull, i ran the red cable from the cd player and hooked it to the yellow now i am able to power it on.

:hmmm:

You aren't getting constant 12 volts? More than likely your setting will reset every time you turn off the car unless you find a new source.


There is a reason you are not getting 12 volts through the constant. Check all of the fuses (there could be more than one fuse box).

Dave Lane 05-20-2013 07:20 AM

I know royr17's problem.

ndws 05-20-2013 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9692740)
I spent way too much money on the equipment and way to much time installing it to my standards.

The awesome thing is that most of it sold for what I paid for it, and all of my GTi subs (2 1500's, 2 1000's, and 4 800's) sold for more than I paid for them new.

I kept the 9255. I will never let it go.

Yep, same here. Sold all my US Amps stuff actually for more than I bought it for. Good times. Sad thing was never getting it finally put together before I completely lost interest and parted it all out.

royr17 05-20-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9693747)
:hmmm:

You aren't getting constant 12 volts? More than likely your setting will reset every time you turn off the car unless you find a new source.


There is a reason you are not getting 12 volts through the constant. Check all of the fuses (there could be more than one fuse box).

How do I locate where the problem is why the red wire aint pulling 12 volts constantly ?

jspchief 05-20-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 9694600)
How do I locate where the problem is why the red wire aint pulling 12 volts constantly ?

Get someone who isn't an idiot to look at it.

notorious 05-20-2013 05:13 PM

I would do a series of tests with a voltmeter starting at the constant power behind your cd player and work back to the battery.

My money is on a fuse being blown that doesn't look blown. I have seen it a bunch of times.

SAUTO 05-20-2013 06:07 PM

The little metal pieces on a fuse make it easy to test it with a light while its still installed. No need to just look at it. Much faster too
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Jewish Rabbi 05-20-2013 06:35 PM

Antifreeze

Dave Lane 05-20-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9694886)
Get someone who isn't an idiot to look at it.

Don't let the secret out.


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