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Tribal Warfare 06-17-2013 05:40 PM

Mellinger:Joining media won’t fix Scott Pioli’s NFL reputation
 
Joining media won’t fix Scott Pioli’s NFL reputation
By SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star
Scott Pioli’s new life will require a microphone and makeup and there are a million jokes we can make here, some of them funny, all of them missing the point.

We can kid about how Pioli will begin a six-minute answer on live TV by asking to go “10,000 miles off the record,” or filibuster every segment by taking credit for the Patriots’ Super Bowls and continuing to blame his struggles with the Chiefs on Carl Peterson. But all of this misses the point.

Pioli’s name is a virtual curse word for many in the place he still calls home. The man who never saw much use for the media is now a member of the media. But if we can get away from jokes about candy wrappers and vitriolic banners flying at Arrowhead Stadium on game days and the “Right 53,” we can see what is happening here.

Pioli is making the predictable career move to join NBC’s Sunday night NFL studio show after being fired as Chiefs general manager in January.

And he’s kidding himself if he thinks this is the fix to a diminished reputation around the NFL.

“Evaluating in my old job the things I did well and the things I did not do well, I certainly believe understanding the media and what their job is was something I did not do a good job of,” Pioli told Sports Illustrated. “I thought this was a good opportunity to learn and grow, and get better in a lot of different areas.”

Pioli said those words in an SI.com piece that broke the news of his new career, which also will include appearances on NBC Sports Network. He didn’t respond to a message for this column, but if his goal is to get back into an NFL front office, his evaluation needs to go beyond how he dealt with the media.

Pioli is smart, driven, prepared, intellectually exhaustive and a hundred other things that could make him a productive part of a team’s front office. But he’ll remain a creation of Bill Belichick if he doesn’t understand what truly sunk him in Kansas City.

It’s true that Pioli was generally awful with the media, especially in his last year with the Chiefs. Usually, he just wouldn’t talk. When he did, his answers often alternated between condescending, defensive, rambling and amazingly self-unaware.

Pioli was awkward in interviews, overthinking every word. He was also obsessed with everything written or said about him, often quoting columns in the paper old enough that the links had expired.

But football people can be bad with the media and good at their jobs. Pioli knows this well after spending nine years working for Belichick in New England. But Belichick is good at his job. If Pioli is honest with himself, he’ll see he could’ve sent bags of manure to every reporter in town and kept his job as the Chiefs GM if he was good at it.

As much as he’d like to blame the media for his problems here — and Pioli started pushing that narrative to friends around the league months before he was finally fired — if he wants another chance, he’ll have to understand he was a rotten GM in ways that had nothing to do with media.

For starters, he hired two bad head coaches, blew way too many draft picks, and did precious little to strengthen the roster other than sign guys he inherited to long-term contracts.

But mostly, Pioli spent way too much time on things that had nothing to do with winning football games or bringing in better players.

Pioli talked a lot about creating “a championship environment” with the Chiefs, but mostly it turned into an environment where too many people were scared for their professional lives. Insecurity is why he spent so much time bad-mouthing what he took over from Peterson, tried to run the team’s communications department, and surrounded himself with too many yes-men to get honest self-evaluations.

Going on TV is a smart career move, considering that interest from NFL teams was apparently tepid. He’ll have the platform of network television every week, and if Pioli finds comfort in front of a camera then the football world might remember New England more and Kansas City less.

He’s a smart guy with a lot to offer in the right situation, and as a holding cell until something inside the league materializes, joining the NBC crew is a good move.

But to really prepare for another NFL job, Pioli needs to focus on the problems that surfaced in his four years running the Chiefs. The problems that matter have nothing to do with the media.

Tribal Warfare 06-17-2013 05:41 PM

the link is ****ed up because of the word filter

Hammock Parties 06-17-2013 05:43 PM

I didn't know mellinger had a flying war mech.

TribalElder 06-17-2013 05:54 PM

he is just doing this to troll us

feed him to the beast!
http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/e.../075/AUCrI.png

OrtonsPiercedTaint 06-17-2013 06:03 PM

Lost interest 1/3rd the way through.

BlackHelicopters 06-17-2013 07:18 PM

Optimus Prime

BossChief 06-17-2013 07:36 PM

I really love this paragraph:

*****’s name is a virtual curse word for many in the place he still calls home. The man who never saw much use for the media is now a member of the media. But if we can get away from jokes about candy wrappers and vitriolic banners flying at Arrowhead Stadium on game days and the “Right 53,” we can see what is happening here.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2013 07:38 PM

Does Pioli still live in ****ing Kansas City?

The Bad Guy 06-17-2013 07:51 PM

The hatred I have for Pioli is really immense and unhealthy.

The Bad Guy 06-17-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9757944)
Does ***** still live in ****ing Kansas City?

Sure does. Lives right next door to Andy. I hope Andy shits on his lawn.

RunKC 06-17-2013 07:53 PM

I wonder if Pioli will ever get a job in the NFL again? Who in their right mind would hire him to be the GM?

Hammock Parties 06-17-2013 07:53 PM

Jesus Christ. I hope someone is watching him carefully. He probably HATES Chiefs fans and is liable to snap at any moment.

The Bad Guy 06-17-2013 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9758090)
I wonder if ***** will ever get a job in the NFL again? Who in their right mind would hire him to be the GM?

He will get one no question. There's enough dicks he will suck this year to get one.

Pioli is the biggest fraud in sports.

mcaj22 06-17-2013 07:55 PM

lol ugh, its going to be exactly what we predicted it seems too according to this, hes going to yap about the Patriot Way and then all the Good Players he evaluated and didnt draft while in KC. (Kaepernick, Dalton, etc):

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...-football.html

Quote:

You may have thought Ray Lewis would be the most noxious addition to an NFL talking head show this fall. Well, you’d still be right. But here’s another studio show addition that’s almost as bad: NBC is bringing on former Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli to the already bloated roster of Football Night In America.

Oh, the unspeakable things that will result. Not only does it make an incoherent, crowded show that much more unwatchable, but it means opportunities for Rodney Harrison and Pioli to gush about the Patriot Way on air. Oh, and does it help that Pioli and Peter King are friends? Only if you’re looking for someone to come between the torrid love affair between PK and Mike Florio.

Pioli said NBC Sports executives have told him they want him to be an “informationalist.” He described that position as “being able to talk about experiences, tie them into what is happening currently, and attempt to educate fans and viewers about how things really work behind the scenes.”

INFORMATIONALIST! That’s so much better than BULLSHITITARIAN, which is apparently the job title of everyone else working there. If anything, the insights from Pioli won’t differ greatly from what Bill Polian does at ESPN: attempt to rewrite the history of his own blunders while using his media platform to settle old grudges. Apparently every network needs that now.


DaFace 06-17-2013 07:57 PM

I'm killing the Pioli filter. Don't hate me.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9758113)
I'm killing the Pioli filter. Don't hate me.

NOOOOOOO

rico 06-17-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9758093)
Jesus Christ. I hope someone is watching him carefully. He probably HATES Chiefs fans and is liable to snap at any moment.

He's probably numb by this point... Presumably went from being a numb-skull to a numb-skull with a numb-soul.

mcaj22 06-17-2013 08:01 PM

the best ever was when he was caught on camera last season talking to that equal douchebag Greg Schiano, those two uptight twads are meant to be working together you watch

RunKC 06-17-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9758095)
He will get one no question. There's enough dicks he will suck this year to get one.

Pioli is the biggest fraud in sports.

He probably will, but it will probably be as an assistant. No way he gets another GM job. Maybe years from now he might get a GM job, but he was exposed so badly here.

I don't see how any owner can read Arrowhead Anxiety and think for a second that this guy would even deserve an interview to be a GM for their team.

rico 06-17-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9758140)
the best ever was when he was caught on camera last season talking to that equal douchebag Greg Schiano, those two uptight twads are meant to be working together you watch

My favorite was during a Monday night game, I think. Or maybe it was a Sunday night game. I think it was vs. the Chargers. At the end of the game, they showed him in his seat wearing these hipster glasses and he was noticeably agitated when he noticed the cameras on him.

DeezNutz 06-17-2013 08:07 PM

Pioli absolutely should remain filtered on this site. What a completely worthless piece of mother****ing shit he was.

And the second paragraph in that column absolutely eviscerates the clown. Well done, Mellinger.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2013 08:08 PM

It's awesome that Pioli lives in KC and is still getting eviscerated in the local paper. Just awesome.

Suck it, Fat Scott.

DeezNutz 06-17-2013 08:10 PM

Fat Scott will eat a gallon of cookies and cream tonight, rereading Mellinger's column 500 times.

Suck our KC cocks, NE trash.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2013 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9758229)
Fat Scott will eat a gallon of cookies and cream tonight, rereading Mellinger's column 500 times.

Suck our KC cocks, NE trash.

http://i.imgur.com/FLpCXaK.gif

stonedstooge 06-17-2013 08:13 PM

No forgiveness Fat Scott

mcaj22 06-17-2013 08:22 PM

i like how he got real skinny and the Fat Scott name will forever stick regardless. lol

Bugeater 06-17-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9758113)
I'm killing the Pioli filter. Don't hate me.

I love you.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9758283)
i like how he got real skinny and the Fat Scott name will forever stick regardless. lol

He's not real skinny. Still looks like a chub to me. Probably wears XL and thinks he's "buff."

TEX 06-17-2013 08:24 PM

What gets me is WHY would the networks want him? He was exposed in KC as one who rode the Hooded Ones's coat tails (like most ex-Patriots). Who could really respect one word that mother ****ing Scott Pioli has to say? ) No credibility = 0 listeners. Just my take...

GloryDayz 06-17-2013 08:42 PM

I wish he was my neighbor! I'd get the RV from the Griswold Xmas movie and do this a number of times a year to him when he had visitors..

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...McqBI1z8YZbp-1

milkman 06-17-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9758081)
The hatred I have for Pioli is really immense and unhealthy.

Eh....He's history.

I have John Dorsey and Andy Reid to bitch about now.

007 06-17-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9758113)
I'm killing the Pioli filter. Don't hate me.

Just change it to Polio instead.

Deberg_1990 06-17-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9757663)
.

He’s a smart guy with a lot to offer in the right situation,

I honestly don't believe this at all. I think he's a complete Bellichek coattails rider. He probably still believes he did nothing wrong in KC. I never saw one ounce of humility in him.
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007 06-17-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9758328)
I wish he was my neighbor! I'd get the RV from the Griswold Xmas movie and do this a number of time a year to him when he had visitors..

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...McqBI1z8YZbp-1

Sweet

notorious 06-17-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

As much as he’d like to blame the media for his problems here — and Pioli started pushing that narrative to friends around the league months before he was finally fired — if he wants another chance, he’ll have to understand he was a rotten GM in ways that had nothing to do with media.
That dickless ****wad blames he media? :facepalm:

Buehler445 06-17-2013 08:59 PM

**** that goddamned cocksucking mother****ing sack of rabid rat manure.

Buehler445 06-17-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9758348)
I honestly don't believe this at all. I think he's a complete Bellichek coattails rider. He probably still believes he did nothing wrong in KC. I never saw one ounce of humility in him.
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This. Times a billion.

alpha_omega 06-17-2013 09:05 PM

Wait, he still lives here????

He makes bad decisions at everything I guess.

Nightfyre 06-17-2013 09:10 PM

Talk about kicking a man while he is down. I mean sure, he destroyed a fantastic window of opportunity for the Chiefs, but at the end of the day he is still a man. The timing of this article is just in bad taste.

Titty Meat 06-17-2013 09:10 PM

He made two bad coaching hires? What? /haley ball washers

Titty Meat 06-17-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9758085)
Sure does. Lives right next door to Andy. I hope Andy shits on his lawn.

Andy?

Coach 06-17-2013 09:13 PM

Mellinger....

Writing an article about Pioli is a good way to get your ass flamed. Here's a brilliant idea....

Let's write about something else, ANYTHING else that has NOTHING to do with Pioli. Jesus.

notorious 06-17-2013 09:14 PM

He is a colossal dipshit.


**** him and his entire existence.

rico 06-17-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9758411)
Mellinger....

Writing an article about Pioli is a good way to get your ass flamed. Here's a brilliant idea....

Let's write about something else, ANYTHING else that has NOTHING to do with Pioli. Jesus.

Haha, Pioli must have really ground his balls somehow. I mean, yeah Pioli sucked and Cassel was traumatizing, but I think it goes deeper than his Chiefs failures with Mellinger... The dude thinks he's a sack of shit and it appears to be on a professional and personal level, imo.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9758397)
Talk about kicking a man while he is down. I mean sure, he destroyed a fantastic window of opportunity for the Chiefs, but at the end of the day he is still a man. The timing of this article is just in bad taste.

**** that.

Scott Pioli is an inhuman monster.

He deserves to be depressed until he's on his deathbed.

DeezNutz 06-17-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9758397)
Talk about kicking a man while he is down. I mean sure, he destroyed a fantastic window of opportunity for the Chiefs, but at the end of the day he is still a man. The timing of this article is just in bad taste.

**** that. That fat piece of shit needs to be treated like the rogue sperm that matriculated down his Mom's ass crack that he is.

O.city 06-17-2013 09:34 PM

Once again, same with the story about Matthews and the Aids trees, you take the money they make, you put yourself in that position.

Don't act like a jackass and treat people right and this doesn't happen.

Bugeater 06-17-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9758397)
Talk about kicking a man while he is down. I mean sure, he destroyed a fantastic window of opportunity for the Chiefs, but at the end of the day he is still a man. The timing of this article is just in bad taste.

And you're a ginormous vagina if you really think that way. If the asshole doesn't want his face rubbed in his pathetic failures he can go the **** away somewhere.

DeezNutz 06-17-2013 09:36 PM

We really should fly one more banner, demanding that **** to leave town.

O.city 06-17-2013 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9758449)
We really should fly one more banner, demanding that **** to leave town.

Literally laughed out loud, spit out some chocolate milk there.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9758449)
We really should fly one more banner, demanding that **** to leave town.

If he's here in October his house should be littered with candy wrappers.

Happy Halloween, you scum.

Lex Luthor 06-17-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9758113)
I'm killing the Pioli filter. Don't hate me.

The filter served its purpose. It was time to retire it since Pioli is irrelevant now.

ShortRoundChief 06-17-2013 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9758461)
If he's here in October his house should be littered with candy wrappers.

Happy Halloween, you scum.

Bags of them dropped out of a plane with a banner a flying right on to his lawn.

BigBeauford 06-17-2013 10:10 PM

***** will forever live on as a cheap scapegoat for some miserable seasons. Which is a shame, since I blame Cassel.

Bugeater 06-17-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qbsacker93 (Post 9758520)
***** will forever live on as a cheap scapegoat for some miserable seasons. Which is a shame, since I blame Cassel.

Who the **** do you think brought Cassel here?

007 06-17-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qbsacker93 (Post 9758520)
***** will forever live on as a cheap scapegoat for some miserable seasons. Which is a shame, since I blame Cassel.

:spock:

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-17-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9758333)
Eh....He's history.

I have John Dorsey and Andy Reid to bitch about now.

This. Especially since they are REPEATING THE GODDAMNED FORMULA. HELLO? IS THIS THING ON? LIL' CHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEF-EY????

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-17-2013 10:48 PM

**** him. The NSA should do a public service and publish his cell and home phone numbers every time the asshole changes them.

ShortRoundChief 06-17-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9758588)
This. Especially since they are REPEATING THE GODDAMNED FORMULA. HELLO? IS THIS THING ON? LIL' CHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEF-EY????

Everytime you say Lil Chiefy, I'm going to put a hit out on one of them Sally Struthers kids that you could save with $1 a month.

Continue with the nonsense and their blood will be on your hands.

Fritz88 06-17-2013 10:52 PM

" The man who never saw much use for the media is now a member of the media"

That's a killer.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 06-17-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9758601)
Everytime you say Lil Chiefy, I'm going to put a hit out on one of them Sally Struthers kids that you could save with $1 a month.

Continue with the nonsense and their blood will be on your hands.

Send Dave. Maybe they'll eat his dumb ass.

TEX 06-18-2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9758437)
**** that. That fat piece of shit needs to be treated like the rogue sperm that matriculated down his Mom's ass crack that he is.

This. Besides, the artilce is not bad - it's pretty much the truth. This is how life goes Scott - get over it.

Frazod 06-18-2013 10:24 AM

This is the difference between the local KC media and the national media.

On a national level, nobody cares what this piece of shit did to the Chiefs, because they don't care about the Chiefs, or anything in Kansas City. He's part of the NFL club, he's deeply connected, and they created a job for him. I'm sure they'll gloss over his raging failures here and focus on his time in New England.

I'm getting to the point where I can't stand to watch anything but the games themselves, so I really don't care all that much.

the Talking Can 06-18-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9758229)
Fat Scott will eat a gallon of cookies and cream tonight, rereading Mellinger's column 500 times.

Suck our KC cocks, NE trash.

this brings me such an unhealthy amount of joy


Scott Pioli is the single biggest fraud in sports

Beef Supreme 06-18-2013 10:48 AM

I don't think Pioli rode Belichick's coat tails, I think Belichick and Pioli rode Tom Brady's coat tails. The Patriot way is stumbling over Tom Brady in the 6th round.

Rausch 06-18-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9758607)
" The man who never saw much use for the media is now a member of the media"

That's a killer.
Posted via Mobile Device

Wouldn't it be funny if the only reason they made him prom queen was to dump pig blood on him?...:evil:

TEX 06-18-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9759111)
This is the difference between the local KC media and the national media.

On a national level, nobody cares what this piece of shit did to the Chiefs, because they don't care about the Chiefs, or anything in Kansas City. He's part of the NFL club, he's deeply connected, and they created a job for him. I'm sure they'll gloss over his raging failures here and focus on his time in New England.

I'm getting to the point where I can't stand to watch anything but the games themselves, so I really don't care all that much.

You ****ING said it brother!

Titty Meat 06-18-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 9759161)
I don't think Pioli rode Belichick's coat tails, I think Belichick and Pioli rode Tom Brady's coat tails. The Patriot way is stumbling over Tom Brady in the 6th round.

That's not true Pioli/BB went 11-5 with Matt Cassel

milkman 06-19-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9759661)
That's not true Pioli/BB went 11-5 with Matt Cassel

Bellichick is on his way to the HoF because of Tom Brady.

Dick Rebhorn, Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels all played a role in getting Brady to New England and developing him into what he has become, as did Bellichick.

But without Brady, Belichick would be roughly on the same level as Marty in the coaching ranks.

ct 06-19-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9759661)
That's not true Pioli/BB went 11-5 with Matt Cassel

The 2010 Kansas City Chiefs with Pioli/Haley went 10-6 with Matt Cassel. What's your point?

Titty Meat 06-19-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct (Post 9762286)
The 2010 Kansas City Chiefs with Pioli/Haley went 10-6 with Matt Cassel. What's your point?

Dumbass.

The point is brady isn't the only talented piece on the patriots.

mcaj22 06-19-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9759111)
This is the difference between the local KC media and the national media.

On a national level, nobody cares what this piece of shit did to the Chiefs, because they don't care about the Chiefs, or anything in Kansas City. He's part of the NFL club, he's deeply connected, and they created a job for him. I'm sure they'll gloss over his raging failures here and focus on his time in New England.

I'm getting to the point where I can't stand to watch anything but the games themselves, so I really don't care all that much.

Actually, on a national level ole Fat Scott is hated/disliked outside his little clique of Browns/Patriots tree buddies and a couple media people (Peter King)

he literally had a favor flown in to him ala his boy Lombardi leaving NFN for the Browns and Peter King. Those guys practically opened and help him get a seat on television.

There are only two or three teams hes connected to right now as most of the Patriots frauds have been finally driven away. The Falcons and Patriots. I do think him and Schiano in Tampa are buddies cause they have the same egotistical personalities and their convo caught on camera last year.

Fat Scott sucks and everyone knows it/is quick to turn on him. You heard Warren Sapp soundbit when his microphone wasnt turned off shitting all over Scott's Patriot Way bullshit segment on NFN during draft coverage. And the story about Mark Donovan going around the Chiefs the last few months apologizing to everyone he can about how the structure was under Fat Scott.

On a national level he is hated to the point where they want him ignored. In KC he had control and his own little bubble of friends he could keep giving million dollar jobs to even though they ****ing sucked at it.

This is also the reason he could never get a named coach or coordinator to sniff an interview in his four year run. I think even Jack Del Rio snubbed him, that is sad

BigMeatballDave 06-19-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9758614)
Send Dave. Maybe they'll eat his dumb ass.

Dreaming about me again, I see...


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