Donovan McNabb Says Stafford Hasn't Earned His Contract
 

Looks like McNabb is butthurt over Matt Stafford's contract.

Shut up McNabb you haven't earned your microphone.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-his-contract/


"For the second time this offseason, former NFL quarterback Donovan McNabb has weighed in on a current NFL quarterback’s contract. And for the second time, McNabb has expressed his disapproval.

In March, McNabb said Tony Romo isn’t worth the money the Cowboys have agreed to pay him. Now McNabb has weighed in on Matthew Stafford’s new contract with the Lions, and once again McNabb believes the team is overpaying."

lol. McNabb.

what an idiot.

Corrected

Rush Limbaugh has had better opinions on quarterbacks

I don't really have feelings either way about it. Yeah he throws for a bunch of yards, but he only averages 20 touchdowns a season. That's average. He only got the contract extension now because it's really the only thing the Lions could do given their current cap situation.

This.

shit. I'm slippin'.

He's right about Romo.

His yards come from throwing the ball a ridiculous amount of times.

When you look at his YPA its pretty meh compared to the elite, he ranked #21 in YPA last season and #13 in his breakout 2011 season. Top that off with the amount of turnovers he creates and his injury history and I have to agree with McNabb.

side note. Romo has the shittiest looking throwing motion in the history of the game.


carry on.

I'd take Romo over Stafford though.

I agree that he hasn't.

Thus far, his talent and draft position have far outweighed his production on the field. The guy seriously has one of the best arms I've ever seen but literally THE WORST footwork and entirely too much trust in himself. If he fixes his footwork and stops trying to throw into tight windows 40 yards away off his back foot, he'll be a top 5 QB.

But I applaud the Lions for making this move. He has the talent to be one of the best in the league and I'm glad they recognize that. You just can't let a guy with that much potential walk away.

I wouldn't.

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Completely agree. If anybody knows a bad contract when he sees it it's Donovan McNabb.

Stafford is a good QB with a shitty coaching staff. Especially when every game, your offense has to bail out Gunther Cunningham.

I hate the Jim Schwartz way. They're more worried about cheap shotting the other team than playing fundamental football.

If Stafford had Romo's weapons, he would have a lot better numbers. the fact that the only guy he has had in his entire career is Calvin, and his oline has been Chicago Bears bad, they had to lock him up, because truthfully, if he could get out of Detroit, he probably WOULD.

He has Calvin, no running game, and no oline. WHAT A DELUXE PLACE TO PLAY.....

id take Stafford over alex smith. think about that.

What are you smoking?

You should take another look at Phillip Rivers.

McNabb isn't wrong, but what was Detroit gonna do? Let him walk? Almost any team would have paid him.
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well McNabb is wrong. Hes dissing on all these qbs because he is out of the league, and no one wanted him. He was a product of Andy Reid, and it showed in both Minny, and Washington.

Tony Romo: 277 yards per start| 1.9 TDs per start| 0.98 INTs per start| 64% completion| 95.6 passer rating.

Stafford: 291 yards per start| 1.8 TDs per start| 1.23 INTs per start| 60% completion| 83 passer rating.


What are YOU smoking?

Bernie Kosar says, "what?"

So Stafford earned his contract? 4900 yards on 700+ pass attempts. 20TDs and 17 INTs last year earned that contract?

And that last part is stupid. He was a top 5 pick for a reason. He slowed down in Washington and Minny because of age. Funny thing is, he had more yards in Washington than Alex Smith has had any year of his career.

Yeah (and I quote) "imagine if Stafford had Romo's weapons". Stupid Calvin Johnson can't catch jack.

Romo is 8 years older. There is NO WAY I'd take him over Stafford.

McNabb is a jealous clown.

I'd say the 41 TDs and 5000 yards in 2011 helped a bit.

Good players be damned, we're going to get young players then?

So...it's okay he regressed? That's a funny way of earning a contract. Guess if J. Houston gets 6 sacks this year he'll really earn a big contract extension.

You're high if you don't think Stafford is any good.

8 yrs is a long time in this league. It's a career.

McNabb has become such a hater...

I'm simply talking about this year who's the better QB. Not which QB I'd start a team with.

Stafford has immense physical tools and has had some real hot flashes, in this QB-centric era thats enough for most teams to rest their hopes on.

Cry into your piles of cash McNabb, that contract is just a sign of the times... i'd take Stafford with Reid in a ****ing heartbeat, jimping all over the living room.

He's alright. He's had two pretty good years but makes alot of mistakes and has Calvin F'n Johnson to throw to. Honestly, I've never been as impressed by Stafford as others. Always seemed like a choker to me.

But I don't love Romo either. But I won't take a lesser player over a better player just because they are younger. The promise of youth, does not a better player make.

All I know is a couple years ago when the Lions played the Saints in the playoffs they gave the Saints all they could handle.

Stafford's better than his team. He plays for the freaking LIONS.

He does seem to be injured a lot though.


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McNabb shut the **** up you dumbass

It's too late to worry about becoming Daunte Culpepper, Donvan. Wipe the steam from your own puke off the mirror. Nobody cares.

Yeah because you're soooo much better Donovan.

Between the rookie and this contract he has now gotten around $84MM in guaranteed $$ and is 5 games over .500.

Yea McNabb has a point.

Not really.

What should the Lions do? Cut him loose and trade for Alex ****ing Smith?

I was lurking and saw people calling out members for being skeptical over the extension and calling Stafford a bit overrated because we have Alex Smith and we have no room to "judge." What? A QB can be overrated even if the Chiefs have a shitty QB. I didn't get that thread.

You as always are missing the point.

Just because Detroit doesn't have another option doesn't mean Stafford has EARNED a big contract.

That's not the same thing its called being in the right place at the right time.

Use your brain.

You are smarter than 98% of CP.

What should the Lions do, then? You know, since Stafford hasn't earned this big contract.

What is their other option?

Might that be because they see a real potential stallion in whats mostly a stable full of geldings.

His potential is what they're banking on, his production with an overall very average bunch is what they based their faith on... you wouldnt pay top money for his talents in a league full of aging greats and a bunch of who knows?

Give him a ravens-like team and he probably beats Flacco in most statistical categories.

Personally, I think Stafford has all the talent in the world but his mechanics are shit, his accuracy is inconsistent at best, he relies far too much on Calvin Johnson, and his decision making leaves a lot to be desired for. He's basically a Jay Cutler. Good, but probably not good enough (unless you give him a top tier defense and innovative coaching staff).

Based on the football experts in this thread, the Lions need to move away from Matt Stafford.

Perhaps trade him and roll the dice in the draft.

Is this what I'm hearing?

By your logic this off-season Detroit should have just let Stafford go and drafted a Qb in the 1st round, any QB.

Is the conversation whether Detroit had a better option or whether Stafford EARNED a big guaranteed contract?

You are such a ****ing idiot.

Goddamn you are dumb.

I am not surprised you dont understand the difference between "earned something" and being in the right place at the right time.

No. I never said this. You are wrong.

That's a murky term.

You either pay him or move away from him.

Detroit paid him. Could they have paid him less? Doubt it.

It's really that simple. This is a pretty dumb conversation. But it's to be expected from this place, where real QBs are constantly pilloried.

No.

He's just not elite. And according to what I read on this site, you can't win a Super Bowl without elite QB play. Stafford has flashed, but last year was absolute regression.

$84MM worth of potential. :hmmm:

Look Detroit did what they had to do, McNabb has a point and to act like he doesn't is ridiculous.

He didn't say Stafford was worthless loser. He just said basically wow that seem excessive.

You do realize idiots like you on CP applaud every move made by every team with a marginal QB?

It's excessive, but that's the market for a young, strong armed QB with that sort of potential. Any team in the same situation would have paid that.

If you have a QB who can make all the throws, you keep him. Period.

The fact this fanbase hasn't figured that out after all this time is disturbing.

If Matt Stafford hit free agency and we gave him this contract some of you would be complaining.

Unbelievable.

If you have a QB who is in his prime, has the potential, and has proven to capableble of throwing for 5000 yards what he has earned should be a record setting contract in any year that he puts pen to paper..
Its not what you've earned. Its what youre worth.

Correct so McNabb wasn't out of line.

Personally I think Detroit, Baltimore, and Dallas have all now ****ed up and I am fine with it.

Jeff George approves this post.

LMAO

And they will all win more games during the Alex Smith era than the Chiefs.

Betcha.

What should thy have done that would have improved their teams above where they are at currently? What would you have done? Great young QBs don't exactly grow on trees......

Dude your shtick is old. Just find another team to follow. You are just another crybaby bitch.

You want to "bet" on whether KC wins more games than any of those 3 teams with Smith as QB you are on. You wont owe up anyway when yo lose.

It's not really a difficult statement to stand behind.

Alex Smith has had 1.5 winning seasons in his entire career.

Let me get this straight, you propose that any QB that has had marginal success (Romo and Stafford) should get a block buster deal when the time comes because Oh shit what else are they going to do?

BTW did you not follow this offseason and draft? CP fully believes any young QB is a talented QB and could have been had in rounds 1 -4 this year and we ****ed up so why not Dallas, Baltimore or Detroit?

This thread is hilarious, its the exact opposite of the predraft threads.

Stafford?

Keep in mind his injury plagued seasons (oh no Alex Smith is Injury prone)

What McNabb doesn't get here is that, like all free agents, you shouldn't or don't pay for what they've done but what they can do in the future.

Pay for what they can bring not what they've done

Is that not why we traded for Alex Smith?

Obviously it's a little different situation as far as age skill level etc, but pretty much

Stafford has put up big numbers throwing the ball 675 and over 700 times a season.

He threw the ball over 700x last season with < 60% completion % and they won 4 games.

Give him big $$$$$ he is a stud.

I would have traded our first overall pick for Stafford gladly for Stafford. Hell, I'd have thrown in the draft picks we spent on Alex Smith.

Why? What has he done to warrant that?

Alex Smith has shown that he can bring about 130 yards a game.

Matt Stafford has shown 5,000 and 40.

He has shown that he is capable of being a superstar. He has that in him. He has something that Alex Smith simply does not have in him.

So you wouldn't have paid him?


I gotta say, your preachy holier than thou shit has gotten pretty old and stale around here. You get upset about people only bitching and moaning about the chiefs when that's all you do about other posters. You rarely talk about football, you just piss and moan that everyone else pisses and moans.

Move on

Unfortunately Marcellus, you are arguing with some guys who cant use the logic and understanding needed to understand why Alex Smith is the qb of the Chiefs.

So, to try to explain it to them, is just going to leave you with a headache.

17-28 career and more injury prone than Smith?

Throws for a ton of yards when throwing it 45 times a game and losing makes you a star?

Stafford is a prime example of CP lust for another QB no matter who it is.

This thread is hilarious.

I wonder how many qbs could have great success in a dome throwing to Calvin Johnson.

And here is my point. This is not about Alex Smith. But, we have seen this before. Dante Culpepper. He was a beast when he had Randy Moss, and Cris Carter. Take those two away, and he was nothing.

I don't disagree, I would have too. However, I can at least acknowledge Stafford has much more Cutler in him than say a guy like Andrew Luck. Unless he works on his mechanics he'll never be in the elite tier of NFL QBs.

Of course that's why we traded for Alex smith, for what he can bring, not what he's done to this point.


But stafford has shown that he's capable of being an upper echelon talent so you lock him up long term. As we know being chief fans these guys don't just fall out of trees. Once they finally (if ever) get good coaching in Detroit, they've got a their qb to go with a really good core

I believe whole heartedly that if the Lions committed to finding a steady run game, and to getting a decent oline, that Stafford could be a top 10 qb. he has all of the potential, and skills.

That's why they just handed him 53 mil. POTENTIAL.