Brandon Flowers restructures to help KC
 

I think we were a 1 million over the cap, had to be below by today

Good man!

Wow, and he's a man who genuinely deserves his contract. Thanks, Flowers!

Far cry from the past several seasons when KC had $ MILLIONS of cap space left even during the season.

So, why are they clearing cap space? To sign a FA? I can't imagine who it would be. Or, to give Albert a long term contract?

Nice.

oh what a nice guy

but if it was me id give them the finger

WUT?

Same $$, chief.

yeah lol. Hes such a nice guy.

"Hey Brandon, we are over on the cap. How about we reduce your cap number, and uh, just give you this nice 3 mil up front?"

Turning base salary into a roster bonus isn't taking a pay cut. In fact, it makes him more expensive to cut.

:LOL:

It's like people refuse to read

lol, I don't think they are going to be cutting Brandon Flowers any time soon. Probably the reason they gave it to him.

On the other hand. Extending Albert probably could of saved them more money.

But, since they failed on that and cant until next offseason, this was prolly the next best thing. Doesn't bode well for Hali in the long run though

Though it seems like a nice reward for Flowers, I didn't know this kind of move was legal. Interesting.

It basically means that for the next 4 years of his contract, he'll cost an extra ~$3M to cut in year 1, ~$2M in year 2, ~$1M in year 3. Of course I'm not saying he'll be cut. I'm just saying it's not like he's taking a paycut. He's still going to get the money, but the Chiefs are spreading the cap hit over 3-4 years.

sure it is. Its the same thing the Patriots did with Tom Brady this offseason. When he "signed his extension."

Teams move money like this all the time.

The 49ers did it with Justin smith, and Patrick willis too.

I wonder if it is subject to more tax

Or is his tax bracket so high that he always pays the max?

I like it.

Yeah. It makes sense though. the cap is supposed to rise significantly starting next year, or the year after, I cant remember which.

I sadly don't have that problem. But I do know that guaranteed money is always better than non guaranteed money lol

Pretty standard procedure when a guy is due a huge base salary. Happened to treat green and Tyson Jackson. It helps both sides. Flowers knows the team is less likely to cut be I'm which is huge if he starts to decline or gets injured, and the Chiefs save cap space.

No real indication of a big move coming. Teams like to have a little cap cushion in case of an injury situation, and the money rolls over to next season's cap regardless. I don't believe they can negotiate with Albert, as he signed his contract already this season. It's highly doubtful that Albert will be in KC next season, and I imagine the Chiefs didn't select Fisher at 1.1 to be their RT after this year anyway.

Welcome home, Brandon Lloyd.

Nah, he was already in the 39% bracket.

FWIW, Chiefs have the highest cap in the league.
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I bet teams are waiting to sign him after week 1 (preventing the whole contract from being guaranteed).

What would we do with Lloyd, exactly?

Honestly, I'd rather have Avery as my 2.

74 catches for 911 yds last yr. I'm sure they can find somewhere for him.

He'll earn the same exact amount over the course of sixteen weeks. His taxation amount will depend on whether or not he's asked the club to withhold taxes.

Yeah, I don't think so. Besides the fact he's 31 years old, he's missed all of OTA'S and training camp. It would take him half a season to get up to speed.

Yeah. Receivers never get signed this late. Great point. :rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure rape tax is only for middle class folks

Flowers didn't give up anything ... in fact he probably benefited from it because he gets more of his yearly salary immediately instead of having to wait.

maybe ...


something is wrong with Lloyd

players that talented don't have trouble keeping a job unless they are assholes

Wow, actually, Lloyd is 32.

And it not a matter of players being signed this late, it's the fact that the Chiefs have receivers in place that know the system.

Furthermore, what upgrade does Lloyd provide? He's not an upgrade to Bowe, he's likely even with Avery, who's four years younger.

Outside of catastrophic injury, I just don't see him as an option.

making room for that ACE GUNNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep. The money is the same in a restructure, its just dispursed differently. If he took a pay cut as part of it, then he would have given up something.

Nice dude.

B FLOW

THE MAN

Chiefs have the highest salary number in the league, according to that article.

Damn you, Clark! You don't care!

Restructure Tamba now, then get on the phone with big Dic Seymour and have him come rush the passer in a one year deal.

How can we have the highest salary number in the league with so little elite talent?

I just looked a couple of days ago to see if Seymour was still out there. Geez, he would be a great addition.

And I like Brandon Flowers. Brandon Flowers is cool.

Wonder what it would take to get Seymour?

Don't shoot me but, I wonder if they are going pay Alex? It's probably not enough.

Approximately $35 million in three players: Berry ($10), Hali ($15) and Albert ($9.8).

Why? He'll be 34 in a month and appeared in only eight games last year.

Wouldn't give him more than a one year deal anyway, but he'd be an immediate upgrade over any dl we have.

He only played in eight games last year. He's a shell of his former self and is most certainly not an upgrade over DeVito or Jackson, especially on first and second down.

Why would they. Right now they have 2 years to figure out if he can take us to the promised land or back to the depths of hell. If he sucks balls, they can cut ties with him after next year with no cap hit.

He would pretty much be a situational pass rusher but its not like teams are always running it on 1 or 2 down these days.

But he's gonna cost too much anyway.

I wonder if they're looking at another corner or something

It appears that comprehension in the early morning is not my strong suit.

yeah, i admit it

i didnt read before posting

Wonder what it would take to get Reggie White

too old

A shovel? :shrug:

You're probably right. I keep thinking about what happened in the worst case scenarios with Cassel and Flacco.

Wonder if it's for Albert? Or, maybe we're looking at Dunbar?

I'd rather not do anything to cause cutting/trading Hali to be more difficult. I hope I'm wrong but he may see a steep decline here soon and I wouldn't want to be handcuffed to him because we acted prematurely..

He got three sacks in those eight games, which is more than our entire defensive line has recorded in the past eight years combined.*



* - The last half of this sentence is probably not true, but it makes my point effectively.

nice and cheap

clark can afford that

If the Chiefs had wanted a situational pass rusher from their 3-4 alignment, they should have signed John Abraham.

The fact that Abraham didn't sign until late July means they're happy to move forward with their current situation.

It's the 3 bucks an hour to the illegal Mexican that may be the cog in the wheel

Flacco has a ring by making plays when it counted. Casshole shits his pants when the waterboy hands him a drink. Not really the same thing....

I think you misunderstood. They were the worst case scenarios. Baltimore waited to long and had to pay too much. KC gave Cassel a contract before they had to.

Oh, gotcha :thumb:

:thumb: Yep I hope he has a great year!

Abraham is a de, dunno if he could rush from the 3 or 5 tech., but your prolly right

The only current player whose jersey I own.

****'n love this guy.

I loved the signing. He was a badass at VT. Aggressive and smart.

Hali
Houston
Flowers
Albert
Charles
Bowe*
Berry
Albert
Derrick Johnson

I'd put every one of those guys in the top five at their position in the AFC.

*debatable

What a swell fellow.

top 5 in the weak AFC, which mean like top 15 in the NFL

i'm not sure that counts as elite

Hali,Charles and DJ are probably the only elite guys we have

Houston might end up being elite ... hoping our defense will be less passive this year and some of these guys will make more impact.

I wonder if they couldn't swap Houston and Hali when Tamba starts to wear down? Traditionally, it seems like in most 3-4 defenses the LOLB can cover better but not always. Some of them just have two pass rushers who aren't good at all in coverage.

Houston doesn't seem to do much in coverage. They seem to have similar coverage skills. Would it be smart to eventually have Hali on the left side all the time going against the RT instead of the left?

Is Houston good enough to play on the right side and go against the LT?

It's certainly debatable but I think Houston is better than Hali right now. He's better against the run and pass. Even if Hali edges him out in pass rush, I'll take the more complete defender every time.

You don't think Flowers is elite? Really?
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Houston is better than Hali. And that's saying something.

I agree man. Would we be better if we flipped them? Could Houston play on the right side as well as he plays on the left? I know they occasionally flip sides now but, I am talking permanently in the base defense.

Berry, Bowe, and Flowers would start for every team in the league. I call that elite.