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QBR is complete and utter crap
Look at the stat line. How in hell can Andy Dalton beat any of these 3 guys in rating? He is smoked in passer rating but dominates QBR. It looks like the completion % is way too heavily weighted. That is all I can figure. I don't give a damn if he completed 80% to Peyton's 65%, there is no way in hell a guy with 7 TDs and 0 INTs should be trumped by a guy with 2 TDs and 2 INTs, especially with 180 less yards.
I realize QBR is complicated and that a game losing INT is weighted far differently than an INT in the first minute of a 50 point blowout. I realize a TD in garbage time is not rated the same a game-winning walk-off TD. That is the good news. But this is just WRONG. QBR is just pure and utter crap if it can't handle this kind of immense disparity. There is no way in any sane world that 2 TD/2 INT/282 yards beats out 7 TD/0 INT/462 yards. It just isn't possible. QBR 91.8 - Dalton 89.8 - Kaepernick 83.6 - Peyton 70.0 - Rodgers Passer Rating 141.1 - Peyton 129.4 - Kaepernick 102.6 - Rodgers 97.2 - Dalton Stat Line Peyton - 27/42 for 462 yards, 64%, 7 TDs, 0 INT, 3 sacks Kaeper - 27/39 for 412 yards, 69%, 3 TDs, 0 INT, 2 sacks Rodgrs - 21/37 for 333 yards, 57%, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 2 sacks Dalton - 26/33 for 282 yards, 79%, 2 TDs, 2 INT, 1 sacks |
Yep, it's stupid.
The PFF QB rating is a lot better. |
Nobody cares about the 49ers.
Go **** Colin Kaepernick in the ass and kill him with your AIDS. Then gargle some antifreeze |
Manning only got a QBR of 83.6? WTF?
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Smith fans coming here is one thing but the Kap lovers who follow them around are worse if that's possible. |
The 49er asshole problem has gotten out of hand. Not even Chiefs Planet's abusive nature can chase them away. There's too many of them.
The mods need to have a goddamn Holocaust for 49er fans. Don't care if they're polite and good-natured. There's just too goddamned many of them posting 49er garbage nonstop. |
Yeah, pretty ridiculous.
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Time for us to give them their own site...49ersPlanet.com? :)
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It took you this long to determine that? Anything that weighs "clutch factor" is absolute bullshit.
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It is time for the creation of the CP transporter!!!! Beam it up Scotty!!!
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Hell yeah this. Get them San bundle of stickss out of here. |
Again, this is why I like PFF.
They take into account things like difficulty of a pass. An 18-yard screen pass counts for the same as an 18-yard throw into a tight window in QBR and classic QB rating system. In the PFF rating system...they are not the same. |
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A forum for the 49ers fans, Jets fans, MFLers, FFLers and the likes would be a more practical solution than another website. Although what I've just described would likely empty the front page of the lounge these days. Looking back, IMO, chiefs4me wasn't all that bad. Dinny |
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I've tried not to say anything and just use ignore because I like the fact that we get interpretations from other team fans here and the rivalry is fun. This is just too much though. Any thread about Smith is half empty because of dbags like Maverick and Jakelmall being ignored. Kapernick (the poster) actually seems like a pretty good poster, but the rest are just Alex Smith trolls. |
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I'm not buying in that they're 'free standing' posters. It's a crock of horse dung! |
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,I caught that,,,, |
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Or maybe some of you can just stop being such whiny puss-bags and quietly skim past the posters you don't wish to read from?
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Wasn't QBR invented by the 4 letter network? Therefore, it is by definition worthless. |
It's like we are being invaded and taken over by barbarian hordes.
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Total anarchy
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Sorry. It's all or nothing, I'm afraid. |
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We have Donco fans, Raider fans, Jag fans (if that's even possible), Pats fans, Seahawk fans, etc. that have been long time contributing members to this board. One had to expect that with the signing of Alex Smith that you were going to get a few 49er fans and subsequent trolls participating on this board. Imagine if this was active when the Chiefs signed Joe Montana...the inundation of Friscoites would have been absolutely unbearable. They'll die off for the majority eventually. I think that C.E.'s boyfriend Maverick is here to stay though. They are nearly inseparable at this point. |
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Overall, I'd say my point is.. people need to get thicker skin, use the ignore feature more, or just avoid threads where they can expect the haters/Kaep-tards. I somehow like it here, and will not be dissuaded from posting here, unless the mods deem it to be so. I don't care about reputation.. can't control or concern myself much if not a single person likes me on this forum. (prefer they do, but oh well, no big deal if they don't) I like the Chiefs team.. not just starting QB... the Chiefs team. So I am happy to read and/or talk Chiefs football throughout the season. Far as I can tell, there are only about 7 or 8 SF fans here. Half of which like KC and Smith.. the other half that hate one or both. It shouldn't be difficult for others to figure out which are worth reading... and if the answer is none? Oh well, to that. I have been on forums for several years now, and one thing remains the same... there is always a handful or more of posters that I wish would just DIAF. |
so, seven niner fans walk into a chiefs bar...
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Alex Smith 4ever Alex2125 AlexSmithFan/Maverick Mac-NinersChiefs AlexSmith#1 AlexSmithDynasty AlexSmithpro AliceSmith ViperVisor 49erguy49 49erscentral NinerDoug Ninerfan ninerfan0724 ninerman jerryriceforever80 Jakemall 9er guy 9erAkbar 9erlifer 9erman 9ernation94 What in the ****? |
A few games every week QBR fails and a few it succeeds.
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...ate-to-winning QBR is tuned too extreme to 3rd downs and close games. Dalton did well in that and gives credit for PI on a pass for a first down. And Dalton's 2 INTs were not 3rd or 4th down passes. It makes sense to not count those the same as other INTs. 1 was on a 2nd and 7 1 was on a 1st and 10 Those are friendly to offense situations that Dalton gave away. QBR is also tuned for the long pass because it doesn't like QBs getting YAC. Dalton is great because AJ Green runs 3 yards past the defense or just jumps up and grabs a ball 40 yards down-field? |
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i just find it hilarious how bitter chief fans are lol. Just so venomous with the hate. :rofl:
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Alex Smith is firmly entrenched at #18 on the PFF QB rating system this week.
Right where he belongs. |
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QBR and PFF are completely separate.
PFF actually takes into account things like degree of difficulty of a throw. If QB throws a shitty pass and it goes for 50 yards, he doesn't get much credit for it. |
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Kaepernick still had a very high pass rating. He lost points because his scrambling didn't work out so well. |
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I'm sure Jake made a few nice throws.
You need to stop actin' a fool. Over Jake will fall and Kaepernick will rise. |
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Those systems take into account numbers and nothing else. |
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Let me ask you (taking from your previous example): which is more valuable to a team, a screen pass that goes for 18 yards, or an 18 yard pass with no YAC? |
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However, when determining credit for a play, and what a QB should be praised for, an 18-yard strike into a tight window is far more praiseworthy. |
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Do Palmer, Schaub, Stafford and Cutler deserve more praise for their passing performances than Peyton? |
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It's just one ****ing game. It is possible for Carson Palmer to play slightly better than Peyton Manning in one week out of their entire careers. |
Don't know if anyone cares but Mike Florio is joined by PFT managing editor Michael David Smith to pick Chiefs to win.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ing-on-monday/ |
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I'm not debating that it's possible for any of those guys to outplay Peyton one week. I just don't see it happening the week that Peyton happens to throw 7 TDs and 0 INTs. |
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One of those seven TD passes was a freaking bubble screen that DT took to the house. That's weighted a lot lower than a more difficult throw for the QB in PFF metrics. If you want the most accurate QB rating system, it IS PFF. It's not perfect, but it's the best we've got. It does awesome things, like tell us Matt Cassel actually sucked in 2010. |
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Why does difficulty matter? If a QB plays a game with one shoe, it would be a lot more difficult than playing with two. He'd probably get a higher PFF rating. |
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