Based on the outcome of this game, how real are these Chiefs?
 

Assume the following scenarios:

1. The Chiefs go into Philly and land a solid knock out victory over the Eagles.

2. The Chiefs play less-bad than the Eagles and eke out an ugly win.

3. The Chiefs play hard but can't keep up and lose.

4. The Chiefs are totally decimated by the Eagles.

In any of these four scenarios, what would your assessment be of how good this Chiefs team is?

2 or 4..hoping for 2.

KC is only as good as how far their QB can take them.

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A team that is poised to compete for the long haul and just came from a horrible 2-14 season should be in 2-3. I don't expect this team to blow the Eagles out of the park. I don't think it's possible.

1 means the Eagles just pooped the bed.

4 means we've got a long way to go.

I think there will be many #2's this year. And that is just fine.

How is blowing the Eagles out not possible? Their D is awful. I don't think it will happen, but it's very possible.

1. The Chiefs go into Philly and land a solid knock out victory over the Eagles. - Super impressed, but unlikely to happen. If it does then they're real

2. The Chiefs play less-bad than the Eagles and eke out an ugly win. - Plausible. They'd be on the right track. Have some work to do, but definitely headed in the right direction.

3. The Chiefs play hard but can't keep up and lose. - Plausible. They'd be on the right track. Have some work to do, but definitely headed in the right direction.


4. The Chiefs are totally decimated by the Eagles. - This is the only one I'd be completely disappointed with. It would definitely portray them as pretenders. We'll see, though.

Headed in to Philly on a super short week against an offense that has put up 30+ in both of the first two weeks is going to be a tough test for this team. I'm looking forward to seeing how they respond. Feels good to be excited again though.

Sure it’s possible.
I also think the Chiefs D has enough firepower to really lay the hurt on Vick and when he gets knocked around he panics and throws stupid interceptions.
I’m just not counting on it.

Is Vick Playing...I've been hearing he may not.

Hopefully it's at least as far as he took the 49ers in 2011 :thumb:

I think they're offense is what keeps a blowout from happening. We have a solid defense, but that offense is going to put up points. It's just something that is going to happen.

Link?

Just my thoughts.

I heard it on 810, looks like it might have been KK trumping up some talk radio BS because the injury report doesn't list him at all. LOLz sorry about that.

Looks like 9-7 or better is realistic.

We're still growing. Bright future.

We're still growing. Bright future.

Not good. At least this is vs. the NFC and doesn't figure in the tie breakers.

I would be disappoint.

1) Ahead of schedule. Future looks bright.
2) Still growing. I'm hopeful.
3) Still growing. I'm hopeful.
4) Not as good as we looked. Need to work some things out. Still hopeful.

What is his injury? Just went and checked and found nothing about him being out, or even questionable.

Ya sorry bout that, was on 810 couple days ago. Looks like total BS.

Ah, Kietzman. Makes sense now.

Eh, it’s happened to me. That’s why I know not to put any faith in what Kietzman says.

Ya had my hopes up it would be a lot easier tonight, He says BS stuff about KU hoops all the time so i'm not shocked.

The thing that has me 'very superstitious' is that in, like, forever, the ONLY coach who beat his former team the first time he faced them with his new team was way back when Ditka beat the Bears with his Saints.

If #1, then we iz legit!

If # 2, then I'm as happy as a puppy with 2 peaners

If #3, it's about what I expected

If #4, I'd be
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DV didn't beat the Lambs?...

Coaches that coached former team for 10+ years, sorry.

If we win, we're a legit playoff team and will challenge Denver for the division.

Going to be a tough game. Eggo is better than we thought as well. Would be a good win.

Rivers is playing better than we thought.

Eggo as a whole is who we thought they were...

We win this game and we're for real. Much of the country will be watching.

I remember back in June (maybe July) when KK was saying the Royals had to Win/Sweep a series or the season would be over. We didn't win the series.

:doh!:

Still probably too early to make a determination. The Bills a few years back and the Bears last year come to mind (although teh Bares had their QB injured).

What ever happens tonight won't change the fact that this team is a work in progress. If we win and progress continues then we should end up with a pretty good team before the years up.

1. We have huge dicks

2. Still pretty damn good... absolutely a playoff contender

3. Ehh... lot of football left to be played. We'll be fine.

4. WE'RE DOOMED

If the Chiefs win this prime time road game, no matter how they do it, they have made tremendous progress and are legitmate. That success is due to Andy Reid and his staff's leadership, without question.

If they get blown out, well that is on them as well, but I don't think that will happen to this team, the D is just so much better than that.

So far, the 2013 Chiefs are exactly what Clark was hoping for since he took over the team. The fans are solidly behind the team and they are a team to be proud of. Arrowhead is rocking and life is good.

If we win at Philly, I will believe in this team. Winning at JAX and having Dallas give us a game with ineptness are not convincing. Road game. National audience. We shall see.

Bolded.

Keep in mind, though that those assessments are of the current situation. In order to stay legit, we have improve as a team at a rate of gain equal to or greater than the other legit teams.

I saw someone mention something on an Eagles board about Vick dealing with a nagging groin injury. Huge grain of salt though.

blah,blah,blah,blah ... cheap answer

QB is the most important position on any NFL team but our offense line is the area where we are sucking.

people around here are afraid to say it, but it's true.


Alex Smith has missed several throw while on the move, which is a problem
WR's need to win more frequently and consistently
Oline needs to stop being stank ass

I want to see the Offense improve in these areas against the eagles. If it does then i think our defense will be fine.

Totally agree. Nice post.

THIS

Name those throws? (I can think of maybe 2)

This game given the travel and short week. means absolutely NOTHING.

Although, if they lose, the haters and malcontents wont care. Just Alex sucks. A real qb could of won.

Even though Tom Brady, one of the 5 best qbs of all time, needed a choke job of monumental proportions from a rookie qb,, AT HOME to win last week.

Alex needs to overcome all of that.

since plays don't have names it's pretty hard to do that

a couple of roll out passes were off the mark

a couple of scramble dump-off passes were off the mark

Its true. he did miss some pretty easy passes vs the Cowboys.

can remember 2 rollouts missing... one was like a 10-15 yard comeback to a WR at the sideline.. the other was to Fasano on an out (I think)...

can't recall any scramble dump-offs missed... one to the RB Gray on 3rd and long was 1 handed and really, the RB should easily have adjusted better to it.. :hmmm:

he did ... just needs to go back to work and practice throwing on the run to get the footwork back down. Not a huge deal but an area that needs to improve.

Oline stop giving up the easy blitz and Smith starts hitting those passes on the move, defenses won't be so anxious to blitz.

Make them pay a few times and they will start dropping back into zones.

Soul for Real.

He nearly threw a pick six that was just an awful decision, on that roll out you are referring to, he ground balled it. It was horrible.

I mean in all honesty, its nothing that doesn't happen to every qb in every game. But, its always something to work to get better on. the better the passing game gets, the quicker the running game will come together.

Even good teams lose. Hell the undefeated Packers lost to Crennel Chiefs in what ushered in the era of supreme patheticism.

Only way I'll be disappointed if we get smacked around. Good teams play consistently good, especially on the road.

I don't think tonight's outcome will have much of an impact on how legit they are. It's so early in the season.

My Chiefs are like a storybook story.

But they're as real as the feelings I feel.

You want to know how good a team is wait until January.

This and short week.

I'm trying not to put much stock in this game just because of the short week and dynamics of the game. The guys are going play hard for Andy on his homecoming but the players he coached for the Eagles are going do the same. I'm anticipating a hard hitting game with lots of flags for stupid bonehead things.

This is my exact line of thinking as well
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I would at first glance be inclined to think that the advantage goes to Reid due to his knowledge of player personnel. That being said, it is a short week, they are playing at a hostile stadium with some hate for the Reid.

I just hope nobody gets ****ing broken.

I see #3. I think we're better than it appears. I just think the short week is a huge disadvantage for a team just beginning to feel its way. I think the changes have been tougher for the Chiefs because they had to be so comprehensive. I don't think this new offense will last long term, but it doesn't have to. If they can steal a few wins it will get them in the playoffs. I just don't think we're ready to tackle something like this on a short week. I would see the game very differently later in the season.

One other thing I noticed is that the current roster is noticeably older than before. Not saying that's a bad thing, only that I believe Dorsey will continue to make changes regularly for many years to come. It's as if he knows you have to be young, but not too young. When you reflect you realize that Marty and Carl saw this similarly. You go to far in either direction it blows up. So I'm now seeing this last draft in less confident ways. The picks I want to see more of are Catapano and Kush. I'm done with Hudson and about to give up on Asamoah too.

as is every NFL team.

Holmgren. And since him there have only been two cases of facing the head coaches former team, and both those lost. 1 out of 3 is just a roll of the dice.

We're ****ed.

I don't think #4 is realistic, only because of our D. That is unless the offense can't get anything going. I see the Philly D somewhere between Dallas and Jax and we had a least one sharp drive against both.
Option #1 might be a little far-fetched right now.
While I'd like to see #2, I'll be OK with #3. Both would show the team is headed in the right direction.

hence the statement