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Direckshun 10-05-2013 03:36 PM

Least surprising rumor you'll hear today.
 
Our games against Oakland are going to be a bit tougher, pretty soon.

http://www.walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

Raiders Moving Toward Signing Josh Freeman
Published Oct. 5, 2013
By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

Sources confirm that the Oakland Raiders are strongly considering signing free agent quarterback Josh Freeman.

Sources with the team believe that general manager Reggie McKenzie will sign Freeman assuming everything checks out OK after the team does their due diligence into Freeman's exit from Tampa Bay. The Raiders have been an obvious landing spot for Freeman as current Raiders' offensive coordinator Greg Olson was Freeman's offensive coordinator in Tampa Bay for the troubled quarterback's first three years in the NFL.

Freeman's best seasons in the NFL came under Olson's direction. In 2010, he completed 61 percent of his passes for 3,451 yards with 25 touchdowns and six interceptions. He also ran for 364 yards that season, as Freeman led Tampa Bay to a 10-6 record, its only winning season since firing Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen after the 2008 season. In 2011, Freeman completed 63 percent of his passes for 3,592 yards with 16 touchdowns and 22 interceptions.

After Olson left, Freeman had streaky play in 2012 with a completion percentage at 55 percent throwing for 4,065 yards with 27 touchdowns and 17 interceptions. Freeman is only 25 years old, and there is no doubt that the 6-foot-6, 240-pounder has the physical talent to be an effective starter. Olson will have to get Freeman to erase the past two seasons. Sources with Tampa Bay have told WalterFootball.com that Bucs' head coach Greg Schiano killed Freeman's confidence and didn't handle the quarterback well.

Olson and the Raiders aren't in need of a starting quarterback as Terrelle Pryor has had an impressive start to the 2013 season. However, behind Pryor, Oakland has rookie Matt McGloin and veteran Matt Flynn serving as backups. If Freeman is brought in as the team expects, he could compete as a backup while he gets reacquainted with Olson's offense.

If Freeman is signed to a 2-year contract or is brought back in 2014 to the Raiders, he could serve as starting competition for Pryor if the first-year starter doesn't lock down the starting spot this season. Having Freeman and Pryor would give Oakland two young starting options that they could potentially rebuild their team around. Having those quarterback options would also give McKenzie more flexibility in the 2014 NFL Draft.

When the Buccaneers drafted Freeman with the 17th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, Olson was the quarterbacks coach in Tampa Bay. The Bucs then fired offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski and promoted Olson to offensive coordinator just prior to Freeman's rookie campaign. After the 2011 season, the Bucs changed coaching staffs with Schiano being named the head coach and Mike Sullivan coming in as the offensive coordinator.

During Freeman's rookie contract, he has had three different offensive coordinators along with a lot of changes at his position coach. The Buccaneers have had Alex Van Pelt (2010-2011), Ron Turner and John McNulty serve as the quarterbacks coach the past three years.

Since the start of the season, the Buccaneers have had an endless soap opera around Freeman and Schiano. Freeman wasn't voted a captain, missed the team photo from oversleeping, was fined by the team for missing meetings, gave an unauthorized interview to ESPN, wasn't allowed to watch the last game from his personal suite and was forced to go to an inactive player suite. Reports also came out that Freeman had voluntarily entered the league's substance abuse program after taking the wrong medication for an ADHD condition.

The Raiders are investigating the fallout with Tampa Bay, and if Oakland is comfortable with what they find, sources with the team believe they will go ahead and sign Freeman in the coming days.

Mav 10-05-2013 03:40 PM

should lead to the accelerated release of Matt Flynn, where he can go back to the Packers and be their back up. he got his cash grab, got exposed for the dumpster fire he is, and will be well paid, to hold the clip board for number 12.

chefsos 10-05-2013 03:41 PM

It actually is surprising if true. Every ****up, malcontent, or knucklehead who finds himself without a game to go to on Sundays is rumored to be headed to Oakland, with few completing the trip.

BlackHelicopters 10-05-2013 03:44 PM

Oakland will still suck.

splatbass 10-05-2013 03:44 PM

Why would that make our games tougher? What has Josh Freeman ever done that should scare us? We've already played against better QBs than him and won.

Mav 10-05-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chefsos (Post 10049094)
It actually is surprising if true. Every ****up, malcontent, or knucklehead who finds himself without a game to go to on Sundays is rumored to be headed to Oakland, with few completing the trip.

I believe the connection, is a guy named Olsen, who was with him in TB. Has vouched for him.......

hometeam 10-05-2013 03:53 PM

Still not scared.

Ghost of Maslowski 10-05-2013 03:55 PM

Goodbye flotsam, welcome to jetsam.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 10-05-2013 03:57 PM

It provides them with a good backup and/or guy to compete for starting time.

If I were Hog Farmer I would be even more pissed now.

bevischief 10-05-2013 04:12 PM

Biteme.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 10-05-2013 06:22 PM

Chiefs should defeat the Raiders regardless of whether Pryor or Freeman is playing.

Freeman has never impressed me that much as a QB and dropping him in the middle of Oakland and their unsettled QB situation is more likely to be a distraction than a help.

FlaChief58 10-05-2013 06:24 PM

Aint skeered

Prison Bitch 10-05-2013 06:32 PM

"Rebuild around Pryor and Freeman"

Lulz

J Diddy 10-05-2013 06:33 PM

I prefer your late night bullshit threads be at light night.

RealSNR 10-05-2013 06:40 PM

I'm more afraid of Pryor than I am Freeman

FlaChief58 10-05-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10049589)
I'm more afraid of Pryor than I am Freeman

This

KcMizzou 10-05-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10049589)
I'm more afraid of Pryor than I am Freeman

yep

Bowser 10-05-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 10049146)
It provides them with a good backup and/or guy to compete for starting time.

If I were Hog Farmer I would be even more pissed now.

This usually would be the point where I'd make fun of you for being a homer, but in your shoes I'd probably say the same thing.

DaneMcCloud 10-05-2013 07:23 PM

Duh.

I said this the day he was released. Greg Olsen, floundering franchise, Pryor is an unknown wildcard, etc.

Freeman will likely choose a place where he believes he has a future and compete immediately for the starting gig. That pretty much rules out every option other than the Jags and Raiders.

Nobody wants to play in Jacksonville.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-05-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 10049146)
It provides them with a good backup and/or guy to compete for starting time.

If I were Hog Farmer I would be even more pissed now.

As bad as I wanted Wilson to be their man, it's good for him in the long run as he will eventually be picked up by a real team and it's also good for the Chiefs as Oakland will continue to have trash at the QB position. Freeman is a failure and Al Davis is still looking over that team.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 10-05-2013 08:55 PM

A QB with a reported drug problem? Can't be

Eleazar 10-05-2013 09:57 PM

Hasn't this always been Oakland's problem?

They will add any piece that's available that has some raw talent, without the realities or history in consideration. They don't develop or keep players very long, generally. There's always turnover at all levels of the organization but the top. There's no stability or effort to improve over time. Never a veteran core or a commitment to forming a nucleus. They just put a bunch of athletes on the field and tell them, just win baby.

They are just one long string of attempted quick-fixes.

CoMoChief 10-05-2013 10:38 PM

So what Freeman sucks.

You're basically replacing one pile of shit with another pile of shit.

RealSNR 10-05-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 10049146)
It provides them with a good backup and/or guy to compete for starting time.

If I were Hog Farmer I would be even more pissed now.

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Sure-Oz 10-05-2013 10:55 PM

Raiders should just stick with Pryor

KcMizzou 10-05-2013 11:43 PM

Freeman never scared me when he was playing against Mizzou. Yeah, he's got the size, the arm strength, all the physical stuff... but he's not a gamer. He could be special, but he's missing that little something extra.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 10-06-2013 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10049742)
As bad as I wanted Wilson to be their man, it's good for him in the long run as he will eventually be picked up by a real team
and it's also good for the Chiefs as Oakland will continue to have trash at the QB position. Freeman is a failure and Al Davis is still looking over that team.

What difference does it make? Will you be happier to see him holding a clipboard on a "real" team? Pretty certain that Freeman (who has at least shown something in the NFL) would be brought in for depth, not to replace Pryor.

bevischief 10-06-2013 05:09 AM

If they want to win this season...

R8RFAN 10-06-2013 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 10050323)
Raiders should just stick with Pryor

They are going to but if they pick up Freeman it will only be for insurance purposes and to drive Pryor to get better and focus. A running QB can be knocked out of a game at anytime and it's good to have a quality backup instead of the shit storm we were thrown into last week with Flynn.

Now that DMC has his annual injury that will probably last 4 weeks, the Raiders won't have to focus on re signing his sorry ass...

chefsos 10-06-2013 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 10050525)
What difference does it make? Will you be happier to see him holding a clipboard on a "real" team? Pretty certain that Freeman (who has at least shown something in the NFL) would be brought in for depth, not to replace Pryor.

I can't help but think if Freeman decided to sign somewhere just to be "depth", it would be with a better team...

EDIT: Unless, of course, no one else will touch him.

Rausch 10-06-2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 10050429)
Freeman never scared me when he was playing against Mizzou. Yeah, he's got the size, the arm strength, all the physical stuff... but he's not a gamer. He could be special, but he's missing that little something extra.

He's better than anything the Jagwads have...

Eleazar 10-06-2013 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10050687)
He's better than anything the Jagwads have...

I was saying this in another thread, but they are committed to giving Gabbert the rest of the season when he's healthy to audition for the job. Of course, nobody expects that he'll prove himself but if they stay away from attempted band-aids like Freeman, they can start in the draft with a very high pick and get someone new who hasn't already washed out in the NFL

Rausch 10-06-2013 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10050713)
I was saying this in another thread, but they are committed to giving Gabbert the rest of the season when he's healthy to audition for the job. Of course, nobody expects that he'll prove himself but if they stay away from attempted band-aids like Freeman, they can start in the draft with a very high pick and get someone new who hasn't already washed out in the NFL

They can still do that.

Even with Freeman they won't finish with more than 4 wins and that's if everything bounces their way.

They can still draft a QB and Draft pick and Freeman can battle it out in camp next year...

Eleazar 10-06-2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10050719)
They can still do that.

Even with Freeman they won't finish with more than 4 wins and that's if everything bounces their way.

They can still draft a QB and Draft pick and Freeman can battle it out in camp next year...

I think if you are going to draft a QB that high, you don't want a battle. You are already pinning your hopes on him for several years anyway, may as well let him be the unquestioned "guy" and hope team chemistry congeals around him

Rausch 10-06-2013 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10050725)
I think if you are going to draft a QB that high, you don't want a battle. You are already pinning your hopes on him for several years anyway, may as well let him be the unquestioned "guy" and hope team chemistry congeals around him

Or you sit him and let him learn until you feel he's ready (meaning: you let Freeman get beat up behind that line until it gels and you think you can protect the Rookie.)

Direckshun 10-06-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10050319)
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ROFL

ROFL

ROFL

displacedinMN 10-06-2013 02:22 PM

the Raiders came and asked about my 5 10 freshman daughter.
Wants to sign her as a safety. She can jump and run

But may do a cartwheel in the process.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 10-06-2013 03:41 PM

I didn't realize Freeman was from Grandview. Oakland should be like a home away from home.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 10-06-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chefsos (Post 10050658)
I can't help but think if Freeman decided to sign somewhere just to be "depth", it would be with a better team...

EDIT: Unless, of course, no one else will touch him.

Here's my thought:

If he can be picked up for pennies on the dollar, why not. Second, if he went to say the Broncos or the Patriots, well there's not much controversy there. Barring some unusual circumstances he might never see the field. If he goes to a team rebuilding he may well start some games just to see what he can do.

tecumseh 10-06-2013 03:56 PM

Sure are alot of junk words for a "perhaps" acquisition. Anywho, Josh Freeman pffft. You know the names of doom for all Chiefs opponents; Poe,Houston,Hali,Johnson,ETC.


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