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suzzer99 11-17-2013 10:32 PM

You can't punt on the Denver 40 down by 14 to Peyton Manning with 10 min. left
 
How is this not common ****ing sense?

Reerun_KC 11-17-2013 10:33 PM

Not with a defense that cant get to the qb. Dude wasnt even touched tonight.

-King- 11-17-2013 10:39 PM

Yep. Gotta go for it there.

the Talking Can 11-17-2013 10:40 PM

you can't kick FGs from the 2 against manning....which I erroneous assumed was common ****ing knowledge


hey, but it makes sense to count on our inept offense to mount more long td drives....that's playing the odds

Prison Bitch 11-17-2013 10:40 PM

Hey he gained 20 net when it bounced in the end zone!


Andy is a gutless pussy. Not going for it at the goal line late in the 2nd quarter was a pussy move too. As if FG will win a game like this. Grow a pair buddy, you ain't playing Buffalo today

BWillie 11-17-2013 10:42 PM

Just got done ranting on twitter about the same thing

Bugeater 11-17-2013 10:44 PM

Guess the honeymoon is over.

BWillie 11-17-2013 10:45 PM

NFL teams really just need to hire a stat nerd to take control of things like this

RealSNR 11-17-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10200055)
NFL teams really just need to hire a common sense nerd to take control of things like this

FYP

-King- 11-17-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 10199969)
you can't kick FGs from the 2 against manning....which I erroneous assumed was common ****ing knowledge


hey, but it makes sense to count on our inept offense to mount more long td drives....that's playing the odds

This. At the very worst, they get the ball back on the one inch line and you don't get 3 points. But 3 points means nothing when going against Manning.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 11-17-2013 10:49 PM

With this offense, it really doesn't matter much.

RunKC 11-17-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10200055)
NFL teams really just need to hire a stat nerd to take control of things like this

Isn't that what we hired Childress to do?

lewdog 11-17-2013 10:59 PM

Pretty good choice. Do you trust your defense or offense more?

Bugeater 11-17-2013 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10200252)
Isn't that what we hired Childress to do?

LMAO What was that title they said he had during the broadcast...something something special projects something or another?

In58men 11-17-2013 11:00 PM

We play too conservative

007 11-17-2013 11:00 PM

I thought germ was coaching again

Prison Bitch 11-17-2013 11:01 PM

You can play not to lose when you're hosting Cleveland. In the playoffs you can't. Hope Reid understands he behaved like a gutless pussy tonight and won't let it happen again

RealSNR 11-17-2013 11:02 PM

Seriously. Hire me, KC.

You don't even have to pay me the minimum for a coach. Give me a few thousand dollars each game and I'll make the right call each and every time.

If you give me access to your playbook, I'll even throw in my sage advice about running vs passing at the goal line and how best to manage the clock

Mr. Laz 11-17-2013 11:03 PM

Who knew that Reid was such a complete pussy?!?!

cosmo20002 11-17-2013 11:07 PM

Can't blame the loss on that though. If they had gone for it on 4th, what are the chances of making the 7 yards? Not great.
Just saying that going for it probably wouldn't have made a difference in the game.

jspchief 11-17-2013 11:10 PM

Counting on the defense to cover the ass on the inept offense got KC to 9-0. Why would they move away from that?

Stumplifter 11-17-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10200309)
We play too conservative


This

And all night we only rushed 4 guys....

OrtonsPiercedTaint 11-17-2013 11:19 PM

Ah, the players are down
but not crushed to the point of not being able to lift them back up

kevonm 11-17-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10200294)
Pretty good choice. Do you trust your defense or offense more?

Defense which is why you go for it

either you leave them pinned or get a TD. You know the offense isn't getting it back there any time soon

Mama Hip Rockets 11-17-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10200294)
Pretty good choice. Do you trust your defense or offense more?

Obviously the defense, but you've gotta go for it there. Just not enough time left to punt in that situation.

MeatRock 11-17-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stumplifter (Post 10200532)
This

And all night we only rushed 4 guys....

The problem is, is that if you bring additional rushers too much in the game, Manning will chew you up.

KChiefer 11-17-2013 11:27 PM

Yes you can, it's called having faith in who got you there.

Prison Bitch 11-17-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10200403)
Can't blame the loss on that though. If they had gone for it on 4th, what are the chances of making the 7 yards? Not great.
Just saying that going for it probably wouldn't have made a difference in the game.

So what fool? It's a 2 TD game and there's 6 min left, you're at their 40. No math would tell you you can win a road game vs Manning by punting there

Bambi 11-17-2013 11:36 PM

We are all in universal agreement that this was a poor decision.

suzzer99 11-17-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 10200445)
Counting on the defense to cover the ass on the inept offense got KC to 9-0. Why would they move away from that?

Because it's Peyton ****ing Manning?

GOB 11-17-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stumplifter (Post 10200532)
This

And all night we only rushed 4 guys....

Manning is too good at picking up the blitz. It's not going to work.

Elite defenses get pressure with just 4. It's the only way to beat guys like Manning.

Bambi 11-17-2013 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GOB (Post 10200826)
Manning is too good at picking up the blitz. It's not going to work.

Elite defenses get pressure with just 4. It's the only way to beat guys like Manning.

The Chiefs line is good but it's far from elite.

suzzer99 11-17-2013 11:47 PM

Every NFL team should hire an 18-year-old Madden nerd to handle late game situations.

suzzer99 11-17-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10200831)
The Chiefs line is good but it's far from elite.

Yeah it's no Giants 2011 line. But it should be with Houston, Hali and Poe.

Nightfyre 11-17-2013 11:48 PM

Another point worth discussing: Where was the sense of urgency when we were driving with ~6 mins left? I'm like screaming at my TV, "WE'RE DOWN BY THREE SCORES DUMBASSES!" And the players are all walking up to the line watching the time tick away. "We should be in a two minute offense right now dumbasses!" And then the re-kick of the punt? REALLY ANDY? WTF? And then the screen pass at the end of the game... SMH

Bambi 11-17-2013 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10200843)
Another point worth discussing: Where was the sense of urgency when we were driving with ~6 mins left? I'm like screaming at my TV, "WE'RE DOWN BY THREE SCORES DUMBASSES!" And the players are all walking up to the line watching the time tick away. "We should be in a two minute offense right now dumbasses!" And then the re-kick of the punt? REALLY ANDY? WTF? And then the screen pass at the end of the game... SMH

Unfortunately there was a sense that Reid/Smith were playing a bit more "not to be embarrassed" as opposed to win the game.

Not saying this was a bad decision…Maybe you want your team thinking they are in the same league as Denver.

But you're not alone in thinking that in the 4th quarter KC wasn't exactly "trying to win".

Prison Bitch 11-17-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 10200843)
Another point worth discussing: Where was the sense of urgency when we were driving with ~6 mins left? I'm like screaming at my TV, "WE'RE DOWN BY THREE SCORES DUMBASSES!" And the players are all walking up to the line watching the time tick away. "We should be in a two minute offense right now dumbasses!" And then the re-kick of the punt? REALLY ANDY? WTF? And then the screen pass at the end of the game... SMH

Andy was too afraid of the moment and his players fed off it

cosmo20002 11-18-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10200717)
So what fool? It's a 2 TD game and there's 6 min left, you're at their 40. No math would tell you you can win a road game vs Manning by punting there

Well, there were 12 minutes left, not 6.

And all I said was that it didn't decide the game--that assumes they make the 7 yards for the 1st down. And it assumes they continue the drive into the end zone. It's something to complain about, but it didn't decide the game.

dannybcaitlyn 11-18-2013 12:13 AM

[QUOTE=Bambi;10200831]The Chiefs line is good but it's far from elite.[/Q


I would put the Panthers line as Elite.

KC_Connection 11-18-2013 01:20 AM

Turns out Andy Reid is the same guy he was in Philly. Big surprise there.

KC_Connection 11-18-2013 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10200350)
Who knew that Reid was such a complete pussy?!?!

Eagles fans?


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