Famous Jameis...Rapist?
 

Don't know if you're following the Jameis Winston rape coverup - but seems like a pretty dirty deal happening down in Tampa.

New statement from the victim's family...
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2013/PDFs/winston.pdf

Semen owls

In comes SNR in 3...2...1

So close...

Not really. He was off by a whole two minutes.

Inmem could never be Jameis Winston. He's not fast enough.

That statement from the family attorney is intense.

Jism

He should hang out with Mike Dixon in Memphis....

Has he even made a statement about this mess?

The coverup and "threat" sound pretty bad.

Not that anybody ever gives a shit about this, but even if Winston didn't do it or the investigation doesn't proceed, I still imagine this is going to cost him a Heisman Trophy.

It seems like they have some legitimate questions.

DEVELOPING: DNA report connects Florida St. QB Jameis Winston to accuser. This does not prove a crime was committed. (via @Mark_Schlabach)

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...d=sportscenter

So Winston's roommate witnessed the attack and did nothing. The police discouraged the woman to not file a report because it would make her life hell. The woman may not press charges but the state could most definitely do so.

If that happens, Winston can kiss his ass goodbye.

He'll never play a down in the NFL.

He's increasing his stock in Pittsburgh that's for sure.

FSU fans are the worst. I'm sure she asked to be raped assholes.

I know there needs to be definitive proof, but what the hell else would it mean? He stopped by because he needed to borrow a cup of sugar?

He Said/She Said.

The roommate's testimony or statement would be key.

Isn't Winston about 4-6 inches taller than what the description called for? I find that kind of weird. I'm not saying Winston is innocent, but the description isn't even close.

http://tracking.si.com/2013/11/13/fs...investigation/


Edit: Just saw the tweet about the DNA test. Nevermind :D

Who cares about the description when you have the DNA. Of course the tweet is true that even DNA doesn't prove a crime happened, only that he was involved with her some way

If this turns out to be true, I hope they toss that cop mother****er in general population.

The police pressured her and her family to keep this quiet. She is not wanting a book deal or money. This was a year ago.

She was raped. The rapist was a big time FB player, possible Heisman winner and ticket to respectability for FS. They threatned her. The police were a part of the cover up. This is all as slimy as it can get.

Exactly. He admits to having sex with her now but it was consenual. Most people think he is guilty as hell down here. He has sweared for a year he never knew her.

I know. I'm saying that if there isn't enough evidence or whatever else happens so that he's not investigated or found guilty, this is going to cost him a Heisman.

As in, he has no chance at all of winning the trophy RIGHT NOW. The committee won't even want to chance it.

They have his DNA in her. He said he never knew her, never met her for a year. Now they matched DNA. He says its consensual sex.

He said/She said, which one are you going to believe?

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I don't know and don't care. The authorities can handle that.

I'm ONLY talking about the Heisman, and how no matter what the results will turn up, he's not going to win it. That can be determined right now.

I was a bit annoyed how the media kept pointing this out. I thought it was just weird that people were so quick to discredit it when so few details were known at the time. I don't believe it's out of the ordinary for a rape victim to have trouble recalling details of the attack or accurately describing the victim.

These situations are so sad. :( At this point either something awful has happened or something awful is currently happening.


In any case, I guess this doesn't qualify as "Manziel disease" as he referenced before the season. At least he avoided that.

The guy was probably plastered , banged the bitch once at a party now she is screaming rape to get a cash handout from the University.

He had sex with her in his dorm room, in front of his roommate.

She went to the police and they discouraged her from filing charges.

Winston is not the "victim".

This is what is curious about it. Why is it brought up now, if it wasn't consensual ? Does this gal have a history of being luridly promiscuous?

It stinks dude.

I'd advise reading all of the available material before jumping to any conclusion

For me it's a hard sell, but you should have good insight about it since you might've had women pull the same shit with associates of yours. So I'll take that account due to that knowledge of similar issues.

Probably? Why would you buy your own version of the events over those of a victim who has seemingly tried to do everything correctly in this case?

He never had a chance at the heisman with Manziel around.

Usually the person who's story changes isn't the one telling the truth...

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...inston-accuser

A DNA analysis completed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement on Tuesday confirmed that DNA provided by Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston matched the sample taken from the underwear of the woman who has accused him of sexual battery.

According to the DNA analysis report, a copy of which was viewed by ESPN.com on Wednesday, the Florida state crime lab determined the chance of the DNA in the woman's underwear being a match for someone other than Winston was one in 2.2 trillion.

Winston would probably have been able to write this off as he said/she said, but he's been deceptive about this throughout the process. I believe he for a long time denied the encounter ever occurred, but now he said it did and but it was consensual.

There's a lot of talk in the local media that the police did him some tremendous favors, and that a regular Joe would have been charged.

Not surprising and now he will claim it was consensual and she will claim its rape.

The roommate will be the wildcard in all of this.

What is his testimony going to be? Not guaranteed but odds are if he was watching, it was rape, and then he is facing possible charges for not reporting it as well I would think.

So whats he (roommate) going to do now?

Just a little seminole fluid...)

LMAO I know I shouldn't laugh but that's pretty good.

Listening to a pre-game pep talk, Winston seemed like a total prick to me. Having said that, how many roommates would stand back just watch a forcible rape?

HIDE YO KIDS, HIDE YO WIFE

This is a bad deal all the way around. It is so easy to bang some guy and then call rape. So much so that it has led to a boy that cried wolf environment.

Either way, the way the facts are lining up it doesn't look good for Winston.

Is his roommate on the football team?

While there are some women who have done that, less than 3% of the reported rapes are that way.

Rape is also the least reported crime.

I understand, but it is sad that we can't just believe a woman when she says she was raped. Other women have to ruin it by being reeruned.

Where did you read that? I read it was on her clothing. Are you making shit up again?

Okay I don't know much about the case. But why was this girl in a football players room at 1 or 2 in the morning?

Seems like the ramp up to blame a victim is already starting.

I am just wondering because something doesn't make since here. The victim claimed she didn't know her attacker and gave a description. In the families statement they said the toxicology proves the victim wasn't intoxicated. Why was she in an apartment at 2 in the morning where she supposedly didnt know anybody. Not trying to make a statement on what happened just looking for more info.

all great questions. it'll play out. i'm more appalled by the police response, honestly, they could have sorted this all out a long time ago it seems. another great look for fla.

How did his seminole fluid end up in her underwear.... mystery!!!! Sorry the seminole fluid joke from MM before was just too good to pass up a second time.

Why would she have done a rape kit at the time, if it was consensual?

Why would the police/whoever have needed to suppress her accusations if she wasn't saying this had been rape all along?

Why'd he lie about it all the way until the DNA match? Not usually the conduct of an innocent person.

Could you imagine the reaction of Jamis was black? /bsexy

Great questions.

That doesn't answer the question of finding it "in her" as he charged, and where it was actually found. And that does matter since penetration is rape but foreplay would not be.

I guess. They did a rape kit. :shrug: There was probably penetration if they did a rape kit.

Administering a rape kit doesn't necessarily prove a rape occurred.

They're performed if there is an allegation of rape.

Well that settles it. He's obviously guilty.

I am not saying he is or isn't. Simply that they wouldn't be pursuing rape charges if the rape kit did not reveal penetration. It could have been consensual. That said, this all looks REALLY bad for Mr. Winston.

It's tricky with this, if you say she is just looking for attention it makes it seem like you don't take rape seriously. USA Today said the other day that a poll recently showed that 80% of women who are assaulted don't report it. I mean I could understand if a guy threatened your life, but it seems implausible that she got raped, was told that if she told people that her life would become miserable, waits a year, tells anyways while he's the front runner for the Heisman and more popular now than ever before. I personally think it was consensual and she's looking for the attention or some kind of settlement or something but honestly, a guy in college rapes me I'm going to the police with it. To not report it just makes her look more foolish imo.

It's not the other women who ruin it. It's the culture of blaming the victim.

She went to the police with it...

Yeah, because that is what every college girl is looking for.....consensually sleep with a guy with the thought he might be famous someday and she can change her mind and yell rape.

If this is it she is good at this game.

nice...

Women who lie about being raped don't cause the credibility of all rape allegations to come into question?

Um, she did go to the police right away. Did you not read the OP?

It's like the stock market in a way...**** low, claim rape high...

Especially when it comes to star athletes.
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No. Not only no, but hell no. The number of women who lie is so small as to be effectively irrelevant.

So it happened Dec. 2012? He wasn't on anyones radar at that time, he's a RSF, why cover up for a freshman nobody? The "family" attorney is family, it's her aunt and an UF grad go figure.

So you are nearly 100% certain that he raped her. That is what you are saying. The chances of her lying about are so small as to be effectively irrelevant.

Yeah...the number one QB in the country...the guy who picked Florida State over every major program in the country...was a nobody? JFC

Tallahassee PD is not known for a history of suppression, especially for a freshman qb. He had another girlfriend, she found out, made the accusation, started to think better of it until there’s a bcs title bid on the line ( a year later) and her gator aunt has her thinking payday.

Tallahassee PD has one of the worst reputations in the country. Their police chief was recently fired for suppressing the fact that one of their officers beat the ever loving shit out of a woman at a traffic stop.

By the way...she didn't wait a year. She immediately went to the authorities and had a rape kit done. Meanwhile, Winston's story has been that the two have never met. Suddenly, the DNA test came back as a match...now it was consensual sex. Please though...tell me more about her non immediate family member who went to a different college and therefore hates the Seminoles so much that she convinced her niece to make a false rape accusation against the Florida State QB.

Case closed! Ugh.

Yep. Nailed it.

The best way to get a big payday is to press criminal charges against a college kid who isn't allowed to even hold a job paying him more than a couple grand a year. Never mind that, if successful, she prevents him from ever getting an NFL payday.