Jupiter Ascending
 

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Meh...Wachowski Brother and sister still trying to live off their former Matrix glory.

Premise and overall looks good as a sci-fi flick, but Channing Tatum? I dunno, it just makes it scream typical teen movie, + spaceships.

Wait, aliens are elves now?

Looks good. I will see this.

Wonder how early into the movie Sean Bean will die...

Lol, that was my first thought as well.

Visuals are the only thing that's going to be good in it. Just like cloud atlas it will just be some long winded trash.

Channing Tatum has the personality of a ****ing plank. Seriously.

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At he the very beginning of the clip in the OP, the way the guy said the word "perfect" ruined the entire thing for me. Yuw theh puh fect haunt eeng muh sheen. Now I cant watch it. It's like a British Forrest Gump android.

Cloud Atlas was my favorite of all of their movies, including all three of the Matrix ones.

I thought Cloud Atlas was a boring mess of a movie. I'm not expecting much from this one.

He was surprisingly funny in the 21 Jump Street movie.

But otherwise, yeah.

****ing GI Joe. ****ing loves me.

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Still looks kinda meh to me. Just looks like your typical overdone CGI, splosion extravaganza.

This was supposed to open next month. It was announced today that it's been bumped to Feb. 2015. Not a good sign.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-bumped-709184

Wow, that sucks. I'll bet Warner's thinks there's too much competition in summer. Planet of the Apes opens right before it.


Pretty late in the game for a move like that.

The article says it's to complete the special effects work. But moving it to February isn't exactly a vote of confidence either.

I was not impressed by the trailers... but it must have really been a mess to move it to February.

The special effects thing is just PR.

It's probably not tht good or just too weird for summer mainstream audiences.

The Wachowskis jumped the shark long ago.....

Disney should bump up Guardians of the Galaxy a few weeks. There is a big hole now in the middle of July with no big budget event films.

Must really be a stinker of a final cut.

Ya right about the 3rd Matrix- otherwise, Speed Racer should have been more than enough proof.

While they are still interesting visually in their films, it's probably no coincidence that they were accused of plaugerizing the storyline for the 1st 2 parts of The Matrix.

They are still interesting filmmakers. But their movies have become too quirky, heady and downright weird for most mainstream moviegoers.

WB suits probably watched and went......WTF? This has zero chance in mid July.
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What did they expect?...

I just watched 2001 A Space Odyssey last night for about the umpteenth time... and that's pretty much the standard I'm going to judge any and all "serious" sci-fi movies by from here out.

Big shoes to fill, and the last great sci-fi movie was Moon... I hope the Wachowskis brought their A game for this one, the new Nolan film is promising as well, but I'm jaded about sci-fi more than any other genre.

If its not great, its shit... theres no inbetween.

Lol. Exactly. WB keeps giving them millions to make movies.

America, what a country !
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You don't seem to like much do you?

Yep straight to DVD.

Name the last great sci-fi movie since Moon.

But yeah, with that genre I'm very particular and expect very intelligent, thought provoking stories.

I'd have to think about it, to be honest. I love sci-fi though, and not just serious sci-fi. Hell, I loved Ice Pirates! (boy, that didn't age well though) And to be honest, I actually prefer adventure/action scifi.

While I really liked Moon, I wouldn't put it on the same level as 2001: ASO. That was a rare film for any genre (IMO). That movie invoked a sense of wonder that Moon just couldn't touch. Moon was an awesome character study with a fantastic twist, but it didn't have that "awe" factor.

What got me about your comment was..."If its not great, its shit... theres no inbetween." My response fits your comment well. I've enjoyed a ton of sci-fi that's not great, but has still been a lot of fun.

I'm guessing you hated Europa Report, which was a serious/suspense sci-fi flick. I loved it. Really brought the viewer into life on a mulit-month space flight, and then totally changed gear in the last third. It wasn't great, but it was good and fun.

If you're going to judge all movies against 2001: ASO, I think you're going to be sadly disappointed 99% of the time.

Inception.

A ton better than Moon.

You're right, Moon isn't on the same level as 2001... but it wasn't really trying to be, either.

But it definitely was a mature, thought provoking science fiction film... no lasers, no action hero's, no crazy monsters... just a great story well told, and that's what I long for these days, films in that genre that explore deep subjects and aren't aiming for 15 year old boys money or tying their flic in with the new sandwich at Burger King.

Europa Report?... I praised that one somewhere on here a while back after a rental, very high marks for spacecraft interior realism, calm, realisitic, steady astronaut behavior (hello, Prometheus) among other things.

But you gotta admit, the ending kinda sucked... what was the beast? just a bunch of lights under the water? There are a lot of good movies in every genre that fall victim to the "great lead up, disappointing ending" vein, that's what keeps good from great.

Anyway, as a person who feels strongly about space and its possibilities, I want more amazement and depth these days... its either great or it kinda sucks.

I guess I just prefer average-good sci-fi over good-great of most other genres. Not that picky if I can suspend disbelief for an hour or so. I enjoyed Avatar, even if it was a mirror of Dances with Wolves. I've never seen Dances, so why would I care. If I'm too critical about movies in my favorite genre, I'll end up spending more time being disappointed by what I'm supposed to be enjoying. No thanks. Why bother at that point?

I absolutely hate reality TV. Hate is probably too weak a description. So I don't watch it. Ever. That said, I will watch the shit out the Mars One astronaut selection stuff and anything else they do.

Europa Report was a fantastic movie until the shift. It was still good after that, but it was just kinda weird. But the first hour of that movie was still awesome.

I haven't seen Inception yet. It's on the list.

Your thoughts on Gravity? I really liked it, but the story was thin. In terms of trying to actually put the viewer in space though, it's at the very top of the list IMO. Watching IMAX 3D with only a couple of other people in the theater most likely really helped to enhance my experience.

Same here with Inception, I keep hearing the accolades and somehow just don't really care, it just sounds too far fetched even for me, I guess... I'll eventually get around to it one of these days I'm sure.

BCD, you're about 568th guy who's told me how great it is, it just seems too trippy and unreal.

Your first two thoughts sum it up for me pretty well... good but not great IMO, like Prometheus in that it has excellent visuals and a thin story, unlike it in that the acting is very good.

The scene where Clooney "comes back" in her dream was a pretty cool twist, I knew it was a dream to begin with, but it was still pretty trippy and the ISS getting hammered was certainly cool... that movie gets a solid B from me, nothing wrong with that, it just wasn't GREAT.

I think atleast some of the hype was Bullock + Clooney + great visuals + some exotic name like "Cuaron" and it just sucked the old Oscar voter fogies right in like a star powered black hole.

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Two films are slated to open on the same day in IMAX: "Jupiter Ascending" and "Seventh Son". Both are films that were supposed to come out last year but reportedly sucked balls so bad that they were delayed for a year while they were attempting to make them better. I think both are going to suck but JA at least has more hope for it due to the SFX and Mila Kunis.

Crap. Didn't know that. Jupiter Ascending looked promising. But, if that is true, I'm sure it will suck donkey bawls.

Had a 'secret screening' at Sundance last night. I have no idea why??

But it doesn't sound good.


From Variety‘s Ramin Setoodeh: “Despite the hype of a secret Jupiter Ascending screening, clusters of seats inside the 300-person venue remained empty, and a handful of patrons walked out” — bailed! — “of the two-hour-plus space epic starring Mila Kunis as a princess and Channing Tatum as an intergalactic soldier tasked with rescuing her.

“The Wachowskis’ flair was fully on display, with sequences reminiscent of The Matrix or Star Wars. But when the film ended, the usually gracious Sundance audience didn’t clap at the closing credits.

“‘I hated it,’ said one of the festival’s volunteers, who asked not to be identified for fear of irking Sundance. ‘It’s just ridiculous.’


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Hate to say it, but this had all the markings of a 'one bad review' disaster.

I allowed the possibility of it being a wonderful mess, like The Fifth Element, but all it takes for me is a little scuttlebutt like this to dismiss it completely.

Wouldn't be surprised to see it struggle to break $10M, . . . but then with Mila and CGI, wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of teen sheep eat it up.

I think it will flop regardless if it's good or not.

The Wachowskis need to reboot and make some smaller films again.

The Fifth Element is what I kept thinking of while watching this trailer.

Despite bad early reviews, I might still be pretty interested in this if it wasn't for Channing Tatum. That dude couldn't act his way out of an imaginary paper bag.

Watch the Eagle. It's good.

No way it makes that little. It'll make that much on its opening weekend. And I bet it finishes between $65M-75M. Which is still a failure in today's sci-fi blockbuster world.

The Wachowskis are like Lucas: one good idea (the original "Matrix", much like the original "Star Wars") and that's it. Like Lucas, they started believing their own press clippings and not listening to anyone (Neo as Jesus, Jar-Jar Binks). Another guy who's headed in this direction is Kubrick, and I expect this film to be a too-serious laughable "epic" in the same manner that his recent "Exodus" was.

And I feel bad for Magic Mike. He's actually not a bad actor for a guy who is usually cast because "chicks think he's hot". He was overlooked in "Foxcatcher". But in this film I'm sure his character, and the lines he's forced to deliver, go over about as much as a steaming turd in a cardboard box would as a Christmas present. Likewise for Mila, who excels at playing the fun, tomboy-sexy man-buddy, but in this film looks like she has to play it about the same as Kristen Stewart in "Snow White and the Huntsman" (waiflike starry-eyed innocent).

Kubrick is headed where?

LMAO

I think he already got to where he was going.

Channing Tatum wasn't bad in The Vow either.

Kubrick is doing pretty good for a dead guy!

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

American Graffitti, Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Empire Strikes Back and Willow for starters. He "ghost edited" Jurassic Park. He created Industrial Light & Magic and built Skywalker Sound, one of the foremost mixing stages in the world.

He single-handedly changed the industry with "Droid", the first computer editing system that was sold later to a couple of guys that turned it into Avid, which is the world's leading editing platform.

He later created Pixar and sold it to his friend Steve Jobs for a mere $10 million. His advice, guidance and vision has played a huge role for too many filmmakers to count and inspired generations of filmmakers.

The Wachowski's made one film that was awesome but plagiarized and have since followed it up with nonsensical garbage.

I have no idea why WB continues to give them insane amounts of money to make films??

But its not my money......

Well, it's a couple of things, actually.

The Wachowski's are producing their films, which means they're putting up funding. So while Cloud Atlas made $130 million worldwide on a $102 million dollar budget and thus, likely broke even after marketing, there's still DVD sales, rentals and premium channel income. It's not a ton but it's better than not making a film.

Personally, other than the original Matrix, I'm not a fan. But regardless of my opinion, they do make money for Warner Brothers and if a movie like Jupiter Ascending ends up being a box office smash, Warner's has that in their hip pocket.

Even if it just breaks even, they can claim to have one of the biggest movies of the year, just based on budget alone.

Pretty much how I feel about them. Loved the original Matrix. It was fresh at the time and had a great story and action.

Everything else I'm pretty 'meh' about. I think they have become too weird and quirky for mainstream audiences. Which normally is fine, but I find their films besides the original Matrix boring and dry.

The idea looks great, like something I'd love, but good movies don't get released on February 6th.

You forgot Howard the Duck.

May as well see the extended trailer

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That's the same one I posted when I dug the thread back up yesterday isn't it?

Heh, I guess. Didn't scroll up far enough.

Wow, this looks really...mediocre

I enjoyed the original Matrix and Cloud Atlas. I can't think of any other one of their movies that I enjoyed. There is nothing at all in this trailer that interests me.

Bound was great. Speed Racer wasn't for everybody but the technical aspect of that movie was spectacular. V for Vendetta? They're not just matrix

I haven't seen Bound but I did actually enjoy Speed Racer. Really liked V for Vendetta. But agree that nothing has lived up to Matrix.

I did like Matrix Reloaded but despised Revolutions.

Bound is an OK smallish movie, with the toe clenching-ist, ball-emptying-ist, lesbian scenes in mainstream film history.

Come on, Bound was great for one reason (well, two) only: Gina Gershon and Jennifer Tilly.

:evil:

If they had cast Melissa McCarthy and Edie McClurg, no one would even know of that film.

I know I loved Blue is the Warmest Color because of Abdellatif Kechiche's direction.








Oh damn, I'm out of Kleenex.

LMAO

Ok, I did enjoy V for Vendetta. But did they direct that? They probably did, but who knows?

Speed Racer is nice from a technical aspect, but it's incredidbly boring IMO.

This looks like eye porn and not much else. And I'm with keg - this is a story I would usually eat up, but it's just not resounding with me.

I guess I can look forward to seeing how Sean Bean dies THIS time. :D

Despite their looks, Tatum and Kunis aren't great actors. I liked Tatum in White House Down and a few others, but he's too wooden to carry a film of this nature.

Kunis, to me, is a sitcom actress without any weight or acting chops.

The visuals may be awesome but I doubt this film will resonate.

Reviews are out. Sounds like a dud. Too bad

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/mobile...scending_2014/

How do you spend a gazillion dollars and delay after delay, and still lay a turd?

Change your last name to Wachowski and get a sex change.

I thought (both the film and the brothers) came out like a year ago?

Isn't this just a re-release to try and gain $$$ back by using 3D?....

Film was originally supposed to come out Mid July of 2014. They started advertising for it in 2013.

It got bumped to Feb 2015 about a month before release. That was obviously not a good sign.

I really liked V for Vendetta. They wrote the screen play and produced it, but didn't direct it.

As far as recent Sci-Fi movies go, I really liked the first new Star Trek movie, even as a guy who doesn't watch the show. Also enjoyed Gravity in 3D, even as a guy who doesn't care for 3D. Thought the scene with the explosion and no noise was pretty cool.

I'm probably seeing it in the next day or two despite the reviews and my own already low expectations. Have an amc stubs reward that expires in a few days (but before next Friday so can't wait for kingsmen), want to use it on something.