The Evolution of the Planet
 

I think to understand the nature of the problem that exists here today it is important to reflect on how we arrived here. For those that don’t know, ChiefsPlanet was created to get around the vast restrictions placed on posters in KC Star. It was a huge success right off the bat and we were rolling. IMO those first months we ended up with a lot of really great posters and only a couple bad ones. As time went on CP has attracted more and more people who love not having restrictions and unlimited subjects to discuss which was great other than the fact that that many thought those threads were polluting the forum with people arguing all the time over subjects that didn’t even involve football. I posted a poll asking the membership if they wanted another forum for off topics and it passed by a landslide and the people who run this BB were gracious enough to create it and DC was born.

That has worked for a long time now with this almost no holds barred format. Once again this type of forum has been attractive to people who love the open debate that can take place here but unfortunately over many years it has attracted more and more trolls who like using the structure here to do nothing more than try to get under posters skin and will do anything in order to do that. It’s also allowed posters like frazod to thrive here being the poster child of bad psychology. Talk about no boundaries with a strong desire to bust in others and dump. This has attracted more in the like, can anyone say KCN? The trolls have grown as well in this forum in a kind of perfect storm way. What we have today is a forum saturated with trolls and posters with the psychology of a 13 year old psychopathic girl on her first period. IMO this is costing us many potential good posters who would make this a better place to come to and has also seen us lose many quality long term posters. To complicate matters the moderators that reside here are fine with posters posting anything they want about you and your family members short of a racist remark heaven forbid just as long as you don’t do it to them which is now creating two different cultures that exist within the planet. If they think that it is hostile now they haven’t seen anything yet should this persist.

IMO at this point nothing short of a cleansing designed to rid the planet of trolls and bloody vaginas that have no control is exactly what this place needs to regain its former greatness. There was a time when I posted a thread about a family member and their battle with cancer and asked for prayers and support. Today there is no chance of me doing something like that here as I have no desire to see somebody post the nastiest thing they can think of at that point. For the old timers it should be easy to see the huge difference in where we were and where we are now. My 2 cents.

When I started lurking here (in 2008 or so), this place was much, much different. I agree wholeheartedly with the notion that this place is infested with people being here for no apparent reason, other than wasting bandwidth.

People will defend this with the "just use the ignore button, jerkoff" method. Should we really have to use the ignore feature on some of the shit that filters through this place these days?

I'm not sure if there is a solution to this while still trying to walk the line of limitless expression and lenient moderation policies. A clean purge would have varying consequences.

I've only been here since 2005, but you're right. Things have changed for the worse.

We left the barn door wide open, but there's no going back now. This place used to be like a fraternity - you had to go through a little hazing and EARN respect as a poster. Somewhere along the way, we lost that - and we have these entitled shits who act like some cousin you never knew you had. They show up at your door looking for a place to crash for the night and next thing you know, they've ate all your food, drank all your booze, made a ****ing mess and have basically moved themselves in.

Sadly, all you can do now is either live with it, decrease your time spent here, or leave altogether. None of which are good options to those of us that believe in the community aspect of this place.

As I said in another thread - we're creeping up on the point where the old regime starts to get sick of this shit and leaves, and Kyle's going to be left with a board filled with trolls and kids that are more about "the lulz" than football talk and community.

I concur on much that has been stated.

I find that I frequent the site much less than I used to do and that is a direct reflection on the content.

I've not contributed postings worthy of publication but neither do I embrace the childish and post useless negatives. While I don't take advantage of "ignore" I do scroll past many posters without a glance or cursory read.

LMAO

I love this guy. Really. Once again, one of the nastiest pricks in the board's history puts on his victim hat and cries about how mean everybody is. Of course, when he gleefully jumps into any no-holds-barred fray, that doesn't count.

You are wonderfully toxic combination of raging ego, the eternal steel trap vindictiveness of a jilted woman, a gushing vagina of raw emotion, and complete dumbassery. It's like Phobia and Flopnuts had a baby and dropped it on its head repeatedly.

Wasted bandwidth indeed.

I understand where you're coming from, and agree with much of what you're saying. But stop a second and consider what you're requesting...

You're proposing that Chiefsplanet should employ the very behavior that was the reason for its creation in the first place. Increasing moderation could turn this place back into what the Star board was. And do you really want that?

yeah, chiefsplanet is almost like 4 chan by now

No offense Big Daddy, but building the DC ghetto was a bad idea and so is this purge you're contemplating.

I was with you until you started picking out certain posters by name to take shots at them. **** your agenda.

this is what happens when there isn't a dad in the house

Yeah, I wasn't a fan of that tactic either, but his point stands.

10 posts in and still no "bring back Skip" comment yet.

Unsure if I should be disappointed or not.

You should start novaccinationsplanet.com

I like this place. :shrug:

cool story bro

Personally, the dipshittery by some just doesn't faze me, i usually skim right past it to the posters i want to read, by the same token though, its nice to have people to laugh at once in a while.

The trolls and lulz guys are the price paid for light moderation, i'd rather deal with that than have some kind of orangemane dictatorship.

The Cassel trade changed this board forever. It really did make a civil war on this board.

Yeah, because there can't POSSIBLY be some middle ground. It's not a black or white issue.

Oh, wait. We did experience that middle ground for a bit.

From 2000-2009. Damn near a decade.

That would result in a purge of like 70% of the members here, though.

It's odd that the OP suggests that we need to fix a relatively NEW phenomenon and simultaneously lays the blame on someone who joined the SAME TIME he did - the day the board was born.

If this truly is the case, Chiefsplanet was doomed from the day it started.

I've been here since '05 and imo it's the same as it's ever been.

I look around the Lounge and i don't see anything different aside from a lack of KCstar articles and Bob Gretz camp updates.

If you spend a lot of time in DC, then you're likely to have a jaded view of CP. Judging by the names you rattled off, it sounds like that's exactly what's happening.

The lounge, media center etc are the same as it ever was.

Stay out of DC and your opinion might sway a little.

So the way to make this a better free and open forum is to stop letting it be a free and open forum?



The terrorists win again.

It was a pretty decent shock how much this place changed in the 3 years I took off. But we collectively have been pretty cruel to people. An argument can be made for live by the troll die by the troll.

Old timer takes a shot at old timer in the op, 5 posts later old timer fires back, but its the n00bs.

Is that your final solution?...

there's always been good people here, and there's always been jerkoffs. after all these years of (imo) success, there's a lot more good people and a lot more jerkoffs.

I feel that in this type of "open" atmosphere people will try to take it to the limit of what's allowed. if they get away w/it, there's going to be someone else who takes it a little further. after awhile, someone gets offended who at times has tried to push it to the limit themselves.

I just don't think this place is really any different than it ever was. someone's bitching today, and someone else will be bitching tomorrow.

don't change this place. change yourself.
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Let's blown up the abomination known as the DC forum and nuke the posters that post 99.99% of the time there with it!

Big Daddy brings up many good points, but I'm not sure a "cleansing" is an option.

I do think there should be some new rules in place that can help rid us of "undesirables" in the future. Not that there should be additional restrictions on what can and cannot be posted, but what I'd like to see is some restrictions on the back and forth sniping between certain members. Isolated cases are fine, but when it continues and both parties are more interested in following each other around and infecting any thread that suits them, then warnings should be issued. If it continues, then the mod team can force the offenders to ignore each other (is this possible?), disable rep, or in extreme cases institute bannings.

I don't want to take away from the open nature of this forum, but some of the ongoing battles between members have gotten ridiculous.

Yup.

There was once a time that CP itself had the balls to rid our board of trolls.

No mods required.

When we started treating n00bs with kid gloves we damaged CP's immune system...

What do you know about what we experienced prior to 2005?

LMAO

This.

Everyone on this board plays a hand in it's so called deterioration. Outside of a select few posters like Rainman, and well...maybe he's the only blameless one here.

We could all stop calling each other one who sucks the peniss and morons and post in a civilized manner, but what's the fun in that.

:shrug:Can't we just all get along???

Pretty much this.

The posters who call this place a shithole are basically posters who made enemies in DC.

Stay out of DC and your perspective will likely change.

Point duly noted. The recent turn of events revolving around said poster has finally started bringing this to a head however.

I like some of the ideas being thrown around. But do the mods want to make any changes? I think that's the first question that needs to be answered.

There's as much BS, trolling, and sniping in the main forum as there is in DC. Go back and read some of the Casselwars threads, the AlexSmith conflagrations or the drafturbator rampages.

But I agree with your general point. This place hasn't really changed much since you joined. And I give you extra credit for your point about KCStar articles not being as prominently posted these days.

Straddle that fence any harder and your prostate will have splinters.

I haven't been around all that long, but I wouldn't say the influx of 49ers fans were treated with kid gloves. Problem is, most of them stuck around anyway.

Yeah, I'm going to disagree here.

I stay the **** out of DC, but there's been a gradual change in this place in the last 4-5 years.

When I started here, it was pretty evenly split between solid football discussion and pop culture/bullshit. A discussion could get heated, you'd call each other some names, and then laugh about it over a beer at the next CP function.

There's a small group of old-timers that still do it, but we're a dying breed.

It's ironic that some of the biggest assholes on the board are some of the longest tenured members.

Also, there is something to be said about this whole nostolgia phenomenon. Every where i look regarding nearly every topic that comes up in life....It was always better "back in the day". It never fails.

People always loved giving new posters shit instead of welcoming them to the board.

Welp. Enjoy your board now.

yeah, seriously.

macericks ace got freaking ROASTED about the porno and deadbeat dad thing and he still stuck around

Do you want more football discussion? Start some football threads.

HEY! :cuss:

2009, I hate to be a broken record but that was the year. Judging by the neg rep and other factors that was when it started to get real nasty around here.

the problem is there is no solution

who decides those to purge and those to remain? what criteria? why bother when it'll be right back to mayhem in a matter of months, if not weeks?

I've also been around since the dawn of time, i'm just not near the activity level of most others

I long since accepted filtering thru the muck to get anything of value here. I've also quietly abandoned this place many times, only to return come training camp or draft season, cause this still remains the #1 site for collective information, even if 50% of it (being quite generous) is complete trollish crap.

anyway, i'm w/ ya BD, but agree the named callout was not a point in your favor for the cause

Black Bob is another prime example.

You're right.

Those that were here between 2000-2005 NEVER talk about those years, and there certainly isn't an archive you can go back and read.

This is true.

That happens when half your board is 35+...

BINGO.

Okay I'll start.

You are not one who sucks the penis.

It absolutely was. The football threads were as bad as the bullshit you'd read in DC. And some of them still are.

One thing that hasn't changed since I've been here is the constant call for more moderation (but usually only on the other guys). There are plenty of places you can get that, so if that's what you really want, why not find a new place?

I really don't understand what they get out of this relationship...

And you are not teh m0r0n.

Wow, this feels good guys.

Once again, Zach is full of shit. The only person who ever gave n00bs shit just because they were n00bs was Skip, and he's been gone for 4 ****ing years now.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. We're getting old and grouchy?

If you didn't have your metamucil you'd be grouchy too!

Since you mischaracterized it, I assume you haven't bothered to read them.

It's like a hug on teh internet.

No homo hug of course.

Nostalgia is a fundamental part of human nature. You won't ever get rid of it.

I'm gonna start being a bigger asshole, starting today! This is inspiring stuff! I feel so alive!

**** you one who sucks the peniss!!

:facepalm:

What have I done!!??

Times change, situations change. When looking at the BB I think all of us only see our own perspective on how we would like it to be and how it would thrive or we wouldn't have posted here that long. I see this place thriving as a football centric sight with open communication in different areas and freedom of expression but only to a point. What it's turned into is a cesspool of trolls and adult males with the psychology of a 13 year old girl on her period. If that is to be the future of CP then so be it but to me it but to me that would be a shame.

Pioli and Cassel.

As I mentioned in another thread, it's a big reason why the 49er guys get treated the way they do.

I disagree. God gave us booze to get rid of old memories.

Works pretty well.

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2 capsules of psyllium fiber with every meal...:D

Uh....nah man.

This place use to ALWAYS give noobs shit. It was tradition. I remember that pretty damn well. Only recently has that died down.

Hell, the first 4-5 reps i ever received on this board were neg reps.

You don't get an opinion on this. You don't care about this place or anyone here.

I completely disagree. Post a poll on how many people would want to merge the forums. Epic fail.

Yep. It's probably pretty fun being part of a mob, but it's often not fun taking your own medicine.

Ridiculous.

Oh well. I think it is funny how horrible this place is. So I think we should just keep on keeping on!

Positive reinforcement.

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I don't think anybody reads your posts anyway. It's hard to with up close tittahs every 5 seconds.

It tis the best kind of distraction.

KCN comes to mind BD, its sad.

This is so true. If there is one huge difference it's the number of people constantly calling for bannings. It's like phognet.

This place ALWAYS treated good football takes with respect, regardless of who they came from.

There was a time when nobody even realized who was a n00b and who wasn't...

LMAO

I'm on a strict shredded wheat diet myself.