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Direckshun 01-10-2014 11:48 PM

WalterFootball: Free agent safeties this offseason.
 
In order of the author's ranking of talent.

1. Jairus Byrd, S, Bills. Age: 27.
Jairus Byrd is arguably the top safety in the NFL. He's awesome in coverage and is good for collecting a handful of turnovers each season. He won't be 28 until October.

2. T.J. Ward, S, Browns. Age: 27.
Known for knocking out Rob Gronkowski for the year with a torn ACL and MCL, T.J. Ward is a top safety. He thrives in run support and doesn't have any weaknesses. He won't be 28 until December.

3. Donte Whitner, S, 49ers. Age: 29.
Donte Whitner gets into trouble for the occasional illegal hit, but he's still an excellent strong safety. He has missed only one game in the past four seasons.

4. Chris Clemons, S, Dolphins. Age: 28.
Chris Clemons is a very good coverage safety who has missed only three games in the past four seasons. He'll be missed if the Dolphins can't re-sign him.

5. Major Wright, S, Bears. Age: 26.
Major Wright played very well in 2012, but had an awful 2013 campaign. Perhaps he deserves a mulligan, as he battled neck and hamstring injuries all season. He's only 26, so he should be able to rebound.

6. Stevie Brown, S, Giants. Age: 27.
Stevie Brown had an excellent 2012 campaign, but missed all of 2013 with a torn ACL. He'd have a higher ranking if he weren't coming off that knee injury.

7. Antoine Bethea, S, Colts. Age: 30.
Antoine Bethea has been a pretty average starting safety over the past few seasons, but he'll be hitting 30 in July.

8. Husain Abdullah, S, Chiefs. Age: 29.
Husain Abdullah started the final two games of the season, and by watching him, it makes you wonder why Andy Reid didn't play him more earlier. Abdullah picked off Andrew Luck twice in a playoff loss.

9. Michael Mitchell, S, Panthers. Age: 27.
Everyone laughed at Al Davis when he selected Michael Mitchell in the second round, but Mitchell was pretty decent in coverage this past year.

10. Bernard Pollard, S, Titans. Age: 29.
The Patriots' worst nightmare, Bernard Pollard continues to be strong in run support, but somewhat of a liability in coverage.

11. Ryan Mundy, S, Giants. Age: 29.
Ryan Mundy has done well filling in for injured players at the safety position. He's strong against the run, but is somewhat weak in coverage.

12. James Ihedigbo, S, Ravens. Age: 30.
James Ihedigbo, beat out rookie Matt Elam for one of the safety spots to open the 2013 season, but struggled in coverage to close out the year. He's great in run support.

13. Mike Adams, S, Broncos. Age: 33.
Mike Adams has been an average starting safety over the years, but his play could decline soon, given that he'll be 33 in March.

14. Quintin Mikell, S, Panthers. Age: 34.
Quintin Mikell has been solid at strong safety for Carolina this season, but given that he'll be 34 in mid-September, the Panthers will have to find a new player at that position sometime soon.

15. Kendrick Lewis, S, Chiefs. Age: 26.
Kendrick Lewis got off to a strong start in his career with two solid seasons, but has regressed since. Perhaps he'll be able to recapture what he had in 2010 and 2011.

16. Malcolm Jenkins, S, Saints. Age: 26.
Malcolm Jenkins has never lived up to expectations as a former first-round pick, but he has shown flashes at times. He just turned 26, so there's still plenty of time.

17. Nate Allen, S, Eagles. Age: 26.
Nate Allen has gotten a ton of flak from Philadelphia fans for underachieving as a former second-round pick, but he hasn't been that terrible. He improved a bit in 2013.

18. Ryan Clark, S, Steelers. Age: 35.
Ryan Clark, 35 in October, is no longer the quality safety he used to be. He has struggled at times this season and has hinted at retirement.

19. Yeremiah Bell, S, Cardinals. Age: 36.
Yeremiah Bell played surprisingly well this past season considering his age (36 in March), but he can't be counted on as a starter anymore going forward.

20. Charles Woodson, S, Raiders. Age: 37.
Charles Woodson is playing on his last legs. He'll be 38 in October.

21. Ed Reed, S, Jets. Age: 35.
Ed Reed should be a 1.5-star player, but I'm giving him two starts so I can post a write-up for him. Reed is done. He can't cover anymore. He should retire.

22. M.D. Jennings (RFA), S, Packers. Age: 26.

23. Taylor Mays, S, Bengals. Age: 26.

24. Will Allen, S, Steelers. Age: 32.

25. Jim Leonhard, S, Bills. Age: 31.

26. Quintin Demps, S, Chiefs. Age: 29.

27. Reed Doughty, S, Redskins. Age: 31.

28. Darian Stewart, S, Rams. Age: 26.

29. Darrell Stuckey, S, Chargers. Age: 27.

30. Rafael Bush (RFA), S, Saints. Age: 27.

31. Chris Maragos, S, Seahawks. Age: 27.

32. Kurt Coleman, S, Eagles. Age: 26.

33. Sergio Brown, S, Colts. Age: 26.

34. Usama Young, S, Raiders. Age: 29.

35. Craig Steltz, S, Bears. Age: 28.

36. Danny McCray, S, Cowboys. Age: 26.

37. Colt Anderson, S, Eagles. Age: 28.

38. Matt Giordano, S, Rams. Age: 31.

39. Tanard Jackson, S, Redskins. Age: 29.

40. Anthony Walters (RFA), S, Bears. Age: 25.

41. Jeromy Miles, S, Ravens. Age: 27.

42. John Wendling, S, Lions. Age: 31.

Titty Meat 01-10-2014 11:50 PM

Spending a lot of money on a free safety would be stupid.

The focus should be signing our own guys and building through the draft. This team is more than 1 player away from contending for a superbowl.

Direckshun 01-10-2014 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10360737)
Spending a lot of money on a free safety would be stupid.

So, get value, then.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-10-2014 11:51 PM

Pollard seems much older

Titty Meat 01-10-2014 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10360738)
So, get value, then.

The only value I see here would be 1 of the aging guys signing a 1 year deal but there's a thin line between good and washed up at that age. My guess is someone will overpay for Mike Mitchell.

mcaj22 01-10-2014 11:59 PM

they should buy low on some these guys that had down years and hope they can bounce back (Jenkins, Wright, Allen, etc). Chris Clemons would be a good get too.

TimBone 01-11-2014 12:02 AM

I'm wondering what someone like Clemons would cost. Will he even get out of Miami?

Direckshun 01-11-2014 12:02 AM

Clemons would be my crown jewel. Byrd is a pipe dream.

Clemons, though... would be verrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting to get in on that action.

Dorsey's proven he likes to shop for defensive backs from Miami.

mcaj22 01-11-2014 12:03 AM

yea Clemons is a good coverage guy, nice range/speed

cdcox 01-11-2014 12:12 AM

The thing is, for Sutton's scheme to work, the FS has to be a smart, rangy guy. Those aren't cheap. I'd prefer to pull the trigger on Clemons and call that position solved than screw around while Charles, Hali, DJ, and Flowers all get older. Many of our best players are in their prime now and will be on the downside of their careers 2 years from now.

Deberg_1990 01-11-2014 12:22 AM

Kendrick Lewis!

The Franchise 01-11-2014 12:26 AM

I'd be happy with pretty much anyone from 4-6 and 8 or 9.

BossChief 01-11-2014 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10360785)
I'd be happy with pretty much anyone from 4-6 and 8 or 9.

Shit, If we could come away with Bethea and Abdullah on 2 year deals, I'd be content.

I don't think either guy would break the bank...we could probably get both for 4 million per year combined.

bowener 01-11-2014 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10360762)
Clemons would be my crown jewel. Byrd is a pipe dream.

Clemons, though... would be verrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting to get in on that action.

Dorsey's proven he likes to shop for defensive backs from Miami.

I want the Chiefs to come away with Clemons, Arthur Jones, and (somehow) Golden Tate. The rest they can fill via draft. Just give me those 3 and I will fap all damn day. I really don't know why I like Jones so much. Pedigree maybe.

The Franchise 01-11-2014 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 10360812)
I want the Chiefs to come away with Clemons, Arthur Jones, and (somehow) Golden Tate. The rest they can fill via draft. Just give me those 3 and I will fap all damn day. I really don't know why I like Jones so much. Pedigree maybe.

That's going to be a lot of coin. I'd love it but I don't see it happening.

Why Not? 01-11-2014 01:03 AM

The surprise here is how high he ranks Lewis. I've never heard of Colt Anderson but even he would seem like an uograde

rajroy009 01-11-2014 01:07 AM

I want this type topic..

TimBone 01-11-2014 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10360800)
Shit, If we could come away with Bethea and Abdullah on 2 year deals, I'd be content.

I don't think either guy would break the bank...we could probably get both for 4 million per year combined.

wouldn't you rather have one of the younger guys at the same price rather than Bethea?

mcaj22 01-11-2014 01:14 AM

man tanard jackson really fell off he was pretty good on the bucs

007 01-11-2014 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10360737)
Spending a lot of money on a free safety would be stupid.

The focus should be signing our own guys and building through the draft. This team is more than 1 player away from contending for a superbowl.

But we also can't keep trotting worthless Lewis out there. Have to get his replacement somewhere.

T-post Tom 01-11-2014 01:25 AM

Clemons please. Byrd wants mega millions and has had an ongoing foot issue.

RippedmyFlesh 01-11-2014 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10360838)
But we also can't keep trotting worthless Lewis out there. Have to get his replacement somewhere.

Agree but to notice improvement it won't take that much. Improving from one of the worst starting safeties in the league to an average guy would have a huge affect. Sign an average guy and draft a FS with speed to burn but needs to develop for a year while average guy fills spot.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-11-2014 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 10360737)
Spending a lot of money on a free safety would be stupid.

The focus should be signing our own guys and building through the draft. This team is 1 Johnny Football away from contending for a superbowl.

Fixed

OrtonsPiercedTaint 01-11-2014 06:45 AM

Manziel must be latin for, "swine that jacks it's self off."

ping2000 01-11-2014 06:49 AM

Only thing we have learned is that the author loves the blowjob he got from Lewis. How in the hell is he ranked that high?

BlackHelicopters 01-11-2014 07:49 AM

Already fapping just reading the list.

ChiefRocka 01-11-2014 07:49 AM

I've been calling for Abdullah all season long. It doesn't make any damn sense. He was clearly better. Maybe the Chiefs brass curbed his playing time knowing he's a talent in a contract year?!? Can't think of any other reason they sat this guy as long as they did.

Chief Roundup 01-11-2014 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10360880)
Fixed

:rolleyes:

BlackHelicopters 01-11-2014 09:40 AM

Any list that includes Demps, Lewis, and Abdullah is a great list.

whoman69 01-11-2014 01:09 PM

Nobody over 27 and we should also be drafting the position to have depth. Spending big on a safety makes no sense.

mcaj22 01-11-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 10361291)
Nobody over 27 and we should also be drafting the position to have depth. Spending big on a safety makes no sense.

it does when you play have a DC that plays a cover 1 and refuses to make any adjustments. so having a good coverage safety as the last line of defense could be the difference in giving up a big play.

apparently you didn't watch the last half of the season.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 10360914)
I've been calling for Abdullah all season long. It doesn't make any damn sense. He was clearly better. Maybe the Chiefs brass curbed his playing time knowing he's a talent in a contract year?!? Can't think of any other reason they sat this guy as long as they did.

While I agree, that's like complaining you don't have a Dodge Neon and being mad that you're stuck with a Yugo.


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